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Stardy
01-04-2011, 05:27 PM
Be they something major you hate about it or some small, near-pointless thing that annoys you to no end, let off some steam here.

Biggest one for me is people who have their chorus far longer than the verses themselves, or only have twenty second verses and then lots of cuts to the chorus. I'm specifically looking at Roll Deep, who does both... and anybody else who does it. :tongue:

Also, personal opinion is that Autotune does have its uses for some genres, but it does not belong in pop in the slightest, as pop should showcase vocal talent rather than voice editting to fame; and there needs to be a damn good rap for it to be pulled off in that genre, otherwise just get a good vocalist for the chorus/bridge. A collab isn't that hard. Autotune does have its uses in stuff like, say, most techno genres, so I'm not completely against it.

Megiddo Flame
02-06-2011, 01:41 PM
The lyrics is most rap songs are just utter crap.

They don't even make any sense most of the time.

Doodlebop
02-06-2011, 01:54 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Chaos Control.

Um.... Well.... It's really annoying when people swear in song, especially when there's no need. And usually there isn't. :P

Also, this isn't really music's fault, but you know those guys who play like rap/hip-hop music reeeeaaaallly loudly with the base turned waaaaaay up with the windows rolled down on their car? It's so annoying. >(

Team Razor
02-06-2011, 02:06 PM
I'm going to have to agree with Chaos Control.

Um.... Well.... It's really annoying when people swear in song, especially when there's no need. And usually there isn't. :P

Also, this isn't really music's fault, but you know those guys who play like rap/hip-hop music reeeeaaaallly loudly with the base turned waaaaaay up with the windows rolled down on their car? It's so annoying. >(

Don't remind me, please. A while ago I was having a movie night at my friends house, and then there wass like ten of these morons and their cars who was dragracing on the street. I was sooo annoyed :(

3m0d0ll
02-06-2011, 03:33 PM
Also, this isn't really music's fault, but you know those guys who play like rap/hip-hop music reeeeaaaallly loudly with the base turned waaaaaay up with the windows rolled down on their car? It's so annoying. >(

Yeah!! So I did that... except for I was blasting Megadeath... in Compton (da hoooood).
My, did I get a lot of stares O-O
But sometimes I hate pig-squeals, which is strange considering that German deathcore is in my top three for favorite genres :/

Operative
02-06-2011, 03:53 PM
Autotune does have its uses for some genres, but it does not belong in pop in the slightest, as pop should showcase vocal talent rather than voice editting to fame

i agree and disagree. some pop songs, not necessarily only american music, have a techno-like sound in which autotune is alright. but in no way should autotune take up any more than 1/5 of a song.

Autotune does have its uses in stuff like, say, most techno genres, so I'm not completely against it.

but then again, when has techno ever included that many vocals. :/

The lyrics is most rap songs are just utter crap.

They don't even make any sense most of the time.

You're listening to the wrong kind of rap/most of mainstream rap. Underground or early rappers are much better.

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Hoshika
02-06-2011, 04:45 PM
I don't like most hardstyle, especially this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZzA1tmu-_U

I also don't like when people put LASERS PEW PEW in their songs

Sixto
02-06-2011, 04:55 PM
I don't like most hardstyle, especially this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZzA1tmu-_U

I also don't like when people put LASERS PEW PEW in their songs
Oh wow, I actually like it. XD lol @ pew pew

And I don't like songs where voices are autotuned, shows lack of talent in that department.

3m0d0ll
02-06-2011, 04:57 PM
Oh wow, I actually like it. XD lol @ pew pew

And I don't like songs where voices are autotuned, shows lack of talent in that department.

I agree, like, um, what's her face? Keesha? idk, and I'm too lazy to Google it xD

Hoshika
02-06-2011, 05:00 PM
Autotune is only good if it makes sense in the song

i.e. T-Pain lol

Tombi
02-06-2011, 05:26 PM
I tend to get annoyed about people's attitudes towards music more than things IN music. I've been heckled a couple of times- though admittedly the last one was only 'IT'S WAYNE'S WORLD, WAYNE'S WORLD' being shouted at me- but my good friend lives in a town that's severely horrendous in terms of acceptance, and as he has long hair and a denim jacket, other teenagers actually spit at him.

I'm having to think hard about actual things I hate, as I listen to NOTHING I dislike. If the radio is on, my headphones will be on, simple as that. However I've just thought of one thing... you know that thing that every song played on the radio now has? It's like a rhythm that sounds like a clap. Like boom-clap-boom-clap. EVERY SONG HAS IT. IT'S SO CONFUSING.

Autotuning is also very annoying and warbly (ooOoOaaHAhahaahAHahooOoooOoOoooguuuuurrrlll), though it's fun to try to imagine what the singer ACTUALLY sounds like. :P People are apparently very quick to settle with **** stuff nowadays.

I think Rap irritates me because the stuff I hear is just a constant onslaught of words. I literally end up saying 'oh my god, turn it off!' because it makes me grind my teeth. Saying that, it's the same for very long guitar solos that are completely mental. An example of that is here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baQDgcFr0Rc), at the start of the song, although I absolutely adore that band. The intro is, admittedly, dreadful. The rest of the song is great. ♥

MaskedJackal
02-06-2011, 05:33 PM
I can't stand cheesy folk influences in metal.

Neo Emolga
02-06-2011, 06:28 PM
I also hate excessive swearing in songs. To me, swear words have lost a lot of their "shock value," and nowadays you hear them so often that they're meaningless. If they're occasionally used with reason and meaning to express frustration and anger, then its understandable, but if they're dropping the F bomb constantly in a song for no bloody reason, I just want to shut it off. I'd rather hear a baby whining.

On another note, I listen to a lot of techno/trance, and one of the things that's a major turnoff for me with that genre are the loud, high-pitched, squeaky synthesizer sounds they sometimes use for some of those songs. I also hate techno songs that seem to take FOREVER to get going and hit that "climax" where the tempo shoots up and really gets the pace of the song moving (I prefer fast-paced songs to begin with, but I have patience for songs that have a brief "warm up" period). And yes, there are many techno songs that never even get to that point, and just seem to be a slow and endless repetition of repeated beats and subtle sounds.

Also, I would like to know where and how slapping anime pictures on techno and trance songs for YouTube song videos got started. I don't hate it, but you see it everywhere. :P

3m0d0ll
02-06-2011, 06:32 PM
..."climax"...

Say climax again.

Haze
02-06-2011, 06:59 PM
I can't stand most metal and screaming.

Other than that nothing really bugs me (except willow smith but that's a different story)

Stardy
02-06-2011, 07:02 PM
i agree and disagree. some pop songs, not necessarily only american music, have a techno-like sound in which autotune is alright. but in no way should autotune take up any more than 1/5 of a song.


but then again, when has techno ever included that many vocals. :/

For Techno including it, not a lot. At all. But it's generally the only way to go if it is ever used. Clean vocals across a sweet techno breakdown in the background? Just won't work. At all.

For the first part, eh, I guess. The Techno-pop songs (I'll just call it Club for short, for a simple term) that use it do generally benefit from it, but more times than not its because of the techno beat (see above), in which you simply can't have a clean vocal across, otherwise it just won't work, or will be out of place. Club songs do benefit from it, but really, like you said, shouldn't take up more than 1/5th of a song.

-Pichu Boy-
02-06-2011, 08:44 PM
IMO, if a person can prove they can sing when they sing live without the aid of autotune, then they can use it in the studio. Not saying it's the best thing to do, but it's justified.

However, performances like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETzEwBKnmLg) makes me start to question the artist's place in the music industry. Will.i.am's auto-tune was horrible. Admittedly, they were dancing around a lot, but Fergie didn't use autotune, so what's Will.i.am's excuse?

3m0d0ll
02-06-2011, 11:25 PM
I think autotuneing can be used only to make a song sound how the writer wanted it to sound in their head, but if the singer needs it to actually sound 'good', then they should simply be replaced.

Also, since I live with an Aunt who loves rap/hip-hop, she's playing some of her collection for the Super Bowl.
Rap pisses me off. When I hear it, I just want to murder something like Lois does in that one episode of Family Guy where they run out of paper towels on Christmas. I also feel like puking. Like literally, bile rises in my throat. Yeah, it's really gross.
The word 'hate' doesn't begin to describe how I feel about Rap.

EDIT:
Strangely enough, the only thing that calms me down is Thrash Metal :P

Rhys!
02-06-2011, 11:30 PM
Songs with long intros.
I get bored easily. :/

miyoun
02-07-2011, 12:44 AM
(i use kpop songs as examples because autotune is used mainly in those songs that i listen to)

Let's clear something up. OP said autotune shouldn't be used in pop songs. Since pop actually means popular, I'm just going to throw it out that it's okay for autotune to be used.

The music I listen to has a lot of autotuned songs, but all the artists CAN sing live. It's just the picture of the song, cannot always be made with clear vocals.

Take this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yW13T2sfKg) for example. 2NE1 are known for their producer (Teddy Park) to be very autotune happy in ALL of 2NE1's songs. You can tell that there is definitely too much autotune. If you skip to 1.32 to when Bom Park (Jenny Park w/e you want to call her) sings, there is little to no autotune. Then when Dara starts to sing, there is still some autotune on her voice.
To be honest, most of the autotune works in this song despite there being a lot. They can sing, (especially Bom) and have proved it in other songs, but they absolutely suck live (especially Bom and CL) and need the aid of autotuned backing vocals.

But compare it to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djJb5iSL0Do). The actual song itself has very minimal autotune but does use a lot of vocal effects to set the mood of the song. It works out a lot better, and these guys are great live. Another example of good vocal effects in a song is in Gummy (거미) - 사랑은 없다. There isn't any autotune and a few vocal effects at "hoh no more drama" and stuff. works great)

Okay, I don't listen to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShyNf9LCvEg)group but they're critized a lot for the use of autotune on their songs. I can't even listen to the whole thing it's so bad.
Clearly it does not work. I know one of them as an ex-member of a ballad group called XING and he has an amazing voice. Shame in this group there is SO much autotune. If you compare this to 2NE1, 2NE1 seems to have hardly any autotune next to this.
There is also a lot of vocal effects that don't work.

I just scoured through over 3000 songs to find one with autotune that actually sounded overly amazing, you know what. I couldn't find one that was completely autotuned that actually sounded good.


tl;dr
autotune isn't as bad as people make it out to be

Lan.exe
02-07-2011, 01:25 AM
I hate any music that isn't meant to be played at a retardedly loud volume. General rule of thumb, it has to sound good in a skateboarding video. Of course, there are exceptions.

Finch
02-07-2011, 02:50 AM
Basically, I hate accents that people don't have, or exaggerate heavily...

Examples:
Lily Allen
Kate Nash
Arctic Monkeys
Wombats

OK so it's all britshit. But you get the drift, aye?

Tombi
02-07-2011, 08:21 PM
Strangely enough, the only thing that calms me down is Thrash Metal :P

Very odd. Thrash is meant to feckin' stir you up man, make you crazy. My mate went to see Sodom last night and his bullet belt literally came off, and he ended up crowdsurfing with ammunition in his fist. \m/

Tell me, which thrash bands calm you down? :P

Finch
02-07-2011, 08:48 PM
Very odd. Thrash is meant to feckin' stir you up man, make you crazy. My mate went to see Sodom last night and his bullet belt literally came off, and he ended up crowdsurfing with ammunition in his fist. \m/

Tell me, which thrash bands calm you down? :P
Nothing else matters is a calming song by a thrash ba- owait metallica lol

3m0d0ll
02-07-2011, 10:41 PM
Very odd. Thrash is meant to feckin' stir you up man, make you crazy. My mate went to see Sodom last night and his bullet belt literally came off, and he ended up crowdsurfing with ammunition in his fist. \m/

Tell me, which thrash bands calm you down? :P

Personally, I think metal calms me down because it overpowers the Rap. Not just because it's epicer, but because it's simply louder ^.^
It's also familiar territory. Like, you know how when you get a hamster and they don't eat for a couple hours after you put him in his new home because he's uncomfortable so you have to play a reggae CD and then he starts running on his little wheel, then he eats food and passes out? Same thing.
Well... that's the worst comparison ever, but you probably get my point xD
Anyway, to answer your question:

Sworn Amongst (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuY4jiZhjRI”), Dimension Zero (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NMEF-oN_uo”), 44 Caliber Killer (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BdhwsZkkVM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL”), Dishammer (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQ4r7wAjE4”), doesmaidencountasthrash? (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpFYROlRqK0”)

EDIT:
It's not REAL ammunition, is it? xD
Idk about where you live, but in America, that's illegal :P

Etymology
02-07-2011, 11:04 PM
I can't stand most metal and screaming.

Other than that nothing really bugs me (except willow smith but that's a different story)

This summed it up pretty nicely.

Finch
02-08-2011, 12:18 AM
doesmaidencountasthrash?

EDIT:
It's not REAL ammunition, is it? xD
Idk about where you live, but in America, that's illegal :P

1. No because it's not :P
2. It's spent ammo, not live. Perfectly legal

Tombi
02-09-2011, 11:18 PM
Personally, I think metal calms me down because it overpowers the Rap. Not just because it's epicer, but because it's simply louder ^.^
It's also familiar territory. Like, you know how when you get a hamster and they don't eat for a couple hours after you put him in his new home because he's uncomfortable so you have to play a reggae CD and then he starts running on his little wheel, then he eats food and passes out? Same thing.
Well... that's the worst comparison ever, but you probably get my point xD
Anyway, to answer your question:

Sworn Amongst (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuY4jiZhjRI”), Dimension Zero (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NMEF-oN_uo”), 44 Caliber Killer (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BdhwsZkkVM&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL”), Dishammer (”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqQ4r7wAjE4), doesmaidencountasthrash? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpFYROlRqK0)

EDIT:
It's not REAL ammunition, is it? xD
Idk about where you live, but in America, that's illegal :P

There's plenty of metal that chills me out, but thrash? If it calms you down, it's not doing its job right. I mean, when this starts playing at BOA this year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcK6XoreTE), I doubt the crowd's gonna be sitting on the grass!

Have you experienced any live? I reckon if I went up to a thrash band after they played a gig and said 'thanks man, that chilled me out', they'd probably be insulted! Last time I saw a thrash band I was privileged enough to have the frontman kneel in front of me and let me share the mic for the best bit of the song. 1:38-1:52 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHxr6fP22MM)! When he came to give me a high five afterwards, I certainly wasn't calm, I was shaking like a shitting dog and all I could say was 'thanks man, that was ******* AWESOME'

I dunno, I just find it very strange indeed. Go to a gig!

And aye, what Dan said. Though I've been stopped at train stations, airports and gig venues.

3m0d0ll
02-09-2011, 11:54 PM
There's plenty of metal that chills me out, but thrash? If it calms you down, it's not doing its job right. I mean, when this starts playing at BOA this year (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcK6XoreTE), I doubt the crowd's gonna be sitting on the grass!

Have you experienced any live? I reckon if I went up to a thrash band after they played a gig and said 'thanks man, that chilled me out', they'd probably be insulted! Last time I saw a thrash band I was privileged enough to have the frontman kneel in front of me and let me share the mic for the best bit of the song. 1:38-1:52 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHxr6fP22MM)! When he came to give me a high five afterwards, I certainly wasn't calm, I was shaking like a shitting dog and all I could say was 'thanks man, that was ******* AWESOME'

I dunno, I just find it very strange indeed. Go to a gig!

And aye, what Dan said. Though I've been stopped at train stations, airports and gig venues.

:O
I think I need to clarify what I said. xD
Thrash calm me down when I'm being forced to listen to Rap. In any other scenario... well, let's just say that I've sprained my neck quite a few times ^_^;

And I've only been to three concerts - other than when my dad was the front man for Taking Fire (http://takingfire.com/about.html) - during my life.
First: Iron Maiden. \m/ But my dad literally duct taped my wrists to my chair xD
Second: nevershoutnever .__. I have no comment to this other than Chris looked at me and smiled and I nearly pissed my pants. But in my defense, I was wearing my Guns N' Roses shirt c: ♥
Third: BVB :P Yeah, all in all it was a sick-ass show.

ReclusiveDemon
02-10-2011, 02:17 AM
Very odd. Thrash is meant to feckin' stir you up man, make you crazy.

There's plenty of metal that chills me out, but thrash? If it calms you down, it's not doing its job right.
You're saying this as if you're doing it wrong by listening to Thrash Metal in an orthodox manner, which means most people are listening to it in the wrong way. Any band can relax you so long as you enjoy the music, Thrash being no exception.

The best way to describe this is the fact that most people are relaxing when listening to almost any form of music. When you're listening to almost any form of music, what are you typically doing? You're sitting in your home, in your car, on the bus, on the train-- you're sitting or lounging, listening to music. This is enjoyment, isolation: relaxation. We do this with every form of music. If people were supposed to always get pumped and crazy from listening to an aggressive form of music (Hardcore, Grindcore, Thrash, Death, Black), then a majority of the population which enjoyed that music would have permanent brain damage and spinal injury due to headbanging and thrashing.

There is no wrong way to enjoy any form of music.

The Maple Syrup Baptist
02-10-2011, 02:40 AM
Yeah, no right way to enjoy music. How and why an artist makes music is only the start; how you choose to enjoy it is something entirely up to the listener. Any genre of music can't do one single job; the job it does is different from artist to listener.

This is also why indirect songs about pain are so prevalent; you can attach your own specific feelings to the song and personalize it. Same goes with music itself. Just because an artist makes a fast and aggressive thrash song about rage and destruction doesn't mean you can't just sit back with a beer and zone out.

As for things I hate in music, people who just go through the motions and don't feel their own music. Like 95% of pop radio artists. I hate when people write off metal as "loud, angry, screaming, devil worship", etc. I'd like to judo kick them in the stomage. Also Justin Bieber in general.

Neo Emolga
02-10-2011, 03:20 AM
People who say metal is devil worship know nothing about metal, and to me, that's a truly ignorant stereotype of the genre and those who listen to it. In fact, there's even Christian metal out there, which proves that those who assume that stereotype is true truly know nothing about metal. It's simply a style and a genre, meant for some people, not for others, like all genres of music.

Tombi
02-10-2011, 07:43 PM
You're saying this as if you're doing it wrong by listening to Thrash Metal in an orthodox manner, which means most people are listening to it in the wrong way. Any band can relax you so long as you enjoy the music, Thrash being no exception.

The best way to describe this is the fact that most people are relaxing when listening to almost any form of music. When you're listening to almost any form of music, what are you typically doing? You're sitting in your home, in your car, on the bus, on the train-- you're sitting or lounging, listening to music. This is enjoyment, isolation: relaxation. We do this with every form of music. If people were supposed to always get pumped and crazy from listening to an aggressive form of music (Hardcore, Grindcore, Thrash, Death, Black), then a majority of the population which enjoyed that music would have permanent brain damage and spinal injury due to headbanging and thrashing.

There is no wrong way to enjoy any form of music.

I know that, man, but personally when I listen to thrash, I'm rarely totally slumped and relaxed like I would be if I'm listening to neofolk. Thrash makes me at LEAST tap my foot, it's a genre that draws you in and makes you nod your head. Even if I'm listening to it through headphones, I'll be tapping out the drums with my fingers, moving my head, wiggling my foot, but with, say, Vali, I've fallen asleep on the bus.
Yeah, music is a form of recreation and enjoyment, but I can't see how something as bloodpumping as thrash can just make you... I dunno. My personal reactions to say, Mastery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_3tD02eraU) and Empyrium (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW6cMhiLl_4) are completely and utterly different, and they would be through both speakers and a live setting. I could never relax to thrash, thus why I proclaimed it odd, and the thrash metallers I've had the privilege of meeting have been the craziest motherfuckers I've ever seen.

I know man, I just said I found it odd.

@Mitch: Yeah man, but I guess I'm not getting my point across. The only time I can imagine zoning out to thrash is if I'm completely exhausted. I was at a party (Miranda's :P) the other day and I was totally dead a lot of the time, but when my friend put Kreator on, they all went 'wheeey, Cait's perked up!' 'cause I was UP. As soon as it went off, I was back to being glassy-eyed. If thrash comes on, I'm moving in my chair. If I want to relax, I'll have some neofolk. Perhaps it's just me, but from the people I've experienced and from my own experiences, thrash is not a calm genre! :P

@Neo: There's even Christian black metal. xD

Woodchuck
02-10-2011, 09:49 PM
Perhaps it's just me, but from the people I've experienced and from my own experiences, thrash is not a calm genre! :P

That depends. I listen to it when I run because it's a great way to get myself psyched up and ready to go. However, when I need to, say, write a lengthy paper for a school assignment, I often crank up some Ulysses Siren or Coroner because it chills me out and helps me focus. Thrash can work both ways. Perhaps the guys you know are just excitable in general. xD

Tombi
02-10-2011, 10:01 PM
That depends. I listen to it when I run because it's a great way to get myself psyched up and ready to go. However, when I need to, say, write a lengthy paper for a school assignment, I often crank up some Ulysses Siren or Coroner because it chills me out and helps me focus. Thrash can work both ways. Perhaps the guys you know are just excitable in general. xD

xD They can be excitable I guess, but also the moodiest, grumpiest bastards you've ever laid eyes on ♥
MAYBE IT DIFFERS COUNTRY-TO-COUNTRY. xDD

Synester
02-18-2011, 03:17 PM
Personally, I hate Metal and any form of it. Mainly due to people acting is it the superior genre to all music :tongue:

Masami
02-18-2011, 03:24 PM
Personally, I hate Metal and any form of it. Mainly due to people acting is it the superior genre to all music :tongue:

That would be because, In Britain atleast there is a culture of people being constantly persecuted for their choice of music, verbally and physically.
Doesn't happen to me really, but I know many people it does happen to.

So they have a right to justify their suffering, really.

Pokeboy sarab
02-18-2011, 05:56 PM
Will.I.Am and all his futurustic nonsense. I think he's going too overboard with it. Even autotune is going overboard now.

I'm also tired of all the freaky gimmicks. There's a difference between it being artsy with a purpose and freaky just for the sake of getting views. I wish we could go back to times where music required talent.

Also I hate teen girls and their freakish obsession with artists like Bieber, Jonas brothers, etc. It just propels them ahead of more talented artists.

Tombi
02-18-2011, 06:39 PM
Personally, I hate Metal and any form of it. Mainly due to people acting is it the superior genre to all music :tongue:

That's a response to those who abuse us in the first place~~~~

Though when I get heckled in the street I only usually reply with a middle finger, cause I know I have a bloody good night out planned at the weekend which involves several bands and some of the nicest people you could ever meet. I bet if you went to a metal show- in Europe, at least, dunno what the weirdos in America are like- you'd make a bunch of new friends even if you hate the music. We don't really give much of a ****.

Masami
02-18-2011, 11:39 PM
That's a response to those who abuse us in the first place~~~~

Though when I get heckled in the street I only usually reply with a middle finger, cause I know I have a bloody good night out planned at the weekend which involves several bands and some of the nicest people you could ever meet. I bet if you went to a metal show- in Europe, at least, dunno what the weirdos in America are like- you'd make a bunch of new friends even if you hate the music. We don't really give much of a ****.

I comppletely agree with this informed, yet retarded, young lady.

Pokemon_Ron
02-19-2011, 09:57 PM
I bet if you went to a metal show- in Europe, at least, dunno what the weirdos in America are like- you'd make a bunch of new friends even if you hate the music. We don't really give much of a ****.

In the metal shows I've gone to, mostly metalcore(bullet for my valentine, all that remains, etc. etc.), a lot of the 'metal heads' are completely ********, and are arrogant mostly.

But, one thing I hate in music is the people that try to shove their genre of music down your throat and claim "its the best". Every genre of music is different, and everyone is mostly different, so why think everyone needs to like the same kind of music.
That's it,
me is done/
<3

kiddoman
05-31-2011, 09:31 AM
Some terrible rapper do it like a shXt! I just want to let them cut the crap!

OR, some depressing tone without any connotation, which just makes me sleepy!

IT
06-10-2011, 11:13 AM
Commercialization and selling out are the only things I despise and nothing good generally comes out of either.

Acil
06-10-2011, 11:34 AM
Commercialization and selling out are the only things I despise and nothing good generally comes out of either.
Yes, I absolutely agree with you. That's the reason I'm rolling on such things as Creative Commons licensed works (maybe other unrestrictive licenses as well, or even in public domain :D heh) and communities on free (as in freedom, you got it) music like Jamendo.

J-snivy
06-13-2011, 12:06 AM
I hate It when Producers say their name in a song they produced, This drives me nuts when people like "Jr rotem" (AKA: J-J-J-J-JR guy) do it. Basically, Its when a producer will produce a song for an artist, And then In a random part of the song (most of the time the first few seconds) they have an
"audio watermark" which has their name, Even worse Is when they not only have their name, but also a weird sound (JR has this weird horn sound) at the end or middle of the song, I don't know why, but It drives me nuts. The only person I like who does this occasionally Is busy P.

I also hate "cheap" sampling, Sampling Is when a song will have a part of another song In It (most of the time Its looped or made higher/lower In pitch), Don't get me wrong, Some artists like renard queenston do very Interesting samples, Only playing a part of a song and doing Interesting things to it.
But a good example of cheap obvious sampling would be beyonce's "run the world girls" which Is litteraly just her talking over major lazer's pon de floor.

atucker22
06-22-2011, 03:23 AM
How badly autotune is abused makes me mad, and also how all pop songs recently are basically the same thing. I can't explain it very well, but it really grinds my gears

Phantom Kat
06-22-2011, 05:18 AM
While I listen to a lot of music I don't really listen to a lot of the mainstream music or the music that is currently making news. I actually listen mostly to foreign music. However, one of the things I get annoyed by is when I'm listening to a romance song or a ballad and during the middle of it someone begins to rap. Not only does it break the mood but I'm not particularly fond of rap. In my opinion the rapping feature in songs ruins it. It's just my opinion, though.

- Kat

Vanity
06-22-2011, 05:19 AM
I hate how every song on the radio uses a ****** commercial house beat. Stop trying to take another genre's thing!
Autotune is like a sex slave to them.
There's like no real talented people on there.
No artist does what they want, there controlled by there labels.


I'm over them taking my electronica music and applying it to there own songs, go away and ruin a different genre. And these days there combing dubstep into there songs too... When will it end?

J-snivy
06-22-2011, 11:33 PM
I hate how every song on the radio uses a ****** commercial house beat. Stop trying to take another genre's thing!
Autotune is like a sex slave to them.
There's like no real talented people on there.
No artist does what they want, there controlled by there labels.


I'm over them taking my electronica music and applying it to there own songs, go away and ruin a different genre. And these days there combing dubstep into there songs too... When will it end?

I agree dude. I hate commercial rip of dance music. Why do we need Idiot Britney spears to do dubstep music?. Its all cheaply produced and I could produce better than most of these "producers" (Trust Me, I use logic and fl studio to make beats which are 10X better than 90% of this commercial junk)

Teddiursa of the Sky
06-22-2011, 11:41 PM
They all use the stock instrument samples (I like Deadmau5 because he uses his own sounds).

They all use autotune.

Ke$ha.

Record companies.

Drugs.

Sight of the Stars
06-23-2011, 12:15 AM
Screamo. I mean... I don't have anything against people who do it, but it's annoying when I can't get what they're saying.

Judgmental Arceus
06-23-2011, 02:28 AM
Unoriginaliyt
Autotune to the maximum
Lack of enunciation
Significant increase in profanity vs legitimate lyrics
The fact that everything is silly dance music
Crappy lyrics in general
The fact that music is mostly made for money, not for fun
other assorted reasons


Honestly if for once people could be original and make music that isnt the same repetitive bulls**t over and over then I might be more interested in mainstream music.

Cut the silliness and start making some serious music.

Sight of the Stars
06-23-2011, 02:38 AM
That reminds me. I freaking despise it when they do nothing but repeat the same thing over and over again. This is another reason why remixes annoy the freak out of me, too. (x I love songs that have meaningful lyrics, and hardly ever repeat themselves except with the occasional chorus, as in good rap songs like Mockingbird, by Eminem (I don't listen to rap, but I just like the piano and the lyrcis), and rock like New Divide and In the End by Linkin Park.

3m0d0ll
06-23-2011, 09:26 AM
Screamo. I mean... I don't have anything against people who do it, but it's annoying when I can't get what they're saying.
I kinda get what you're saying, I guess, but 'Screamo' (accurately called post-hardcore or metalcore) is far from the only genre of music to scream or growl. xDD Also, I've been listening to many different types of core for about four years now, so I can understand the lyrics almost instantly, the majority of the time. :>

Saraibre Ryu
06-23-2011, 09:29 AM
Advertisements in the middle/end of song songs I have.
Nothing bothers me more.

SLC
06-23-2011, 06:28 PM
That reminds me. I freaking despise it when they do nothing but repeat the same thing over and over again. This is another reason why remixes annoy the freak out of me, too. (x I love songs that have meaningful lyrics, and hardly ever repeat themselves except with the occasional chorus, as in good rap songs like Mockingbird, by Eminem (I don't listen to rap, but I just like the piano and the lyrcis), and rock like New Divide and In the End by Linkin Park.

YES. EMINEM.

I like his rap, and a little bit of the others. I can't stand pure-rap songs though - the chorus nees to be more exciting :3

atucker22
06-30-2011, 06:34 PM
I kinda get what you're saying, I guess, but 'Screamo' (accurately called post-hardcore or metalcore) is far from the only genre of music to scream or growl. xDD Also, I've been listening to many different types of core for about four years now, so I can understand the lyrics almost instantly, the majority of the time. :>

Yes! Only the people that don't understand "screamo" are the people that call it screamo hahaha

Frost Dragon
07-01-2011, 03:12 AM
I absolutely hate lyrics. period. I don't really know why, but 99% op my itunes library is instrumental.

Peace Buyer
07-14-2011, 08:22 PM
I hate the message and lyrics rap has.

The Jr Trainer
07-14-2011, 08:52 PM
I hate the message and lyrics rap has.

That is quite a generalization you have going there.

Cobalt Shadow
09-06-2011, 04:35 AM
I hate most techno music, I like rock because it actually requires years of practise to pull it off. Being a guitarist it pisses me off to know that I could practise for years and never get noticed, yet some nobody who can make noises on a computer can get famous off one song

Teddiursa of the Sky
09-06-2011, 06:47 AM
I hate most techno music, I like rock because it actually requires years of practise to pull it off. Being a guitarist it pisses me off to know that I could practise for years and never get noticed, yet some nobody who can make noises on a computer can get famous off one song

It takes skill to create music with a computer. It is not like you can just sit down and immediately make a track in a month that sounds like Deadmau5 or Skrillex.

Since most synth and synth basses are made from scratch with several different sounds, such as a sawtooth etc, it does actually take some skill. And then to play it live, at a concert, is also amazing. You should check out Deadmau5's Ustream to see how difficult it actually is.

katosen27
09-06-2011, 06:47 AM
I hate most techno music, I like rock because it actually requires years of practise to pull it off. Being a guitarist it pisses me off to know that I could practise for years and never get noticed, yet some nobody who can make noises on a computer can get famous off one song
I dislike mainstream music because they all sound the same (to me) or you hear one song from a band and then never hear from them again. Today's music industry doesn't allow many bands to grow unless they make excellent bank. And THAT pisses me off.

I also dislike rap and country. Then again, thats just my taste.

Otherwise, I prefer progressive metal and progressive rock over most other forms. Very relaxing, long tracks, and epic sounding.

Teddiursa of the Sky
09-06-2011, 02:12 PM
I dislike mainstream music because they all sound the same (to me) or you hear one song from a band and then never hear from them again. Today's music industry doesn't allow many bands to grow unless they make excellent bank. And THAT pisses me off.

I also dislike rap and country. Then again, thats just my taste.

Otherwise, I prefer progressive metal and progressive rock over most other forms. Very relaxing, long tracks, and epic sounding.

There really is no such thing as a "music industry" anymore. Truth is, anybody can become a musical star. Since becoming an independent music producer is the new "thing", one really does not need a big licence to be big. Skrillex, for instance. He is mainstream, and all he did was release his first album on Youtube, not expecting to be big.

It depends on which genre you listen to when you consider things to be mainstream.

Captain Jack Harkness
09-13-2011, 08:59 AM
Autotune. If you can't sing properly, don't.

Max0596
09-17-2011, 06:43 AM
I also hate rap. Details below.
-It's all about bi***es and ho**, and money. Can't they think of something better to sing about?
-It contains a LOT of swearing. I heard one song where every second word was literally a swear.
-It's really racist-I hea a lot of N words being thrown around in rap.
-It's sexist, and very degrading towards women, treating them like tools.

But I like County, because it sings about the little things. It's all in the details! I feel as if everyone was like a county song, we would be pretty good off.

Pop is kinda in the middle, but usually good and not as bad as rap.

Gunge/death metal music is all about death, and is really depressing. Again, can't they find anything better to sing about then blood and death?

Cheerful Cherubi
09-17-2011, 07:15 AM
I hate songs that become overplayed. I always find songs that no one knows about like a month before, but then they get played like 1 million times a day on the radio, and they become uber popular! >.<

Teddiursa of the Sky
09-17-2011, 09:32 AM
I also hate rap. Details below.
-It's all about bi***es and ho**, and money. Can't they think of something better to sing about?
-It contains a LOT of swearing. I heard one song where every second word was literally a swear.
-It's really racist-I hea a lot of N words being thrown around in rap.
-It's sexist, and very degrading towards women, treating them like tools.

But I like County, because it sings about the little things. It's all in the details! I feel as if everyone was like a county song, we would be pretty good off.

Pop is kinda in the middle, but usually good and not as bad as rap.

Gunge/death metal music is all about death, and is really depressing. Again, can't they find anything better to sing about then blood and death?

Ahaha! It is okay when black people call each other ni99ers. It is not okay when a white person does. Oh. And just to tell you. This group (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNw2mW5zhH0) does rap, and they don't rap about b*tches and hos.

Plenty of country songs have cussing in it.

Dino
09-17-2011, 01:29 PM
Rap.
I dislike it because to me it doesn't bring me pleasure. I think listening to music should be something that brings a smile to your face or makes you feel an emotion. Rap doesn't seem to evoke any emotion, it just feels like their is a guy yelling at you.

Rock, Metal, and anything like that.
Nothing against rock, because I can see how much work they put into it. But listening to hard loud music is not really my thing. Rock evokes emotions, but when it is really heavy I find it somewhat overwhelming. I do like light rock, as long as it is really light.

People who can't sing.
Really, why are you here in the first place.

and Finally, I generally don't like people, who skyrocet to the top everytime a new song comes out, and that song is played over and over again. My local radio does that, plays the same song over and over with no variety. And then A song I liked in the first place, then starts to bug me whenever its played. (I don't really hate the artist, just the way that works...)

EDIT: Forgot about Country. Can't stand that stuff.
I think it is the tone they use to sing, but country has never settled nicely with me. I'm not sure what I find wrong in it, but ehhh...

3m0d0ll
09-18-2011, 03:22 AM
Gunge/death metal music is all about death, and is really depressing. Again, can't they find anything better to sing about then blood and death?
Your ignorance amuses me; this sentence made me rofl endlessly. Troll harder.

Teddiursa of the Sky
09-18-2011, 10:14 AM
Rap.
I dislike it because to me it doesn't bring me pleasure. I think listening to music should be something that brings a smile to your face or makes you feel an emotion. Rap doesn't seem to evoke any emotion, it just feels like their is a guy yelling at you.

Rock, Metal, and anything like that.
Nothing against rock, because I can see how much work they put into it. But listening to hard loud music is not really my thing. Rock evokes emotions, but when it is really heavy I find it somewhat overwhelming. I do like light rock, as long as it is really light.

People who can't sing.
Really, why are you here in the first place.

and Finally, I generally don't like people, who skyrocet to the top everytime a new song comes out, and that song is played over and over again. My local radio does that, plays the same song over and over with no variety. And then A song I liked in the first place, then starts to bug me whenever its played. (I don't really hate the artist, just the way that works...)

EDIT: Forgot about Country. Can't stand that stuff.
I think it is the tone they use to sing, but country has never settled nicely with me. I'm not sure what I find wrong in it, but ehhh...

A lot of rap makes me feel anger.

A lot of pop, hip hop, country, and rock make me feel sad.

A lot of electronic makes me feel happy and energized.

3m0d0ll
09-18-2011, 05:57 PM
and Finally, I generally don't like people, who skyrocet to the top everytime a new song comes out, and that song is played over and over again. My local radio does that, plays the same song over and over with no variety. And then A song I liked in the first place, then starts to bug me whenever its played. (I don't really hate the artist, just the way that works...)

This is pretty much the reason I don't like the Beatles - their songs were played over and over. >_< The 'artists' that are played in a continuous loop and people like Katy Perry (who I heard is amazing live. But if she has such an awesome voice, then why autotune everything? :/ If she's going for a certain sound, then have a few raw songs, too), Justin Bieber (his craze is over, thank God), and some chic that sounds like poo even though her voice is autotuned to death.

Anyway, I hate how radios never play any music that I like. :< I could go to a classic rock station and maybe hear one or two songs that I love every half-hour, but I have yet to find a metalcore/thrash metal station. </3

Dino
09-19-2011, 02:46 AM
A lot of rap makes me feel anger.

A lot of pop, hip hop, country, and rock make me feel sad.

A lot of electronic makes me feel happy and energized.

I don't deny that those give off those emotions.
Rap doesn't evoke a emotion for me, because I want to block it out completely. lol. But I agree with you on all other points.


This is pretty much the reason I don't like the Beatles - their songs were played over and over. >_< The 'artists' that are played in a continuous loop and people like Katy Perry (who I heard is amazing live. But if she has such an awesome voice, then why autotune everything? :/ If she's going for a certain sound, then have a few raw songs, too), Justin Bieber (his craze is over, thank God), and some chic that sounds like poo even though her voice is autotuned to death.

Anyway, I hate how radios never play any music that I like. :< I could go to a classic rock station and maybe hear one or two songs that I love every half-hour, but I have yet to find a metalcore/thrash metal station. </3

Autotune poo actually has a kinda cool voice, I think, when actually singing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Wof32u1-Q). lol

Anyway. I know what you mean. :p But, Pandora is my only radio pretty much, for that reason.
Also, your music would scare me. xD

Max0596
09-19-2011, 06:45 AM
Your ignorance amuses me; this sentence made me rofl endlessly. Troll harder.

I'm not trolling, and I never do. I was anwsering the question that this thread proposed, not quarreling with you. Those are my outlooks, and I don't really care what your views are on them. If you want to pick a fight with me, please don't.

I've much to do, and not much time to do it, xD. Please go question someone else's thoughts on a matter. I'm not a troll, nor do I want that label attatched to me by you or anyone else.

Yes, I know you are a mod. But if you want to pick fights for no reason with me, I will not like you as a person, and will question your position within PE2K. This is between you and me, and I'm asking you to back off.

Saraibre Ryu
09-19-2011, 08:08 AM
I hate most techno music, I like rock because it actually requires years of practise to pull it off. Being a guitarist it pisses me off to know that I could practise for years and never get noticed, yet some nobody who can make noises on a computer can get famous off one song

I've made a total of one song using Garage band. It's my first, has some errors in it still but it's not anything easier than learning how to play an instrument and playing music that way. I know. I can understand the frustration here though. Techno music takes just as much practice as rock, as you can end up making a techno song noise if you don't know what you're doing. Actually that applies to all music in general.


Now I've found another few things that bother me. One being the fact a song, has a great tune to it and then the lyrics themselves put me off because it goes on about some nasty crap. Or even the fact the lyrics may make no sense at all what so ever. Anyway that's another subject.

Something else that's been bothering me is that some of the types of songs mentioned above are catchy because they use the same techniques. They aren't always noticable but being the music analyst enthusiast weirdo that I am, I notice them. The following seems to be in almost all tune catchy songs I've heard with unpleasant lyrics:

`120-130 BMP tempo
`Simple backbeat and or rhythm that really sticks out
`Tiny hint of either strings, 8-bit or both in the background
`Electronic bassline that is very simple and easily unheard unless you're looking for it

For me, these are the reasons why the songs are catchy, despite lyrics that talk about what other awful thing you'd expect to hear about in a bad rap song. It seems to be the same thing just in the back, hopefully unnoticed by listeners. Now none of those things in a song actually annoy me, just the combination of them being used in a lot of songs and the fact it's over used it seems.

Some lack of creativity in songs makes me sad. I wish people had more of a mind like Daft Punk who went and combined techno and classical music for the Tron: Legacy Soundtrack. In my personal opinion, best decision made ever and it needs many awards for the best soundtrack ever conceived. That's taking music that's been around for hundreds of years and is on way down one end of the spectrum, and taking techno, which is far the hell down the other side.

Back on the catchy song subject, it also bothers me about great tunes with lyrics we don't need to be hearing on a daily basis is that people will listen to the song over and over, not paying attention to what the song is actually about.


Now to everyone out there who may say all hip-hop and rap is bad and talks about the same thing, it doesn't. Stereotyping it, that's another thing that bugs me, but that's more the people listening to it than the actual music.


I think listening to music should be something that brings a smile to your face or makes you feel an emotion.

I would like to make a comment to this statement. As my great band teacher told my class:

"Music is a second language."

Language is expression and communication, hence what music is, expression and communication. From what you're saying I'd guess from an understanding; you're one of those people who try to stay optimistic and positive, and doesn't like heavy dreary feeling of more grim aspects of reality, and would focus on what good is going on rather than what bad is, and certain tones of voice spoken to you, probably ones that try to hide what's really going on in a persons mind, bother you? Anyway that's getting a bit off topic with my bad habits of alanyzing people...nothing personal against you or anything my brain tends to just go on and on and on like Don't Stop Believing by Journey...

Like typical english or whatever language you may speak, everyone interperets things differently and everyone feels things differently and understands things differently, even if it is the exact same wording in a sentence. Same applies to a song and song lyrics. However everyone is tuned a bit differently, but I can see why you don't like the types of music and other things you mentioned in the rest of the same post I was too lazy to quote.

3m0d0ll
09-20-2011, 01:20 AM
Also, your music would scare me. xD
I get that a lot, sadly enough. :/ And my music - in retrospect - isn't even THAT hard. x'D

MoonKit
09-20-2011, 01:40 AM
Rap
It just makes me feel kind of like the dudes are yelling at you, plus the fact that every other word most of the time is a swear/people calling one another niggas/etc.

Most music makes me want to sing. This, for some reason, makes me want to kill them.
Country
Swears. Everywhere I look there is a swear almost. EVERYONE IN MY FAMILY THINKS IT WOULD SAVE THEIR LIVES
Heavy Metal/Emo/Screamo
...-Covers ears and dun listen-
Justin Bevers (People who just can't sing)
Must I explain? If you can't sing, you can't sing. Its that simple.
Autotuning
If you can't sing, why are you trying to be able to? Its silly.

I would go on, but I would be a troll to those whom lie them.

Shucklulz
09-21-2011, 08:03 PM
Triplet notes. I have never, ever been able to play them and stay on tempo with a song. Q___Q
When people try to pass off assaulting a base guitar and screaming as music.
When fans refuse to listen to anything unless it's on the radio. Seriously, there's more to music than just what gets airtime. :C


That's about it, really.

PS: Autotune is generally only as good as the person using it.

Fierce Deity
09-22-2011, 05:31 AM
What I hate about some music? The people that listen to it are so judgmental. So many people hate rap like it's not a unique form of storytelling over a beat. I never saw or figured out why many people dislike it.

Another thing I hate in music is mainstream. I strongly dislike when a good artist, mainly rapper, stays true to his/her roots rapping what is true and telling stories, but then gets to that level of success where they join mainstream and rap about sex/drugs/guns/etc. Sadly, this happened to the best of them: Jay-Z, Kanye, Lil Wayne, etc.

That's basically it. If you disagree with me on rap or why you hate it, reply to this or inbox me. It shows that you're not open to different genres if you hate it just to hate it, so give me a reason.

Ant2011
09-22-2011, 07:09 AM
94% of all country music. Why? It just doesn't "click" with me the way dubstep, metal, electro-house, and electronic do. I like a constant beat with either a ton of bass drops, sick guitar riffs, or ear tingling synth. I'm not fond of a southern drawl in music, unless the singer is Johnny Cash. Cash is the only country artist I'll ask for. My music library contains just about everything: Daft Punk, Skillet, Insane Clown Posse, The Beatles, Motzart, and Justice just to name a few. So don't say I'm being closed minded. I'll give every genre a chance.

Cheerful Cherubi
09-22-2011, 07:28 AM
I hate that people don't like the music from musicals...
It's not horrible music; it's better than half the crap on the radio. There are modern-day musicals, too, like Green Day's American Idiot! It's literally Green Day's songs with a storyline! Yet, people still call us thespians "gay"... :/

rasta_rude_boy420
10-16-2011, 09:29 AM
What I hate about some music? The people that listen to it are so judgmental.


And not in the right sense... People don't understand how to explain why they "hate" something, so they end up simplifying the thought, and being lazy. lazy muth ***** who listen to the same thing, over and over. Afraid of change, or how to understand something for being different. A lot of music grows on you, and you can dislike something, but to generalize a statement then start an argument over it, isn't the answer. You gotta know your facts, and even then, it's all still opinion, based on preference. I really just don't hate music, because there is someone learning from what's happening, and doing their twist on it. Sometimes you just need to go to a local bar, and you'll catch a set you weren't planning on seeing.

haha. XD

Teddiursa of the Sky
10-16-2011, 11:09 AM
Rap
It just makes me feel kind of like the dudes are yelling at you, plus the fact that every other word most of the time is a swear/people calling one another niggas/etc.

Most music makes me want to sing. This, for some reason, makes me want to kill them.
Country
Swears. Everywhere I look there is a swear almost. EVERYONE IN MY FAMILY THINKS IT WOULD SAVE THEIR LIVES
Heavy Metal/Emo/Screamo
...-Covers ears and dun listen-
Justin Bevers (People who just can't sing)
Must I explain? If you can't sing, you can't sing. Its that simple.
Autotuning
If you can't sing, why are you trying to be able to? Its silly.

I would go on, but I would be a troll to those whom lie them.

Is there anything that you like?

Rap: I'd love to see you rap.

Country: It is something for people with a southern drawl to relate to.

Heavy Metal/Emo/Screamo: You obviously haven't listened to Sexual Man Chocolate by Attack! Attack!, or Dream Theater, or Symphony-X. You really need to listen to a genre thoroughly to say you dislike it.

Justin Bieber: Okay, I seriously hate it when people attack his singing ability. While I do dislike the person, I do not think he lacks talent. He really is a good singer... or should I say, was?

Autotune: Autotune is not only for people who cant sing. You are thinking of Ke$ha or Pink. As I said, you need to look into more than just the surface.

-Pichu Boy-
10-16-2011, 01:46 PM
Is there anything that you like?

Rap: I'd love to see you rap.

Country: It is something for people with a southern drawl to relate to.

Heavy Metal/Emo/Screamo: You obviously haven't listened to Sexual Man Chocolate by Attack! Attack!, or Dream Theater, or Symphony-X. You really need to listen to a genre thoroughly to say you dislike it.

Justin Bieber: Okay, I seriously hate it when people attack his singing ability. While I do not dislike the person, I do not think he lacks talent. He really is a good singer... or should I say, was?

Autotune: Autotune is not only for people who cant sing. You are thinking of Ke$ha or Pink. As I said, you need to look into more than just the surface.

Rap: To be honest, if you've got a sense of rhythm, chances are you can rap. Rapping is basically singing without notes.

Country: ... so people with a southern drawl will relate to music that also has a southern drawl? Ok... don't really get what you're saying there. However, country can be done without swearing. In fact, a lot of the country I've heard there isn't any swearing...

Heavy Metal/Emo/Screamo: Don't patronise people. "You obviously haven't heard...", as if those people will miraculously change their stance on a genre. Just because you like them, doesn't mean others will.

Justin Bieber: Yeah, I agree here. He's quite cocky, from what I gather from him, but he can sing.

Autotune: Ke$ha also uses autotune on the speaking parts - I think it's pretty clear that it's there as part of the genre of the music. If everything else is synthesised, why shouldn't the vocals be?

Although, Moonkit, even with autotune, you can't make a terrible singer brilliant. You can fix the tiny hiccups of good singers, which is what it mostly is. Other times, it's used for effect (like I said, getting into the style of the music).

Teddiursa of the Sky
10-16-2011, 02:13 PM
Rap: To be honest, if you've got a sense of rhythm, chances are you can rap. Rapping is basically singing without notes.

It takes skill to rap. You cannot just get up to the microphone and rap a verse.

Heavy Metal/Emo/Screamo: Don't patronise people. "You obviously haven't heard...", as if those people will miraculously change their stance on a genre. Just because you like them, doesn't mean others will.

No. I am not saying that she will like the genre because of those groups. She is implying that they cannot sing, and all they do is scream. Those bands have beautiful singers.

Justin Bieber: Yeah, I agree here. He's quite cocky, from what I gather from him, but he can sing.

Autotune: Ke$ha also uses autotune on the speaking parts - I think it's pretty clear that it's there as part of the genre of the music. If everything else is synthesised, why shouldn't the vocals be?

Have you heard Ke$ha without autotune? xD God awful dude. It is to cover up the fact that she can't sing for shiz.



Responses in the bold.

MrPolarZero
10-18-2011, 02:15 PM
Justin Bieber.

3m0d0ll
10-20-2011, 01:21 AM
Justin Bieber.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/002/252/me-gusta.jpg?1310883034

fortomorrow
11-08-2011, 08:35 AM
Too much tricks and rhythm modification. Or sometimes whole nonsense rap without any feelings.

goldwynaut
01-31-2012, 11:21 AM
I HATE all new/modern/ music that itunes so called genius keep stuffing down your ears, seriously, that is talking with some n00bs with a bass or whatever in the background. chris medina is an xsample :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQY4dIxY1H4

this is also a pretty xsample http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Teddiursa of the Sky
01-31-2012, 12:12 PM
Do you mean genres like Glitch Hop, Dubstep, DnB, or House? If you do, you are sadly mistaken about some guy talking with a bassline in the background.

If you are talking about hip hop, you are also sadly mistaken. Hip hop has taken a more musical approach than before.

What genre are you referencing.