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Jack of Clovers

11-14-2006, 06:36 AM

Talk about anything related only to Contests. Please post any questions and suggestions here.

Focal

11-18-2006, 01:08 PM

Ah, finally it's all ready :D Well Jack, I hope this becomes a success ^_^ I do have a question about the blending though. I've blended a few Blocks for the customers so far, and it seems like the numbers I'm getting is pretty high :s Is this just because they have a lot of Berries at once, or am I doing something wrong?

EDIT: Another question.

Advanced: URPG version. All Pokemon know all attacks and aren’t limited.
**Ribbons can’t be won.

Since it's unlimited, can they even learn moves they don't learn naturally? >__> Such as a Charmander using Transform or Water Gun? XD

theEND

11-18-2006, 01:15 PM

I've got another thing wondering around my head for a bit, as well. Jack, will it be necessary to change anything in the URPG's Contest specifics, concepts, and system once Diamond and Pearl's Contests are introduced. It WILL be a major difference from what we were introduced to in R/S/E, but I believe you can bear with the fact that you're going to have to change a whole lot of crap. I can't wait to put into use my new James Bond costume I made for my Skitty, Johnny!

Jack of Clovers

11-20-2006, 05:39 PM

Ah, finally it's all ready :D Well Jack, I hope this becomes a success ^_^ I do have a question about the blending though. I've blended a few Blocks for the customers so far, and it seems like the numbers I'm getting is pretty high :s Is this just because they have a lot of Berries at once, or am I doing something wrong?
Fixed. (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showpost.php?p=723030&postcount=17)

EDIT: Another question.

Since it's unlimited, can they even learn moves they don't learn naturally? >__> Such as a Charmander using Transform or Water Gun? XD
No no, it's the same as battles. All moves that they learn and any moves they've been taught. I'll change the wording around on that.
I've got another thing wondering around my head for a bit, as well. Jack, will it be necessary to change anything in the URPG's Contest specifics, concepts, and system once Diamond and Pearl's Contests are introduced. It WILL be a major difference from what we were introduced to in R/S/E, but I believe you can bear with the fact that you're going to have to change a whole lot of crap. I can't wait to put into use my new James Bond costume I made for my Skitty, Johnny!
I'm not worring about D/P until it comes out.

~Jack~

Ryouseiken

11-24-2006, 05:12 AM

How DID the Berry System get figured out? The whole equation thing, I'm presuming a lot of gameplay on the Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald games. XD Or manually made up the system, which is cool too. :happy:

I'm hoping someone will be able to look over/mod the contest I'm in. XD I can kind of see that contests haven't picked up completely though..

Snow Fairy Sugar

11-24-2006, 05:18 AM

For a start, Jack...

I think you should make money available in Contests as well. I mean, like a person wins the contest, and ges so much money.

I thought there was a difference between contests and pokemon battles. It kida looks like we're forced to do pokemon battles to get money to become a pokemon coordinator.

Once contests guys get money, then it can be evenly split into pure trainers, pure coordinators(I want to become one :wink: )

Course, just in case people are joining contests just to get money for battles, you can separate the currencies, and certain berries, which we can use for both, can be bouht by both forms of currencies.

~May~

DarkGardevoir

11-24-2006, 03:07 PM

For a start, Jack...

I think you should make money available in Contests as well. I mean, like a person wins the contest, and ges so much money.

I thought there was a difference between contests and pokemon battles. It kida looks like we're forced to do pokemon battles to get money to become a pokemon coordinator.

Once contests guys get money, then it can be evenly split into pure trainers, pure coordinators(I want to become one :wink: )

Course, just in case people are joining contests just to get money for battles, you can separate the currencies, and certain berries, which we can use for both, can be bouht by both forms of currencies.

~May~

berryes will never be used in battle, i think.

but, the whole idea is fine. I think that the contest money should be raised a bit. with 2 battle, a trainer can get as much money as a coordinator get in a contest

King Zark

11-24-2006, 05:03 PM

Can a judge take a look at smart contest

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=68

.AzureLight

11-24-2006, 10:17 PM

Once D/P come out, we'll have contest modes like battle modes (R/S/E or D/P or URPG). :neutral:

Ryouseiken

11-24-2006, 11:01 PM

I need a judge to look over a contest I'm in too. :confused:

Jack of Clovers

11-25-2006, 02:01 AM

How DID the Berry System get figured out? The whole equation thing, I'm presuming a lot of gameplay on the Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald games. XD Or manually made up the system, which is cool too. :happy:
It took me a lot of site searching to find Contest info. I knew there wouldn't be much, so I took a little here and there, reading FAQ's and forums. This site (http://upc.pkmn.co.uk/) really helped out 'cause that's where I found the formulas.

They also have a blending calculator, which I forgot to add. :oops: I'll put the link (http://upc.pkmn.co.uk/games/rs/guides/blockcalc.html) in the Berry Store, for those that don't want to do it manually.

Speaking of Berry Store, I'm changing Spicy, Sour, etc. into their Attribute forms (cool, tough, etc) to make it less confusing.

For a start, Jack...

I think you should make money available in Contests as well. I mean, like a person wins the contest, and ges so much money.

I thought there was a difference between contests and pokemon battles. It kida looks like we're forced to do pokemon battles to get money to become a pokemon coordinator.

Once contests guys get money, then it can be evenly split into pure trainers, pure coordinators(I want to become one :wink: )

Course, just in case people are joining contests just to get money for battles, you can separate the currencies, and certain berries, which we can use for both, can be bouht by both forms of currencies.

~May~
Ok, I see. Berries are kinda expensive too. I'll raise up the winnings $500 each place. This'll help those pure coordinators.

First place- $2,000
Second- $1,500
Third-$1,500
Forth- $1,000

~Jack~

Ryouseiken

11-25-2006, 02:17 AM

Ah that's cool, hey btw, are you a contest ref? XD :happy:

I was also wondering, what was the point of removing stats? why not just max them all out? XD the 0/125 things for beauty, cool and all that.

Jack of Clovers

11-25-2006, 02:42 AM

Maxing the Attribute stats out would make contests too easy. People would probably be bored of contests faster. Having to remove Attributes and put new ones on makes it more exciting. As if you were a real Cooridinator. You strength train for Tough Contests and if you win that, you buy brushes and fur products for a Cute Contest. No Pokemon can be the best in all the areas at the same time, at least that's how I think it would work.

~Jack~

Ryouseiken

11-25-2006, 02:49 AM

Okay. XD That sounds cool :happy: Also XD

Ah that's cool, hey btw, are you a contest ref? XD :happy:

Snow Fairy Sugar

11-25-2006, 11:54 AM

Ok, I see. Berries are kinda expensive too. I'll raise up the winnings $500 each place. First place- $2,000
Second- $1,500
Third-$1,500
Forth- $1,000

Hmm, guess that's better. :wink:

This'll help those pure coordinators.

~Jack~

Pure and poor XD

King Zark

11-25-2006, 12:41 PM

You should do both.

Btw any BM,TM etc for poke has to be brought from the pokemart or can pokemno use any 4 moves.

Jack of Clovers

11-26-2006, 08:37 AM

Yes, like battles, you have to buy those TM's, etc, in order to use them.

~Jack~

Jack of Clovers

12-03-2006, 08:23 AM

Another thing I forgot to add: Contest Combo moves. You can find that in the Contest Moves List, at the end. Or click this link (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showpost.php?p=746301&postcount=7).

~Jack~

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-04-2006, 07:27 AM

Jack, double posting XD

One more thing : Seeing that how slowly contests are taking place, I suggest you bend the rules slightly : Allow coordinators to take part in two battles at a time, provided he/she doesn't have too many activa battles, or something like that. You see : There aren't many contests, and the contests haven't even gone past one page, if you get what I mean. =/

~May~

Jack of Clovers

12-04-2006, 07:45 AM

Well, the problem with that is, we only have 4 judges right now. I've noticed we're abit slow down here and I realize it's the lack of judges. :oops: So I'll pick some more.

Speaking of forum contests, only myself and Robert have taken any. If we allowed 2 contests per person, I think it might overwhelm us. As you can see, one contest is still un0judged. 3 is enough for me. I don't want to overload my PM's and confuse different contests.

~Jack~

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-04-2006, 07:48 AM

Well, the problem with that is, we only have 4 judges right now. I've noticed we're abit slow down here and I realize it's the lack of judges. :oops: So I'll pick some more.

~Jack~

I think you can pick and have some kind of a judge test, like reffing test. Also, is there some kind of how to become a judge? I want to try for Contest judge. :cool:

EDIT : I see what you mean, that would be too much of a good thing. XD

And besides, everyone's more active in URPG battles. :sad: Anyways..

Anyway, I have thought of a new project, that should make contests mor interesting. I've named it "James-Robert" XD. Anyway, I'm going to include several things, that can change up the concept in contests.

I'm going to make a rough draft soon, and if possible, send them to Jack tonight, and lets see if he approves them. Anyway, here's what one of the things the new plan will contain : Trainer+Coordinator contest.

Weird, huh? Indeed. This is what is going to happen : There are going to be two on two coordinator battles as well. The concept is, there's going to be a contest, first and then have a battle. Of course, there may be a separate section for coordinator battles, and can be reffed by a URPG ref. Supposing a person wins both the contest and the battle, he's the winner. If he wins a contests and loses a battle, or vice-versa, then it so happens that we(the judges) will check the points scored from the attacks, and which trainer/coordinator scores more overall, is the winner. :D

That's because this is a coordinator's contest, remember? And besides, the attacks in the battle may or may not be regarded for the contest.

For example, if it's a Beauty contest, and a trainer uses a non-compatible attack, like Smart or something, those points may count.

Of course, it all depends on Jack, whether or not he wants it.

And to prevent flooding of such contests, there's going to be a small fee, or something, and the money earned will be lesser, and no ribbons will be won. It's still not planned out properly, I'll do my best to finish it quickly. I'm also thinking of "coordinator gyms" where a coordinator can challenge the gym leader for a ribbon, or something. You get my point? :wink:

And this is going to be one of the things I'm going to plan out, keep your eys open, okay everyone? :wink:

Requesting feedback, Jack. And I'll PM you my ideas and stuff tonight, if I can get them down fast enough.

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-06-2006, 01:59 AM

I'm double posting so that everyone can see the main points of the project properly.

Here's some good news for you all. :cool:

The project is nearly complete and will kick off, if possible, by tomorrow evening. :dance:

Here's the main stuff I've finished.

1)Trainer+Coordinator Battles. Both trainers will have to pay 500$ to the referee :P to prevent flooding of such quick matches. The prizes have not been decided yet, and the trainer battles will go in the forum battles board. Of course, those victories will count in your URPG stats without the money. You'll get money only after the contest gets over. Winner gets 2,000$ and loser 1,500$ or something like that, hope Jack will take care of it. But the referee will get money; all the same. :P

2)Gym Battles

There's going to be coordinator gyms a few days later. :dance:

Of course, you need a minimum of four pokemon, and you can't borrow your gym pokemon. And there's not going to be TM's and stuff. However, there'll be ribbons, with which you can enter coordinator contests; which; if Jack gives me permission, I'm going to hold once every two months, or something. :P

There's going to be a gym leader contest tournament. Only the top eight will be selected for the gyms. There's going to be Two Elite Four. One of who, will most probably be Robert, or one very tough trainer, who does have free time on his/her hands. For now, I'll ask Robert, but it would be preferable that our judges are free. :oops:

The Gym Leader contest will come up, once I get Jack's permission. It's going to be URPG tournament, only battles, and when we're down to eight, there's going to be two contests, for determining the best gym-leaders. The money earned will be

Winner : 2,500$ (Challenger will get a ribbon, and if possible, a berry)

Loser : 1,500$.

Of course, to prevent quick money making by abusing battles, you may battle a gym leader only once a week. For example, if Jack's a gym leader, and you won/lost against him, then you may not challenge him for another week at least. That will prevent people who try to get easy money quickly. Remember, its your duty as a gym leader to discourage such things, and remember, if someone reports it, you'll be stripped off your gym-leader status, and you will not get another chance again. (Ask Jack if this is okay or not to give cheaters another chance)

That's about all, for now, I'm going to post a bit more later. No-one would want to read a super-huge post. :sleepy:

Subside

12-06-2006, 02:11 AM

To be fair everyones trying to get to grips with the contests as its is, throwing this into the mix would over complicate and confuse everyone.

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-06-2006, 02:14 AM

I know, I'm trying to make it easier, I PM'ed Jack. It's not going to start until a fortnight at least. :oops:

Hopefully, we can simplify all this and get it done. :P

Leoblaze

12-06-2006, 02:59 AM

I like the Ideas May but like Yami said the contest are hard enough and this is still a bit confusing, I bet though with Jack's help it will become clearer ( I hope/ think)

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-06-2006, 05:10 PM

Hello everyone, you may not believe this, but your good old Buddy May is completing the final stages of her project! :dance:

3)Readymade Pokeblocks
Okay, this consists of getting readymade pokeblocks. It's an alternative to berries, and will save us a lot of hassle in on the spot caluclations, if we have it all done before-hand. :oops:

a)Cheap pokeblocks : These are going to decrease nervousness slightly/none at all. Stats raise only slightly. :P

b)Medium range pokeblocks : Stats increase quite a bit more, nervousness is decreased considerably more.

c)High Range pokeblocks : You know, stats increase a lot, nervousness is considerably reduced.

Extra : Most expensive pokeblocks. Can bring nervousness down to zero, increases your points a lot. :o

However, I'm wondering whether we should get a catch like if you're using it on wrong pokemon, etc, it increases the nervousness by a lot. :O

Depends, I'm not sure about the last one yet, I'll just take care of it in my free time.

4)Prevention of Abusing Gym Battles

Okay, here's a catch. Seeing that coordinators are getting more money than trainers, I'm going to impose a rule. No two coordinators may have a re-match for 48 hours, and suppose a person battled a gym, no re-challenging that gym again, for at least a week. That will prevent people trying to make easy and quick money. I'll try and fix all loopholes in making quick money the dishonet way, by tomorrow.

5)Stars got during contests. :cool:

I'm considering having stars only on the basis of abilities and compatibility.

Example :

Supposing Salamence takes part in a tough contest. The ability of Salamence is "Intimidate". If no other pokemon has intimidate, then it gets four star. And, if it uses Roar during a turn, it may get five stars. :cool:

In case it happens in compatible contests, like cool, or smart, you get one star less. A Salamence (Intimidate+Roar) in tough will fetch four stars in Tough/Cool.

Now, this is where I need your help, Jack. I need some volunteers, who can make a separate move and ability list, which can earn stars. If possible, I need you, Yami, Robert, Lan and if possible; Chris, to sort this stuff out. We'll select some moves, and abilities, and sort them up. I'll get the rest down later. :happy:

So...is it okay with you guys? If you can help, please note down abilities, and cool moves, which you think can be compatible with particula contests, okay? I'll start after getting the final points down, too.

Some feedback here too, Jack?

Oh, and remember, all this is just a project, just making suggestions and stuff, Jack may edit/accept/reject it later. :oops:

Echo

12-06-2006, 06:23 PM

Hello everyone, you may not believe this, but your good old Buddy May is completing the final stages of her project! :dance:

Our good buddy May could confirm the fact that Jack approved the ideas before wasting time by typing out all the long posts.

Jack of Clovers

12-06-2006, 09:17 PM

I thought we were going to discuss this over PM. Oh well, since it's here:

Here's the main stuff I've finished.

1)Trainer+Coordinator Battles. Both trainers will have to pay 500$ to the referee :P to prevent flooding of such quick matches. The prizes have not been decided yet, and the trainer battles will go in the forum battles board. Of course, those victories will count in your URPG stats without the money. You'll get money only after the contest gets over. Winner gets 2,000$ and loser 1,500$ or something like that, hope Jack will take care of it. But the referee will get money; all the same. :P
Battlers aren't gong to pay the Ref/Judge. Not going to happen.
2)Gym Battles

There's going to be coordinator gyms a few days later. :dance:

Of course, you need a minimum of four pokemon, and you can't borrow your gym pokemon. And there's not going to be TM's and stuff. However, there'll be ribbons, with which you can enter coordinator contests; which; if Jack gives me permission, I'm going to hold once every two months, or something. :P

There's going to be a gym leader contest tournament. Only the top eight will be selected for the gyms. There's going to be Two Elite Four. One of who, will most probably be Robert, or one very tough trainer, who does have free time on his/her hands. For now, I'll ask Robert, but it would be preferable that our judges are free. :oops:

The Gym Leader contest will come up, once I get Jack's permission. It's going to be URPG tournament, only battles, and when we're down to eight, there's going to be two contests, for determining the best gym-leaders. The money earned will be

Winner : 2,500$ (Challenger will get a ribbon, and if possible, a berry)

Loser : 1,500$.

Of course, to prevent quick money making by abusing battles, you may battle a gym leader only once a week. For example, if Jack's a gym leader, and you won/lost against him, then you may not challenge him for another week at least. That will prevent people who try to get easy money quickly. Remember, its your duty as a gym leader to discourage such things, and remember, if someone reports it, you'll be stripped off your gym-leader status, and you will not get another chance again. (Ask Jack if this is okay or not to give cheaters another chance)

That's about all, for now, I'm going to post a bit more later. No-one would want to read a super-huge post. :sleepy:
Contest Gyms won't happen for quite a while. People need to have the basic understanding of contests first. We basically need more Coordinators and more interest first.
3)Readymade Pokeblocks
Okay, this consists of getting readymade pokeblocks. It's an alternative to berries, and will save us a lot of hassle in on the spot caluclations, if we have it all done before-hand. :oops:

a)Cheap pokeblocks : These are going to decrease nervousness slightly/none at all. Stats raise only slightly. :P

b)Medium range pokeblocks : Stats increase quite a bit more, nervousness is decreased considerably more.

c)High Range pokeblocks : You know, stats increase a lot, nervousness is considerably reduced.

Extra : Most expensive pokeblocks. Can bring nervousness down to zero, increases your points a lot. :o

However, I'm wondering whether we should get a catch like if you're using it on wrong pokemon, etc, it increases the nervousness by a lot. :O

Depends, I'm not sure about the last one yet, I'll just take care of it in my free time.
Blending is fine enough for all our Pokeblocks needs.
4)Prevention of Abusing Gym Battles

Okay, here's a catch. Seeing that coordinators are getting more money than trainers, I'm going to impose a rule. No two coordinators may have a re-match for 48 hours, and suppose a person battled a gym, no re-challenging that gym again, for at least a week. That will prevent people trying to make easy and quick money. I'll try and fix all loopholes in making quick money the dishonet way, by tomorrow.
We aren't going to restrict battles/contests. We ony do it over the forum to prevent so many threads from being created.
5)Stars got during contests. :cool:

I'm considering having stars only on the basis of abilities and compatibility.

Example :

Supposing Salamence takes part in a tough contest. The ability of Salamence is "Intimidate". If no other pokemon has intimidate, then it gets four star. And, if it uses Roar during a turn, it may get five stars. :cool:

In case it happens in compatible contests, like cool, or smart, you get one star less. A Salamence (Intimidate+Roar) in tough will fetch four stars in Tough/Cool.

Now, this is where I need your help, Jack. I need some volunteers, who can make a separate move and ability list, which can earn stars. If possible, I need you, Yami, Robert, Lan and if possible; Chris, to sort this stuff out. We'll select some moves, and abilities, and sort them up. I'll get the rest down later. :happy:

So...is it okay with you guys? If you can help, please note down abilities, and cool moves, which you think can be compatible with particula contests, okay? I'll start after getting the final points down, too.

Some feedback here too, Jack?

Oh, and remember, all this is just a project, just making suggestions and stuff, Jack may edit/accept/reject it later. :oops:
Yes, this is what I'm looking for. A system of judging battles during the contest. I like the Intimidate/Roar combo. This'll probably take the longest to work out, which is all I need to know in order to initiate Anime-like contests (which still won't happen for quite a while).

May, start a new thread to discuss this star system and employ help. It'll be easier to organize that way.

~Jack~

Subside

12-06-2006, 09:24 PM

People need to have the basic understanding of contests first. We basically need more Coordinators and more interest first.

So, why already try and have these contest/battles when the contest area's aren't what anyone would call active at the moment? There is little interest in the contests at the moment and i don't see how this will help.

I thought the contests were supposed to be something completely different to the battling half of the URPG, combining them seems too complicated and takes the fun out of contests.

I say it should be put to a vote when the contests become more active.

Fossil Fusion

12-06-2006, 09:30 PM

So, why already try and have these contest/battles when the contest area's aren't what anyone would call active at the moment? There is little interest in the contests at the moment and i don't see how this will help.

I thought the contests were supposed to be something completely different to the battling half of the URPG, combining them seems too complicated and takes the fun out of contests.

I say it should be put to a vote when the contests become more active.

I agree with this, but i think GBA contests take less time than anime like ones... Plus people are mostly familiar with the GBA contests and know how they work mostly.

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-07-2006, 05:32 AM

Fine, Jack. I'm opening the thread in the contest section later. I'll give out the details of the plans and stuff in the PM, okay?

EDIT : I've thought of something weird. It's just a publicity stunt, but it might be good. Anyway, how about some sort of prizes for the best URPG story,Fan-fiction/Roleplay? :oops:

I know it may sound stupid, but actually, it's just a kinda publicity stunt. It will get more people attracted towards contests. What do you think?

DarkGardevoir

12-07-2006, 09:53 AM

Fine, Jack. I'm opening the thread in the contest section later. I'll give out the details of the plans and stuff in the PM, okay?

EDIT : I've thought of something weird. It's just a publicity stunt, but it might be good. Anyway, how about some sort of prizes for the best URPG story,Fan-fiction/Roleplay? :oops:

I know it may sound stupid, but actually, it's just a kinda publicity stunt. It will get more people attracted towards contests. What do you think?

actually, those kind of things already happens. The roleplay just started(quite) and a story contest is held every half year. About fanfiction, they don't belong to the URPG, so nothing about them

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-07-2006, 09:58 AM

actually, those kind of things already happens. The roleplay just started(quite) and a story contest is held every half year. About fanfiction, they don't belong to the URPG, so nothing about them

I know, I know, this is just a publicity stunt, lol. ^^"

Still, lets see what jack says. =/ And DG, can you help me with the movesets and stuff? I need volunteers. :wink:

~May~

DarkGardevoir

12-07-2006, 11:01 AM

I know, I know, this is just a publicity stunt, lol. ^^"

Still, lets see what jack says. =/ And DG, can you help me with the movesets and stuff? I need volunteers. :wink:

~May~

hmm... dunno... i have to see. That idea sounds pretty neat, i like it, i might help. Actually, i already have some moves/ability combo in mind

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-07-2006, 11:03 AM

hmm... dunno... i have to see. That idea sounds pretty neat, i like it, i might help. Actually, i already have some moves/ability combo in mind

Hmm, cool, it so happens that I'm about to open the thread for mentioning ideal move+ability list, so please post it there, okay? :)

~May~

DarkGardevoir

12-07-2006, 11:28 AM

hmm... ok...

Well, i have only a few, you might call them oblivious, but these are:

[Ability/es - Move combo(bonus that may get if ok)]

Hyper Cutter - Cut/Slash/maybe Scratch. Better Cutter, better cutting

CompoundEyes/Keen Eye - Mind Read . To read mind, they have to look, and with a better eye they look better

Cute Charm - Attract . Have the same effect in battle( Perhaps in contests with Cute Charm Attract gets an extra bonus of making nervous, like 5/10%)

Speed Boost - Quick attack/Agility. All up to speed(always become first, even if used second)

Thick Fat - Belly Drum

White Smoke - Smokescreen

Illuminate - Spark.I remember the animation in game makes the area brighter

Static/LightningRod - any electric attack

Damp - Explosion/Selfdestruct. This is inverted, if anyone use Explosion and there is a mon with damp, explosion loses 2 points.

Inner Focus - Focus Energy . stay focused

Rain Dish/Swift Swim - Rain Dance

Chlorophyll - Solarbeam . They need sunshine

can't think of more, i'm late and i have to go

King Zark

12-07-2006, 11:28 AM

This is an RSE game guide from gamefaqs It has lsit of combos jsut scroll down.

http://db.gamefaqs.com/portable/gbadvance/file/pokemon_rs_contest.txt

Snow Fairy Sugar

12-07-2006, 12:03 PM

someone click the link and tell me if they're seeing what I'm seeing. :susp:

~May~

DaRkUmBrEoN

12-07-2006, 12:18 PM

King Zark

12-12-2006, 01:35 PM

Where's jack he havsn't posted the contest result for long time.

been a week

DaRkUmBrEoN

12-12-2006, 01:53 PM

Where's jack he havsn't posted the contest result for long time.

been a week

He's having his finals this week, like 40% of the active pe2k members. :P

-]DU[-

King Zark

12-12-2006, 02:00 PM

oh I just have this week I have final 2 weeks after winterbreak.

Jack of Clovers

12-15-2006, 10:47 AM

Yea, sorry about that. I would have done the 4th round last week if I hadn't deleted a PM. :oops: Anyway, I'm back to finish it off.

~Jack~

King Zark

12-21-2006, 10:58 AM

Can I be a judge? or are you waiting awhile before having any judges.

Umbreon Shadow

12-28-2006, 05:48 PM

For the stats, would I have to post all my pokemon or just the ones I want to use in contests?

And would Luster be from the pokeblocks the pokemon eats, or all of it's stats added up?

Jack of Clovers

12-30-2006, 08:26 AM

For the stats, would I have to post all my pokemon or just the ones I want to use in contests?
--Just the ones you want to use is fine.
And would Luster be from the pokeblocks the pokemon eats, or all of it's stats added up?
--From the Pokeblocks.

~Jack~

Snow Fairy Sugar

01-01-2007, 07:31 AM

Jack, I wanted to ask a few things.

Suppose Tyranitar is sent [M/F, Sandstream] a Sandstrom will rage. Will it affect the other pokemon?

Also, suppose some pokemon uses Sunny Day, or Rain Dance or Hail, should there be some points increasing or something? Like suppose person A uses Sunny Day, and person B has already listed all of his moves as water type and is forced to use a water attack (Eg : Hydro Pump), or the other way round? Using fire/grass or such attacks when it's raining or hail?

Jack of Clovers

01-01-2007, 09:46 AM

Suppose Tyranitar is sent [M/F, Sandstream] a Sandstrom will rage. Will it affect the other pokemon?
Abilities don't have any affect in contests, as far as I know.

Also, suppose some pokemon uses Sunny Day, or Rain Dance or Hail, should there be some points increasing or something? Like suppose person A uses Sunny Day, and person B has already listed all of his moves as water type and is forced to use a water attack (Eg : Hydro Pump), or the other way round? Using fire/grass or such attacks when it's raining or hail?
No, there's nothing like this.

It seems like you're trying to make contests harder than they should be. :tongue:

~Jack~

Snow Fairy Sugar

01-01-2007, 09:49 AM

No, there's nothing like this.

It seems like you're trying to make contests harder than they should be. :tongue:

~Jack~
Harder, but funner. Wow, cool word. "Funner". >=D

Actually, I'm asking these to confirm that they don't need any inclusion in, you know, the stars, and stuff.

You put me in total mess, now. What do I do with the movesets like Intimidate+Roar combo? :goofy: Naah, I'll take care of it.

Ali the Dark One

01-08-2007, 03:33 AM

I noticed that the Touga berry doesn't have stats in the berry store, I won a Touga berry in the End of the Year Lottery and I'm not sure that I can use it...

EDIT: Link: http://www.serebii.net/berrydex/berrydex.php?id=53

Jack of Clovers

01-08-2007, 03:39 AM

Touga Berry? :eh: I'm not familar with that berry. Is that a new berry from D/P?

~Jack~

Killik

01-08-2007, 04:26 AM

Touga Berry? :eh: I'm not familar with that berry. Is that a new berry from D/P?

~Jack~

Well, according to the link it says it is from an E-reader Card Set in Japan. That is probably why it isn't in the store.

Snow Fairy Sugar

01-08-2007, 05:02 AM

http://www.serebii.net/berrydex/berrydex.php?id=53

I found this on Serebii. They have a whole load of other berries, but think they're from D/P.

Don't think we should incluse D/P berries, right now, calculating the luster and stuff of the berries we have right now is confusing enough.:goofy:

Ali the Dark One

01-08-2007, 05:26 AM

Touga Berry? :eh: I'm not familar with that berry. Is that a new berry from D/P?

~Jack~

No, it's what could happen to an enigma berry when you use the ereader...

Jack of Clovers

01-10-2007, 12:21 AM

Oh, I didn't see the link provided. :oops: Uh, let's just stick to the game berries. So I guess you'll have to pick something else from the Store.

~Jack~

Ali the Dark One

01-10-2007, 04:34 AM

Actually, I won the berry from the lottery... Is there a chance that I can like, change which berry I get instead of the Touga berry...

Link: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28043&page=6

Ryouseiken

01-10-2007, 06:41 AM

lsukid and umbreon shadow yet to respond to contest, do you read me guys? XD XP

Snow Fairy Sugar

01-10-2007, 08:04 AM

For all you know, they might've PM'ed their moves to ST. :tongue:

Leman

01-11-2007, 12:49 AM

If we are posting our moves on the thread, do we wait for a judge to post the move or just post before one gets there?

King Zark

01-11-2007, 03:33 AM

I don't think the touga berry I don't the official even know how to use touga berry.

Jack of Clovers

01-11-2007, 07:55 AM

Actually, I won the berry from the lottery... Is there a chance that I can like, change which berry I get instead of the Touga berry...

Link: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28043&page=6

Yea, just pick another berry. Sorry I didn't catch the mistake back then. :oops:

~Jack~

King Zark

01-14-2007, 02:52 PM

Should Agility or Quick attack that makes u go first shouldn't it be a combo with Aerial Ace?

Leman

01-14-2007, 08:17 PM

Is String Shot, Spider Web a combo?

DarkGardevoir

01-15-2007, 04:22 PM

Is String Shot, Spider Web a combo?

Contest Combos (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showpost.php?p=746301&postcount=7)

yes, they are

Ali the Dark One

01-20-2007, 12:29 AM

Yea, just pick another berry. Sorry I didn't catch the mistake back then. :oops:

~Jack~

Umm... Actually, I think I'll get a belue berry. Wait, I am I supposed to accept this here?

Jack of Clovers

01-20-2007, 01:53 AM

Sure, here is fine. Good choice.

~Jack~

Leman

02-09-2007, 01:49 AM

How long will a judge wait for someone to submit there move?

Jack of Clovers

02-09-2007, 04:03 AM

I think 5-6 days sounds like a good length. Maybe a PM reminder on the 3rd day.

~Jack~

red 23 blue

02-10-2007, 04:20 AM

Really?I cant ait for the contests to begin.....

Nikki the Mew

02-15-2007, 09:59 PM

I have a question about maximizing stats for the Primary Judging.

Say someone has maxed out their..cute stat, but they also have a Pink Scarf. Would the Scarf have any effect on the stat??

Jack of Clovers

02-16-2007, 07:43 AM

Once you reach max, the scarf won't add anymore.

~Jack~

Eraizaa-kun

04-26-2007, 03:55 AM

I have a question. On the gameboy, all the appeals made in contests get an additional Heart for each star the pokemon has (this is how I was able to beat all contests at all levels). Does it still work like that on the URPG contests?

King Zark

04-26-2007, 11:11 AM

Guys check for Super smart contest I/we need 3 more ppl.

Realityxxx

07-07-2007, 01:50 PM

Do we post our stats first, or do we enter the actal CONTEST first?

shatteredrose

07-12-2007, 03:08 AM

Do we post our stats first, or do we enter the actal CONTEST first?
How/Where do you enter a contest? Or how do you find people to be in a contest? I could not find this explained anywhere.

Ataro

09-01-2007, 05:31 AM

How/Where do you enter a contest? Or how do you find people to be in a contest? I could not find this explained anywhere.

Originally Posted in Contest Rules
Having a Contest

To start a contest, visit the Coordinators Station. Or find other members on messenger, like AIM, YIM, or MSN. Then all participants must agree to either Standard or Advanced rules, decide on what Attribute to use, and which Rank to enter.

During Primary Judging, you must give the judge your Pokemons attribute points so he/she may score you correctly. They are not going to look for them for you.

During Secondary Judging, simply call an attack to use.

During the contest, you can be as open or as secretive as you want. Private messaging your stats and attacks to the Judge may be a better strategy than letting everyone know what you will use.

Afterward, the Judge will add up the scores and the results will be posted.

And, can someone tell me how do you calculate Luster? As in, in the Contest Rules, it is written as all Attributes add up.

But from what I know, shouldn't it be the Luster of all different Pokeblocks added up?

Someone please clarify, I would prefer experienced people to clarify, like DG/Jack, no offense. I need it asap, thankyou.

DarkGardevoir

09-01-2007, 07:54 AM

And, can someone tell me how do you calculate Luster? As in, in the Contest Rules, it is written as all Attributes add up.

But from what I know, shouldn't it be the Luster of all different Pokeblocks added up?

Someone please clarify, I would prefer experienced people to clarify, like DG/Jack, no offense. I need it asap, thankyou.

It's written somewhere there too. The luster is calculated by dividing it by 2 and adding it to the rest of stats,just like as if it was another secondary attribute(the 2 compatible with the contest primary attribute)

here's the equation

Equation = ((B+C+F)/2)+A
where:
A = Primary attribute for the contest (ex. Cool)
B and C = Secondary attributes for the contest (ex. for Cool, these are Beauty and Tough)
F = Pokemon's feel

But if you meant in pokeblock, you divide the smooth of the berry by the number of used berry, then subtract the number of used berry, and you have the luster

Iridium

09-01-2007, 08:29 AM

Question:

What do Bitter, Sweet, Sour, Dry and Spicy stand for? I mean what attributes do they represent?

DarkGardevoir

09-01-2007, 08:32 AM

Question:

What do Bitter, Sweet, Sour, Dry and Spicy stand for? I mean what attributes do they represent?
Bitter, Sweet, Sour, Dry and Spicy are the flavour of a Berry.

bitter makes Smart attribute, Sweet makes Cute attribute, Sour makes Tough attribute, Dry makes Beauty attribute, Spicy make cool attribute.

Iridium

09-01-2007, 08:34 AM

Bitter, Sweet, Sour, Dry and Spicy are the flavour of a Berry.

bitter makes Smart attribute, Sweet makes Cute attribute, Sour makes Tough attribute, Dry makes Beauty attribute, Spicy make cool attribute.

Thanks DG, you really are great xD

DarkGardevoir

09-01-2007, 08:42 AM

Thanks DG, you really are great xD

it's nothing, seriously.

Ataro

09-01-2007, 11:40 AM

It's written somewhere there too. The luster is calculated by dividing it by 2 and adding it to the rest of stats,just like as if it was another secondary attribute(the 2 compatible with the contest primary attribute)

here's the equation

Equation = ((B+C+F)/2)+A
where:
A = Primary attribute for the contest (ex. Cool)
B and C = Secondary attributes for the contest (ex. for Cool, these are Beauty and Tough)
F = Pokemon's feel

But if you meant in pokeblock, you divide the smooth of the berry by the number of used berry, then subtract the number of used berry, and you have the luster

I do read the rules.

However, my manual calculations seems to vary from the end results you all provide.

I did all the equations said, and researched on it, but I can't find the problem.

Sometimes, it doesn't match. Like when 10/.8 = shouldn't it be 12.5? and rounded off to 12 cool?

Even when caclcuting luster, manual calculations normally have different with the automatic calculator.

I only managed to get some correct.

For this calculation you made in the Berry Store, link (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1627815&postcount=96)..., did you use manual or automatic?

Elrond

09-01-2007, 12:49 PM

I do read the rules.

However, my manual calculations seems to vary from the end results you all provide.

I did all the equations said, and researched on it, but I can't find the problem.

Sometimes, it doesn't match. Like when 10/.8 = shouldn't it be 12.5? and rounded off to 12 cool?

Even when caclcuting luster, manual calculations normally have different with the automatic calculator.

I only managed to get some correct.

For this calculation you made in the Berry Store, link (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1627815&postcount=96)..., did you use manual or automatic?

I believe it's supposed to be: multiply by .8.

Ataro

09-01-2007, 01:19 PM

I believe it's supposed to be: multiply by .8.

But if it's multiply, I believe all the calculations made in the Berry Store will all be wrong.

I choose to believe it's divide. XD

It is so that my manual workings are divide, and they matched Jack's first calculation in the BerrY Store. It's in page 2.

DarkGardevoir

09-02-2007, 08:15 AM

But if it's multiply, I believe all the calculations made in the Berry Store will all be wrong.

I choose to believe it's divide. XD

It is so that my manual workings are divide, and they matched Jack's first calculation in the BerrY Store. It's in page 2.

If you divide by .8, you'll get a greater number. If you multiply by .8, ytou'll get a lower number. And you have to get the lower number.

Mitsuzo-kun

09-02-2007, 10:11 AM

If you divide by .8, you'll get a greater number. If you multiply by .8, ytou'll get a lower number. And you have to get the lower number.

But you divide by .8, then round down. That's how you get the lower number. >_<

Elrond

09-02-2007, 12:25 PM

Ataro

09-02-2007, 04:36 PM

Jack of Clovers

09-07-2007, 05:46 AM

It appears the manual calculation is off. In my example at the Berry Store, division is needed to get the result from the Automatic Calculator. But using Nobody Nerd's blend as an example, multiplication was necessary. Yea, odd... :ermm:

So let's just use the Automatic Calculation for now until a better manual calculation can be made.

~Jack~

Mitsuzo-kun

09-09-2007, 09:01 AM

Come on, anyone who reads this! Join the Coordinator section! It's fun! :D

Ataro

09-09-2007, 11:34 PM

Come on, anyone who reads this! Join the Coordinator section! It's fun! :D

You should post this is the URPG Chat, more people will get to read. XD

And I don't think they might join unless DP is added...

Ataro

09-18-2007, 08:43 AM

Ataro

09-22-2007, 06:09 AM

A question.

Does the final results = Primary + Secondary

OR

(Primary/2) + Secondary

OR

(Primary*2) + Secondary

?

DarkGardevoir

09-22-2007, 04:18 PM

So are DP contests now implemented? DP super contests are the same as RSE, are they? Just no jams and combos, that's all for the difference correct?

|Air Slash| Cool | +2 | 0 |
If performed first, earns +6.

|Discharge| Cool | +2 | 0 |
If performed first, earns +6.

|Judgement| Smart | +2 | 0 |
Next turn order is randomized.

|Dark Void| Smart | +2 | 0 |
Can avoid being startled by others this turn.

|Seed Flare| Cool | +2 | 0 |
If Pokemon directly before User Pokemon got the crowd bonus, earns +5.

(Meaning the total appeal points without crowd bonus is +50)

*These are the moves missing from DP Moves List. I got the infos from Serebii and Legendary Pokemon (http://www.legendarypokemon.net/dp/attacks) and modified it a little to make it look adapted to RSE moves. Please add them in if you (Jack) agree.
Judgement gets a point more in RSE, or so do other randomizing moves. But, well, who has an arceus anyway?

And DP contests are not implemented yet, but jack should add those he didn't..
A question.

Does the final results = Primary + Secondary

OR

(Primary/2) + Secondary

OR

(Primary*2) + Secondary

?

The first method is right. Primary + Secondary = Final result

DarkGardevoir

11-22-2007, 03:14 PM

don't know how much people will care, but I'll just post it right here.

I've bought pearl. You may be saying, who cares?

Well, maybe you should, as contest really drew me in unlike ol' RSE's, they're a nice break from battles.

Anyway, Jack told me that if we could make DP contest rules work for URPG, he'd upgrade the rules, and super contests will have a different set of ribbons(possibly... we may have to discuss that) than RSE, meaning you can gain 2 different Master Rank Ribbons of the same attribute.

To my understanding, here's what DP contests should look like in URPG(of course, only the last part of super contests will be added, no way we can dress up our Pokemon and get more points for that, or dance):

1) Four turns of moves instead of five: some may like this, some not. However, it's a fact.
2) There are three fictional judges to appeal to. These won't be real people, just three unpictured names each contestant has to send moves to(they're different from URPG judges, you have to send the moves, for example, to me or Ataro, URPG judges, and in the move PM you say to which your move will be sent to. This may sound hard, but trust me, it's easier than you think. Let's say those three fictional judge's names are Pollon, Mr. Pickypants and Leaza, and I'm judging your super contest. You send me a PM with your move, saying if send it to Pollon, Pickypants or Leaza. P.S.: i chose three random names, you can make up your own ;p no default name or anything like that)
3) Each fictional judge has its own crowd meter, that like in RSE contests has 5 levels. No points are awarded by using same attribute move, unless the voltage of that judge is 5, which will grant 5 hearts and 50 points*. Voltage will still be raised by using same attribute moves.
4) At the end of the turn, the URPG judge will hand extra points basing on how many people appealed on each judge. Basically, if 2 people appealed on Leaza, one on Pollon and one on Mr. Pickypants, the first two will get 2 hearts, and the last two will get 3 hearts. If three people appealed on the same judge, they'll receive only 1 heart each, and if all four people appealed on the same judge, no point will be given.
5) After the first turn, the order of appeals will be from the lowest to the highest points( for example, Staravia has 50 Points, Floatzel 30, Pineco 10 and Wurmple 0, next round order will be: Wurmple first, Pineco 2nd, Floatzel 3rd and Staravia 4th)
6) No nervous status, but since the move effect changes in DP no real surprise at all

* = I'm unsure on how many points are handed when voltage reach 5, because I've seen it happening only once, however I'll check and tell you.

So, if you see any error about the rules, or I've forgot some rules, please post here, and comment would be nice. I know it may sound confusing, so ask me if you want to be clarified anything.

Ataro

11-22-2007, 03:27 PM

I think the 50 points for crowd maxed out applause is good enough. We shouldn't change it since we've all along followed 50 points.

DarkGardevoir

11-30-2007, 03:10 PM

:/ DP rules has arrived to an halt now, while playing I found out that voltage, when reaches five, allows either 50 or 80 points. Now, I don't know how this can happen, if it's a matter of moves or of the judges, but I intend to find it out.

In my pearl, the central judge awarded me with 80 Points when voltage reached five. Then, the judge to the right awarded to my opponent 50 point when her voltage maxed out.
In both cases, I was fifth place, while the other was at 1st or 2nd place when he got maxed out

However, in another contest I was second, and (don't remember which judge, probably the one on the right) awarded me 50 points, and I was last place.

I'm beginning to think that it's sorely based on the judges, which may be logical, but I'm not 100% sure, as those CPU-controlled coordinator never let me find out.

Ataro

11-30-2007, 03:59 PM

And besides, Wikipedia or Bulbapedia doesn't provide that info. :(

But when all is decided, can we have something like a test? Like how the test when contest was first introduced. You can find it on the last few pages of Forum Contests.

Jack of Clovers

12-21-2007, 05:16 AM

Ok, I updated the rules today with the new changes to the contest system. Check it out, comment. I'll try to add in the DP details and moves list within the next week and a half.

Also, was this announced... can't remember. I gave DarkGardevoir permission to be Head Judge for the Contest Boards.

~Jack~

Ataro

12-21-2007, 08:43 AM

Ok, I updated the rules today with the new changes to the contest system. Check it out, comment. I'll try to add in the DP details and moves list within the next week and a half.

Also, was this announced... can't remember. I gave DarkGardevoir permission to be Head Judge for the Contest Boards.

~Jack~

*Combo Moves: These are a pair of moves that a Pokemon uses consecutively. If used, the Pokemon will earn +6 Appeal Points plus the regular points for that turn.

Shouldn't this be changed after DG had verified it to be double the appeal point of the original appeal?

Jack of Clovers

12-22-2007, 04:58 AM

Oh, right. I was sure I missed something. Thanks.

~Jack~

umbreonandespeon

12-22-2007, 04:12 PM

Meh, Judges, after the new year I'll pick up the slack and do some judging. :)
I'll have a look at the changes, but I'll edit this post if I don't understand something.

EDIT: Judge Payroll? So how does the payment work then?

~U&E~

Ataro

01-18-2008, 02:59 AM

Items

$5,000 each

Cool Red Scarf
Beauty Blue Scarf
Cute Pink Scarf
Smart Green Scarf
Yellow Tough Scarf

*Scarves add +1 Heart and +20 to its attribute in the Primary Round.

1 heart? Meaning everytime the Pokemon makes an appeal, it gets one heart extra?

Also: I just realized the max luster is not only based on the luster, it actually means the total attributes of that Pokemon. So let's say if my Milotic have ate 2 Pokeblocks, each one has a Luster of 38, Beauty of 64, Cuteness of 25, and Beauty is maxed out already. Each attributes can only have a max of 125, so if both Pokeblocks adds up to a Beauty of 128, does the extra 3 counts in the total luster Milotic have?

DarkGardevoir

01-18-2008, 09:09 AM

1 heart? Meaning everytime the Pokemon makes an appeal, it gets one heart extra?

Also: I just realized the max luster is not only based on the luster, it actually means the total attributes of that Pokemon. So let's say if my Milotic have ate 2 Pokeblocks, each one has a Luster of 38, Beauty of 64, Cuteness of 25, and Beauty is maxed out already. Each attributes can only have a max of 125, so if both Pokeblocks adds up to a Beauty of 128, does the extra 3 counts in the total luster Milotic have?

Well, I've never had a scarf in game, I can't really know. But I usually just add the 20 point in the first round.

EDIT: ok, I don't know about the luster thing... RSE contests weren'te xactly my brand of specialization, because I've never been able to do the pokeblok i wanted...

AmericanTreeFrog

01-23-2008, 02:56 AM

Okay, we need to fix something. In the contests Pokemon have a chance to become nervous with certain moves. But the question is what is that chance? I have no idea but I guess it is around 50%.

Ataro

01-23-2008, 08:43 AM

Okay, we need to fix something. In the contests Pokemon have a chance to become nervous with certain moves. But the question is what is that chance? I have no idea but I guess it is around 50%.

There is. It's over here, at Contest Rules.

*Nervous: You Pokemon has a 60% chance not to make his/her appeal that turn. The more stars you have, the less Nervous you will be. 1 Star- 50% Nervous. 2 Star- 40% 3 Star- 30%

AmericanTreeFrog

01-23-2008, 06:19 PM

There is. It's over here, at Contest Rules.

I never noticed that. Thx.

Sith Lord

02-08-2008, 11:38 PM

i like contests so much all my pokemon have all the ribbons

Dark Lightning

02-09-2008, 12:10 PM

i like contests so much all my pokemon have all the ribbons
This is for the URPG Contests, not the game ones.

Oxygen

03-11-2008, 08:49 PM

How would I become a judge?

No1Inparticular

03-21-2008, 07:00 AM

Is There Is List Of What Moves Do In Contests,?

DarkGardevoir

03-21-2008, 08:37 AM

How would I become a judge?
So far, the contest quiz is still on hiatus. I think it's quite ready, but I don't know what to add to cover DP contests(plus, I should find a mod to edit it). Then, you'll simply have to judge a fake contest. Like a ref test, actually.
Is There Is List Of What Moves Do In Contests,?

In the contest result board:
RSE Contest Moves List (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26124)
DP moves, RSE style (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61269)

I should be working on a DP style list of moves, but meh, I always forget to.

No1Inparticular

03-21-2008, 09:02 PM

Thanks D.G, Now I Can Edit My Stats, And Start Co-Ordinating

Jack of Clovers

04-22-2008, 01:29 AM

I thought I had made the DP Contest updates back in Dec.... guess not. So it's done now, for the most part. Moved things around and combined posts. I can't find the DP style move list I probably wrote up... so I'll have to re-write it again.

I don't know why, but I'm in a contest mood right now. heh.

~Jack~

Pokol DaErran

08-05-2008, 11:06 PM

Another simple and probably answered question with example!
My Ralts has Cool 62/125, due to one very well blended Pokeblock. If I somehow mix a Pokeblock that increases Cool by 64 or more (which would make Cool higher than 125) can I not feed it to the Ralts, or would I be able to feed it the Pokeblock and it will just make Cool 125?

Ataro

08-06-2008, 01:22 PM

Another simple and probably answered question with example!
My Ralts has Cool 62/125, due to one very well blended Pokeblock. If I somehow mix a Pokeblock that increases Cool by 64 or more (which would make Cool higher than 125) can I not feed it to the Ralts, or would I be able to feed it the Pokeblock and it will just make Cool 125?

It'll just become maxed out at 125, meaning it will just make Cool 125.

ragnarok0422

08-30-2009, 07:44 AM

Can I suggest a Judging Encyclopedia here? So that people who wants to become a judge can look there for reference [ like me ]? xP

Because I find it hard that I have to research in different websites the different move lists in contests... xP

Ataro

08-30-2009, 01:14 PM

Can I suggest a Judging Encyclopedia here? So that people who wants to become a judge can look there for reference [ like me ]? xP

Because I find it hard that I have to research in different websites the different move lists in contests... xP

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80939
^ Information for RSE/DP contests (Including moves description)

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61269
^ DP moves information, for RSE contests

DarkGardevoir

09-08-2009, 09:43 AM

geez... I wonder who the hell made me do that...

Anyway, as proof I don't have a life I have time to waste I have time to waste and don't have a life, I've just revamped the Contest Moves List. I mean, I've made a new thread for the RSE-style moves list, with both the DP-original and the old ones. I know a list was there already, but A) it was split in two threads, and B) I found at least 3 moves missing from DP (that's not the point through)

My point is: this way, searching RSE moves will be easier.

(sidenote: I've changed the effect of a couple of DP moves as I saw fit, it's nothing major through)

If possible, I'd like it to be stickied, but not locked yet, as I need it as reference for the DP-style list I'm working on... which may or may not be done tomorrow/later. Honestly, doing only this list gave me an headache @.@

If you notice any error in the sinnoh-original moves (such as a different number of points awarded than a different move by the same effect) or you think some sinnoh moves should have a different effect, feel free to contact me or anyone who can make an edit.

This said, I think I'll go waste some of my brain cells on video games, thank you.

DarkGardevoir

09-10-2009, 10:17 AM

I hope this doesn't go unnoticed either, if else I'll be a sad panda.

I've finished the DP style list as well. If any of you is wondering- before you jump the shark unnecessarily- the moves that were missing from both of the old lists were Air Slash, Dark Void, Judgment, Seed Flare, Volt Tackle (from the RS list, or I missed it earlier), and X-Scissor. Yeah, most of those are pretty much useless and will never be used either, but coverage is important.

Anyway. I added quicklinks to either list, now waiting for somebody to sticky it and delete the old lists, which are now useless.

Now, on a more interesting note, I was thinkng of adding a new clause for URPG contests: Ability + Move combo.

I bet many of you have noticed how some Pokemon's ability work well with some moves. For example, Hyper Cutter would make moves such as Scratch, Cut, Slash work better, or Own Tempo having sinergy with moves such as Calm Mind or Zen Headbutt... and stuff like that.

I was thinking of adding this stuff in as a clause. At the beginning of the contest, you state the Ability of your Pokemon, and then if you use moves that go well with that ability, you earn an additional +1 appeal point. What do you think?

Ataro

09-11-2009, 09:55 AM

[SIZE="1"]Now, on a more interesting note, I was thinkng of adding a new clause for URPG contests: Ability + Move combo.

I bet many of you have noticed how some Pokemon's ability work well with some moves. For example, Hyper Cutter would make moves such as Scratch, Cut, Slash work better, or Own Tempo having sinergy with moves such as Calm Mind or Zen Headbutt... and stuff like that.

I was thinking of adding this stuff in as a clause. At the beginning of the contest, you state the Ability of your Pokemon, and then if you use moves that go well with that ability, you earn an additional +1 appeal point. What do you think?

Sure, but it should always be remained as a clause and we need a list as well.

Brit134444

09-12-2009, 01:41 AM

I would love to do a Cute Contest with any four people! My Miltank craves the spotlight!

Dragoness

09-13-2009, 05:56 PM

I hope this doesn't go unnoticed either, if else I'll be a sad panda.

I've finished the DP style list as well. If any of you is wondering- before you jump the shark unnecessarily- the moves that were missing from both of the old lists were Air Slash, Dark Void, Judgment, Seed Flare, Volt Tackle (from the RS list, or I missed it earlier), and X-Scissor. Yeah, most of those are pretty much useless and will never be used either, but coverage is important.

Anyway. I added quicklinks to either list, now waiting for somebody to sticky it and delete the old lists, which are now useless.

Now, on a more interesting note, I was thinkng of adding a new clause for URPG contests: Ability + Move combo.

I bet many of you have noticed how some Pokemon's ability work well with some moves. For example, Hyper Cutter would make moves such as Scratch, Cut, Slash work better, or Own Tempo having sinergy with moves such as Calm Mind or Zen Headbutt... and stuff like that.

I was thinking of adding this stuff in as a clause. At the beginning of the contest, you state the Ability of your Pokemon, and then if you use moves that go well with that ability, you earn an additional +1 appeal point. What do you think?

I think it is a good idea. Like you said, a clause people can use to get more points if they do their research. It'll take a lot of work, but good idea. I don't think it'll give anyone an unfair advantage or anything, so full speed ahead!

DarkGardevoir

09-15-2009, 04:53 PM

I'd still like some more opinions on that thing, but now I have more important news:

1) New Judge Quiz, featuring DP questions and a couple of scenarios, if you want to become a contest judge

2) Round of applauses for Ataro and AmericanTreeFrog, who have been promoted to judge testers. If you want, you can annoy either of them to analyze your quiz :x

Dragoness

09-17-2009, 04:46 AM

I'd still like some more opinions on that thing, but now I have more important news:

1) New Judge Quiz, featuring DP questions and a couple of scenarios, if you want to become a contest judge

2) Round of applauses for Ataro and AmericanTreeFrog, who have been promoted to judge testers. If you want, you can annoy either of them to analyze your quiz :x
Grats! Ataro and AFT! Now I know who to send my application to! After I actually complete said quiz.

And I have a question: how many times can you use a scarf? I thought it was unlimited, but to be on the safe side...

DarkGardevoir

09-17-2009, 05:04 AM

Grats! Ataro and AFT! Now I know who to send my application to! After I actually complete said quiz.

And I have a question: how many times can you use a scarf? I thought it was unlimited, but to be on the safe side...

scarf = hold item. So yeah, it's infinite + one

Brit134444

09-20-2009, 06:42 PM

Hey, um, I cannot find the place where you can see the Moves and what they do, so can somebody help!:oops:

DarkGardevoir

09-20-2009, 07:21 PM

Hey, um, I cannot find the place where you can see the Moves and what they do, so can somebody help!:oops:

They're in the Contest: Results boards. Two lists of moves, one for RS-style, the other for ÐP-style

Keion

10-03-2009, 07:16 AM

Where do you find the ribbon sprites? I found it somewhere sometime, and now I lost it XP

~Medz~

DarkGardevoir

10-03-2009, 07:29 AM

Where do you find the ribbon sprites? I found it somewhere sometime, and now I lost it XP

~Medz~

in the Conter Rules: READ FIRST thread.

DarkGardevoir

10-27-2009, 06:39 PM

So I heard ATF tried to host a contest FFA without existing rules. That's good to hear, that he has initiative, however I think we need a little regulations on this stuff. Therefore, I've thought of something like this, regarding FFA contests. Remember, this might or might not be subject to changes, as I'm asking for some feedback here, so please, please, PLEASE give some.

Anyway, here's the deal. First, the problems I'd find in hosting such a contest.

1) How one would decide the type of contest FFA. Since it's not always that easy to find 4 people to join the same type of contest, finding more people to do it might be way harder.

2) How to award prizes. Since it'd be a special contest, like battle FFAs are special battles, I don't think the normal rules should apply. The money prize we can leech off the battle FFA, but awarding ribbons and berries is trickier.

I thought of solving it more or less like this.

Contest FFAs won't have one attribute. It will change every turn, or every number of turns, so as to give the ability to everyone to partecipate in. If, however, the attribute changes every turn, it means that the contest has to be Advanced, and that the Pokemon can use every move it learns.

The number of turns the contest lasts should be more, maybe 5 or any multiple of it- possibly a multiple, since we're having more people in.

As for the prizes, the money system can be the same as FFAs with a little tweak. However, ribbons are another story. Since the contest wouldn't have only one attribute, the winner would have to be able to choose the type of ribbon he wants. Berries might or might not be involved, I don't have an opinion on this, it's the same for me, but giving a ribbon only to who scores first place is a little depressing.... Ok, i know tht that's how tournament and contests actually works, but this is a special one- and in tournaments, at least second and third place get a prize too. Perhaps (number of contestants/3) place get the ribbon?

To make it clearer. Say 8 people enter the FFA contest. 8/3 is roughly 2,6, so barring decimals the first 2 places get a ribbon.

AmericanTreeFrog

11-03-2009, 06:42 PM

Being a judge I guess I should place my input on a few items.

For the ability idea, I think we could try it in the future, but I don't think now would be a good time. Not enough people actively particpate in contests, and as Ataro stated we would need to construct a list. But, I'll make a list of the abilities and send it to you.

1) It can be tough finding enough people to do one contest, so I can see having more than one attribute for a single big contest. I think the type should change every two or four moves, this allows for setting up combos and allows greater flexibility.

For the rounds I am thinking between 6 - 10, it really depends on when the type would change mid-way through the contest. Instead of knowing all moves, how about a set of four per type round? Just like the current system, this would just be for a normal rank, on higher levels we can do all known moves.

2) For the money, I agree. We can just keep it simple and draw off the battle system. For ribbons, I agree except on one thing, maybe every foour people instead of 3? 8/4 = 2 people with a ribbon, this just follows along with the ingame system, I don't see a need to change it.

I also feel berries should be allowed, it boosts activity and it can help the battle section, so the bottom two can get a .5k credit, and we can just do tiers for the othe participants.

1 - 2 = 2k berry
3 - 4 = 1.5k berry
4 - 6 = 1k berry
7 -8 = .5k berry

And what about a berry credit? By this I mean instead of just picking a berry, they would put the credits in their stats, to record them, and when they get enough to make a purchase in the berry store, they can use the credits. Say a scarf or one of the more expensive berries like the Yache, which is important in battling.

Example: person get lasts and earns a 500 credit. They then win 2 contests. Bringing their credits up, now they can afford a battle berry, instead of picking a Lum or just a berry for a block. This could be a hassle to implement and keep track of, that's why I'm only asking for opinions on this area.

That's all for now, my class starts soon, and I need to finish the homework. And remember, for mine and DG's sake, FEEDBACK WOULD BE NICE.. Unless you are just not that into contests :}

Ataro

11-04-2009, 03:16 AM

I'm in full support of the berry credits ATF suggested.

DarkGardevoir

11-05-2009, 08:34 AM

Being a judge I guess I should place my input on a few items.

For the ability idea, I think we could try it in the future, but I don't think now would be a good time. Not enough people actively particpate in contests, and as Ataro stated we would need to construct a list. But, I'll make a list of the abilities and send it to you.
I figured it'd take a while to be implemented- and I haven't worked on it either. But I wanted to ahve an input as to what people would and wouldn't like.

1) It can be tough finding enough people to do one contest, so I can see having more than one attribute for a single big contest. I think the type should change every two or four moves, this allows for setting up combos and allows greater flexibility.

For the rounds I am thinking between 6 - 10, it really depends on when the type would change mid-way through the contest. Instead of knowing all moves, how about a set of four per type round? Just like the current system, this would just be for a normal rank, on higher levels we can do all known moves.
Wouldn't choosing only four moves every 2 turns be just more of a problems for judges to keep track?

I guess it doesn't hurt to do it, though- if the FFAs have 10 rounds, and the attribute changes every 2 rounds (each attribute occuring only once) then changing moves as well every 2 turns sounds fair. I think that the change in moves should take place before the announcement of the new type... Dunno why, I just feel like making it hard for the contestants.

2) For the money, I agree. We can just keep it simple and draw off the battle system. For ribbons, I agree except on one thing, maybe every foour people instead of 3? 8/4 = 2 people with a ribbon, this just follows along with the ingame system, I don't see a need to change it.

I said contestants/3 thinking that the minimun of people in the FFA would be 6, thereby giving anyway a ribbon to the first and second places. However, contestants/4 works just as good to me.

I also feel berries should be allowed, it boosts activity and it can help the battle section, so the bottom two can get a .5k credit, and we can just do tiers for the othe participants.

1 - 2 = 2k berry
3 - 4 = 1.5k berry
4 - 6 = 1k berry
7 -8 = .5k berry

And what about a berry credit? By this I mean instead of just picking a berry, they would put the credits in their stats, to record them, and when they get enough to make a purchase in the berry store, they can use the credits. Say a scarf or one of the more expensive berries like the Yache, which is important in battling.

Example: person get lasts and earns a 500 credit. They then win 2 contests. Bringing their credits up, now they can afford a battle berry, instead of picking a Lum or just a berry for a block. This could be a hassle to implement and keep track of, that's why I'm only asking for opinions on this area.

The berry credit sounds good, why didn't I think of it?

That's all for now, my class starts soon, and I need to finish the homework. And remember, for mine and DG's sake, FEEDBACK WOULD BE NICE.. Unless you are just not that into contests :}

KantoChamp46

11-06-2009, 04:39 AM

Being a judge I guess I should place my input on a few items.

For the ability idea, I think we could try it in the future, but I don't think now would be a good time. Not enough people actively particpate in contests, and as Ataro stated we would need to construct a list. But, I'll make a list of the abilities and send it to you.

1) It can be tough finding enough people to do one contest, so I can see having more than one attribute for a single big contest. I think the type should change every two or four moves, this allows for setting up combos and allows greater flexibility.

For the rounds I am thinking between 6 - 10, it really depends on when the type would change mid-way through the contest. Instead of knowing all moves, how about a set of four per type round? Just like the current system, this would just be for a normal rank, on higher levels we can do all known moves.

2) For the money, I agree. We can just keep it simple and draw off the battle system. For ribbons, I agree except on one thing, maybe every foour people instead of 3? 8/4 = 2 people with a ribbon, this just follows along with the ingame system, I don't see a need to change it.

I also feel berries should be allowed, it boosts activity and it can help the battle section, so the bottom two can get a .5k credit, and we can just do tiers for the othe participants.

1 - 2 = 2k berry
3 - 4 = 1.5k berry
4 - 6 = 1k berry
7 -8 = .5k berry

And what about a berry credit? By this I mean instead of just picking a berry, they would put the credits in their stats, to record them, and when they get enough to make a purchase in the berry store, they can use the credits. Say a scarf or one of the more expensive berries like the Yache, which is important in battling.

Example: person get lasts and earns a 500 credit. They then win 2 contests. Bringing their credits up, now they can afford a battle berry, instead of picking a Lum or just a berry for a block. This could be a hassle to implement and keep track of, that's why I'm only asking for opinions on this area.

That's all for now, my class starts soon, and I need to finish the homework. And remember, for mine and DG's sake, FEEDBACK WOULD BE NICE.. Unless you are just not that into contests :}

Agree with all of the above. Seriously. I love the Ability + Move stuff, though, yeah, contests are kind of not active enough for that right now. That's why I started doing contests, though - to make them more active! :)

Everything else for the FFAs sounds awesome. Looks like the contests are in good hands with you guys, though I'll keep my eyes on this thread and speak my mind when it seems relevant. And thanks ATF for bringing all of this to my attention. :)

Ataro

11-06-2009, 07:31 AM

Are forum contest FFAs allowed?

AmericanTreeFrog

11-06-2009, 08:07 PM

Are forum contest FFAs allowed?

I think they are, but I believe all contest ffas are on hiatus until the rules and other issues get worked out, that's why I haven't done a second myself.

HKim

11-08-2009, 06:07 AM

I think they are, but I believe all contest ffas are on hiatus until the rules and other issues get worked out, that's why I haven't done a second myself.

Indeed. I believe DG is handling that. Let's all bug him for the FFA rules!

DarkGardevoir

11-08-2009, 12:16 PM

Ugh. Sorry. I still need to write down the rules, and find someone to put it somewhere in the rules, but other than that the stuff's ready... Whenever I find the time to put it. Sorry.

I would need a clone to do all the stuff i want to -.- stupid me. I'll come back at you ASAP.

And yes, Forum FFAs will be allowed.

Dragoness

11-12-2009, 08:22 AM

And yes, Forum FFAs will be allowed.

Sounds good =) It will take a while to finish them, of course, but at least their be available to those who wish to do FFAs. I wish AIM contests were more active, but people seem to be more interested in just doin' a forum one instead.

Ataro

11-19-2009, 04:09 AM

Sec is our newest judge! Let us welcome him to the team. ^_^

Sec

11-29-2009, 04:17 PM

Hey guys, little question!
I saw that there are berries in the shop that can be used in battles, but can holdable berries that aren't in that list(like Oran and Lum) still be used in battle? Also, are held berries one time use or multiple use?

AmericanTreeFrog

11-29-2009, 11:18 PM

Yes Lum can be used in battles, the other berries are special in that they reduce special effective damage.

And berries are one use.

DarkGardevoir

01-04-2010, 05:39 PM

I've finally added the "Festival" rules in the All about Contest thread. Yes, those are the Forum FFA contests.

Most of the regulations are in the All About Contests thread (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80939), while the rest of the rules concerning Judges can be found in the Jury of Judges thread (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26123)

If you find something amiss, please tell me. If you think the rules should be different, tell me as well, or, even better, post here to discuss about it.

Next in this board, I'll be setting up a feedback thread for the Ability/Move combo, where you can point out any combo you don't see there, as it's helpful since I'm only human, therefore my creativity is limited.

[rant mode]
It really sucks not being able to edit things myself, but it's not that big of a deal since there aren't many major changes I'll have to do. It'd be easier to do it for the minor stuff, but I'll have to endure this until this section gets a stable flux of activity.

So, people, force other people to join this section. Like, now!!!111!!1one!1eleven!!

just kidding :tongue2: though, if you really do it, I won't complain.

Many thanks to Jess aka Dog of Hellsing for being my editing slave very understanding of my situation, and helping me with the adding of stuff.

Sec

01-05-2010, 02:05 AM

:o yay, I've been waiting to do contest ffas! ^__^
I've got quite a few questions for ya DG, do festival contests have to take place onthe forums? Which ribbon is given out since all attributes are being used, and how does payment and berries for these things work? Also, how do we go about organizing these? Does the judge make the thread and then let people join as a ref would for a ffa or do the participants settle it before hand? I had one more but now I lost it xD I'll ask later when I remember.

DarkGardevoir

01-05-2010, 06:06 AM

:o yay, I've been waiting to do contest ffas! ^__^
I've got quite a few questions for ya DG, do festival contests have to take place onthe forums? Which ribbon is given out since all attributes are being used, and how does payment and berries for these things work? Also, how do we go about organizing these? Does the judge make the thread and then let people join as a ref would for a ffa or do the participants settle it before hand? I had one more but now I lost it xD I'll ask later when I remember.

Right, I forgot to addo those, sorry. Thanks for telling.

The Festivals don't have to be forum only, it's just that I answered to what Ataro said earlier.

Since the Festivals don't have one attibute, the winner can choose the type of ribbon they want. However, the Rank is to be stated in the rules, and you cannot choose a ribbon you don't have the lower version of (for example, in a Super Festival Contest, you can't choose a Super Cool ribbon unless you have a Normal Cool ribbon).

Payment (i knew I was forgetting something -.-) is similiar to FFA: last 3 places get 1000$, then each place up gets 500$ more, with the Judge getting 500$ more than first place.

I haven't figured out if to give berries to the people who partake in this, so I'm not sure how to calculated how they would be handled.

Yes, the judge can start one himself and make people join, or the users can convince a judge to make one if they so wish.

Think I covere everything. Now to find a Mod to edit that new stuff in -.-

Sequentio

01-26-2010, 03:09 AM

I have a question. :D
So I'm a new coordinater, which entitles me to 5k in free berries.
However, I would like to blend 5.6k worth of berries. Would it be possible to claim 5.6k worth if I actually paid the remaining 600 so they could all be blended in the Starting Coordinators board? :o

DarkGardevoir

01-26-2010, 06:54 AM

I have a question. :D
So I'm a new coordinater, which entitles me to 5k in free berries.
However, I would like to blend 5.6k worth of berries. Would it be possible to claim 5.6k worth if I actually paid the remaining 600 so they could all be blended in the Starting Coordinators board? :o

Yes, you can.

Also, I forogt to say it, but Berry Credit has been implemented. WHen you partecipate in a contest, you get some credit to spend in the berry store and buy anything you like. This credit can be saved up to get better things.

DarkGardevoir

01-27-2010, 06:12 PM

Double post!

i should probably do a thread about major edits or something...

Anyway. To thin the list of stickies a little, I've just merged the Contest Rules and the All About Contests threads- now they're one and the same, and I've satisfied the tildephile in me.

See the new thread for yourself (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103886)

Also, thanks for BlueJello for the banner. If somebody wants to help, the Contest Section is in dire need of banners.

Ok, not dire. But they look cool. Flashy. Sassy. And we're all about those things, aren't we? So yeah, Banners are welcomed.

As of now, I was thinking one would be good for the Jury of Judges thread, and maybe for the 2 Moves Lists- though i'm not sure about the last ones. Better go only with the Jury of Judges one, k?

Shock64

02-09-2010, 05:48 PM

A few questions, before I join.

One, is the only reason I don't see many posts specifying which judge the Pokemon's targeting because most people do R/S?

Two, you use URPG cash to pay for this, yes?

Three, do your must your Pokemon have four definite moves for use in EVERY contest, or can you choose a different four-move moveset every time you enter a new contest?

Four, you can use as many of your Pokemon as you want, correct?

And five,
Also, thanks for BlueJello for the banner. If somebody wants to help, the Contest Section is in dire need of banners.

Ok, not dire. But they look cool. Flashy. Sassy. And we're all about those things, aren't we? So yeah, Banners are welcomed.

I could make some banners, on account of my having no life. Get me on AIM or PM, if you'd like to tell me what you would want. I'd prefer AIM, though. xP

Iridium

02-10-2010, 07:05 AM

A few questions, before I join.

One, is the only reason I don't see many posts specifying which judge the Pokemon's targeting because most people do R/S?

Two, you use URPG cash to pay for this, yes?

Three, do your must your Pokemon have four definite moves for use in EVERY contest, or can you choose a different four-move moveset every time you enter a new contest?

Four, you can use as many of your Pokemon as you want, correct?

And five,

I could make some banners, on account of my having no life. Get me on AIM or PM, if you'd like to tell me what you would want. I'd prefer AIM, though. xP

Weird, the forum says DG posted last...

One: Yes, most people prefer RS.
Two: Yep, you use URPG Cash, this is part of the URPG, isn't it? :tongue:
Three: Nope, you can choose different moves every time you enter a new contest, but you can't change in between a contest.
Four: Yes, you're free to use as many Pokemon you want, but only one in a contest, though you knew that obviously :tongue:
Five: Talk to DG for that :o

DarkGardevoir

02-10-2010, 05:30 PM

BlueJello is our newer Judge! Congratulate him!

DarkGardevoir

02-18-2010, 05:46 PM

Shock64 passed his Judge quiz. Congratulate.

Iridium

02-19-2010, 04:04 AM

BlueJello is our newer Judge! Congratulate him!

Shock64 passed his Judge quiz. Congratulate.

Congrats to both of you!

BlueJello

02-20-2010, 04:47 PM

Shock64 passed his Judge quiz. Congratulate.

Congrats dude! I knew you had a flare for it. ;)

Ataro

02-21-2010, 07:16 AM

Yet another judgeeeeeeeeeeeeee. WHAT IS THIS!?

Ragnarok0422 have achieved Judge status now. Let's welcome him into reviving this once dead board.

ragnarok0422

02-21-2010, 10:46 PM

Question:

For example:

Espeon used Sand Attack on turn 3, so calc turns and stuff.

Next turn Espeon used Sand Attack again... that deducts -20, right?

I'm arguing over a judges about this fact, they say it's just -10 and not -20... someone clear this up, please? :3

BlueJello

02-21-2010, 10:53 PM

Question:

For example:

Espeon used Sand Attack on turn 3, so calc turns and stuff.

Next turn Espeon used Sand Attack again... that deducts -20, right?

I'm arguing over two judges about this fact, they say it's just -10 and not -20... someone clear this up, please? :3

It's -20.

Source?: DG did it in a contest I was in. DON'T QUESTION THE HEAD JUDGE!

That is all.

DarkGardevoir

02-22-2010, 05:10 AM

Yea, it's -20. I should probably make it clearer when I get the chance >.<

Shock64

02-22-2010, 05:16 AM

Hey, um, just a quick question. Maybe... should you make the Judge Quiz a bit harder? Because now lots of people wanna be judges because they heard the Quiz is easy. Maybe put some questions that can't be looked up or make the pass grade higher? I dunno, it's just that you could get judges that don't know anything and passed by looking stuff up. :ermm:

Dog of Hellsing

02-22-2010, 01:24 PM

Meh, I'm not sure the Quiz is as easy as some people would have it be thought. I mean sure, compared to like the Ref Quiz it might be easy, but then again so are the Ranger and Grader quizzes. Anyways, you can't just pick up Judging until you understand the basics, and for that you need to at least take part in some Contests. It's not to hard once you get the hang of it, really, so I don't see a need to make the Quiz impossible to pass or anything lol.

At any rate, if any of the current Judges were doing a bad job because they breezed through an incompetent test, it seems DG or someone would have made it harder to begin with. But since there don't seem to be a large number of phail-Judges, it doesn't seem like the system needs fixing. Of course, there is a very small number of active Judges at the moment, and we won't really know for certain if the quiz is indeed letting incompetent Judges get passed until we get a larger number of Judges to base that on.

I understand you're wanting to keep that from becoming the issue, but for now, it seems silly to make the Quiz harder. Also keep in mind that there are so few Judges to begin with. True, Contests are probably the least active section of the URPG, but if you make it too hard for people to become Judges, the Judging team will take all the longer to expand. If more Judges pass, there's a chance the Contest section will become more active. It seems to me it was so inactive to begin with because there were so few active Judges around. If we have more Judges perhaps more people will get interested (especially since new Judges could spread the word around to other people and get them to take part). Making the quiz harder at this stage would prevent that new recruitment, or at least make it take a lot longer.

I know that the last thing we want is a giant herd of Judges who don't know what they're doing, but like I said, so far the Judges seem competent, and so I think the Quiz is fine for now. Leave it be, let more people become Judges, and maybe this section will one day become a rival with the Battles section in terms of activity.

*Goes and dies from long post.*

Ataro

02-23-2010, 04:38 PM

I've actually been meaning to edit the quiz a couple of weeks ago already. Reason being, the one that we have now currently is a little easy indeed (last question), thanks to me being lazy the other time.

While most of what TT said is true; there aren't many judges and as such, this was also the reason why DG and I felt that a "Judge Test" wasn't really needed. Thus, passing the standards of pass that we set is enough for you to be an official judge. In fact, by looking up for the answers yourself, I believe that goes to show that you actually know how things work, where to find answers and so, this prevents judges from not knowing anything and passed just by looking things up.

I believe Judge Testers have the capability to fail someone if he feels that he is not good enough anyway. That said, the Judge Quiz is updated now. Mostly just a couple of new questions, and the battle scenarios are improved. Of course, if you haven't passed the quiz and am still trying for Judge status, you'd be required to do the new questions as well.

Just fyi, you said lots of people want to become judges now since the quiz was easy apparently, but we only have a few new judges. Goes to show how easy the quiz really is. Besides, DG mentioned before that judging really isn't that complicated at all, it is rather simple in fact. So if we were to up the difficulty still, this goes to show how over-demanding we are.

DarkGardevoir

02-23-2010, 05:57 PM

I've actually been meaning to edit the quiz a couple of weeks ago already. Reason being, the one that we have now currently is a little easy indeed (last question), thanks to me being lazy the other time.

While most of what TT said is true; there aren't many judges and as such, this was also the reason why DG and I felt that a "Judge Test" wasn't really needed. Thus, passing the standards of pass that we set is enough for you to be an official judge. In fact, by looking up for the answers yourself, I believe that goes to show that you actually know how things work, where to find answers and so, this prevents judges from not knowing anything and passed just by looking things up.

I believe Judge Testers have the capability to fail someone if he feels that he is not good enough anyway. That said, the Judge Quiz is updated now. Mostly just a couple of new questions, and the battle scenarios are improved. Of course, if you haven't passed the quiz and am still trying for Judge status, you'd be required to do the new questions as well.

Just fyi, you said lots of people want to become judges now since the quiz was easy apparently, but we only have a few new judges. Goes to show how easy the quiz really is. Besides, DG mentioned before that judging really isn't that complicated at all, it is rather simple in fact. So if we were to up the difficulty still, this goes to show how over-demanding we are.

Keeping on topic, Bluejello managed to fail his test twice, before getting it right (though the moves list has some odd wording)

Also, Dog of Hellsing, Eeveedude and Pokemon Partner are now judges. Congratulate. They did the "old" quiz, but I don't feel like making them redo the ol' questions and do the new one.

BlueJello

02-23-2010, 07:02 PM

Keeping on topic, Bluejello managed to fail his test twice, before getting it right (though the moves list has some odd wording)

Also, Dog of Hellsing, Eeveedude and Pokemon Partner are now judges. Congratulate. They did the "old" quiz, but I don't feel like making them redo the ol' questions and do the new one.

Hey, didn't need to announce my failures! xD

Congrats you guys. I'll take full credit for getting you into contests. *Shot*

luke39

02-23-2010, 07:10 PM

Congrats DoH PP & Eeveedude. Do good work!

Also 1 question. If last night in Australia time I sent my Old Judge Quiz to Ataro and he said he would mark it. But he didn't know the new Quiz was out yet. So if I fail do I have to go do the new test or old test?

Dog of Hellsing

02-23-2010, 07:24 PM

Thanks guys, I'll do my best ^^. Now to go lurk around the Coordinator Station like some creepy pedo-bear lol. And also the Forum Contests board in general, like some creepy psycho-stalker ex-girlfriend XD.

Ataro

02-24-2010, 09:02 AM

Congrats DoH PP & Eeveedude. Do good work!

Also 1 question. If last night in Australia time I sent my Old Judge Quiz to Ataro and he said he would mark it. But he didn't know the new Quiz was out yet. So if I fail do I have to go do the new test or old test?

Yes you have to. Considering the standard that you gave me, I'd advise you strongly to either take it seriously or don't do it at all. :/

Eeveedude

02-26-2010, 03:35 PM

SUGGESTION: I think that the payout for higher ranked contests should be higher (Possibly 500 higher each rank?). It would encourage those who only do contests for money to actually pursue higher ranked contests than Normal.

Shock64

02-27-2010, 01:52 AM

SUGGESTION: I think that the payout for higher ranked contests should be higher (Possibly 500 higher each rank?). It would encourage those who only do contests for money to actually pursue higher ranked contests than Normal.

I absolutely agree with this. Just sayin'.

Kirethidae

02-27-2010, 02:05 AM

I also agree with this but I think that if this is to be put into effect, I reckon that the pay for Normal Rank contests should go down and then have the pay go up in §500 increments as the Contest Rank goes up.

As it is, contests pay pretty gewd as it is, and if this is to keep increasing with the ranks, then I think the pay will get a bit too good to be completely honest.

sheepskinfuton

02-27-2010, 02:53 AM

I also agree with this but I think that if this is to be put into effect, I reckon that the pay for Normal Rank contests should go down and then have the pay go up in §500 increments as the Contest Rank goes up.

As it is, contests pay pretty gewd as it is, and if this is to keep increasing with the ranks, then I think the pay will get a bit too good to be completely honest.

I dislike this, cause I never win contests and I'd like to have something to make it worth wasting what can be up to an hour and a half. D:

Kirethidae

02-27-2010, 09:46 AM

I dislike this, cause I never win contests and I'd like to have something to make it worth wasting what can be up to an hour and a half. D:

Yeah, I get that, but you also get 500CC, and it takes very little effort really.
You send your 'Mons, and then you have to only type one word every ten minutes aroundabout.

I know nobody's going to like a money decrease, but I still think that it would be better if money started increasing up the ranks.

BlueJello

02-27-2010, 11:01 AM

Yeah, I get that, but you also get 500CC, and it takes very little effort really.
You send your 'Mons, and then you have to only type one word every ten minutes aroundabout.

I know nobody's going to like a money decrease, but I still think that it would be better if money started increasing up the ranks.

I think the money should stay at it is regardless of rank. Once four people get to the Master Rank, they'd win 3k. Then they'd just spam that for money with, as you say, very little effort.

Ataro

02-27-2010, 11:14 AM

I think the money should stay at it is regardless of rank. Once four people get to the Master Rank, they'd win 3k. Then they'd just spam that for money with, as you say, very little effort.

Like what Kirethidae and BlueJello pointed out, the payouts are already very good currently. And if people still want increased payouts, I'm afraid contests will be really pointless then. It will just be another cheap money making abuse.

BlueJello

02-27-2010, 11:38 AM

Like what Kirethidae and BlueJello pointed out, the payouts are already very good currently. And if people still want increased payouts, I'm afraid contests will be really pointless then. It will just be another cheap money making abuse.

Add to that the fact that 1st place winners get more than the judge already anyway, then you'd probably have to increase pay for judges. Which, again, I don't see happening.

Eeveedude

03-01-2010, 11:03 PM

In reading the "All About Contests thread, there are a few mistakes. unless they are recent changes. >.>

*Attribute: Cool, Cute, Tough, Smart, and Beauty. Attributes can only be raised up to Luster level 225.
*Luster: The Feel level of the Pokeblock. The max Luster for all Pokemon is 225.

I believe the 225 in both cases should be a 255.

*Crowd Meter: This is raised and lowered depending on the contest type, and which move was used. If a Pokemon raises the meter to the 5th level, that Pokemon gains +6 Appeal Points. The Meter is reset after that.

I'm pretty sure, it should be +5 Appeal Points...

If I'm wrong, then sorry. :oops:

Dog of Hellsing

03-02-2010, 06:32 PM

Also, I believe that thread should be edited to make it clear that number of Hearts determines next turn order, and THEN number of Appeal Points if Hearts are tied. As it is now it's not very clear.

Also, I feel the Contest Moves list for RS should be edited to make it clear when a move Startles/makes Nervous only one Mon or all of them. Here's a quick list to show what I mean.

Some moves specify what Pokemon are affected:

|Earth Power| Smart | +1 | -3 |
Startles Pokemon that performed directly before User.

| Extrasensory | Cool | +1 | -4 |
Startles the Pokemon that appealed directly before user.

| Earthquake | Tough | +1 | -3 |
Startles all the Pokemon that appealed before user.

Then there are the moves that are vague:

| Encore | Cute | +2 | 0 |
Makes the Pokemon after user Nervous.

See the problem? Encore doesn't specify exactly which Pokemon after the user are made Nervous; is it all of them, or the one directly under? Moves like Encore should be edited to specify exactly which Mon are targeted, because otherwise it can get confusing.

luke39

03-10-2010, 07:10 AM

Just wondering. Is there a fail limit to the Judge Quiz or anything? Also will there be like a test or something? Just wondering. I want to try and make Contests a bit more popular. I sent my Judge Quiz of to the markers and waiting patiently and hoping that I got it right!

Shock64

03-10-2010, 07:41 PM

Just wondering. Is there a fail limit to the Judge Quiz or anything? Also will there be like a test or something? Just wondering. I want to try and make Contests a bit more popular. I sent my Judge Quiz of to the markers and waiting patiently and hoping that I got it right!

There is not a Judge Quiz, but if you are able to fail more than once, maybe you should wait a while until you take it again. Or just don't. That's just my opinion.

luke39

03-10-2010, 07:45 PM

Ok well I did the Judge Quiz and now waiting. So hopefully...?

sheepskinfuton

03-10-2010, 08:45 PM

Also, I believe that thread should be edited to make it clear that number of Hearts determines next turn order, and THEN number of Appeal Points if Hearts are tied. As it is now it's not very clear.

Also, I feel the Contest Moves list for RS should be edited to make it clear when a move Startles/makes Nervous only one Mon or all of them. Here's a quick list to show what I mean.

Some moves specify what Pokemon are affected:

|Earth Power| Smart | +1 | -3 |
Startles Pokemon that performed directly before User.

| Extrasensory | Cool | +1 | -4 |
Startles the Pokemon that appealed directly before user.

| Earthquake | Tough | +1 | -3 |
Startles all the Pokemon that appealed before user.

Then there are the moves that are vague:

| Encore | Cute | +2 | 0 |
Makes the Pokemon after user Nervous.

See the problem? Encore doesn't specify exactly which Pokemon after the user are made Nervous; is it all of them, or the one directly under? Moves like Encore should be edited to specify exactly which Mon are targeted, because otherwise it can get confusing.
I always thought Encore was only the Pokemon directly after the user, but every time I use that move in a contest I always end up arguing with the judge over how it's supposed to work, and they always use it on all the Pokemon.

@Eeveedude- Yeah, that +6 thing threw me off when I went to take my judge quiz. *coughcough* DG please look at it it's been like three weeks *cough cough*

Shock64

03-10-2010, 08:50 PM

Is there some way that a mod (like DG or Jess) could PM me the code for the moveset thread (the R/S one)? Please? =P

Since I'm not a mod, I can't edit DG's post, but I sure that, with some dedication, I could revise the moveset thread better and no one will be confused anymore.

sheepskinfuton

03-10-2010, 10:52 PM

Is there some way that a mod (like DG or Jess) could PM me the code for the moveset thread (the R/S one)? Please? =P

Since I'm not a mod, I can't edit DG's post, but I sure that, with some dedication, I could revise the moveset thread better and no one will be confused anymore.

You could always try quoting it.

That's a good idea though.

Shock64

03-10-2010, 10:55 PM

You could always try quoting it.

That's a good idea though.

I can't. The threads are locked. I need one of them to go in, mod-edit the post, copy it, and send the code to me. I can't, otherwise. =/

And thanks. x3

DarkGardevoir

03-11-2010, 04:17 PM

Crap. Sorrysorrysorrysorry...

I always forget to check >.<

So, if Shock is still willing, be my guest.

DarkGardevoir

03-13-2010, 06:36 AM

Since I'm one big idiot and forgets easily, Sheepskinfuton has passed the judge quiz. congratz.

BlueJello

03-13-2010, 08:54 AM

Since I'm one big idiot and forgets easily, Sheepskinfuton has passed the judge quiz. congratz.

She's going to be one BAAAAAdass judge.

Congratulations.

sheepskinfuton

03-13-2010, 08:47 PM

Thanks DG, and thanks Blue... I think.

Woo for the instant gratification of judging.