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General Dunsparce
07-26-2010, 03:15 PM
Again, I know that there are like 2-5 brawl players on this site, but I thought it'd be nice to show off how every character does competitively.

Top
S:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/metaknight.png

High
A:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/snake.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/diddykong.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/falco.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/iceclimbers.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/marth.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/wario.png
B:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/dedede.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/pikachu.pnghttp://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/olimar.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/lucario.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/gameandwatch.png

Middle
C:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/pit.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/toonlink.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/zerosuit.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/kirby.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/rob.png
D:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/donkeykong.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/peach.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/fox.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/luigi.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/wolf.png
E:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/sheik.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/pokemontrainer.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/sonic.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/ness.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/bowser.png

Low
F:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/lucas.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/ike.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/yoshi.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/mario.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/captainfalcon.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/samus.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/jigglypuff.png

G:
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/zelda.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/link.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/ganondorf.png

Condensed Version
S: Meta Knight
A: Snake, Diddy Kong, Falco, Ice Climbers, Marth, Wario
B: King Dedede, Pikachu, Olimar, Lucario, Mr. Game & Watch
C: Pit, Toon Link, Zero Suit Samus, Kirby, R.O.B.
D: Donkey Kong, Peach, Fox, Luigi, Wolf
E: Sheik, Pokémon Trainer, Sonic, Ness, Bowser
F: Lucas, Ike, Yoshi, Mario, Falcon, Samus, Jigglypuff
G: Zelda, Link, Ganondorf

Past Revisions
v1 (September 1, 2008) (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=192028)
v2 (January 1, 2009) (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214428)
v3 (June 5, 2009) (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=236407)

Changes From v3

1. Meta Knight =
2. Snake =
3. Diddy Kong +2
4. Falco =
5. Ice Climbers +6
6. Marth +1
7. Wario -4
8. King Dedede -2
9. Pikachu =
10. Olimar =
11. Lucario +3
12. Mr. Game & Watch -4
13. Pit +4
14. Toon Link +2
15. Zero Suit Samus =
16. Kirby -3
17. R.O.B. -5
18. Donkey Kong =
19. Peach =
20. Fox +1
21. Luigi -1
22. Wolf =
23. Sheik +1
24. Pokémon Trainer +3
25. Sonic -2
26. Ness +5 (tied with Bowser)
26. Bowser -1 (tied with Ness)
28. Lucas +1
29. Ike -1
30. Yoshi +2
31. Mario -1
32. Captain Falcon +3
33. Samus =
34. Jigglypuff =
35. Zelda -9
36. Link =
37. Ganondorf =

Thanks to SWF for the list and DDM for the format

Operative
07-26-2010, 03:40 PM
http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/iceclimbers.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/kirby.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/sonic.png http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/ness.png

My mains. ^

I never knew Sonic was so low in the tiers. O:

I always thought of him as at least a B. Didn't they set some sort of regulation/rule up just because of Sonic?

General Dunsparce
07-26-2010, 03:44 PM
Lol, not really, that was just when it came out, they took off smashballs iirc. But, Sonic is so low mainly because of him only being able to time people out. The rules are 3 stock 8 Minutes no items rofl. And Sonic has Fsmash as his KOing move and maybe uair and bair. But he's gimpable by getting grabbed while recovering with up B leading to a death or just being light and predictable. I main Sonic, I should know lol

Cherries
07-26-2010, 03:54 PM
My mains. ^

I never knew Sonic was so low in the tiers. O:

I always thought of him as at least a B. Didn't they set some sort of regulation/rule up just because of Sonic?
I always thought sonic was kind of good actualy ;o

I never knew Pit was in the mid.

SLC
07-26-2010, 04:08 PM
Okay, I'm not so good on the tiers side of things, but why is Falco so higher up than Fox and Wolf?

btw I main Marth, and sometimes use Ike, Pit and Link.

Operative
07-26-2010, 04:09 PM
Okay, I'm not so good on the tiers side of things, but why is Falco so higher up than Fox and Wolf?

btw I main Marth, and sometimes use Ike, Pit and Link.

Because of his fling shield, I'm guessing. :P

Fox is too light, Wolf is slow. :/

TheEvilDookie
07-26-2010, 04:10 PM
Haha I think it's pretty awesome that I kick ass with Link and he's all the way at the bottom. What others don't know WILL hurt them ;)

General Dunsparce
07-26-2010, 04:12 PM
Pit really did drop a bit since last time.

Falco... Well let's see, you have chain grabs that can get you up to like 50+ at the start of a match lol. He's got a laser lock which you cant escape teehee. Then he also has a lot better MUs against other top tiers such as MK and Snake etc. See what I mean?

LOL TED, I do want Link dittos with you :0

JokesterJesse
07-26-2010, 04:32 PM
I have never actually liked to play ass meta knight. Or everyone in the high category, except ice climbers.




My Favorite people to play as are.

http://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/jigglypuff.pnghttp://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/peach.pnghttp://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/lucas.pnghttp://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/iceclimbers.pnghttp://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/kirby.pnghttp://brawlfriendcodes.com/images/myplaza/yoshi.png



But when i play online I dont care who i am so i always choose RANDOM :3 because thats the way to go.

~JKJesse~

General Dunsparce
07-26-2010, 04:55 PM
That's cause MK is strong and Fast and has like 34563635 ways to recover. And thats right you use Lucas D:<

Moe2
07-26-2010, 04:59 PM
Haha I think it's pretty awesome that I kick ass with Link and he's all the way at the bottom. What others don't know WILL hurt them ;)
If you're kicking @ss with Link its simply because the people you play are garbage. Then agian this game overall is garbage, Melee4Life

General Dunsparce
07-26-2010, 05:01 PM
Ol uMad, Moe? Well, it's all about opinions. Personally I like them both lol

Moe2
07-26-2010, 07:57 PM
Ol uMad, Moe? Well, it's all about opinions. Personally I like them both lol
Yes I am mad, I waited so long for Brawl to come out. And when I finally got it, I hated everything about it. From the wifi lagging horribly to the controls being delayed and slow. I have met the #1 ranked SSBB player in the world and I wasn't very impressed. Couple Motar Slides, used his grenade to get and extra 3rd jump, meh.

I'm not the only person who thinks this though, I met this guy on youtube.

"Melee takes a lot more precision and perfection, mastering it is a lot harder, also involves a much higher level of play when it comes to mindgames or playing smart in general. Brawl is more mindgame dependant than tech skill dependant, but that doesnt mean it has more "mindgames" than melee, because its not even close lol. Brawl is bad, and worth the $15 or however much i sold it back for. Anyone true to melee still looks at it the same."
~SilentW0lf~

Dylan
07-26-2010, 09:12 PM
I seriously see no difference. I don't get you guys. But just so you know, this tier list seems...inacurate. I dunno. Like for example, isn't Toon Link just a clone of Link? How is Toon Link so much higher up on the list? And honestly Meta-Knight doesn't deserve to be the top, I'm sure like, everybody would argue with me. You see, the middle seems pretty accurate but then the bottom and the top seem less acurate. I don't get how Link is at the way bottom, same with Zelda. I can do great with Zelda even though she's slow. Jeez, I'm about to play Brawl right now just because I don't understand how Meta Knight is so good and Link is so bad. Brb.

SLC
07-26-2010, 09:24 PM
As stated above, Meta-Knight is quite hard to kill. Clones have their advantages. Toon Link is more nimble and can utilize his attacks quicker.

General Dunsparce
07-26-2010, 11:51 PM
Mmm, well, you do know that haters are gonna hate lol. Not to say brawl or melee is better though. They both have things that make them fun. But then again, all of you hardcore melee fans take it too far with your constant whinning about brawl sucks cause yadda yadda yadda. So what? Just keep to yourself. Some people like brawl, some people like melee some like both lol. It's like, no one wants hear about why brawl sucks and melee is superior. Just go back to your wavedashing and stuff and like not whine about it :/

As for Dylan. Yeah, even though toon link is a clone, it doesn't mean he has to suck. They gave link a terrible recovery, he has a heck of a lot better DI, but he's not as fast and has terrible MUs. Which are all places Tink excels.

TheEvilDookie
07-27-2010, 12:20 AM
If you're kicking @ss with Link its simply because the people you play are garbage. Then agian this game overall is garbage, Melee4Life



Try me, I dare you.

General Dunsparce
07-27-2010, 12:22 AM
Can I try you?

TheEvilDookie
07-27-2010, 12:52 AM
Can I try you?

Some time this week during the day if you want

JokesterJesse
07-27-2010, 12:54 AM
If anyone wants to play me at brawl im good every day but Tuesday and Wednesday of this week just IM or Vm me and Ill give you my FC and whatnot.

~JKJesse~

General Dunsparce
07-27-2010, 01:00 AM
Same here, but fellers, Imma let you know that I'm about to be power ranked in a state that is above average. So it means something... Just not as much as like in SoCal lol

Kenny_C.002
07-27-2010, 04:20 AM
Looks like the broad "high, middle, low" tiers are pretty much entirely stable now, with few fluctuations and "huge jumps" between the tiers. Aside from that, the list looks pretty solid.

General Dunsparce
07-27-2010, 05:05 AM
As much as I agree, there's been a lot of changes in characters metagames. But, it's still close.

Moe2
07-28-2010, 12:30 PM
Mmm, well, you do know that haters are gonna hate lol. Not to say brawl or melee is better though. They both have things that make them fun. But then again, all of you hardcore melee fans take it too far with your constant whinning about brawl sucks cause yadda yadda yadda. So what? Just keep to yourself. Some people like brawl, some people like melee some like both lol. It's like, no one wants hear about why brawl sucks and melee is superior. Just go back to your wavedashing and stuff and like not whine about it :/

As for Dylan. Yeah, even though toon link is a clone, it doesn't mean he has to suck. They gave link a terrible recovery, he has a heck of a lot better DI, but he's not as fast and has terrible MUs. Which are all places Tink excels.
Its the fact that Brawl Replaced Melee, Brawl can be what ever it wants to be. But when it replaces the 1 game that I truly liked... it hurts :(
Also as a side note, the people who don't know why meta is Top and Link is bottom, those are the same people who are telling me that Brawl is a much better game than Melee >_<

General Dunsparce
07-28-2010, 01:57 PM
If you've been watching big tourneys like Bio 4 and apex etc, you'd know that Melee is still very popular. You'd know that Brawl hardly got replaced.