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Dragon Lover
10-12-2005, 07:05 PM
Gengar (F) @ Petaya Berry ** Genesis
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 26 HP / 233 Spd / 251 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

Steelix (M) @ Leftovers ** Felix
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 188 HP / 103 Atk / 77 Def / 142 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Toxic

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers ** Anny
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 140 Def / 112 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis

Miltank (F) @ Leftovers ** Milkway
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 154 HP / 136 Atk / 108 Def / 16 Spd / 96 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Zangoose (M) @ Salac Berry ** Claw
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance

Lapras (F) @ Leftovers ** Laurah
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 198 Def / 176 SAtk / 136 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar
- Thunderbolt

~DL

Loyal Arcanine
10-12-2005, 07:47 PM
With no grass move on Venusaur, you're a bit Swampert weak to some extent. Give Gengar Giga Drain over Fire Punch. You may also go for a McGar-ish version, but this works too.

No Explosion on Steelix, give it Rest. Explosion is only for things like Suicune, which OHKO's you anyway.

The rest is fair enough, just don't let Lapras die early.

Iceman3k
10-13-2005, 12:32 AM
Gengar (F) @ Petaya Berry ** Genesis
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 26 HP / 233 Spd / 251 SAtk
Mild Nature (+SAtk, -Def)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp
* - It'd be better to convert to BOAHGar. MUCH Better.

Steelix (M) @ Leftovers ** Felix
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 188 HP / 103 Atk / 77 Def / 142 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Toxic
* - Those are some wacky EVs. I'd Prefer Max HP and Attack with a Careful, Adamant, or Impish Nature.

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers ** Anny
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 140 Def / 112 SDef
Sassy Nature (+SDef, -Spd)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis
* - I suppose this works, except for the fact that Swampy and Sala rapes it. Badly.

Miltank (F) @ Leftovers ** Milkway
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 154 HP / 136 Atk / 108 Def / 16 Spd / 96 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink
* - EVs should be Max Attack, and Max Sp. Def, Careful Nature.

Zangoose (M) @ Salac Berry ** Claw
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance
* - Adamant Nature plx

Lapras (F) @ Leftovers ** Laurah
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 198 Def / 176 SAtk / 136 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar
- Thunderbolt
* - EVs in Max HP and Max Sp. Atk. Consider when you put EVs into HP, it's somewhat assisting both Def and Sp. Def.

~DL
Said what I said.

Dragon_Seeker
10-13-2005, 02:19 AM
Gengar (F) @ Leftovers ** Genesis
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 26 HP / 233 Spd / 251 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Thunderbolt
- Will-O-Wisp

You have no moves that run off the Atk stat... why would you use Mild?

Steelix (M) @ Leftovers ** Felix
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 188 HP / 103 Atk / 77 Def / 142 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Toxic

Okay... I'm against Toxic, but sadly he doesn't have anything else to work with... maybe Roar for beating up random Curselaxes. Good job with the Gengar + Steelix physical resistance thing.

Venusaur (M) @ Leftovers ** Anny
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Atk / 140 Def / 112 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Leech Seed
- Sleep Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis

Fine... once again there's a bit of weirdness in the Nature. Unless you WANT to be slower... but I can't see why.

Miltank (F) @ Leftovers ** Milkway
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 154 HP / 136 Atk / 108 Def / 16 Spd / 96 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Heal Bell
- Milk Drink

Hooray for Cursecow. I love it. Especially since Cursecow BEATS Swampert and Snorlax in a Curse-off and pummels them into the ground. Personally, I like more HP for extra health gained by Milk Drink, but whatever.

Zangoose (M) @ Salac Berry ** Claw
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Brick Break
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance

Whatever. Fine by me.

Lapras (F) @ Leftovers ** Laurah
Trait: Water Absorb
EVs: 124 HP / 74 Def / 176 SAtk / 136 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Roar
- Thunderbolt

EVs changed... it has 130 Base HP: use it. 432 HP with 286 SDef and 214 Def is surprisingly annoying to deal with. Lapras actually doesn't counter CBmence, or any physical attacker really, with that crippling Ice type so don't play it like one with lots of Defense. I mean, it's like, the main physical sweepers are Tyranitar, Snorlax (a gray area, but he CAN sweep with Curse), Swampert, Metagross and CBmence. CBmence 2HKOs you with HP Flying. Metagross pummels you into the ground. Snorlax and Swampert rest and Curse (then kill you). Tyranitar... does STAB Rock Slide/HP Rock mean anything to you?

Thoughts: Outside Steelix (and that's pushing it because Focus Punch is like 45%) you really can't fight Boah. Focus Punch/Crunch/Sandstream WILL bring Miltank down. Also, no Spikes protection. Skarmory is a jerk. Make the Gengar a McIceGar for randomness. And so Tyranitar can't switch in on you. And so Blissey doesn't wall you with gratuitous switches to Skarmory/whatever physical sponge they use.

Dragon Lover
10-13-2005, 08:15 AM
Ok, I'm a n00b so what is McIceGar? I know Boah is T-Tar with Subpunch (I think =P).

~DL

Iceman3k
10-13-2005, 01:44 PM
McIceGar (Or w/e they call it) is BOAH-Styled Gengar. Uses SubPunch, Ice Punch, and Thunderbolt.