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Wraith9
12-08-2005, 01:30 PM
Donphan&
Ancientpower,
Earthquake,
Double Edge,
Roar.

Salamence&
Arial Ace,
Brick Break,
Dragon Claw,
Fire Blast/Flamethrower.

Blastoise&
Mirror Coat,
Rain Dance,
Surf,
Skull Bash.

Venusaur&
Sludge Bomb,
Sunny Day,
Solarbeam,
filler-suggestions

Charizard&
Belly Drum,
Flamethrower,
Brick Break,
filler-suggestions

And lastly:
Zapdos&leftovers
Thunder,
Thunder Wave,
Drill Peck,
filler-suggestions

Any suggestions on hold items and moves will be appreciated.
Im planning on transferring them to Colloseum n' all that.
What do ye think?

Finch
12-08-2005, 02:27 PM
Any physical move will be great on charizard. Hidden Power Flying if available. It might be more efficient to use a swords dance set instead of belly drum though.. a liechi or salac berry will work depending on which stat you need most. I prefer rock slide to brick break on salamence too if you have access to the move tutor.

Wraith9
12-08-2005, 02:42 PM
I was thinking about Dragon Dance, (bellyzard would be ideal if i came across like a Heracross etc) and arial ace/wing attack. It's such a pity I can't have ancientpower and dragon dance together on Charizard.
I'm keeping BB on Salamence because it pwns rock, normal, ice and steel.
I got a lot of great ideas from "battle now" on Colloseum.

Ierdar
12-08-2005, 08:37 PM
Donphan&
Ancientpower,
Earthquake,
Double Edge,
Roar.
Sure, what the hey?

Salamence&I never could find anything good to put on Sala. Maybe Lum Berry?
Arial Ace,
Brick Break,
Dragon Claw,
Fire Blast/Flamethrower.
[/b]Personally, Dragon Dance over Dragon Claw. Flamethrower over fireblast. You won't need it much though. =P Fortress?[/b]

Blastoise&Chesto berry if you use rest
Mirror Coat,
Rain Dance,
Surf,
Skull Bash.
Boo, you lose. Ice beam or rest > skull bash. Rain dance isn't really needed in my opinion.

Venusaur&Leechseed+leftovers ;)[/color]
Sludge Bomb,
Sunny Day,
Solarbeam,
filler-suggestions
[b]For the filler, either EQ or Synthesis. =P Leechseed is fun too.

Charizard&Salac is my friend. =P
Belly Drum,
Flamethrower,
Brick Break,
filler-suggestions
EQ or rockslide on Charizard, as well as sword dance over belly drum. With flamethrower, you have no fear of Hera you twit.

And lastly:
Zapdos&leftovers
Thunder,
Thunder Wave,
Drill Peck,
filler-suggestions

Tbolt > Thunder. =\ If you can, HP water for the filler.


I haven't done teams in forever. I know this isn't the best, but dude...it's an improvement. =\

Wraith9
12-09-2005, 12:22 AM
leech seed and lefties good idea,
ice beam good idea,
if scenario occurs char v hera, i wanna power up then faint hera and continue my way to glory.
i'm keeping rain dance for when i need to switch to zapdos.
screw HP. it's too fickle. besides, where am i gonna get another zapdos if my ivs are wrong?
but i might switch zapdos to my gardevoir:
sball
tbolt
psychic
calm mind

saved my ass countless no of times on mount battle.
*sniff* i'm a twit *sniff*

Ierdar
12-09-2005, 02:29 AM
Sword dance may take a little longer, but you'll take less damage in the long run. =P

Switch Shadowball on Gard for hypnosis or double team. It doesn't have much use for shadowball, ghost being phsyical.

Dragon_Seeker
12-09-2005, 02:53 AM
Donphan - Sturdy
@ Leftovers
~ Ancientpower
~ Earthquake
~ Rapid Spin / Counter
~ Roar

Salamence - Intimidate
@ Choice Band
~ Aerial Ace
~ Brick Break / Rock Slide
~ Earthquake
~ Flamethrower / Fire Blast

Or go with all Special, which is something like Dragon Claw, Hydro Pump, Fire Blast, Filler. The filler is usually Toxic or Brick Break. Or use DDmence; Dragon Dance, Earthquake, Aerial Ace, Flamethrower/Fire Blast/Brick Break.

Blastoise - Torrent
@ Leftovers
~ Mirror Coat
~ Surf
~ Ice Beam
~ Roar

Normally, I'd recommend Yawn/Haze, Rapid Spin, Surf, Ice Beam, but I doubt you want to retrain/breed. Then again, that set works way better than the modified version of yours I suggested, simply because too much does it better.

Venusaur - Overgrow
@ Leftovers
~ Sludge Bomb
~ Sleep Powder
~ Leech Seed
~ Synthesis

Also Special Venusaur; Hidden Power Fire/Electric, Razor Leaf, Leech Seed, Sleep Powder, but it's impossible to get ingame. Or use Razor Leaf somewhere in that set. Probably over Synthesis or Sludge Bomb.

Charizard - Blaze
@ Salac Berry
~ Belly Drum
~ Flamethrower
~ Earthquake / Substitute
~ Aerial Ace / Substitute

Or use Swords Dance, Fire Blast/Flamethrower, Earthquake, Aerial Ace or Dragon Claw, Flamethrower/Fire Blast, Sunny Day, Filler (probably Toxic or Overheat).

Gardevoir - Trace
@ Leftovers
~ Calm Mind
~ Thunderbolt
~ Psychic
~ Will-O-Wisp / Reflect / Substitute / Taunt / Ice Punch / Rest / Destiny Bond

Gardy is hot, but 'Zam is sexier than Lord Voldemort himself thanks to Encore. Gardy's still cool though. Destiny Bond is sweet. I think Will-O-Wisp works better though.

Wraith9
12-10-2005, 12:32 AM
those are great suggestions, but i'm not allowed more than one same hold item on a poke in colosseum. I'm gonna go for ice punch on a bold or modest gardie.:surp:
wait... it can be bred, right? i don't have emerald.

Ierdar
12-10-2005, 01:47 AM
those are great suggestions, but i'm not allowed more than one same hold item on a poke in colosseum. I'm gonna go for ice punch on a bold or modest gardie.:surp:
wait... it can be bred, right? i don't have emerald.
Breeding has been around since GSC days. =P Yes, you can breed.

Wraith9
12-10-2005, 01:58 AM
Breeding has been around since GSC days. =P Yes, you can breed.
ICE PUNCH dammit, i meant breed ice punch on to ralts, rather than having to go buy emerald, and tutor the dang move to gardie.:dazed:

Dragon_Seeker
12-10-2005, 02:35 PM
ICE PUNCH dammit, i meant breed ice punch on to ralts, rather than having to go buy emerald, and tutor the dang move to gardie.:dazed:

Looks like you're stuck with Thunderbolt in that case.

Wraith9
12-10-2005, 08:34 PM
That's alright, I bred will o wisp on to a ralts and I'm gonna transfer it to firered,
(although DBond would be better in case Tranitar rears its ugly head.):cool:

Dragon_Seeker
12-10-2005, 09:50 PM
That's alright, I bred will o wisp on to a ralts and I'm gonna transfer it to firered,
(although DBond would be better in case Tranitar rears its ugly head.):cool:

Umm, okay. Sure... but Gardy is quicker than TTar and can Wisp him long before TTar lands an Earthquake/Rock Slide, not to mention that you have Donphan and Blastoise...

Wraith9
12-10-2005, 10:07 PM
I suppose. :rolleyes:
But what if they fainted and I was down to my last poke? Oh, the horror. :eek:

Dragon_Seeker
12-11-2005, 03:31 AM
I suppose. :rolleyes:
But what if they fainted and I was down to my last poke? Oh, the horror. :eek:

I'm pretty sure if you were down to your last pokemon you'd be dead anyways.