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Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 05:41 PM
i didn't know how to get sprite pics with my old shop (i got them off google) but are we allowed to get them from the sprite resources on pe2k?because if we aren't allowed close this thread! so now i have new and improved skills ! employees if you want you can still work here old employees welcome back.i can now do retypes
BANNED LIST:SENT RELGAY GONZAP

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1002/espeonob9.gif (http://imageshack.us) sun espeon

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/8416/jynxux5.gif (http://imageshack.us) wedding jynx

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/9889/shinypolitoedkf8.gif (http://imageshack.us) shiny politoed

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/3543/umbreonis1.gif (http://imageshack.us) darker umbreon

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/1683/sabrinatv9.png (http://imageshack.us) I had to threat her with dark type before she let

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6232/gbs196dz8.gif (http://imageshack.us) spy espeon


http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4291/pkfrlg004td9.png (http://imageshack.us) blue charmander


http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5119/umbreonsy5.png (http://imageshack.us) my last hurrahh ketchup the katsup spoksperson

LS
09-01-2006, 05:43 PM
i didn't know how to get sprite pics with my old shop (i got them off google) but are we allowed to get them from the sprite resources on pe2k?because if we aren't allowed close this thread! so now i have new and improved skills ! employees if you want you can still work here

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1002/espeonob9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/8416/jynxux5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img446.imageshack.us/img446/9889/shinypolitoedkf8.gif (http://imageshack.us)


Yes you can get your sprites from there.

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 05:47 PM
ok good just making sure so requests open !

.AzureLight
09-01-2006, 05:50 PM
Learn. How. To. Recolor.

Read this. (http://www.freewebs.com/howtosprite)

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 05:54 PM
i just read it twice . c'mon i can do pokemon recoloring revamping devamping some type changes and trainers too .

Ham and Cheese
09-01-2006, 06:40 PM
You can do it, but you're not good at it. At all.

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 06:41 PM
so take your request:biggrin: :smile: :happy: :neutral: :sad:

Hypocrisy is Fun
09-01-2006, 06:43 PM
Those are like, bad.

.AzureLight
09-01-2006, 06:50 PM
Those are like, bad.

They're beyond bad. They have no shading. :sad:

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 07:00 PM
1. if it is the black line that outlines i don't use those i tryed and those suck

2. what's shading?

3. these are better than the old ones though , right ?

Hypocrisy is Fun
09-01-2006, 07:03 PM
1. if it is the black line that outlines i don't use those i tryed and those suck

2. what's shading?

3. these are better than the old ones though , right ?

If you dont know what shading is, just stop right now, please.

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 07:13 PM
ok i read what shading is lamence terms any one?

Hypocrisy is Fun
09-01-2006, 07:16 PM
Thats the simplest term ever. Shading. You know what a shade is? Well thats when you put the shade on it.

Gamakichi
09-01-2006, 07:43 PM
Determine how the light shines on the picture, then make it lighter/darker in the designated areas... that is pretty simple i think...

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 07:52 PM
i like brightness i think shading is kind of dumb. why do you boss me around? i just want to run a shop and youre all we need to shade

Gamakichi
09-01-2006, 07:53 PM
i like brightness i think shading is kind of dumb. why do you boss me around? i just want to run a shop and youre all we need to shade

I am not bossing you around, you ask for that in lamen's terms, so i gave it to you...and you may like brightness, but other people dont :(

.AzureLight
09-01-2006, 10:25 PM
Without shading, the sprites suck ass and fail. Alright?

Hypocrisy is Fun
09-01-2006, 10:30 PM
i like brightness i think shading is kind of dumb. why do you boss me around? i just want to run a shop and youre all we need to shade

Bossing you around? We're trying to save you from humiliation.

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 10:30 PM
i like neon colors next request please (no a better artis doesnot count)

PetrifiedGengar
09-01-2006, 10:31 PM
i like brightness i think shading is kind of dumb. why do you boss me around? i just want to run a shop and youre all we need to shade
Shading makes the pokemon look better, your sprites are really just one plain color.

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 10:34 PM
aside from that am i a good artist?

Shady
09-01-2006, 10:37 PM
aside from that am i a good artist?

the shading and everything is what makes a good artist, if you don't have any of that then no your not a good artist

Shadow Eevee
09-01-2006, 10:39 PM
ok i get it really ? no . so um now what how do u shade?

Shady
09-01-2006, 10:44 PM
ok i get it really ? no . so um now what how do u shade?

I think theres a tutorial somewere for everything you need to know, just have a look around.

.AzureLight
09-01-2006, 11:07 PM
I'll go and make yet another tutorial. :crackup:

Shadow Eevee
09-03-2006, 06:58 PM
seriusly request people i will put shading in it

chanseypanty
09-03-2006, 07:22 PM
i like brightness i think shading is kind of dumb. why do you boss me around? i just want to run a shop and youre all we need to shade
Is this a recolor shop :oops:

Shadow Eevee
09-03-2006, 07:43 PM
yes but read my first post.

Gamakichi
09-03-2006, 08:13 PM
yes but read my first post.
this (www.freewebs.com/howtosprite) is a great place

Shadow Eevee
09-03-2006, 08:16 PM
which do i have to read the cel shading?

Gamakichi
09-03-2006, 08:52 PM
which do i have to read the cel shading?
read them all! no seiriously, just read the recolor one.

Shadow Eevee
09-04-2006, 06:45 PM
ok i read it.

chanseypanty
09-04-2006, 06:51 PM
ok i read it.
What's the banned list for?>

Gamakichi
09-04-2006, 06:51 PM
ok i read it.
good, now post some of your revised work

Shadow Eevee
09-05-2006, 07:29 PM
ok i will start out with an espeon.(help)

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6232/gbs196dz8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Shadow From The Deep
09-06-2006, 01:34 AM
You have to put more than on color in the sprite. It makes it look better.

Shadow Eevee
09-06-2006, 04:05 PM
What's the banned list for?>
for people who CANNOT make requests andare not allowed in my shop until i change my mind .sorry.and shadow from the deep , what do you mean by more then color on the sprite?

.AzureLight
09-06-2006, 11:15 PM
You. f*cking. fail. And since obviously, you don't know how to look up TMTS' MSPaint Tutorial... I will f*cking post it for you. Right here in your own goddammed thread, so people can see how much you suck.

People, this is getting to the point where it's just SICKENING. There are FAR too many people who suck at using MSPaint now, to the point where it's getting out of hand. The next fusion/recolor sprite that I see that sucks, I'm killing everyone. So I made a nice tutorial for you all so you may learn what I know. Isn't that lovely?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/tools_colors.png This Chart is referenced a lot.

LESSON ONE: Colors

This is a biggie.
I'm going to be rather blunt with you. The colors MS paint gives you SUCK. DO NOT USE THEM!
(Exceptions being the black, the two greys, and the white)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/BADPALLETE.png

When I go around and see sprites that use the basic colors, it hurts my eyes. And it bleeds. It really does.

"How do we change this, TMTS?" You ask? The answer is QUITE SIMPLE my friends! Just simply Double-click on a square in your pallette you aren't using, and a little window pops up!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/custom1.png

Click "Define Custom Colors >>"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/custom2.png

And Hazzah! You now have a VERY wide range of colors to pick from, ranging into the millions!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/greyscalepallete.png

For this example I did a complex grayscale pallette, but it can be done with any color, and when it comes to sprites, you RARELY have to do that many, especially for a recolor. 5 or so is usually good.

You can also select two colors at a time, for your convenience. Just right-click the second color, and now whenever you right-click in the drawing area, it'll use the second color. Also when you do this, whenever you erase anything (don't use the eraser! (BLUE) ) by moving around with the square selector (see red). Same goes for the eyedropper (yellow) which will be explained later.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/twocolors.png

LESSON TWO: Transparencies, and getting to know the toolbar!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/sprite_bad.png

No. Not acceptable. This is perfectly fixable! First, when you're moving the sprite or w/e, select it, of course.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/copy_1.png

Now drag it over to the bg or whatever, and click the option marked in PURPLE on the tool reference chart. This will make whatever your second-color is transparent as you drag it over your bg.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/copy2.png

UH OH! That white on Qwilfish's tail is transparent!
Never fear! for this can also be fixed easily! But first, we must learn about MAGNIFICATION!

Marked in GREEN above, the magnifier
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/mag1.png
Is an invaluble tool in paint, especially when spriting. Most people will recommend x 8 magnification, so use that. magnify your area you need to work, and click the x8 when you go to magnify again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/mag2.png

Now that we have it magnified, we need to fix that blue part!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/copy3.png

Just select the white color which was erased when it was transparenced, and use the paint-splash tool (marked in orange) to color in what needs to be fixed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/copy4.png

All done! YAY! That wasn't so hard, was it?

LESSON THREE: Saving!

This is barely a section, but nowadays most people like it when you save files as .PNG. This not only saves space on your computer, but also allows for a bigger image without being smashed through Photobucket or whatever. When you go to "save as", go down to the file type.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/saveaspng.png

Select .PNG, and save as you normally would.

LESSON FOUR: Shading!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/GAYsprite.png
It's been MAIMED!

Sadly, people, I've seen worse. I really have.

IF you're going to do recolors, make a sprite tower. It helps. It's worth the time, and it keeps it organized.

NOW, in the SCAREY event you'd actually WANT to do a blue pikachu... I'll show you how it's done.

First, using the eyedropper tool, make a chart of all the shades in a pikachu.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/pika4.png

Now slowly replace each color with the corresponding one, until you're done.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/pika3.png

Hazzah! Now how good does THAT look?

(Or, you could find a program that does this FOR you, such as... never mind, this is a PAINT tutorial.)

LESSON FOUR: Extra tips and tricks, and Metalizing.

Just a few small points to get to before moving on to a new section.

- NEVER expand/mizimise with paint. PLEASE Don't. It makes it look like CRAP.
-...especially sprites
-When making banners, a simple black border around the edge does WONDERS, but you can add to that and make it spiffy with a metalized border, explained in a little bit.
-If you're going to ADD to a sprite or something, make it connect by including a black/whatever color border, and add shading to what you added so it MATCHES the sprite.
-NEVER save as .GIF. GIFs suck. They look like crap and should only be used when animating, or when it's ABSOLUTLY necessary. :dazed:

Metalizing is really easy, and can give borders/sprites that extra flare.

Simply do multiple squares or w/e of slightly different shades of black/grey in color order, and you get a really cool effect!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/metalizing.png

And voila! Spiffy-ness WITH PAINT! Wow! (results are the conan banner in my sig)

You can take this several steps further if you want by using other colors, but this works pretty good.

Here's something I did 2-8-05, messing with a complex sprite tower of a greyscale. It turned out pretty good, and might give a few ideas for the people like me stuck with paint.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/messingwithspritetower.png

LESSON FIVE: More cool shortcuts!

Just a few shortcuts to make your life a bit easier.

CTRL+C - copies whatever's selected
CTRL+V - Pastes what was copied last
PRNT SCRN/ Print Screen- Takes a screenshot of the screen at the time. Then can be pasted with CTRL+V. (see image below for location for the mentally impaired)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/keyboard6ys.jpg thanks D.2

CRTL+E,1,TAB,1,Enter- Minimises the area of the paint screen to one pixil, so you can paste whatever to minimize your workspace, or if you want to quicly crop by slecting what you were working on (let's say a button) and then doing this, and pasting. Magically it'll be cropped. (I use this A LOT)
CTRL+E- brings up atributes for the window, I like to start with 1000x1000 for big prodjects so I can copy every single step of the way as I go through, incase I mess up! (Paint can only "UNDO" 3 times...)
CTRL+Z- Undo. Very Helpful if you're spriting and paint splash the wrong pixil.

LESSON SIX: Cropping stock images to perfection..

Now, in the even you'd want to use stock images, to make something look nice, you want to remove the square-border around it, or if it has a few frilly white spots around the edge of the image (especially with GIFs or anime pictures of pokemon or w/e), you might just want to remove them. Here's how, explicitly explained with 7 WHOLE PICTURES! WOW!

Step one: get your picture. For this example, I'm using a diglett, mearly for simplicity.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/diglett1.png

Step two: Uh oh! You got a cool background or w/e, but those frilly white spots around the picture don't look too good!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/diglett2.png

Step three: Make a nice square around the picture off to the side using the tools indicated
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/diglett3.png
and then fill it in with a color like bright red or black, one that shouldn't appear very much on the picture or w/e.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/diglett4.png
And slowly erase any trace of white-grey. I recomend bright red for this reason, but for some reason I used black in this example. Bear with me...

Step four: Now that you're done isolating the picture, it's time to place it back on the bg!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/diglett5.png
If you read earlier, you SHOULD know how to do this, but...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/diglett6.png
Seeing as ironicly that shade of black is in the image, paintsplash your mini-work area with another color, like red.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/WhiteSealeo/Paint%20Tutorial/diglett7.png
Do a transparent replace, and you are done! This example looks like crap, but that's because I kinda sped through it... I trust anyone can do better... :tongue: I hope... :ermm:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?p=215955#post215955 continued there.

Ali the Dark One
09-07-2006, 06:22 AM
No! Just shading the magical word is: shading. Cel shading is different, so it's: shading... read TMTS's tutorial, I think it covers pretty much everything (well, most that you'll need to know for now)

Edit: Oh... I guess Lan posted it, whatever... I'm gonna go make some soup or something now... Wait a second!! I only read to the second page :oops:

Shadow Eevee
09-07-2006, 04:15 PM
lan you are so banished from this shop!forever! this is a no cursing zone and please request!

TVTMaster
09-07-2006, 04:26 PM
This is exactly the kind of shop I'm talking about in the petition. And you know what? Who's going to stop him from posting here? The only way is to request a lock, and both he and I would be very happy with that. And maybe you should actually do what the tutorial says, instead of reading it, saying you did, and then totally ignoring it. Oh, and another thing? I realize you're going to ban me now, too. But you know what? I'll just keep posting so there. Nya-nya. I do agree that Lan shouldn't have cursed, though.

Hakken
09-07-2006, 08:43 PM
You do need to shade... otherwise the sprites look stupid, and that's why... Somebody should just close this... If everyone thinks they look bad why does he expect a request? I'm no expert, but these have no quality...

chanseypanty
09-07-2006, 08:49 PM
for people who CANNOT make requests andare not allowed in my shop until i change my mind .sorry.and shadow from the deep , what do you mean by more then color on the sprite?
HOw did I get bann?

Gamakichi
09-07-2006, 09:16 PM
ok i will start out with an espeon.(help)

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/6232/gbs196dz8.gif (http://imageshack.us)
that is terrible...you don't recolor by yourself until you know what you are doing. you take another pokemon, and match the lightest shades, and recolor the one the other shade. do that for every shade. also, at cp, don't ask how, just say sorry.

.AzureLight
09-07-2006, 11:10 PM
lan you are so banished from this shop!forever! this is a no cursing zone and please request!

Oh noes. I'm soooo sad. Especially when I can make sprites 1000 times better than you. :rolleyes:

Just. Read. The. Tutorial. And if you don't understand it, it's a sign that spriting isn't for you. :ermm:

And, I curse. Deal with it. It's part of who I am.

Shadow Eevee
09-09-2006, 04:13 PM
chansey i banned you because you opened a sprite mall while having another succsesful shop open.and lan i curse too.i quit cursing though.

Hypocrisy is Fun
09-09-2006, 04:56 PM
These sprites are not very good… Why don’t you understand that you aren't taking the time to do them correctly? Read the tutorial, and you'll get better. Until then, you're only getting yourself ridiculed and mocked. You can't just take a sprite and use the colors at the bottom of Microsoft Paint.

Lan everyone else aren't trying to be mean, you just aren't listening. Take their advice and get better.

Lan even posted the tutorial for you, that should of helped you, but it seems you just ignored it. By keeping this "shop" open, you're really just hurting yourself.

I'm not trying to be mean to you, but really just point out your flaws in doing this. Next time try to do what others are trying to tell you. You learn new things everyday, and by listening to them, you can learn how to sprite well. Who knows, by reading that, you can get really good, but until then, you really should try to practice spriting the right way, and using Fire Red/Leaf Green sprites, because they are easier to do when you're new to this, a lot of the shading is done for you.

When you use Gold/Silver/Crystal sprites, you have to revamp it as well. Revamp means you make the sprite look like its from the newer games. This can lead to you having to shade by yourself. You don't seem like you can, that’s why newer sprites are easier to recolor and stuff.

I know I'm mean to a lot of people, but I'm trying to help you, so you aren't made fun of, or anything like that.

Azumao
09-09-2006, 05:25 PM
Ok, wow. Eeveebrothers, I am saying this nicely, please try to listen to their advice.
and to Lan:
You have a MAJOR attitutude/ego problem. Yes, his sprites aren't very good, but the things you (as well as others) have said are not okay. Ever heard of constructive critisicm? use it.

also, cussing only shows lack of a good vocabulary. :sleeping:

Shadow Eevee
09-09-2006, 10:45 PM
sorry .(sigh)feel free to lock this tread now .oh yeah hypocrispy i dont miss him

chanseypanty
09-09-2006, 10:49 PM
chansey i banned you because you opened a sprite mall while having another succsesful shop open.and lan i curse too.i quit cursing though.
Why does that have to get me ban???

Shadow Eevee
09-12-2006, 12:15 AM
it is like me having a succsesful shop and opening another one for no reason(i opened a 2nd shop because my other one had no buisnness.)you opened the mall and graph fart shop .my point exactly.


plus i never really liked you.but dont take it personal.oh yeah you dont request so why do you care?


please can a mod lock this already?

chanseypanty
09-12-2006, 12:19 AM
it is like me having a succsesful shop and opening another one for no reason(i opened a 2nd shop because my other one had no buisnness.)you opened the mall and graph fart shop .my point exactly.


plus i never really liked you.but dont take it personal.oh yeah you dont request so why do you care?


please can a mod lock this already?
Pe2k2000 is on Pm him.

Shadow Eevee
09-12-2006, 11:36 PM
please can anyone lock this?besides i think he is those people who dont allow you to mail.so please neopicakchu lock this

Gamakichi
09-12-2006, 11:44 PM
please can anyone lock this?besides i think he is those people who dont allow you to mail.so please neopicakchu lock this
yes they do...i pm them all of the time, just ask RM or LL33

Shadow Eevee
09-12-2006, 11:49 PM
oh sorry.here is my last pic.if you think its good then i stay and pm me if you like it. if not you know.

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5119/umbreonsy5.png (http://imageshack.us)

Gamakichi
09-13-2006, 12:05 AM
oh sorry.here is my last pic.if you think its good then i stay and pm me if you like it. if not you know.

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5119/umbreonsy5.png (http://imageshack.us)
alright you are shading!!! good. i wouldn't have made the circles teh same color, and you should've made it transparent. other than that, awesome. you should stay, because you are improving.

Shadow Eevee
09-15-2006, 08:26 PM
ok thanks never mind mods.thank you statsrock135 and jenvy i understood shading from her or him wuteva.

chanseypanty
09-15-2006, 08:28 PM
ok thanks never mind mods.thank you statsrock135 and jenvy i understood shading from her or him wuteva.
Yaeh and make sure you do the outlines, the lightest shade and stuff.

Gamakichi
09-15-2006, 08:50 PM
ok thanks never mind mods.thank you statsrock135 and jenvy i understood shading from her or him wuteva.
Jenvy=female
Strats=male
Yaeh and make sure you do the outlines, the lightest shade and stuff.
He did, but it was a bad choice to make the rings the same color. but that's why it is called practice, not begin-as-an-awesome-spriter

Shadow Eevee
09-16-2006, 12:46 AM
so can you join my forum ? next request.

chanseypanty
09-16-2006, 12:48 AM
so can you join my forum ? next request.
Let's test, Charmander into blue.

Remember:
Lightest color
Light color
Dark color
And Outline.

Shadow Eevee
09-16-2006, 01:12 AM
here it is


http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4291/pkfrlg004td9.png (http://imageshack.us) i hope you like it .remember please join my forum.

gotta go for today.but still make requests.
chansey i like your sig. can i save it on to my computer?please i wont use it.

chanseypanty
09-16-2006, 01:16 AM
here it is


http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/4291/pkfrlg004td9.png (http://imageshack.us) i hope you like it .remember please join my forum.

gotta go for today.but still make requests.
chansey i like your sig. can i save it on to my computer?please i wont use it.
HEre's a tip for the outline, get a pokemon that is blue (water okemn) and zoo and look forthe darkest color on its outline and do that to Charmander.

And you forgot about the lightest color.

Gamakichi
09-16-2006, 01:35 AM
Here's a tip for the outline, get a pokemon that is blue (water pokemn) and zoom and look for the darkest color on its outline and do that to Charmander.

And you forgot about the lightest color.

there you go, fixed.

Shadow Eevee
09-16-2006, 08:07 PM
oh but still it's better than eight rate color shop(which died yesterday)please join my forum sadly it's not about pokemon that much.
i got one meber why won't you join my foum?