Debate: More Banned Pokemon

[boltAge]

Well Marth told me to bring it here, so it's not my problem if anybody's not happy about it.

Look, so far we have Dratini, Larvitar and Bagon banned from Starters Request. What I'm proposing is, ban Chansey, and the fossil Pokemon(since they're not listed in the "banned" pokemon list). Simple as that. Marth, please don't think just because Blissey has lower average stat than Tyranitar and stuff, we should allow Chansey. You've never seen Blissey fight before, right? Lemme tell you, close to ALL special attackers(I'm talking about pure special attackers, not mixed ones like Blaziken) dies to it. It's a monster, and besides, Chansey is easy to evolve. You're claiming how easy it is to beat it due to its lower average stat, which should not be so. The only reason it has a low average attack is because of its low attack and defense, which is easily covered by its monsterous HP and Special Defense, making it the best special wall in the whole game. Consider my points, kay?

[Marth]

Why should we "bann" even more pokemon?
I think that what we are looking is more diversity in the URPG...
I mean, I've never seen someone using a Blissey in the URPG, so far.
I think that, if Chansey IS banned, there are a lot of other pokemon that should be banned too, taking in mind that.
Have you ever seen someone using a Snorlax? They are pretty hard to beat, and yet it's not banned as a starter.
If it were for me, I'd unbann everything except Legendaries.
But that's my opinion, and thank you Boltage, for moving this problem to here.
Edit: If blissey is SO powerful, then why nobody uses it?

[boltAge]

Why should we "bann" even more pokemon?
I think that what we are looking is more diversity in the URPG...
I mean, I've never seen someone using a Blissey in the URPG, so far.
I think that, if Chansey IS banned, there are a lot of other pokemon that should be banned too, taking in mind that.
Have you ever seen someone using a Snorlax? They are pretty hard to beat, and yet it's not banned as a starter.
If it were for me, I'd unbann everything except Legendaries.
But that's my opinion, and thank you Boltage, for moving this problem to here.
Edit: If blissey is SO powerful, then why nobody uses it?
No, you can go ahead and unban everything for all I care, I'm just saying if those 3 Pokemon stay banned, Chansey should, too.

Let's see. You've never seen someone use a Blissey before. That's because ITS HARD TO OBTAIN, duh. It's ridiculous trying to think up a plot for it, people have tried and failed.
Of course people use Snorlax, they're even available at the mart. It's not banned as a starter? There's only 2 in the game, I thought those limited Pokemon were banned, meh. Anyway Snorlax should be banned, yes, it's a strong Pokemon and should not be adopted by a random newbie as it is a no-evolution Pokemon with strong stats.

[Marth]

This should be discussed with the other moderators.

[AbXtreme]

It's always the Most Strongest And Popular Pokemon which Get's Banned eh? If Bagon,Larvitar and Dratini get Banned i think Chansey Should Be Banned as well. But the only way to get it i think is a Very Good Story, Call it one of those 'Expert' Pokemon Difficultys to get. I'm not gonna debate but that's what i think

[JoshE]

It's always the Most Strongest and most popular pokemon that get banned.

I was under the impression that you had to work to get strong pokemon. They should not be given to you at the begining. :tongue:

[mlugia]

A few points to consider:

- Bagon is banned from a starter, but you can BUY it?
- Chansey isn't banned, but you CANNOT buy it?

That's contrictory statements right there, if you ban it from being obtained easily, you take it off the mart. If you can start with it, you prolly should be able to obtain it easily somehow, and so far, no one other than Pokemaster Emily has a Chansey, I think?

[Jack of Clovers]

The following Pokemon are not allowed as Starter Pokemon:
Dratini
Larvitar
Bagon
Kabuto
Omanyte
Lileep
Aerodactyl
Snorlax
Chansey
Beldum
Castform
Porygon
Sudowoodo
Kangaskhan
Feebas
All Legendaries {duh}

Chansey was handed out, I didn't catch it in time. My bad. I'll incorporate this into the Rules now.

~Jack~

[boltAge]

Jack, thanks. We needed that. This can be locked or something to prevent more spam, I guess.

[JoshE]

The following Pokemon are not allowed as Starter Pokemon:
Dratini
Larvitar
Bagon
Kabuto
Omanyte
Lileep
Aerodactyl
Snorlax
Chansey
Beldum
Castform
Porygon
Sudowoodo
Kangaskhan
Feebas
All Legendaries {duh}

Chansey was handed out, I didn't catch it in time. My bad. I'll incorporate this into the Rules now.

~Jack~

Thats a pretty good list.

[JohtoTrainer]

What about Tauros, that's rare.

[Jack of Clovers]

you only ask that because someone requested one for a starter today/yesterday. lol. :tongue: Tauros is fine and its been allowed for people to start with it in the past. there's nothing wrong with Tauros. i have thought about it's rarity before but Tauros will still be ok to start with.

~Jack~

[Miravana]

*Stands infront of her Tauros and whistles innocently*

Well, I realize that it is rare.. But I don't want to be boring and start out with a game-starter pokemon or an eevee.. Its just too overdone for my liking.

[JohtoTrainer]

Yea, I know I am ashamed Jack :rolleyes: lol it's just as rare as Chansey and Kanga *runs* ot that I care just making a statement *dies* lol

[Miravana]

Yea, I know I am ashamed Jack :rolleyes: lol it's just as rare as Chansey and Kanga *runs* ot that I care just making a statement *dies* lol

Really? I didn't think a Tauros was that rare... I mean, I remember running into them fairly often in my gold game where the miltanks were. But I'm a newb, so, eh.

[JohtoTrainer]

Actually you have a really low chance of meeting a Tauros there. But yea in RBY it's the same rarity as Chansey, and Kanga.

[Miravana]

Really? Then, uhm.. Tauros just like me, then. I mean, I have even run into a shiny one in my gold game (couldn't catch the evil thing).

So, I guess I could change my pokemon if I needed to. I really like Tauros, but yeah. *Shrug*

PS: Glancing through the profiles and the starter request thread.. I don't think anyone else has a Tauros.. And if they do, I missed it.
o-o;

[JohtoTrainer]

LOL no, u don't, I just thought it was banned. But it's not :P and yea oteher people do have a Tauros

[Nintendofreak000]

eh, when it comes to starting pokemon...I dunno, Its not like I have anything against new people or anything, but I don't like it when there're newbies who start out with torchics or the traditional bulbasaur or charmander, and then there're people who choose huge monsters like Pinsir, Heracross or Lapras (the guy has an OHKO move for godsakes). If that doesn't put them way ahead of their peers...I dunno what does, starting with a fistful of TMs?

A few mon I don't agree with:

Pinsir
Heracross
Lapras
Sneasel (Sneasel's have weird stats...but its cool ^^ kitty)
Jynx
...Jose and I were talking about starter monsters and I really don't like people starting with any non-evolutionary lined starters. Sure some of them suck, like Tangela...but who's gonna start with Tangela in the first place anyway...

[FinalThunder]

bagon and lavitar shouln't be banned.
i have to agree with the others
but not these two

[Nintendofreak000]

If Bagon and Larvitar aren't banned, why would Dratini and Beldum stay banned?

Those four are quite rare and really sought after. They have impressive skills too and aren't to be taken lightly, I think its good that they stay banned. Salamence, Dragonite, TTar and Metagross are considered ex-Legendaries, so ya, they shouldn't be easily gotten just by calling it as your starter.

[boltAge]

Hey, Tangela doesn't suck, it has some use you know. A Physical tank that's resistant to Earthquakes. Haha.

Anyway, I would think any basic Pokemon with no evolution should be banned from being a starter.

[Tamer San]

Well Nin, Jynx isn't considered non-evolutionary because it actually has a pre-evo. But yeah, almost all non-evos and some rare mons like Dratini should be banned. I agree with banning Lapras as a starter. Look at its stats, movepool and its cost at the mart >>

[JohtoTrainer]

Yea, if you want a Jynx you have to get a Smoochum.

I think that if something is banned as a starter it shouldn't be in the Pokemart either.

[boltAge]

Pretty good idea to ban banned starters from being sold in the mart, we graders will have more stuff to grade, since people would have to write stories to get rare mons =D

[Tamer San]

If anyone here actually cares to write anyway

[FinalThunder]

I think if the pokemon has evevolution it is egible pokemon but if it doesn't it is not. i also say that pokemon getting it should base on orginal like someone can ask for pikachu and get it becuase it was in it lowest forms on Red blue and yellow versions! that my opinion

[Jack of Clovers]

since this is based on a RP idea initially, i thought it was fine to start with any Pokemon you wanted (except the rare Pokemon). maybe the list needs to be changed, maybe it's time to stop handing out Tauros. lol.

i want other's opinions on this one.
no- leave it alone.
maybe- change/add one or two to the list.
yes- evolutionary pokemon only.
:question:

~Jack~

[boltAge]

Yes.

[Nintendofreak000]

eh...there are some pokemon that aren't that threatening...but to keep it safe:

Yes