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DelcattyGirl92
02-10-2006, 07:51 PM
Are the humans of this murdered Earth truly as dominant and smart as we think we are?

My opinion....

No frickin' way are we as dominant as we think we are.

Clutch
02-10-2006, 07:57 PM
Are the humans of this murdered Earth truly as dominant and smart as we think we are?

My opinion....

No frickin' way are we as dominant as we think we are.

Hmm, if you added a bit more detail, this could be in the Other Disscusion thread :]

Anyways, I'm not sure if we can be due to other animals being able to kill us and eat are flesh, etc... =p

Ierdar
02-10-2006, 07:58 PM
*looks around the world* Well, I don't see Tigers building things, Sharks teaching in schools, and Zebra fighting war. =P

Tamer San
02-10-2006, 08:01 PM
I 2nd that Ierdar. Yet, I recall Chimps using nukes in the last war between the man and the ape...yes...it was an interesting era...errr...movie I mean >_>

There is no subject to discuss in here at first place :P

miyoun
02-10-2006, 08:13 PM
Dolphins are smarter than us. (:

Pika57
02-10-2006, 08:13 PM
We're the dominant species in my oppinion... but were mostly(not entirely) greedy imbisiles...

Tamer San
02-10-2006, 08:15 PM
Dolphins are smarter than us. (:

Well, I don't see Dolphins doing researches on human beings imprisioning them in underwater cages :wink: :rolleyes:

miyoun
02-10-2006, 08:17 PM
Well, I don't see Dolphins doing researches on human beings imprisioning them in underwater cages :wink: :rolleyes:

They need thumbs for that. Which they don't have. But yes, they are smarter than us.

Pika57
02-10-2006, 08:20 PM
They need thumbs for that. Which they don't have. But yes, they are smarter than us.
How so? Really I know they're smart, but I don't see how they're smarter than us.

Daniella Defines Divinity
02-10-2006, 08:21 PM
Are the humans of this murdered Earth truly as dominant and smart as we think we are?

My opinion....

No frickin' way are we as dominant as we think we are.
Why?

You can't just make a statement like that and not back it up >.<

IT
02-10-2006, 08:22 PM
Well, they just recently found another species of a Homo Sapiens-like creatures in Indonesia. They are just like...well...hobbits. Small humans.

Tamer San
02-10-2006, 08:25 PM
You are kidding IT, right? :\

DaRkUmBrEoN
02-10-2006, 08:26 PM
He's right about them finding something in the area of Indonesia.

Pika57
02-10-2006, 08:27 PM
You are kidding IT, right? :\
No... don't worry they died a LONG time ago. But basically they were humans that had evolved to be smaller. They lived in what was refered to as a perfect ecosytem, and whenever that happens the follwing laws of evolution go into effect.

Anything bigger than a rabbit gets smaller.

Anything smaller than a rabbit gets bigger.

Anything that is a rabbit is screwed.

TDD91
02-10-2006, 08:30 PM
WEll America IS being run by some form of Chimp at the moment, so i'd propose that we are not the dominant species, but we are simply minions of the Three Toed Sloth.

Red.Falcon
02-10-2006, 09:41 PM
I don't know....If you check books, you will figure out that there are more insects than any other species on Earth. There are acually more insects (species and population) than every other living being on Earth put together. If they had thumbs, and weren't as big as 1/10 our size, us humans would have some issues on dominance.

DaRkUmBrEoN
02-10-2006, 09:42 PM
Don't forget, some of them could survive a nuclear winter.

IT
02-10-2006, 09:42 PM
You are kidding IT, right? :\

If my post doesn't have any signs of sarcasm, happiness or smileys, then I'm not kidding.

Ali the Dark One
02-11-2006, 01:23 AM
This thing could be smarter than humans. I don't want any one to think I'm a wierdo creepazoid but I saw this thing hiking in Big Bear Mt.,CA. I could have gotten a good picture but all I had was my mom's old sucky camera :rolleyes: I'm surprised it worked at least I got it on camera If you think you know what it is can you PM me I scanned it to paint and cropped it so I load it to Imageshack

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/165/batthingphoto6is.th.png (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batthingphoto6is.png)

Hypocrisy is Fun
02-11-2006, 03:48 AM
Your kidding right? There isnt even a sky in the backround, the camera is supposed to be blurry so people get scared and think its real. This is no differnt then the bigfoot pictures, I know hes there, but any blurry picture is no proof, man you picture even looks like its CG.

Ali the Dark One
02-11-2006, 03:55 AM
:tired: Yes, I'm kidding; because every one knows that you can catch moving objects on camera and get a crystal clear shot, Aaaand that crappy cameras get every bit of detail in a photo

Hypocrisy is Fun
02-11-2006, 03:59 AM
Dont you think there would be senery? ANYTHING? Other than just this ONE colored CG "photo" I dont want to argue, and flam, but I know that cant be real.

Zenaku
02-12-2006, 03:15 AM
The pic looks like a type of fish, so it could possibly be in water.

Anyways, yes, we are the dominant species. A "dominant" species is defined by whether or not a species can dominate another, and regardless of our natural survival abilities, we have the abilities to kill pretty much anything and anyone, making us dominant.

Superiority, however, is a whole different issue. Due to research, it's believed Dolphins, for example, are more intelligent than us, making Dolphins of superior intelligence. To be honest, we're only truly different from them because we have hands. We humans are intelligent because we can pass on information. We use our hands to make pictures and images (even the Alphabet is nothing more than images we associate with sounds). Our "school systems" teach us how to interpret those pictures and images. If we didn't have hands, then we'd only be able to pass on information through talking, but if we had no hands, we couldn't make anything.

Eh, it's had for me to explain it more so I hope that makes a point.

Aside from intelligence, humans social structure is inferior to a lot of species. After all, we're the only species that kills out own for the fun of it, kills other species for anything other than food, etc. I heard once that if you take an ant to an ant colony on the other side of the world, it'll get to work and fit in as though it were a cousin, making ants social abilities superior to out own, at the very least.

But yeah, it seems the thread got dominance and superiority mixed up, from the context, but that might just be me.

Nasty Plasty
02-12-2006, 03:45 AM
We are indeed the dominant species. Everyday people wake up to go to work. They see a rabbit in the road. They could run it over or leave it be. They see a spider, they could squish it or take it outside. We see another human, we can murder them or let them live. No matter what we can cause thousands of creatures to die.

Hypocrisy is Fun
02-12-2006, 03:53 AM
The pic looks like a type of fish, so it could possibly be in water.
He said while hiking, another reason I have to call it fake =P

On Earth, we must be the dominate species , one, because animals havent been shooting any nuclear bombs and starting wars, and also because we are the most advanced technology wise. Though we may not the first, we are the most dominate.

Rizaado
02-12-2006, 04:26 AM
This thing could be smarter than humans. I don't want any one to think I'm a wierdo creepazoid but I saw this thing hiking in Big Bear Mt.,CA. I could have gotten a good picture but all I had was my mom's old sucky camera :rolleyes: I'm surprised it worked at least I got it on camera If you think you know what it is can you PM me I scanned it to paint and cropped it so I load it to Imageshack

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/165/batthingphoto6is.th.png (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=batthingphoto6is.png)
lol
That's not a real species, actually I think its a edited shadow the hegdehog flying alien

P.S. Yes we are the dominate species and that will never change

Hypocrisy is Fun
02-12-2006, 04:59 AM
P.S. Yes we are the dominate species and that will never change
*Contacts alien friends and laughs maniacally*

Seriosuly though, I do think It will have to change one day, when other life form visits Earth, hostile or not. Tommorow or millions of years, it will have to happen one day..

Ironshell Blastoise
02-12-2006, 02:51 PM
I'm reading this thread, and the common misconception that all of you have is "they don't do what we do, so we are smarter" mindframe.

We're so egocentric that we compare intelligences of others to our own. What we need to look for is intelligences outside of our own, intelligences that are equal or superior to ours, only expressed in different manners.

Though, I have to agree, that on this planet, yes, we are the dominant species, because we have effected the planet more in our thousands of years than any other species did in millions of years. And we basically run the food chain. We have the power to shut down everything in the world.

As for the universe, I highly doubt we are the most intelligent beings, or the most powerful.

SideStep
02-12-2006, 03:57 PM
It's not that they don't do what we do, it's that they can'tdo what we do. Dolphins can't really research on nuclear energy(not that it'd be of any use to them) and cows can't grow grass on their own. We're capable of doing so much that they can't. Dolphins can swim, but we can too. Cheetahs can run, but we can too. Animals usually specialise in only one thing and we humans are capable of doing many things. We're more versatile because of our intelligence.

Seriosuly though, I do think It will have to change one day, when other life form visits Earth, hostile or not. Tommorow or millions of years, it will have to happen one day..
They have to build a very, very strong spacecraft to reach our planet. It'd need a shitload of fuel, for your information. They have to be light years ahead of us to achieve that. And if they ain't, well, we'd have found them before they found us.

I think some of you watch too many science-fiction stories :goofy:

Sudo
02-12-2006, 04:06 PM
I'd say we are the most dominant.

Our species has caused more destruction to eachother and to the earth than most others put together.

We instinctively destroy anything that poses a threat to us, like most species. The trouble is, we have the ability to do it on a much larger scale.

Ironshell Blastoise
02-12-2006, 04:15 PM
What I'm saying is that we don't give credit for the intelligence of animals we don't pay any attention to. Since they can't do a certain something, we write off their intelligence as "inferior" and while yes, in the grand scheme of things, they are "inferior" in intellect, doesn't mean we are the superior beings. Dolphins, as stated, are intelligent creatures, and I honestly would rather be a dolphin, as they haven't used their intelligence to destroy any part of the environment, or cause global conflicts in the name of "racial superiority" or some higher being.

Zenaku
02-12-2006, 07:02 PM
Haha. Somehow, you put what I wanted to say into much shorter posts, Khold. We judge other species intelligence our own unjustfully. Truthfully, our ability to create things could be counted as a "skill". Just because other animals don't have the "skill" (means) to make or manipulate objects doesn't mean their intellectual potential is smaller. Alas, the existence of religion and the belief of a higher being make people ignorant to the fact that we are inferior in many aspects of life.

Hm... This seems to be turning into a debate, so for the time being I'll move it to the Other Discussion. If any mods disagree, feel free to move it back.

*Moved

Hypocrisy is Fun
02-12-2006, 08:32 PM
I think some of you watch too many science-fiction stories :goofy:
Notice the words "someday."

Im tried of you contridicting me, and just because I have opinions dose not give you the right to put me down every time.

Frost Wolf
02-12-2006, 08:41 PM
Notice the words "someday."

Im tried of you contridicting me, and just because I have opinions dose not give you the right to put me down every time.


1)I dont see the word "someday" anywhere,
2)that pic of that thing could of been flying, and since the background is an orangy color, it probably was around sunset.
3)and im unsure that were the dominant species

Hypocrisy is Fun
02-12-2006, 09:59 PM
*Contacts alien friends and laughs maniacally*

Seriosuly though, I do think It will have to change one day, when other life form visits Earth, hostile or not. Tommorow or millions of years, it will have to happen one day..
Meh I was close =P

But theres plenty of things you can notice that make it seem unreal. Like the way its one color, or how the blurry pic can have such a perfecly formed being.

Plus with a wing span that big theres no chance you could be so close without getting blow away.

Kenny_C.002
02-13-2006, 05:56 AM
Dominant species? US? Well I'll assume dominant species as the largest number of individuals within the earth, and therefore promptly show that I can create ~3 million E coli in less than a week. :P

SideStep
02-15-2006, 08:15 AM
What I'm saying is that we don't give credit for the intelligence of animals we don't pay any attention to. Since they can't do a certain something, we write off their intelligence as "inferior" and while yes, in the grand scheme of things, they are "inferior" in intellect, doesn't mean we are the superior beings. Dolphins, as stated, are intelligent creatures, and I honestly would rather be a dolphin, as they haven't used their intelligence to destroy any part of the environment, or cause global conflicts in the name of "racial superiority" or some higher being.
In this context, 'dominant' would mean our advantage over them in intelligence. What do we not give them credit for? I watch Animal Planet every now and then, they know how to hunt for preys stealthily and sniff for blood, that doesn't make them anymore intelligent than us. We CREATE machinery that help us do these things, so we don't have to do it with so much effort.

If the animals were given a chance, they'd probably wanting to be humans, provided their very limited intelligence allows them to think and choose. The grass is always greener on the other side.

Notice the words "someday."

Im tried of you contridicting me, and just because I have opinions dose not give you the right to put me down every time.
...wait, what? I wasn't pointing to you directly, I was making a general statement.

Kenny_C.002
02-15-2006, 12:21 PM
Quite frankly we don't know if they can think or not. That's still highly debatable. For example, we think monkeys lack the ability to think spatially, and then one of the lab monkeys decided to combine symbols that suggests they do. :-/

bleep
02-21-2006, 01:04 AM
Are the humans of this murdered Earth truly as dominant and smart as we think we are?

My opinion....

No frickin' way are we as dominant as we think we are.
i believe the second part of your statement.
no way in hell we're as smart as we think. what, how far have we gone in our own stupid solar system, like pluto? so we've never gone past pluto. ok because that clearly takes supergeniuses =\

i think we're as dominant as we think we are... on earth. i mean the chances that we're alone in this universe is like on in a few trillion (and i'm being literal... theres a LLLOOOOOTTTTT of planets out there!). and the chances that theres no "more advanced" society out there is also pretty slim also, so yeah

squirtle
02-27-2006, 06:11 PM
id say we are the most dominant species because we are the only ones stepping up to the plate. there may be other species that are capable of be the most dominate, but they arent doing anything now to make themselves more dominate than humans. so at the point we have the world champion belt in dominance.

Kenny_C.002
02-27-2006, 08:35 PM
id say we are the most dominant species because we are the only ones stepping up to the plate. there may be other species that are capable of be the most dominate, but they arent doing anything now to make themselves more dominate than humans. so at the point we have the world champion belt in dominance.
And the little cytes inside your head are saying the same thing. lol

Lord Mullet
03-03-2006, 11:35 PM
*agrees with Kenny*
I'd always thought of dominant = most successful at reproducing and surviving, which would make any one of the numerous species of bacteria dominant.

Frost Wolf
03-03-2006, 11:39 PM
i hope so, if not what could possibly be better then us humans, theyd have to be like....perfect.......thing...ies