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finallegacy
04-08-2007, 10:59 PM
What do you guys think is a good grass type pokemon? I'm really frustrated at fighting these swamperts that everyone uses. I sometimes use a ludicolo, but I want one with more "umph", if you know what I mean. I'm thinking of breloom, he looks pretty formidable I think. And I think this is a pretty good moveset for him.

Breloom
- Skyuppercut
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- (Some stat raising move, I hope he can learn sword dance)

What do you guys think? Have any other suggestions for Breloom, or even another formidable grass type?

Saremu
04-08-2007, 11:04 PM
Breloom or Cacturne. I'd go with Cacturne because I'm sick of Brelooms. Needle arm is dangerous.

Leman
04-08-2007, 11:13 PM
I like Breloom a lost, but if you dont want to use him, Ludicolo is another great option. For the last spot, go with Sludge Bomb.

Ness
04-09-2007, 02:24 AM
Breloom
- Skyuppercut
- Spore
- Giga Drain
- (Some stat raising move, I hope he can learn sword dance)

What do you guys think? Have any other suggestions for Breloom, or even another formidable grass type?

Funny thing is Breloom in my opinion plays barely like a Grass-Type and mostly like a Fighting-Type. Anyways, any competitive or really effective Breloom set contains a) Spore and b) Focus Punch. This combination is deadly. Other moves you can give it are Brick Break, Mach Punch, Hidden Power (anything that uses Attack stat), Substitute or Leech Seed. I wouldn't give it any Grass moves because then you'd have to split your EVs (if you are into that) which would make it less effective.

I would probably make Breloom have Jolly nature over Adamant if possible and focus EVs into Attack and Speed.

Alienshroom
04-09-2007, 02:25 AM
Chikorita is a good choice.

hsb39
04-09-2007, 02:54 AM
Although I love Breloom and Ludicolo, they seem to be more like their other type, I did love Meganium, I used it in Colloseum as an unsuspected Sunny-Beamer and liked it ever since.

Deathlunar
04-09-2007, 06:44 AM
I'd suggest Sceptile. It's fast, and it's attack stats are quite good, too. And it learns Leaf Blade.
I wouldn't go with Breloom, since it's special attack stat is a bit low. So Giga Drain turns useless.

Fossil Fusion
04-09-2007, 11:32 AM
Breloom: Only if you want to piss off teams with Spore and stuff.
Ludicolo: If you want a Staller/Rain Dancer Sweeper.
Sceptile: If you want a Subseed.
Celebii: For a Heal Beller, and a Sponge.
Exeggutor: If you abuse Sun in 2on2 Battles.

Just go with what Ness said really.

mootixguy
04-09-2007, 01:32 PM
I like Ludicolo as a staller.

Breloom is cool as Spore Puncher, not as a Grass type... but you can always use anti-standard Pokemon and catch your opponent just when he does not expect it!

bigboy
04-10-2007, 07:29 PM
don't get a grass type at all, their moves such and if you have to get treecho's final evolve

Ness
04-10-2007, 07:37 PM
don't get a grass type at all, their moves such and if you have to get treecho's final evolve

Grammar? :rolleyes:

Grass Pokemon are good... Fire-Types aren't so great but Grass-Types are fine. True, they don't have a wide variety of attacking moves but it's a decent defending type. Plus they put Water pokemon in their place (well Bulky Waters can take a hit or two) and Water Pokemon are probably the most common-type pokemon there is (virtually all teams have one).

bigboy
04-10-2007, 07:40 PM
Hey ness fire type rule and a magicarps final evlove can learn fire type moves so there goes your grass tpye

kingrptr101
04-10-2007, 07:51 PM
Hey ness fire type rule and a magicarps final evlove can learn fire type moves so there goes your grass tpye
And Gyarados has terrible special attack so there.

You could also try Jumpluff. It can become rather annoying after a while.

bigboy
04-10-2007, 07:54 PM
or a chensy they are pretty hard to take down and why are you arugueing with me and ness any way

Ness
04-10-2007, 07:57 PM
Hey ness fire type rule and a magicarps final evlove can learn fire type moves so there goes your grass tpye

Only reason why Gyarados would use a Fire move would be to fend off a Skarm. Otherwise it would be better to use HP Flying or Return on a Grass-Type for that matter. Plus, no experienced trainer would leave a Grass-Type against a Gyarados; that's suicide.

You could also try Jumpluff. It can become rather annoying after a while.

Rather annoying? I HATE that thing. If used at the right time it can be a pain to kill.

kingrptr101
04-10-2007, 08:01 PM
or a chensy they are pretty hard to take down and why are you arugueing with me and ness any way

I'm not arguing. I'm merely pointing out that Gyardos has terrible Special Attack.

Only reason why Gyarados would use a Fire move would be to fend off a Skarm. Otherwise it would be better to use HP Flying or Return on a Grass-Type for that matter. Plus, no experienced trainer would leave a Grass-Type against a Gyarados; that's suicide.

I was netbattling against some guy with HP Grass on Gyarados. I slaughtered him.:crackup:

Rather annoying? I HATE that thing. If used at the right time it can be a pain to kill.

Yeah. And also his high speed can really give you trouble.

bigboy
04-10-2007, 08:01 PM
a newbie would do that ness, are you going to side with the newbie again.

What carlos says," i hate dealing with dumb people."

Ness
04-10-2007, 08:04 PM
I was netbattling against some guy with HP Grass on Gyarados. I slaughtered him.:crackup:

Why would anyone put HP Grass on a Gyarados!? :rolleyes:

What carlos says," i hate dealing with dumb people."

Who is being dumb? :eh:

bigboy
04-10-2007, 08:07 PM
newbies are the ones who are dumb and could be you if you side with newbies ness or not if your agaist newbies

kingrptr101
04-10-2007, 08:09 PM
newbies are the ones who are dumb and could be you if you side with newbies ness or not if your agaist newbies
How is he siding with newbies? And try using some grammar so we can understand you. x_X

bigboy
04-10-2007, 08:13 PM
SalamenceMaster i told you earlier.

ness and i arugue alot and he sided with a newbie once

Ness
04-10-2007, 08:16 PM
newbies are the ones who are dumb and could be you if you side with newbies ness or not if your agaist newbies

I'm going to refer you to this post (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28&postcount=#7) before you go any further. :rolleyes:

kingrptr101
04-10-2007, 08:18 PM
SalamenceMaster i told you earlier.

ness and i arugue alot and he sided with a newbie once
So? Besides, not all new people are wrong. This went way off topic.

A good set for Jumpluff would be:

Jumpluff @ Leftovers

-Leech Seed
-Substitute
-Sleep Powder
-HP Ice/Flying

Personally, I'd go with HP Flying because it will get STAB.

bigboy
04-10-2007, 08:21 PM
okay ness you made your point i'll stop but which part did you want me to read?

Ness
04-10-2007, 08:34 PM
A good set for Jumpluff would be:

Jumpluff @ Leftovers

-Leech Seed
-Substitute
-Sleep Powder
-HP Ice/Flying

Personally, I'd go with HP Flying because it will get STAB.

Meh... Giga Drain would be better than either HP in my opinion. Jumpluff doesn't have the stats to really damage so you might as well put Giga Drain on for survivability.

okay ness you made your point i'll stop but which part did you want me to read?

The second last note at the bottom if not all of it :rolleyes:.

bigboy
04-10-2007, 08:43 PM
So? Besides, not all new people are wrong. This went way off topic.

A good set for Jumpluff would be:

Jumpluff @ Leftovers

-Leech Seed
-Substitute
-Sleep Powder
-HP Ice/Flying

Personally, I'd go with HP Flying because it will get STAB.

i agree it went off top it
what about if you could teach jumpluff toxic that would work well