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mootixguy
04-11-2007, 01:01 PM
Last time, the starters used to be mostly monotype and the type advantages were pretty clearcut. Ie. Blastoise definitely owned Charizard, Charizard definitely owned Venusaur, who definitely owned Blastoise.

But now, the first version which features dual types for every single one of the starters (its final stage, that is), things aren't that clear cut.

Infernape - Fire/Fighting. Both types are good against Steel, which is the second type of Empoleon. Fire type can dispatch Torterra.

Empoleon - Water/Steel. The fire starter, using a Fighting type move, would actually get Super Effective. It can kill Fire types with Water type.

Torterra - Grass/Ground. Ground type can own Infernape. However, now it has to use Ground type to land a super effective on Empoleon, since Steel type neutralises the weakness to Grass.

So for DP, here are the three possible clashes, and results:

Infernape vs Torterra: Both will deal super effectives against each other. Infernape is much faster
Infernape vs Empoleon: Both will deal super effectives against each other.
Empoleon vs Torterra: Torterra, strangely using its Ground type, lands super effective moves on Empoleon, who cannot fight back.

This means that Empoleon appears to be disadvantaged. Is that true?

The Maple Syrup Baptist
04-11-2007, 01:11 PM
Last time, the starters used to be mostly monotype and the type advantages were pretty clearcut. Ie. Blastoise definitely owned Charizard, Charizard definitely owned Venusaur, who definitely owned Blastoise.

But now, the first version which features dual types for every single one of the starters (its final stage, that is), things aren't that clear cut.

Infernape - Fire/Fighting. Both types are good against Steel, which is the second type of Empoleon. Fire type can dispatch Torterra.

Empoleon - Water/Steel. The fire starter, using a Fighting type move, would actually get Super Effective. It can kill Fire types with Water type.

Torterra - Grass/Ground. Ground type can own Infernape. However, now it has to use Ground type to land a super effective on Empoleon, since Steel type neutralises the weakness to Grass.

So for DP, here are the three possible clashes, and results:

Infernape vs Torterra: Both will deal super effectives against each other. Infernape is much faster
Infernape vs Empoleon: Both will deal super effectives against each other.
Empoleon vs Torterra: Torterra, strangely using its Ground type, lands super effective moves on Empoleon, who cannot fight back.

This means that Empoleon appears to be disadvantaged. Is that true?

Empoleon has the highest stat of them all in it's Sp. Atk, and has the 2nd best HP, best Sp. Def, and 2nd best Def...

He's not too disadvantaged, and he can take a hit. Plus, he can Ice Beam Torterra for 4x damage, and Surf Infernape, who has average defences.

I have a feeling this topic may get closed. :confused: