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flashfox
07-30-2006, 11:36 PM
Kyogre @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunder
- Water Spout

Jolteon (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder
- Thunder Wave

Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 54 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Kingdra (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 246 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 1 SAtk / 1 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Mach Punch
- Spore


I'm pretty sure i manly need help with ludi.

T r I p L e x
07-31-2006, 02:19 AM
if u wnt ludicolo to be in and out quickly i think u should teach baton pass to it and take away seismic toss just so u could use rain dance then send out kingdra and own but i dunno w/e u wnt to do

flashfox
07-31-2006, 03:42 AM
hmm, that would be a nice insurance policy.. but attacks would be nice. >.>

Maddie Carr
07-31-2006, 08:58 AM
Kyogre @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunder
- Surf

Jolteon (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt
- Thunder Wave

Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 54 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Surf
- Toxic

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Kingdra (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 246 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Dragonbreath
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 1 SAtk / 1 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Mach Punch
- Spore


With Thunderbolt you have more PP and it doesn't fail.

Echo
07-31-2006, 11:53 AM
RukariosGirlfriend, Thunder has 100% accuracy in Rain, so Thunder is a good option.

Kyogre isn't really allowed in standard play, so prepare to hear people complain about it. Also, Calm Mind over Rest on it.

On Jolteon, put Baton Pass over Thunder Wave since you can then pass Subs to something like Heracross or Breloom. Also, Max Spd Jolteon is a big waste of EVs, just make sure it outruns Dugtrio, so Jolteon still has to be Timid natured.

Ludicolo is fine, I suppose.

Needs only 264 Spd. Also, Adamant nature.

Kingdra seems fine as well, maybe Toxic over Substitute to make sure Blissey/Celebi can't stay for ever on you.

Replace Breloom with Dugtrio, because you've got loads of Special sweepers who get walled by Blissey.

flashfox
07-31-2006, 03:32 PM
thanks for the help

1. I suck with dugtrio. No battle experence, don't know how to use him, don't know how to build him
2. What should jolt's ev's be put in then?
3. Oh god. I didn't nature my Hera? And can i put in more speed, to beat other heras?
4. Maybe I should nature my kingdra >.> And I sub for pet, but I see the reasoning for toxic.
5. Why Calm. I'm willing to change, if i know how to use it. I can't see the reason. And in that case, my hold item should change too. But what should it be then?

Ironshell Blastoise
07-31-2006, 06:56 PM
lol I'm wondering why the hell you aren't using more ubers. Kyogre already tips the scale to your favor, might as well make it an uber caliber team instead of a standard metagame team with one uber.

Kyogre @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunder
- Water Spout

Jolteon (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder
- Thunder Wave

Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 54 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Kingdra (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 246 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 1 SAtk / 1 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Mach Punch
- Spore


I'm pretty sure i manly need help with ludi.

flashfox
07-31-2006, 07:49 PM
I have absoulutely no idea how to play ubers.

Maybe some tips, please?

Ironshell Blastoise
07-31-2006, 08:00 PM
Maybe you should play it for a bit against people, and get a feel for it instead of asking for help. You're not going to fully understand the uber metagame by just having it explained, you have to play in it =\

Lordofgames
08-01-2006, 01:49 AM
Uber metagame is the best metagame for Pokemon. Needs loads of skill and prediction. Probably the hardest to play after GSC.

regirock1123
08-01-2006, 02:27 PM
Kyogre @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunder
- Water Spout

Jolteon (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder
- Thunder Wave

Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 54 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Kingdra (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 246 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 1 SAtk / 1 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Mach Punch
- Spore


I'm pretty sure i manly need help with ludi.


i dont really think you need rain dance on ludicolo because kyogre has limitless rain dance

regirock1123
08-01-2006, 02:31 PM
whys gsc the hardest i own 2 of the 3

flashfox
08-01-2006, 03:11 PM
I need Rain Dance on ludi in cause of Groudon and Tyranitar

Hmm. Well, Uber metagame does sound fun, and I should try playing it in, but I need to know the rules at least. >.>

I hope Uber metagame allows Double Team and Hax items, since I'm excepting a flood of that for Diamond/Pearl

Ironshell Blastoise
08-01-2006, 04:36 PM
whys gsc the hardest i own 2 of the 3

The GSC metagame is more defensively oriented, and therefore, battles tend to last 40+ turns. I had a match that lasted over 300, god that took FOREVER.

Lord Voldemort
08-04-2006, 03:11 AM
Kyogre @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- rest
- Thunder
- calm mind

Jolteon (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder
- Thunder Wave

Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 54 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Kingdra (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 246 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 1 SAtk / 1 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- leech seed
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Mach Punch
- Spore


I'm pretty sure i manly need help with ludi.
hope i helped:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

hsb39
08-04-2006, 11:28 AM
Kyogre @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunder
- Water SpoutYour choice between this and Surf, you want this move there, you have this move there.

Jolteon (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- ThunderWhoever said Bolt, Rain Dance is up! Flash knows what he's thinking here.
- Thunder Wave

Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 54 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Rain DanceNot needed, Kyogre should have already gone out, Dive can be good for the waste of move.
- Seismic Toss
- Toxic

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Kingdra (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 246 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 1 SAtk / 1 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Mach Punch
- Spore


I'm pretty sure i manly need help with ludi.


Good, very good.

flashfox
08-04-2006, 05:01 PM
Thank you very much. I was thinking of rain dance in case of T-tar?

Ture pokemon master
08-04-2006, 08:26 PM
i think it is a good party

hsb39
08-05-2006, 03:06 AM
Thank you very much. I was thinking of rain dance in case of T-tar?
Good point, I wouldn't, but I am a very rare species of forum people, I let most things to the persons opinion, NEVER battle with a team that you are not comfortable with, so let things to your own opinion and if someone tells you otherwise, reject the idea!

pokeplayer66
08-07-2006, 03:22 PM
Kyogre @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Drizzle
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Rest
- Thunder
- Water Spout

Jolteon (F) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunder
- Thunder Wave

Ludicolo (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Rain Dish
EVs: 204 HP / 54 Def / 252 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Leech Seed
- Rain Dance
- Protect
- Toxic

Heracross (M) @ Salac Berry
Trait: Swarm
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Earthquake
- Endure
- Megahorn
- Reversal

Kingdra (M) @ Petaya Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 246 HP / 252 SAtk / 12 SDef
Hardy Nature (Neutral)
- Toxic
- Ice Beam
- Substitute
- Surf

Breloom (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Effect Spore
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 1 SAtk / 1 SDef
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Focus Punch
- Hidden Power [Ghost]/Leech Seed/Bulk Up
- Mach Punch/Sub
- Spore