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pokeplayer66
07-30-2006, 04:41 PM
Wobbuffet (M) @ Leftovers ** Can't touch this
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Destiny Bond
- Encore
- Mirror Coat

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** taoC rorriM
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 126 Spd / 126 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
- Recover
- Surf

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry ** Critical Killer
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Alakazam (M) @ Lum Berry ** Abra Kadabra!
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunderpunch

Zangoose (M) @ Salac Berry ** Duck Duck Goose
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Flail
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance

Smeargle (M) @ Focus Band ** Picasso
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 6 HP / 126 Def / 252 Spd / 126 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Mean Look
- Mind Reader
- Sheer Cold
- Spore


I haven't decided between Kyogre or Wobbefut yet but since I'm currently using Wobbefut thats who I'll have rated.

celebi
07-30-2006, 06:30 PM
Wobbuffet (M) @ Leftovers ** Can't touch this
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Destiny Bond
- Encore
- Mirror Coat

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** taoC rorriM
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 126 Spd / 126 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
- Recover
- Surf

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry ** Critical Killer
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Alakazam (M) @ Lum Berry ** Abra Kadabra!
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunderpunch

Zangoose (M) @ Salac Berry ** Duck Duck Goose
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Flail
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance

Smeargle (M) @ Focus Band ** Picasso
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 6 HP / 126 Def / 252 Spd / 126 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Mean Look
- Mind Reader
- Sheer Cold
- Spore


I haven't decided between Kyogre or Wobbefut yet but since I'm currently using Wobbefut thats who I'll have rated.

you need someone to create status problem otherwise it will be unable to use sword dance.Also a calm mind can rock on Alakazm.

2fatprimape
07-30-2006, 06:47 PM
smeargle is useless and gengar is better than alakazam:sleepy:

celebi
07-30-2006, 06:48 PM
smeargle is useless and gengar is better than alakazam:sleepy:

No no gengar and Ala is totally different gengar is a destiny bonder usually.But for me Gardevoir is better than Ala as it learns thunderbolt.Smeargle is damn usefull but annoying and cheap.

Maddie Carr
07-30-2006, 07:07 PM
Alakazam is good but has low Defence, that why every normal attack kills it. Gardevoir has better stats.

Echo
07-30-2006, 08:41 PM
Wobbuffet (M) @ Leftovers ** Can't touch this
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Destiny Bond
- Encore
- Mirror Coat

Banned from standard play.

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** taoC rorriM
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 126 Spd / 126 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
- Recover
- Surf

Needs more HP and less Spd. Also, put Hypnosis over Mirror Coat.

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry ** Critical Killer
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Needs only 264 Speed, because of Salac.

Alakazam (M) @ Lum Berry ** Abra Kadabra!
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunderpunch

Not good with Zam, but put Cm over one of the punches and maybe Recover as well. Encore, Trick w/ Choice Band and Substitute are also viable options.

Zangoose (M) @ Salac Berry ** Duck Duck Goose
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Flail
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance

You don't need two Flail/Reversalers in the same team. Replace this with a Special wall as Milotic can take the Physical hits. Snorlax, Regice, Blissey recommended.

Smeargle (M) @ Focus Band ** Picasso
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 6 HP / 126 Def / 252 Spd / 126 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Mean Look
- Mind Reader
- Sheer Cold
- Spore

People are going to ***** at you because of the hax item and OHKO move. Suggesting that you use a set with Sub, BD, BP and something cool as the last move.

I haven't decided between Kyogre or Wobbefut yet but since I'm currently using Wobbefut thats who I'll have rated.

Don't use Kyogre or Wobbuffet in standard play. They belong in the uber section.

I can see Raikou causing problems as well as Zapdos. You also have no Normal resists, so Snorlax, Slaking and friends will hurt you.

flashfox
07-30-2006, 11:32 PM
well, your team does get killed by mine (both versions) right now, and yeah, you do need a special wall.

Meno
07-31-2006, 01:36 AM
Hehe, I like it. BUT...

Goose needs +speed nature

I'd suggest Redoing you Zam in:

CM
Ice Pinch
Psychic
Recover

And, I really do not enjoy the Smeargle. I mean it's good and all (back when I used to have NB, I played one just like that for a while), but then your opponent will just send out something with high speed (Mence, Dodrio, etc.), fail your Focus Band, and screw you over in one shot. If you insist on a Smeargle, I suggest the SpecialPasser:

Smeargle @ Focus Band
EV: Sped/Balanced DEF's
Nature: + Speed - ATK
Signal Beam
BP
Spore
Sub

In fact, this is the only poke in the game that actually passes Signal Beam, since Volbeat can't learn BP.

Echo
07-31-2006, 12:02 PM
And, I really do not enjoy the Smeargle. I mean it's good and all (back when I used to have NB, I played one just like that for a while), but then your opponent will just send out something with high speed (Mence, Dodrio, etc.), fail your Focus Band, and screw you over in one shot. If you insist on a Smeargle, I suggest the SpecialPasser:

Smeargle @ Focus Band
EV: Sped/Balanced DEF's
Nature: + Speed - ATK
Signal Beam
BP
Spore
Sub

In fact, this is the only poke in the game that actually passes Signal Beam, since Volbeat can't learn BP.

Incorrect; Volbeat can learn Baton Pass and the move you might want to pass is Tail Glow, not Signal Beam.

regirock1123
08-01-2006, 02:43 PM
Wobbuffet (M) @ Leftovers ** Can't touch this
Trait: Shadow Tag
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Counter
- Destiny Bond
- Encore
- Mirror Coat

Milotic (M) @ Leftovers ** taoC rorriM
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Def / 126 Spd / 126 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Mirror Coat
- Recover
- Surf

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry ** Critical Killer
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Alakazam (M) @ Lum Berry ** Abra Kadabra!
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Thunderpunch

Zangoose (M) @ Salac Berry ** Duck Duck Goose
Trait: Immunity
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Endure
- Flail
- Shadow Ball
- Swords Dance

Smeargle (M) @ Focus Band ** Picasso
Trait: Own Tempo
EVs: 6 HP / 126 Def / 252 Spd / 126 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Mean Look
- Mind Reader
- Sheer Cold
- Spore


I haven't decided between Kyogre or Wobbefut yet but since I'm currently using Wobbefut thats who I'll have rated.

why do you hate hp every time its always 6 hp ev's and thats just 1 extra point

pokeplayer66
08-01-2006, 10:28 PM
slaking is my best friend in the universe


ok zangoose does this endure swords dance endure swords dance then flails stuff to death

hypnosios is dumb, did you forget about sleep clause? smearlges screwed if its already used up