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JohtoTrainer
08-02-2006, 03:02 AM
Ok, I feel like Curtis now, but the OHKO's have gotten way out of hand. Doing OHKO's just for money is totally cheap, and it will not be tolerated any longer.

You can OHKO for Evolutions, but not for money. That means, unless it's evolutionary you cannot battle someone in a 1v1 more than once, unless both Pokemon are different. BOTH Pokemon.

This auction was well run by Mike, but was overshadowed by the amount of money that was spent on EVERY Pokemon. Alot of the money was gained by OHKO's, and it was pretty unfair.

Sorry people, but some of you abused it.

MystiKal
08-02-2006, 03:05 AM
So will the money that has been made from those people be taken away?

Because it should!

Marth
08-02-2006, 03:07 AM
So will the money that has been made from those people be taken away?

Because it should!
No, it would be unfair. We can't instaurate a rule BEFORE we announce it, can we?
However, some people are suspecting of faking fights...that's a different story.

We Taste Pies...
08-02-2006, 03:07 AM
Ok, I feel like Curtis now, but the OHKO's have gotten way out of hand. Doing OHKO's just for money is totally cheap, and it will not be tolerated any longer.

You can OHKO for Evolutions, but not for money. That means, unless it's evolutionary you cannot battle someone in a 1v1 more than once, unless both Pokemon are different. BOTH Pokemon.

This auction was well run by Mike, but was overshadowed by the amount of money that was spent on EVERY Pokemon. Alot of the money was gained by OHKO's, and it was pretty unfair.

Sorry people, but some of you abused it.

I agree. Though I don't think it should be based on pokemon to classify it as OHKO's, but how many turns the battle is. Say everytime a ref refs a 1v1, they must post the amount of turns.

Marth
08-02-2006, 03:09 AM
Winning 20k in half a day is ridicolous. Suspects will be investigated and prosecuted.

We Taste Pies...
08-02-2006, 03:14 AM
Winning 20k in half a day is ridicolous. Suspects will be investigated and prosecuted.

You mean like how Husnain got 150k in one day?

Marth
08-02-2006, 03:15 AM
You mean like how Husnain got 150k in one day?
DarkChild also won a similar amount of money too.

We Taste Pies...
08-02-2006, 03:16 AM
DarkChild also won a similar amount of money too.

He was Husnains villianous cohort.

I've always wanted to say that, lol.

All-Star
08-02-2006, 03:53 AM
Actually, they all just did a lot of OHKOs.

I was talking to Husnain and DC.

Husnain got like... 40K off of... OHKOs I think.

Seawolf
08-02-2006, 04:27 AM
Actually, they all just did a lot of OHKOs.

I was talking to Husnain and DC.

Husnain got like... 40K off of... OHKOs I think.

Yeah, that's how he got the bloody Porygon I wanted. And do you see me doing OHKO battles to earn Pokemon like that? Hell no. God, I only battle in the URPG when someone is challenging my Gym, or if I'm challenging Gyms, or if I just want to have a good battle. I never do damn OHKO battles, and you know why? It's a horrible way to earn money. It's downright cheap.

If people are going to be like that, fine. I'm not going to stoop down to that level. I'm all for this ridiculous act to be banned or at least cut down to a certain degree.

Part of the reason why I left the auction was because of people who did just that. They were the ones who won all the stupid Pokemon. It was really distressing to see new (or newer) members get jack **** just because they don't earn their money in a cheap fashion.

Or I suppose I'll just keep wasting hours of my life away by writing stories for Pokemon that I want that I'll never be able to earn otherwise. Yes, I am complaining, but it's also unfair. Admit it.

The Elite Ygseto
08-02-2006, 04:50 AM
Well i must say I OHKO for evolution, but ever since then i've had good clean battles with my evolved pokemon.

I was kindof dissapointed that the auction went bad, i was looking forward to seeing alot of people get some new pokemon. Its always fun to get those, but if someone's cheap on the the way they earn it, then I say they get whats coming to them.

[Fair]
08-02-2006, 04:53 AM
OHKO's are still a problem? Why, back in my day, I thought we put an end to it. :razz:

We Taste Pies...
08-02-2006, 04:57 AM
Well i must say I OHKO for evolution, but ever since then i've had good clean battles with my evolved pokemon.

I was kindof dissapointed that the auction went bad, i was looking forward to seeing alot of people get some new pokemon. Its always fun to get those, but if someone's cheap on the the way they earn it, then I say they get whats coming to them.

If you'd like to point fingers, point them at husnain, Darkchild, and CB. CB reffed, Darkchild got the losing fees, Husanin got the wins. They both got lots of money.

Dratini
08-02-2006, 05:00 AM
No, it would be unfair. We can't instaurate a rule BEFORE we announce it, can we?
However, some people are suspecting of faking fights...that's a different story.

No, it's not. If I recall correctly, 1v1 Explosion battles DID get banned (by Jack) in the past, so that total of 80k made between 3 people has every right to be revoked.

In addition, at the old Proboards forum, I clearly recall the revoking of money from a 100x battle. It may have been because of suspected cheating, but how could you prove that unless someone admitted it? I think it got revoked due to "common sense". Of COURSE that's not allowed, did it even have to be said? Don't do 20-100x with already evolved Pokemon, period.

I think everyone who gained excessive money (maybe not people who gained 10-20k through battles like this, since nothing could even be bought at this auction for those prices, but 50k+) through 20-40x evolved Pokemon battles should have their auction Pokemon revoked and have what the next highest bidder was willing to bid, before the ones with 150k elevated the prices to unreasonable levels, win.

Honestly, auction prices have never been this high before, and slight inflation IS good as it shows activity is good... but this is just unreasonable, even by my standards. :/

EDIT: By my calculation, through battles done more than 20 times between the same two Pokemon three parties gained money. One gained 170k. The second gained 200k. The third gained... 230k. If it was only 20k I might let it go, but 200k? Is this amount of money gained through 20x's unreasonably unfair to others in the auction who wanted to win a Pokemon? You be the judge.

Espeon Rinage
08-02-2006, 06:45 AM
I agree with this sensible descission, Husnian getting 60K was just wrong, the ref was probibly payed hansomely too. I work for my money, sometimes I battle new trainers, but beleive me when I say, it's to help them learn the URPG and get experiance. Usually I like a good battle with Megumi [Which I wouldn't mind one now] or Rocketmeowth, beacause they are not just good battles, they are also indeed fair ones, which isn't shown too much.

DaRkUmBrEoN
08-02-2006, 07:26 AM
No, it would be unfair. We can't instaurate a rule BEFORE we announce it, can we? Yes, we can. It has a name, latin one, but it slipped my mind. Laws do these kind of things too.

Or I suppose I'll just keep wasting hours of my life away by writing stories for Pokemon that I want that I'll never be able to earn otherwise. Yes, I am complaining, but it's also unfair. Admit it. Do you see me doing anything else? I've yet to buy a second mart mon, but do you see me complaining? It's just one part of the whole URPG, and some folks are better than others. At least story writing is harder than calling out an attack for a mon, and watch how a ref calcs the damage. You should be glad, Meg, that you're good at story writing. I am.


As for the refs who reffed OHKO battles for husnain... I'm one of them, though I only did 10 battles for him, or at least at one day. Look at me ref book, and you'll see. I'm pretty fine with losing the money I earned through it. I've had plenty more legit reffing battles for others.

Loyal Arcanine
08-02-2006, 12:35 PM
Do you see me doing anything else? I've yet to buy a second mart mon, but do you see me complaining? It's just one part of the whole URPG, and some folks are better than others. At least story writing is harder than calling out an attack for a mon, and watch how a ref calcs the damage. You should be glad, Meg, that you're good at story writing. I am.
You should complain. This is sheer nonsense. The rule JT has posted in this thread, ohko's only for evolutions, stands. We're still discussing about those ohko's that were done before the auction yesterday, but rest assured, you haven't heard the last of that just yet.

Marth
08-02-2006, 12:55 PM
Of course, if those people are found cheating, they will be revoked alongside all the people implicated. If Husnain cheated, his co-horts will be punished too, not only him.
But tell me, how can you ref 20 OHKO's per minute?
This is Jack's decition, to take away the money or not. But the OHKO's are exclusively for training now.

DaRkUmBrEoN
08-02-2006, 12:57 PM
But tell me, how can you ref 20 OHKO's per minute?

Send out mons: 5 seconds.
Call out attacks 5 seconds.
Copy OHKO: 1 second.
Paste OHKO 20x: 40 seconds.

Giving that the flood gauge is cooperating.

Loyal Arcanine
08-02-2006, 01:06 PM
Send out mons: 5 seconds.
Call out attacks 5 seconds.
Copy OHKO: 1 second.
Paste OHKO 20x: 40 seconds.

Giving that the flood gauge is cooperating.
Did you actually call mons and attacks 20 times too? Because if not the battles are invalid already and we can delete them before talking with Jack.

DaRkUmBrEoN
08-02-2006, 01:08 PM
Did you actually call mons and attacks 20 times too? Because if not the battles are invalid already and we can delete them before talking with Jack.

I was actually giving a hypothetical example on Marth's question. You can do this, not it has been done by me. If I ref a couple of OHKO, I always ask the battlers to call out the attacks( not necessarily the mons, cause they're mostly the same, unless they evolve.)

I was just telling how to have 20 OHKO battles in under a minute.

Loyal Arcanine
08-02-2006, 01:13 PM
I was actually giving a hypothetical example on Marth's question. You can do this, not it has been done by me. If I ref a couple of OHKO, I always ask the battlers to call out the attacks( not necessarily the mons, cause they're mostly the same, unless they evolve.)

I was just telling how to have 20 OHKO battles in under a minute.
No, the point is, you can NOT do this. If people don't call their mons and attacks it's invalid, period.

Nasty Plasty
08-02-2006, 01:44 PM
StarQB Bledsoe11 (6:31:51 AM): and ko'd karp before it could attack
StarQB Bledsoe11 (6:31:54 AM): in theory
StarQB Bledsoe11 (6:32:00 AM): i would only have to send out karp
StarQB Bledsoe11 (6:32:11 AM): BB could just keep attacking in 1 turn
StarQB Bledsoe11 (6:32:17 AM): that would definatly help with time

Kyuubirawr121 (6:36:33 AM): 0.0
Kyuubirawr121 (6:36:37 AM): we got 14 this time
Kyuubirawr121 (6:36:45 AM): wait
Kyuubirawr121 (6:36:48 AM): in theory
Kyuubirawr121 (6:36:56 AM): a minute could be an exaggeration
Givemeadollar04 (6:37:00 AM): well its cuse i lagged
Kyuubirawr121 (6:37:28 AM): right
Kyuubirawr121 (6:37:39 AM): and plus, who says it was exactly a minute?
Kyuubirawr121 (6:38:16 AM): when I write multi battle logs
Kyuubirawr121 (6:38:19 AM): I write like this
Kyuubirawr121 (6:38:22 AM): 1v1x20
Kyuubirawr121 (6:38:35 AM): that doesn't mean their were 20 at a time
Kyuubirawr121 (6:38:45 AM): it means their were 20 period

Kyuubirawr121 (6:39:24 AM): the logs may have been within a minute of each other
Kyuubirawr121 (6:39:33 AM): but that means I was busy reffing, right?
Kyuubirawr121 (6:39:49 AM): so I didn't have time for the logs 'til AFTER i finished

Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:24 AM): 1...2...3...moves?
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:26 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:27 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:29 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:30 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:31 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:32 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:33 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:34 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:35 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:35 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:38 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:38 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:40 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:41 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:42 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:43 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:44 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:46 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:47 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:48 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:48 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:52 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:33:53 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:33:56 AM): ko
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:00 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:13 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:16 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:19 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:21 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:22 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:26 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:28 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:30 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:31 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:33 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:34 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:36 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:37 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:39 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:40 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:42 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:42 AM): t-bolt
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:45 AM): t-bolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:50 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:53 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:34:54 AM): ko
Givemeadollar04 (6:34:56 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:35:02 AM): TIME

.AzureLight
08-02-2006, 01:46 PM
Yeah, both people need to call attacks and mons, each time. :ermm:

Nasty Plasty
08-02-2006, 01:53 PM
Yeah, both people need to call attacks and mons, each time. :ermm:
hmm...good point.

Kyuubirawr121 (6:50:24 AM): we start again, watch for lagging
Kyuubirawr121 (6:50:36 AM): 1..2..3..moves?
Givemeadollar04 (6:50:41 AM): tbolt
Kyuubirawr121 (6:50:56 AM): Wwait wait wait
Kyuubirawr121 (6:50:59 AM): we don't have to
Kyuubirawr121 (6:51:11 AM): it may not be possible to have 20 battles in a minute
Kyuubirawr121 (6:51:20 AM): but since a minute could be an exaggeration
Kyuubirawr121 (6:51:34 AM): it is still physically possible

Givemeadollar04 (6:51:44 AM): Kyuubirawr121 (9:34:12 AM): ko StarQB Bledsoe11 (9:34:13 AM): splash Givemeadollar04 (9:34:13 AM): tbolt
Givemeadollar04 (6:51:56 AM): cant you just figure something out with the times?
Givemeadollar04 (6:52:08 AM): since it takes us a second to post after you?
Kyuubirawr121 (6:52:18 AM): right
Kyuubirawr121 (6:52:50 AM): if it takes two seconds per battle
Kyuubirawr121 (6:53:00 AM): 40 seconds not considering lags
Givemeadollar04 (6:53:04 AM): assume we go at max speed with no lag
Givemeadollar04 (6:53:08 AM): yea

Combine that with the other facts, and the fact we were on MSN.(Husnain and DC can approve we were) It is physically possible.

.AzureLight
08-02-2006, 01:57 PM
Anyways, OHKOs are only for evolution now. :tongue:

Pika57
08-02-2006, 02:44 PM
Why was Darkchild(blaziken Lover) unbanned from URPG in the first place?

JohtoTrainer
08-02-2006, 02:49 PM
I'm putting a ban on DarkChild and Husnain for now, until Jack makes a decision.

Espeon Rinage
08-02-2006, 03:34 PM
Well, In my opinion, The porygon should go to VT, since he was the 2nd highest bidder.

We Taste Pies...
08-02-2006, 03:36 PM
Well, In my opinion, The porygon should go to VT, since he was the 2nd highest bidder.

I wonder why VT wanted it. He already has one.

JohtoTrainer
08-02-2006, 03:38 PM
I wonder why VT wanted it. He already has one.

To trade. Obviously. :tongue:

Espeon Rinage
08-02-2006, 03:38 PM
He wanted it to make a worthy trade.

Pika57
08-02-2006, 03:46 PM
Well, In my opinion, The porygon should go to VT, since he was the 2nd highest bidder.

He didn't want it, he was just jacking up the price.

They should just reauction everything.

We Taste Pies...
08-02-2006, 04:08 PM
He didn't want it, he was just jacking up the price.

They should just reauction everything.

The problem with that is , nobody has any money now. After the auction, most people spent their money on tms and such.

Barkley3312
08-02-2006, 04:24 PM
I agree with JT on this one. There's no way Husnain should have gotten 150k in one day. I mean I'll admit it I have done ohko's to get money but never that much, But I also know I'm not the only one who has done Ohko's. That's why I'm aggreing with JT from now on you should only be able to Ohko if the other person is willing to take 7-10 losses to thier record and evolve thier pokemon. Also since we are doing this were losing other ways to earn money, Like Yesterday after the auction we had the biggest FFA there has ever been (i think it had about 15 people) and the winner only got 5,000. Jack said the earnings on FFA's have been to much. It's not the FFA's because we only have about 1 FFA a day and unless you VT your not going to win most of the time, It's the ohko's. So were losing other privlages by people like Husnain doing stupid things, and all the people are complaing about refs being in there with 80k or more, Thats all the more reason for you to become a ref. Plus they didn't even get thier wages that day, most of that was from them working thier ass off. Ohko's also take the fun out of the URPG, What do you think the if all creators were still playing here what would they think. Part of this is kind of a respect for you elders type of thing. They worked thier ass of to make this site not for it to be abused, What would you be doin if this site wasnt made, You would be bored everyday sitten there playing Monopoly with a stuffed Teddy Bear. So the least we can do is make this a rule so people can follow the rules or give them the shaft.

Thanks
Barkley3312

Pika57
08-02-2006, 06:17 PM
I agree with JT on this one. There's no way Husnain should have gotten 150k in one day. I mean I'll admit it I have done ohko's to get money but never that much, But I also know I'm not the only one who has done Ohko's. That's why I'm aggreing with JT from now on you should only be able to Ohko if the other person is willing to take 7-10 losses to thier record and evolve thier pokemon. Also since we are doing this were losing other ways to earn money, Like Yesterday after the auction we had the biggest FFA there has ever been (i think it had about 15 people) and the winner only got 5,000. Jack said the earnings on FFA's have been to much. It's not the FFA's because we only have about 1 FFA a day and unless you VT your not going to win most of the time, It's the ohko's. So were losing other privlages by people like Husnain doing stupid things, and all the people are complaing about refs being in there with 80k or more, Thats all the more reason for you to become a ref. Plus they didn't even get thier wages that day, most of that was from them working thier ass off. Ohko's also take the fun out of the URPG, What do you think the if all creators were still playing here what would they think. Part of this is kind of a respect for you elders type of thing. They worked thier ass of to make this site not for it to be abused, What would you be doin if this site wasnt made, You would be bored everyday sitten there playing Monopoly with a stuffed Teddy Bear. So the least we can do is make this a rule so people can follow the rules or give them the shaft.

Thanks
Barkley3312

I'm afraid to say I agree with you, because that huge chunk of writing hurts my eyes.

Also, half of what you said either doesn't make sense, or isn't relavent.

Seawolf
08-02-2006, 06:28 PM
Do you see me doing anything else? I've yet to buy a second mart mon, but do you see me complaining? It's just one part of the whole URPG, and some folks are better than others. At least story writing is harder than calling out an attack for a mon, and watch how a ref calcs the damage. You should be glad, Meg, that you're good at story writing. I am.


That may be true, but I get tired of writing after awhile. I wouldn't mind spending an obscene amount of money on a Pokemon every now and then. =/ It's a side of the URPG I have yet to experience.

DaRkUmBrEoN
08-02-2006, 06:32 PM
That may be true, but I get tired of writing after awhile. I wouldn't mind spending an obscene amount of money on a Pokemon every now and then. =/ It's a side of the URPG I have yet to experience.

Point taken... Though somehow those moments always come when I'm lacking the proper funds.

akdude
08-02-2006, 06:47 PM
Has anyone ever said that y'all whine too much? just checkin.

JohtoTrainer
08-02-2006, 06:48 PM
Has anyone ever said that y'all whine too much? just checkin.

Whine? People have the right to whine if someone cheated to get Pokemon in an auction. They basically got rare Pokemon for free. So, I don't know what you are talking about. :rolleyes:

Pika57
08-02-2006, 06:50 PM
Has anyone ever said that y'all whine too much? just checkin.

Akdude be quiet. I know you feel like your some sort of awesome vet, but you need to think before you post.

We Taste Pies...
08-02-2006, 06:50 PM
Whine? People have the right to whine if someone cheated to get Pokemon in an auction. They basically got rare Pokemon for free. So, I don't know what you are talking about. :rolleyes:

Excuse me for saying but...


OWNED

JT is right. Some people really wanted some of those mons. I really wanted that Slakoth, though thats not husanain or DC's fault.:oops:

Ridley
08-02-2006, 06:55 PM
The only time I ever OHKO'd was evolving Haunter.

akdude
08-02-2006, 06:57 PM
Akdude be quiet. I know you feel like your some sort of awesome vet, but you need to think before you post.
i don't think i'm an awsome vet. i just think that y'all need to stop whinning about something so stupid. just b/c trainers keep the same results, no matter the outcome, isn't wrong. either it be for money or for evolutionary purposes isn't wrong. and i'm not the one who needs to think before i post Pika.

and WTP, that wasn't necessary.

Loyal Arcanine
08-02-2006, 07:11 PM
Ok, enough of this. This is not even a serious discussion about the topic at hand anymore. You will hear what we have decided when we have decided. Except for the rule: ohko's only allowed for evolutions. That stands definitely.

*Locked.

Jack of Clovers
08-03-2006, 07:26 PM
Something I said once before.
However, there are fruitcakes that will probably take advantage of these battles upon reading this thread. Like 20 OHKO's. :susp: Anything more than evolution is absolutely absurd and shows little respect for the URPG.

~Jack~