stupided moves why created

[bigboy]

Hey there are so many stupid moves out there and i'm thinking why do you think the people even made them.

post the move and right the reason why it was created

for instance why did they make splash may be the programmers wanted to get wet with a female freebas

[Ness]

for instance why did they make splash may be the programmers wanted to get wet with a female freebas

Heh a Hydro Pump would get them more wet.

But seriously the reason why they have Splash is so Magikarp < Level 15 can't deal damage. They put in a super high PP move that does nothing so that Magikarp can't use struggle without already using 40 Splashes (extremely hard to do with a Magikarp under level 15).

[bigboy]

or a bad fire move for a charizard so the programmers could say to their enemy you just got burned son

[Ness]

or a bad fire move for a charizard so the programmers could say to their enemy you just got burned son

I'm glad the programmers didn't put that in :rolleyes:.

[bigboy]

and what about rock smash maybe the programmers put that in to smash virtally nuts and by the way i had a cousin who taught a groudon rock smash once dang he was such an idiot

[Pikablu Pie]

Hyper Beam
Hydro Blast
Blast Burn
Frenzy Plant

They all suck bad on everything, cept Slaking, but he isn't that great anyway.

[Deathlunar]

Well, I guess every move has some kind of a meaning, though some of them are pointless. But yeah, some moves just need more power. Like Rock Smash. Damn I hate that move.

bigboy, don't double post. That means posting two or more posts in a row.

[mootixguy]

Mud Sport and Water Sport are freaking useless as well. Especially since the Pokemon who learns these moves will be able to kill the fire and electric Pokemon without that. I mean, it would make more sense if a Grass type had Water Sport, to guard itself against a Fire Pokemon. But, even so... just can't see the point in these two moves.

[ikilledyourcat01]

Mud Sport and Water Sport are freaking useless as well. Especially since the Pokemon who learns these moves will be able to kill the fire and electric Pokemon without that. I mean, it would make more sense if a Grass type had Water Sport, to guard itself against a Fire Pokemon. But, even so... just can't see the point in these two moves.
Stringshot and Mist i guess.

[spr bhav]

Stringshot and Mist i guess.
string shot is pretty useful in speed reduction, not sure about mist/

[Chris9898]

Swampert used Mud Sport... YES! Electricity's power was wea.... wait it already didn't effect...

[JentleViolence]

I heard somewhere that there was actually a really strong move behind splash, but I think my friend may have just been screwin' me, so I didn't believe her.

And thus, splash remains the most stupidest move evar created. =_=

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes, splash is very stupid. I don't think it really does anything.

Magicarp used splash! ..... But nothing happend. (I think that is how you spell Magicarp)

[pixlepix]

mud sport is stupid because most of the pokemon that know it are ground types

[mootixguy]

Stringshot and Mist i guess.
It's spelt Magikarp.

And Mist can be quite useful at times, to prevent Hazers.

[MagmarMan]

Rock Smash. Why is that an HM????? It plain blows!!!!

[legendarychamp22]

I think splash was created to show how a really weak pokemon could become really strong if you are patient. But, that's just plain stupidity.

[Alienshroom]

I think they made rock smash suck cause its a HM and to piss you off.

[the2]

I can really relate to you about the dumb moves. I really hate splash, water sport, rock smash, ect, you guys know them all. The reason there made is to balance out the game. Look at the difference between Magicrap and Garry. A huge one. He's powerful so they make you work hard to get one. Although I'm sure everyone hates splash, he's worth it right?

[MagmarMan]

I can really relate to you about the dumb moves. I really hate splash, water sport, rock smash, ect, you guys know them all. The reason there made is to balance out the game. Look at the difference between Magicrap and Garry. A huge one. He's powerful so they make you work hard to get one. Although I'm sure everyone hates splash, he's worth it right?

I don't think that Gyarados is worth after R/B/Y. His special stats were slashed going into G/S/C and their the same now in Ru/Sa. To bad too. He was always my favorite bruiser.

[Ness]

I don't think that Gyarados is worth after R/B/Y. His special stats were slashed going into G/S/C and their the same now in Ru/Sa. To bad too. He was always my favorite bruiser.

Meh Tauntrados is pretty damn good and can be a killer. Dragon Dance helped it out a lot and so did Earthquake. I still prefer the RBY Gyarados though - pure all out offensive monster both on the Physical and Special side.

[Phantom Kat]

They are not stupid moves, persay, but right now I'd fed up with Roar and Whirlwind.

It's really annoying try to level up in Victory Road when the pokemon that give you good EXP take you out of the battle when you're about to land the final blow. :susp:

[WifiFX]

Rocksmash can't be too strong people because..remember? Infinite tutoring of HMs to Pokemon?

[Ness]

Rocksmash can't be too strong people because..remember? Infinite tutoring of HMs to Pokemon?

What about Surf though? 95 base power Water move. There isn't much that can beat that :rolleyes:.

I think Splash is not a dumb move at all. It serves a purpose: to make it impossible to level Magikarp up to level 15 by itself.

The Sport moves are probably the most useless but they could help with certain Gym Leaders and E4 Members.

[Venusaur456]

Hey there are so many stupid moves out there and i'm thinking why do you think the people even made them.

post the move and right the reason why it was created

for instance why did they make splash may be the programmers wanted to get wet with a female freebas
Yeah Splash is the worst move there is because it does NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING.

[spr bhav]

Yeah Splash is the worst move there is because it does NOTHING. Absolutely NOTHING.
makes is harder for magikarp to train, it would be too simple then... like Ness said.

[Venusaur456]

makes is harder for magikarp to train, it would be too simple then... like Ness said.
Exactly it would make Magikarp hard to evolve into the ULTRA Gyarados.

[spr bhav]

Exactly it would make Magikarp hard to evolve into the ULTRA Gyarados.
no it would make it more realistic, for a pokemon hard to train at first into a raging beast.

[Azumao]

Wrap and constrict are the two most annoying moves to me...I want to kill them, but they are not living things.

Personally, I like splash. Why? Because, for me, the sole purpose of Magikarp is to laugh at it in it's lameness. Besides, it teaches the virtue of teamwork (aka, sending out Magikarp and immediately switching) as well as EXP Share. :D

[mootixguy]

I don't think that Gyarados is worth after R/B/Y. His special stats were slashed going into G/S/C and their the same now in Ru/Sa. To bad too. He was always my favorite bruiser.
And now in DP, he makes a triumphant return!

[Shadow_Fire]

To me no offensive move (Except for splash) is that useless. But in the case of whirlwind and roar, look at it this way, you hate it when it's working against you, but if your pokemon has it it can be kinda useful. Just not for me. I'm one of those people who can't stand stat lowering moves. I ALWAYS replace them with something offensive. A semi-pointless move is Sleep Powder and Hypnosis. Sure they're useful for putting the enimy to sleep, but in most cases it only lasts about 3 turns.

[MagmarMan]

A semi-pointless move is Sleep Powder and Hypnosis. Sure they're useful for putting the enimy to sleep, but in most cases it only lasts about 3 turns.

But that's three turns that you can power-up or just hit your opponent:hungry: .

[Leman]

Drain Punch is stupid IMO.

[MagmarMan]

Drain Punch is stupid IMO.

Why is that so bad? Anyway this is R/S/E so shouldn't Drain Punch not be included?:goofy:

[Leman]

Why is that so bad? Anyway this is R/S/E so shouldn't Drain Punch not be included?:goofy:

Yeah, but Ive been wanting to say that all day. Drain Punch isn't bad, just that the idea behing it is stupid.

[MustangGT]

i heard somewhere that Splash(yes, the ever hated move) CAN do damage, but only to tentacool

i should test that

[kidbory]

What about safeguard as well, that's pretty pointless.

What about False swipe that's useless except when your trying to get pokemon on your team its really good.

[spr bhav]

What about False swipe that's useless except when your trying to get pokemon on your team its really good
Safeguard can be great, false swipe is a very popular move. Please don't double post.

[MustangGT]

man, no one even argues with the "splash can hurt tentacool thing" :eek:

[Gold Rush]

Splash is absolutly useless so is hyper beam, blast burn and the rest of them lot and mud sport and water sport they are all :goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy:

[Brainiac]

I like splash for the reason that if you get a high level garydos, delete all the moves but splash, and have six of them, then make it your team when you record mix and you can gain lots of experience on very weak pokemon by fighting the garydos in your secret base, and the garydos will not even be able to fight back in any way, also useful in gaining EV's.

[pokemaster2000]

I really dont't get why they put in things like sonicboom..it deals only 20 damage each time, now if your a lvl 5 thats great, but fo a magniton lvl 100 that knows sonicboom thats just sad...same with dragon rage that only deals 40 damage..

[kidbory]

Please don't double post.


Sorry. I'm new here. :redface:


Fixed it now. :happy:

[K3v1n]

Most of them have perposes except splash.I think thats there for fun.Garydos with splash lol.

[bigboy]

yes their are many moves we hate. But we all agree that splash is the number one worst move.

[Danger Aaron]

I like splash for the reason that if you get a high level garydos, delete all the moves but splash, and have six of them, then make it your team when you record mix and you can gain lots of experience on very weak pokemon by fighting the garydos in your secret base, and the garydos will not even be able to fight back in any way, also useful in gaining EV's.
That is a bloody brilliant idea.

Mud Sport and Water Sport are there so you can try and breed them into pokemon that can actually use them. ;)

To be honest, Struggle is the worst move. You cant even use it until all your other crap is gone, and then it does terrible damage.

[DarkSasuke]

i think that it would be awesome to see a lvl 100 magikarp.. with splash. i think it would deal damage.. hahah. :crackup:

[skyswellow]

I heard somewhere that there was actually a really strong move behind splash, but I think my friend may have just been screwin' me, so I didn't believe her.

And thus, splash remains the most stupidest move evar created. =_=

on pmd that was actually good shocking is it not

[legendarychamp22]

on pmd that was actually good shocking is it not
How is it good on PMD? You don't know what direction you are gonna splash!

[bigboy]

I have know one very bad move that is a waste. Grasswhistle it has low accary and it only puts the the opppent to sleep.

We still need more people to keep posting.

[pkmn trainer Vincent]

i dont know bout stupid moves exactly but i wanna know why the Move stregnth looks like the move Tackle when used......

[TeirusuFX]

Lol, has to be Splash, a long time ago, I thought Magikarp can only learn it, soon, I saw that I was wrong :eek:

[ID Saraibre Ryu]

Oy, there is the Contest matter in RSE. Slash is a pretty good move in the Cute contests, and Mud Sport/Watter Sport is a combo move in the same catagory. However for battle wise, they're useless, because a pokemon that could learn those moves probably could learn an offensive move to take a Fire/Electric pokemon out, same breeding wise. The only pokemon I ever kept Water Sport on was my Masquerain, only becasue it loses its water type when it evolves, and I had to battle Flannery. Yes, I found one when I first started my game outside Oldale town. That was a shocker, but still, thats off topic.

[Spindry]

This is starting to become the "I hate Splash" thread.

First off, I don't see why people are saying that moves like hyper beam ands Frenzy Plant are bad.

I've got Frenzy Plant on my Venusaur and I use it quite effectively. I'll send him out in the elite four, kill steelix and other pokemon that are weak against grass with one hit of frenzy plant. and if you trade him out with another pokemon after he kills someone with it, the recharge doesn't effect the next pokemon.


As for useless moves, I don't really know any.
Furry Cutter is pretty lame, it's super effective against psychic of course, but even against those it's not that strong.

[DarkGardevoir]

This is starting to become the "I hate Splash" thread.

First off, I don't see why people are saying that moves like hyper beam ands Frenzy Plant are bad.

I've got Frenzy Plant on my Venusaur and I use it quite effectively. I'll send him out in the elite four, kill steelix and other pokemon that are weak against grass with one hit of frenzy plant. and if you trade him out with another pokemon after he kills someone with it, the recharge doesn't effect the next pokemon.


As for useless moves, I don't really know any.
Furry Cutter is pretty lame, it's super effective against psychic of course, but even against those it's not that strong.

using it once, fury cutter isn't good. However, using it more times makes it a killer. *remembers the time Bugsy beat me in Silver because I let him Fury cutter* The problem is using it enough times....

one move that can be useless is snore. Low power, normal type, and can be used only while asleep. Yes, it can cause flinching, but who need it if you're slower?

[BladeTest]

I think they only gave Magikarp Splash, becuase many people woudn't even try to catch it, but those who did, there rivals felt the wrath of god.

[ZiVixx]

They put in splash because of the TV show. I haven't watched the old series in awhile, but if I remember correctly. Splash was meant to see how poweful the Magikarp was. If it didn't splash high in the air, there was no point in keeping it, but if it did it was going to be a strong Magikarp. If this isn't true, I'm sorry. We all do know Splash is probably never going to have effects, but I think I remember that from the show.

[bigboy]

This is starting to become the "I hate Splash" thread.

First off, I don't see why people are saying that moves like hyper beam ands Frenzy Plant are bad.

I've got Frenzy Plant on my Venusaur and I use it quite effectively. I'll send him out in the elite four, kill steelix and other pokemon that are weak against grass with one hit of frenzy plant. and if you trade him out with another pokemon after he kills someone with it, the recharge doesn't effect the next pokemon.


As for useless moves, I don't really know any.
Furry Cutter is pretty lame, it's super effective against psychic of course, but even against those it's not that strong.

People hate hyper beam because of the recharge. And what happens if it doesn't kill the oppent??? Plus it only has 5 powerpoint.

And I don't really like overheat. Because it lowers your sp. att. and If you are using it it must be because your pokemon has high sp. att.

[DragoniteMistress]

I heard somewhere that there was actually a really strong move behind splash, but I think my friend may have just been screwin' me, so I didn't believe her.

And thus, splash remains the most stupidest move evar created. =_=

Splash can be dead useful for contests :susp:

Just thinking about battles, are we?

[Zodeon]

and what about rock smash maybe the programmers put that in to smash virtally nuts and by the way i had a cousin who taught a groudon rock smash once dang he was such an idiot

Or maybe if very move had over 100 power and only 5 pp the game would be ****.

[kidbory]

then whats so bad about blast burn and frenzy plant:eh:.
they have only got five pp but there amazing.

[ID Saraibre Ryu]

Splash can be dead useful for contests :susp:

Just thinking about battles, are we?

You know, I did already say something like that. Anyway...

[Cogline]

Leech Life is a stupid move, it is really weak so the user don't get any hp from it.
And Pin Missile so weak.

[kidbory]

Leech Life is a stupid move, it is really weak so the user don't get any hp from it.
And Pin Missile so weak.

what type is pin missile:3

[Lucario99]

what type is pin missile:3
Pin missile is bug type.

I think Magikarp should be MagiCRAP

[bigboy]

Pin missle it's even worth my time. With such low attack I fell it's useless

[Red Gyarados]

i think those focus moves are useless unless you sure the enemy wont make you lose concentration.

[Vampire Gliscor]

Defog and Rock Smash. They are crap moves that have little to no in fight value, and they made it neccecary to have one of your pokemon have it! It was better when Flash was an HM rather than Defog.

[The Jr Trainer]

Defog and Rock Smash. They are crap moves that have little to no in fight value, and they made it neccecary to have one of your pokemon have it! It was better when Flash was an HM rather than Defog.

Defog lower Accuracy so it is good and Rock Smash it good 40Pwr lowers defence not in Competitive but ingame they are good.

[pokefan88]

:signugh:Mud sport is stupid on swampert becasue it isnt affected by electrick its ground and splash dont get me started on that one and roar ugh forcing other pokemon to go back to pokeball and pull out other one pointless u wil ko them all, teleport useless nintendo messed up bad with those moves.

[Spindry]

People hate hyper beam because of the recharge. And what happens if it doesn't kill the oppent??? Plus it only has 5 powerpoint.

And I don't really like overheat. Because it lowers your sp. att. and If you are using it it must be because your pokemon has high sp. att.

Well, you have to have a good sense of how strong you are as opposed to your opponet. If you don't think it'll kill them in one hit, damage them a little first then finish them off.
I usually use my PP UPS on moves that only have 5 power points. It's definatly worth it.

Overheat sucks too, unless you use it at just the right time. I know it's saved me in a battle or two, but it makes your pokemon basically usless for the rest of the battle. If you try to use it more than once, it only does about half as well.
That reminds me, Close Combat is about the same, if you use it, you can deal some nice damage, but right afterwards your defence and special defence is sharply cut and you're left wide open to be taken down. It also only has 5 pp.

[Youssarian]

:signugh:Mud sport is stupid on swampert becasue it isnt affected by electrick its ground and splash dont get me started on that one and roar ugh forcing other pokemon to go back to pokeball and pull out other one pointless u wil ko them all, teleport useless nintendo messed up bad with those moves.
You know, it is possible to win every battle, by, like, having a team of lvl. 100 Arceuses or whatever, but most people do not win every battle.

[Draconic_Espeon]

Leech Life is a stupid move, it is really weak so the user don't get any hp from it.
And Pin Missile so weak.

Actually, Leech Life is very useful, especially when combined with Sleep Powder. Put 'em to sleep and sap their HP.

[Wingull]

Actually, Leech Life is very useful, especially when combined with Sleep Powder. Put 'em to sleep and sap their HP.

Don't you mean Dream Eater? When a pokemon falls asleep you suck out their lives using a powerful move callled a dream eater! I hate the move Feint! What does it do? it always misses!

[Spindry]

Don't you mean Dream Eater? When a pokemon falls asleep you suck out their lives using a powerful move callled a dream eater! I hate the move Feint! What does it do? it always misses!

Feint allows you to attack someone if they're using protect. Not too bad if you can predict it.

[Wingull]

Oh, not bad, but you won't see many Pokemon use protect unless your battling on Wi-Fi then yes! But I didn't teach my Monferno "Feint".

[torterra55]

Supersonic bugs the crap out of me.Its accuracy is 55 but it hits alot.:susp:

[kakoishii]

howl, growl, agility, growth, leer, and pretty much all moves that that heighten attact stats but deal no damage. Not that they're horrible moves, but in a turn base game these attacks just leave your pokemon open to damage, and certain attacks like howl need to performed at least 3 times in a row for them to really be useful and to wait that long to deal an attack is just asking to die. I kind of wish they'd allow you to couple these moves with attacks say like have your pokemon use agility and furry swipes together, that way it'd be a little be more realistic if you were actually battling someone (kind of like in the show).

Another move I hate is supersonic, not cause it's useless but because it's annoying when a pokemon uses it on one of your own and then it get's all confused and ends up doing itself in -_- what's most annoying about this move is if your own pokemon uses it on someone else the other pokemon sparingly hurts itself in it's confusion, it's so annoying.

[Cybernetic Ghost]

howl, growl, agility, growth, leer, and pretty much all moves that that heighten attact stats but deal no damage. Not that they're horrible moves, but in a turn base game these attacks just leave your pokemon open to damage, and certain attacks like howl need to performed at least 3 times in a row for them to really be useful and to wait that long to deal an attack is just asking to die. I kind of wish they'd allow you to couple these moves with attacks say like have your pokemon use agility and furry swipes together, that way it'd be a little be more realistic if you were actually battling someone (kind of like in the show).

Another move I hate is supersonic, not cause it's useless but because it's annoying when a pokemon uses it on one of your own and then it get's all confused and ends up doing itself in -_- what's most annoying about this move is if your own pokemon uses it on someone else the other pokemon sparingly hurts itself in it's confusion, it's so annoying.

Agility is great for things like Metagross. Defense raising moves are good for tanks. Things like Leer, Growl, ect. are great, because at times, it can force a switch.

Double Team is the one move I hate. Its just insane. Glad most people play with a DT clause.

[magma]

string shot is pretty useful in speed reduction, not sure about mist/

Mist is a great move because it prevents stat reduction-just like haze.