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pokeplayer66
06-06-2006, 10:48 PM
Heracross/Scizor (heracross for now but if scizor is better plz put a moveset)
@quick claw/focus band
megahorn
endure
reversal
counter/EQ/aerial ace/other

Kyogre
@mystic water/nevermeltice
water spout
surf
ice beam
thunder

Mewtwo
@nothing yet
psychic
thunderbolt
hyper beam/ice beam
recover/calm mind (i like recover better)


Blissey
@leftovers (DUH)
seismic toss
counter
softboiled
SOMETHING


and 2 other pokes :P

pokeplayer66
06-06-2006, 10:49 PM
and for the 2 others im thinking miltoc/blasoise/suicine and mirror coat and for the last maybe jynx or salamnce or something thats 1337

celebi
06-06-2006, 11:00 PM
first don't double post just edit your first post.
I believe that scizor is better as it is my fav. 2. generation pokemon:p
scizor as it is a steel type it is hard to made damadge on:
steel wing
silver wind
toxic
double team

You need a fire pokemon to be honest.If you will use kygore which is a legendary that's why you won't be able to have fun through out the game you won't need blastoise or milotic.But just to keep in mind that Milotic has a little higher max stats than blastoise.If you will take salamence my moveset for it is:

Dragon claw
earthquake
double-edge
fly

but this team lack speacial pokemon.(fire,grass,rock....)

pokeplayer66
06-06-2006, 11:01 PM
Scizor is super weak against fire :P


maybe i could go

heracross
miltoic
mewtwo
blissey
camerupt (since i cant use kyogre i guess i cant use groudon :P)
jolteon

maybe instead of jolteon i could use something like ludicolo?

celebi
06-06-2006, 11:10 PM
Scizor is super weak against fire :P


maybe i could go

heracross
miltoic
mewtwo
blissey
camerupt (since i cant use kyogre i guess i cant use groudon :P)
jolteon

maybe instead of jolteon i could use something like ludicolo?

don't go with jolteon.Instead teach thunderbolt to Mewtwo.Camerupt is not a strong pokemon.Can't you get a charizard or a blaziken if you can get a blastoise.It's also great to have a arcanine or a ninetales.Scizor is weak against fire yes.But think of it resistances.No one ask you to use it against fire type.Use your kygore or milotic against fire.Ludicolo is a cool pokemon your opponent needs a flying type to defeat a good trained one.

absol2005
06-06-2006, 11:27 PM
Scizor is super weak against fire :P

But it's its only weakness. ;)

pokeplayer66
06-06-2006, 11:28 PM
what is heracrosses weakness

celebi
06-06-2006, 11:31 PM
Flying fire psychic

Tory vs Meaty II
06-06-2006, 11:34 PM
Heracross
@quick claw/focus band
Megahorn
Endure
Aerial Ace
Counter/Earthquake

Kyogre@Leftovers
Calm Mind
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunder

Mewtwo@Leftovers/Lum Berry
Psychic
thunderbolt/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball
Recover

Blissey@Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Counter
Softboiled
Some long "A" word (help cure pokemon when switch out.)

Siccor@Leftovers
Aerial Ace
Sword Dance
Steel Wing
Agility

Crobat@Choice Band
Aerial Ace
Steel Wing
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb

pokeplayer66
06-06-2006, 11:34 PM
also, heracross (i think) is stonger than scizor if scizor doesnt have swords dance...it can OHKO a mewtwo or a blissey (blissey=reversal @ 1HP---mewtwo=megahorn)

Tory vs Meaty II
06-06-2006, 11:37 PM
also, heracross (i think) is stonger than scizor if scizor doesnt have swords dance...it can OHKO a mewtwo or a blissey (blissey=reversal @ 1HP---mewtwo=megahorn)
No. Siccor is better to use. It can learn Sword Dance.

celebi
06-06-2006, 11:38 PM
I just love scizor.Trust me you will like it more than heracross.I also love it when you use toxic and double team combo:wink:

pokeplayer66
06-06-2006, 11:48 PM
heracross can learn swords dance

Snuggles
06-06-2006, 11:52 PM
how we get a pokemon
:redface: :redface: :redface: :redface: :cool:

Meno
06-07-2006, 12:00 AM
how we get a pokemon
:redface: :redface: :redface: :redface: :cool:
OMG SPAM!!!
http://www.modernsurf.com/spam/spamanm.gif

Please, stay on topic, and don't spam.

Give Your Heracross the speed-increasing berry to hold, let Kyogre use Chesto-rest, Mewtwo should know Recover/Thunderbold/Icebeam/Psychic, Scizzor sucks balls, and replace The CB Crobat with a T-Tar with RockSlide/EQ/Return/BrickBreak.

(Those changes were made to Tory's post, BTW)

Tory vs Meaty II
06-07-2006, 12:05 AM
OMG SPAM!!!
http://www.modernsurf.com/spam/spamanm.gif

Please, stay on topic, and don't spam.

Give Your Heracross the speed-increasing berry to hold, let Kyogre use Chesto-rest, Mewtwo should know Recover/Thunderbold/Icebeam/Psychic, Scizzor sucks balls, and replace The CB Crobat with a T-Tar with RockSlide/EQ/Return/BrickBreak.

(Those changes were made to Tory's post, BTW)
That spam image is funny.
Do I need any changes to my moveset changes? I'm trying to find a perfect nature for them.

Meno
06-07-2006, 12:11 AM
Heracross
@Liechi Berry
Megahorn
Endure
EQ
Reversal

Kyogre@Chesto
Rest
Surf
Ice Beam
Thunder

Mewtwo@Leftovers
Psychic
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Recover

Blissey@Leftovers
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Softboiled
Aromatherapy

NO SCIZZOR!!!

T-Tar@Choice Band
EQ
RockSlide
Return
BrickBreak


There! I broke it down for 'ya!

celebi
06-07-2006, 07:49 AM
OMG SPAM!!!
Scizzor sucks balls, and replace The CB Crobat with a T-Tar with RockSlide/EQ/Return/BrickBreak.

(Those changes were made to Tory's post, BTW)

No one can humailate a Scizor or an arcanine :crackup: .Now I'm angry.:smile: Why you people can't get that the crunch of t-tar deals more damage than return as it is a dark pokemon:rolleyes:

Fossil Fusion
06-07-2006, 08:03 AM
There! I broke it down for 'ya!
T-tar with Blissey o_o wouldn't that waste Blissey's recovery of Leftovers because of sandstorm.

celebi
06-07-2006, 12:03 PM
It surely does.But T-tar does it for many pokemon and if you use blissey before T-tar there would be no problem.After all blissey has softboiled.

charmeleonblaze
06-07-2006, 03:36 PM
Heracross is super effective on Scizor though.

pokeplayer66
06-08-2006, 11:51 PM
maybe on chesto rest, and im giving heracross quick claw


and celibi, if i can teach my mewtwo thunderbolt instead of having a electric pkmn then couldnt i teach blissey flamerthrower instead of having a fire pkmn?

pokeplayer66
06-08-2006, 11:53 PM
thanks meno, but hell no on ttar i hate him for some reason i beat him w/ surf 1hit every time and ive even beat him w/ thunderbolts lol

and scizor,arcanine,ttar they all suck in my book ;)

Meno
06-09-2006, 01:05 AM
1) Please, don't double-post. Just click "edit" for adding information!
2) Quick Claw is a pathetic excuse of an item. It rarely kicks in, while your Liechi Berry will up your speed without fail, so you get to have a quickclaw effect every time!
3) If you hate TTar so much, use Salemence with the same set, but switch BrickBreak for AerialAce

Tory vs Meaty II
06-09-2006, 05:02 AM
So many people double/triple/quduple/quindiple/questiple/triqundrible/ post.:ermm:

celebi
06-09-2006, 07:22 AM
maybe on chesto rest, and im giving heracross quick claw
and celibi, if i can teach my mewtwo thunderbolt instead of having a electric pkmn then couldnt i teach blissey flamerthrower instead of having a fire pkmn? arcanie,scizor-ttar they all suck in my book.

OMG

do you know the spc attack of a blissey.It has no affect with flame thrower.Quick claw is a wretched item.It makes no work.And about Arcanie,scizor,ttar.You suck in their book too so don't worry.No harsh feelings at all pal. :smile:

pokeplayer66
06-09-2006, 01:32 PM
im glad where still buds :wink:



:P i hate salamence too i beat it to many times in one hit ice beam thanks to my kyogre holding QUICK CLAW

celebi
06-09-2006, 04:13 PM
You Don't need a quick claw for that :rolleyes: Salamence can't take down a Kygore.

whitedragon8903
06-09-2006, 04:20 PM
You Don't need a quick claw for that :rolleyes: Salamence can't take down a Kygore.

Ideed. Kyorge > Salamence

pokeplayer66
06-09-2006, 04:40 PM
what is dragon strong against

celebi
06-09-2006, 04:52 PM
dragon>dragon>dragon....... :rolleyes:

pokeplayer66
06-09-2006, 04:54 PM
ghost>ghost :O

Meno
06-09-2006, 08:47 PM
But, there are many others that are resistant to themselves, like Water, fire, ice, ellectric, steel, etc.

Tory vs Meaty II
06-09-2006, 09:09 PM
Dragonite gets affected by ice realy bad, because of Dragon/Flying. Icy Wind from a Casform could take down a Dragonite, its pretty stupid to explain, why?:silenced:

Meno
06-10-2006, 01:15 AM
Dragonite gets affected by ice realy bad, because of Dragon/Flying. Icy Wind from a Casform could take down a Dragonite, its pretty stupid to explain, why?:silenced:
Double weaknesses are not rare. We have Dragonite, Salemence, and Flygon for Ice, Swampert and Whiscash for Grass, Ho-Oh and Moltres for Rock, Gyarados for electricity, and Golem with Rhydon for grass AND water. And, there are probably others I missed.

Tory vs Meaty II
06-10-2006, 01:40 AM
Double weaknesses are not rare. We have Dragonite, Salemence, and Flygon for Ice, Swampert and Whiscash for Grass, Ho-Oh and Moltres for Rock, Gyarados for electricity, and Golem with Rhydon for grass AND water. And, there are probably others I missed.
Yea, I guess thats true, the Dragon get affected by ice realy bad.