Pokemon D/P EV Spots / EV Training Guide.

[spr bhav]

THANKS TO ARCHOFICLE OFF IGN BOARDS FOR THIS!!!
First off...what is EV training?

EVs (or Effort Values) are gained when battling Pokemon. Each Pokemon that you battle gives out a certain amount of Effort Values. Effort Values are hidden from view though, so it is up to you to keep track of this.

Each Pokemon gain up to a total of 510 EVs. Every 4 EVs equals one stat point gained when you level up (if you gained 4 EVs of that stat while training). Out of those 510, 508 of them are usable (508 is divisible by 4 and 510 is not). However, each stat can only have a maximum of 252 usable Effort Values. That means you can max out 2 different stats. 252 EVs translates into 63 stat points. (63 times 4 is 252). Also, this can be supplemented by a nature. (A beneficial nature adds 10% more stat points overall, while a hindering nature takes away 10% overall. So a Pokemon with an Adamant nature gets 10% MORE stat points in Attack but 10% LESS stat points in Special Attack).

Now on to where you can do this in Diamond and Pearl?

SPECIAL:
~*added by me* Unowns (((+1 EV for SP. ATK and +1 ATK EV.)))
~TIP: *contributed from Beech Daly* Fight Low level pokemon so you don't gain alot of EXP while getting a good amount of EV's. High levels make pokemon grow faster and make EV training a tad harder.

HP:
~Shellos at Valley Windworks north of ignore the Buizel (+1 each)
~Gastrodons at Fuego Ironworks or Route 213 ignore Floatzel (+2 each)
~Gastrodons outside of Pal Park (+2 each) *are there Floatzel here?*


Attack:
~Kricketune and Bibarel at route 212 (rainy route) (+2 each)


Defense:
~Cave with Geodudes and Hippos off route 214 (+1 each) *name?*
~Onix and Gravelers on Iron Island in the second room ignore Golbats (+1 Onix) (+2 Gravelers)


Special Attack:
~Gastly at the Old Chateau in Eterna Forest (+1 each) (Haunters +2) (Gengars +3)
*Need GBA Game in GBA slot and National Pokedex for Haunters and Gengars*
~Golducks surfing in the water at the Resort Area (+2 each)


Special Defense:
~Surfing any ocean/sea area for Tentacools (+1each)
*North of 8th gym town has been good ignore Pellipers* (Mantykes +1)


Speed:
~Raticates and Fearows Northwest of the Fight Area (+2 each) *name?*
~Zubats in a cave (+1 each)
*anyone know whats the best cave?*
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*Vs Seeker Trainers*


HP:
~Route 209 - Cowgirl - L14, 15, 15, 15, and 16 Bidoof (5 HP)

Attack:
~Route 203 - Lass - L38 Staraptor, L38 Bibarel (5 Attack)

Defence:
~N/A

Special Attack:
~Route 214 - Collector - L20, 22, and 24 Roselia (6 Sp. Attack)

Special Defence:
~N/A

Speed:
~Route 205 (on the water bridge) - Fisherman - L10, 10, 10, 10, 10, and 10 Magikarp (6 Speed)

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*Power Items and Pokerus*


Power Items:
These items boost the number of EVs gained per battle with a pokemon in their respective stat.

Power Ankle: Boosts Speed EVs

Power Band: Boosts Special Defense Evs

Power Belt: Boosts Defense EVs

Power Bracer: Boosts Attack EVs

Power Lens: Boosts Special Attack EVs

Power Weight: Boosts HP EVs


Equation goes like this:

x + y = t

x = EV's from pokemon
y = EVs boosted from Power Items (+4)
t = Total EVs


Now with Pokerus we multiply the whole left side of the equation by 2 so...

2(x + y) = t

Now assume we have a pokemon that grants 2 points per battle...

2(2 + 4) = 12
Speeding up EV Training

Macho Brace
- Lowers the speed of the holder, but doubles the amount of EVs you get from one battle. (example: If you fight a Starly for Speed EVs, you get 2 EVs instead of the normal 1 EV.

Pokerus
- Doubles the amount of EVs you get from a battle.

Vitamins
- Adds 10 EVs to a stat, but stops working if that stat already has 100 more EVs in it.

EXP. Share
- Not only does the wearer gain half the experience from a battle, but it ALSO gains EVs. So, for example, if someone battles a Pidgey for one EV of Speed, the both the Pokemon that battled and the wearer of EXP. Share gain 1 EV in Speed EACH. (If, say, a Pidgeotto battles and a Gastly is wearing the EXP. Share, then both Pidgeotto and Gastly each get 1 EV; the amount of EVs gained is not split in half.)

Reducing EVs
In Pokemon Emerald version, there are 6 berries that can reduce EVs. Each one reduces 10 EVs from their respective stat.

- Pomeg Berry - HP
- Kelpsy Berry - Attack
- Qualot Berry - Defense
- Hondew Berry - Special Attack
- Grepa Berry - Special Defense
- Tamato Berry - Speed

[Beech Daly]

If you want both Attack and Special Attack EVs - useful for total sweepers (which are both physical and special sweepers) - you might want to fight Unowns. Where, perhaps, do you see those? Well, they are in the Solaceon ruins. It's in the west end of the city.

Unown is 1 point for both Attack and Special Attack. Xatu and Charizard might be the perfect ones for there. Maybe even Giratina.

[spr bhav]

If you want both Attack and Special Attack EVs - useful for total sweepers (which are both physical and special sweepers) - you might want to fight Unowns. Where, perhaps, do you see those? Well, they are in the Solaceon ruins. It's in the west end of the city.

Unown is 1 point for both Attack and Special Attack. Xatu and Charizard might be the perfect ones for there. Maybe even Giratina.
Thanks for the info, I added the info to the post ^^.

[Deoxys Ribonuke]

I have a question...

Will you get more EV's by fighting a bunch of lower-level Pokemon and slowly gaining EXP than by fighting a bunch of higher-level Pokemon and gaining EXP more quickly?

[Beech Daly]

I'd go for the lower level ones. Mainly because the higher level ones give you much more experience points, which means they will level up quicker, but with less EVs.

I used to think the higher ones were good to train upon, but seeing how my Crobat's stats sucked at level 100, I was dead wrong.

[spr bhav]

I'd go for the lower level ones. Mainly because the higher level ones give you much more experience points, which means they will level up quicker, but with less EVs.

I used to think the higher ones were good to train upon, but seeing how my Crobat's stats sucked at level 100, I was dead wrong.
I'll add that too... thanks for the contribution.

[Deoxys Ribonuke]

Yeah, that would seem like the most logical thing to me. So that means I should train my own Pokes, since they gain less experience?

[Haelleah]

5F of Lost Tower is a pretty good place to train Speed (Zubats and Golbats, low levels). It might also be good for a Special Sweeper, since there are Ghastlys there too (sorry if I'm wrong about Ghastly raising Sp. Attack).

And I think the cave on Route 214 is called Ruin Maniac Tunnel, or Ruin Maniac Cave... not sure which :oops:

[spr bhav]

Yeah, that would seem like the most logical thing to me. So that means I should train my own Pokes, since they gain less experience?
Yeah that's the idea, you can, my Darkrai is boosted and i will EV train it depite that =P

[Beech Daly]

Haelleah, you are correct. Gastly is 1 point for Special Attack. And the cave at Route 214 is Ruin Maniac's Cave.

[spr bhav]

Haelleah, you are correct. Gastly is 1 point for Special Attack. And the cave at Route 214 is Ruin Maniac's Cave.
What does that cave do...? I had an unown in my party anyway.

[Beech Daly]

What does that cave do...? I had an unown in my party anyway.
How many different Unown have you caught? The more you caught, the deeper the Maniac digs into the cave, and it's where Hippopotas is at.

[spr bhav]

How many different Unown have you caught? The more you caught, the deeper the Maniac digs into the cave, and it's where Hippopotas is at.
Only 1 =P
Meh.. I can't be bothered XD

[silent pokemon master]

Really don't dobule post:rolleyes: .Poeple need it they look at it. Some of them don't Post. Next time don't doble post:rolleyes:

[spr bhav]

Really don't dobule post:rolleyes: .Poeple need it they look at it. Some of them don't Post. Next time don't doble post:rolleyes:
you can double post if it's your thread... To update or something, which i update this thread if somebody posts something actually useful.

[Haelleah]

Maybe Fuego Ironworks for Attack? You can find both Shinx and Luxio there...

I think this thread should be stickied.

[silent pokemon master]

No you cant dobule post.!

[spr bhav]

No you cant dobule post.!
Ok chill.. one simple mistake, it isn't as if you haven't made one before.

[silent pokemon master]

I have...But still Just don't double post.

[spr bhav]

I have...But still Just don't double post.
Jeez.. Im not a noob.. I only posted because people left it to die and then people start asking bout EV XD

[silent pokemon master]

Jeez.. Im not a noob.. I only posted because people left it to die and then people start asking bout EV XD

Argh sigh....Forget it......Just dont double post next time:oops:

[spr bhav]

Come on people post!

[Cybernetic Ghost]

The level of pokemon you get EVs from does NOT matter in the long run.

Fighting lower levels for EVs is faster, simply, because you kill them faster.

Fighting higher levels for EVs AND training, is a bit slower to get EVs, as it make take more than one hit to ko them depending on your level, but you get the same/morre EVs, and more xp, making it more efficent. What level you get EVs at DOSNT matter in the slightest. They will even out by level 100, every time. The jumps are just more noticeable if you fight low levels, but the growth slows down by mid levels and, once again, it evens out and maxes out at level 100. No benefit on training on low levels instead of high.

[GuardianOfThunder]

Do the Power Items work even if you're not fighting a Pokemon that gives an EV of that stat?

Thanks ahead of time.

[mootixguy]

Do the Power Items work even if you're not fighting a Pokemon that gives an EV of that stat?

Thanks ahead of time.
I would say no.

[Cybernetic Ghost]

Do the Power Items work even if you're not fighting a Pokemon that gives an EV of that stat?

Thanks ahead of time.

Yes. If your using a Power Bracer(the one that gives 4 atk EVs I think?) and fight a bidoof(gives 1 hp EV), you'll get 1 HP EV, and 4 Atk EVs.

[GuardianOfThunder]

Yes. If your using a Power Bracer(the one that gives 4 atk EVs I think?) and fight a bidoof(gives 1 hp EV), you'll get 1 HP EV, and 4 Atk EVs.

OK Thank you

[Mr M]

Yeah Pokemon can only get EVs through experience points..or in fact any battle that gives you EXP points. :happy:

[spr bhav]

WOO! For some reason, this is stickied, yay!

[Zan Sabrefang]

WOO! For some reason, this is stickied, yay!
Good job on this post. I wasn't really one for EV's until I completed LG, then I spent an age in Lavender Town EV'ing Sp.Att on my Alakazam. We don't get this game until the 27th of July for some reason though... Stupid UK.

[mjb4991]

For okerus is a smily face saying it is immune or it has pokerus? My rayquaza has a smileyand the pokemon center told me about pokerus but I wasn't paying attention. I want to infect my mew and train it while holding the macho brace.

[Deoxys Ribonuke]

For okerus is a smily face saying it is immune or it has pokerus? My rayquaza has a smileyand the pokemon center told me about pokerus but I wasn't paying attention. I want to infect my mew and train it while holding the macho brace.

That means it had just been cured of Pokerus. I don't think it means it can't catch it again, but it has to be from another Pokemon with Pokerus.

(PS: If you missed the boat, I can trade you something with Pokerus if you want me to. PM me. ^_^)

[spr bhav]

If it has a smiley, like my whole team has XD, it is IMMUNE to any pkrs

[SonicZeroX]

When a pokemon is "cured" of Pokerus IT STILL GIVES x2 EVS. It just cant pass it anymore.

[Garchomp9]

So, lets say, I have Exp. Share on my Eevee, but it's not battling. My Empoleon is. He defeats an Onix, so my Eevee will still get 1 EV towards defense? Even though it didn't battle?

[spr bhav]

So, lets say, I have Exp. Share on my Eevee, but it's not battling. My Empoleon is. He defeats an Onix, so my Eevee will still get 1 EV towards defense? Even though it didn't battle?
Yes, my 1st post does state that..

[The Jr Trainer]

Yo SPR just telling you u spelled Bibarel as Bideral or something like that. Just trying to help. Only one letter but w/e.

[spr bhav]

Yo SPR just telling you u spelled Bibarel as Bideral or something like that. Just trying to help. Only one letter but w/e.
ok thanks, editing. :wink:

[WifiFX]

Can someone tell me a good spot to EV train an extra strong nidoking?

[Deoxys Ribonuke]

Can someone tell me a good spot to EV train an extra strong nidoking?

That depends on how you are going to use your Nidoking?

[The Jr Trainer]

Can someone tell me a good spot to EV train an extra strong nidoking?

in atk right go to the umm The cave in Oreghburg the are a bunch of Machops or Victory road where there are machoke i think.

[Shiny Charizard]

When a pokemon is "cured" of Pokerus IT STILL GIVES x2 EVS. It just cant pass it anymore.
So it still gains double the amount of EVs? Awesome. I thought I had missed my chance with my Infernape.

[AshMistyMayfan]

I trained on 223 and scored a huge amounts of 3/3s and 3/4s on the electric.

[Mr M]

I trained on 223 and scored a huge amounts of 3/3s and 3/4s on the electric.

Hmm..now that you mention it..*goes off to do my EV training* :oops: Btw! Thanks for the tip AshMistyMayfan! :happy:

[mjb4991]

When a pokemon is "cured" of Pokerus IT STILL GIVES x2 EVS. It just cant pass it anymore.

That stinks.:sad: My pokemon is level 100.:sad:

[Mr M]

That stinks.:sad: My pokemon is level 100.:sad:

Well you could use those EV reducing berries on your level 100 pokemon. Then you can redo your EV training from there...then you can "box" them. :happy: I'm sure you're familar with that method. :oops:

[spartan117]

Cant we just use iron,protein,zinc and etc....... to raise the stats instead of this?

[Beech Daly]

Yeah, you can, but..

(1) You can only use 10 of that kind (For example: 10 protein, which is 100 EV Attack points).
(2) The Max is 510 EV points, so you can only use 51 to one Pokemon.

You must have a lot of money, because they cause 9800 Pokedollars for just one.

[spartan117]

Yeah, you can, but..

(1) You can only use 10 of that kind (For example: 10 protein, which is 100 EV Attack points).
(2) The Max is 510 EV points, so you can only use 51 to one Pokemon.

You must have a lot of money, because they cause 9800 Pokedollars for just one.
ya i got enough money and I have the Amulet Coin to earn some more money.

[spr bhav]

ya i got enough money and I have the Amulet Coin to earn some more money.
EV training is much easier, and fun way...
You will end up with more than 100 EVs for a stat anyway.

[kingrptr101]

Cant we just use iron,protein,zinc and etc....... to raise the stats instead of this?

Yeah if you're lazy and don't care about maxing out stats.

Also, you have a 78% chance to run into Zubat's while walking at the Ravaged Path.

[The Jr Trainer]

EV training is funner and better and makes stats higher.

[Blazi]

i need help cuz i cant seem to see a difference between the pokemon i ev trained and 1 i trained by just going to the pokemon league with the exp. share.......what im trying to say is i trained a blaziken by fighting only low level zubats until it leveled up and it only gained +2 speed......then wen i turned my game off and leveled him up at the pokemon league he got the same amount of speed points........i need help:cry: .....

[The Jr Trainer]

i need help cuz i cant seem to see a difference between the pokemon i ev trained and 1 i trained by just going to the pokemon league with the exp. share.......what im trying to say is i trained a blaziken by fighting only low level zubats until it leveled up and it only gained +2 speed......then wen i turned my game off and leveled him up at the pokemon league he got the same amount of speed points........i need help:cry: .....

every 4 ev pionts is 1 boost of a stat so you have to beat 4 Zubats to get a FULL stat of speed so if you beat 24 then lv up you gain 6 speed it matters...

[Blazi]

every 4 ev pionts is 1 boost of a stat so you have to beat 4 Zubats to get a FULL stat of speed so if you beat 24 then lv up you gain 6 speed it matters...
oh ok.....maybe i wasnt doing it right

[Blazi]

so what if i have the pokerus, the power anklet(boost speed upon leveling up) and beat 24 zubat

[Pokemaniac28]

Not really, you dont gain all the EVs you got in one level. It all evens out and when you level up after EV training a specific stat you'll notice that stat would go up by 3, 4 or 5 sometimes depending on different stuff.

[spartan117]

How long cabn we Ev train? Because if you finish can you add protein after you EV train and raise the stats even more?

[The Jr Trainer]

How long cabn we Ev train? Because if you finish can you add protein after you EV train and raise the stats even more?

You can if it isn't maxed out i beleive....And i think you can EV train till LV100.

[spartan117]

You can if it isn't maxed out i beleive....And i think you can EV train till LV100.
oh so than I can for example EV train my Darkrai thats level 50 till its level 100 and then give it protein and etc...?

[Mr M]

oh so than I can for example EV train my Darkrai thats level 50 till its level 100 and then give it protein and etc...?

Yup! It's possible! Just be sure to check with the woman in Sunyshore City. She's in the same building where you would buy your pokeball seals. She'll let you know if your EV training is done by giving your pokemon an Effort Ribbon.

[Pokemaniac28]

You can only give a pokemon 510 EVs, after they gain all of them you cant give them anymore vitamins.

[Pokemaniac28]

Anybody know where to EV train tyranitar? Attack and what else?

[SunshineWingull]

Did anyone know that a Pokemon will gain more Experience Points if you fight in its "home route"?

I would like to know if it goes for EVs, too.

[MagmarMan]

Did anyone know that a Pokemon will gain more Experience Points if you fight in its "home route"?

I would like to know if it goes for EVs, too.

I had heard about that but I was never sure. Nice to know that I'm not the only one to have heard about this!!!:happy:

[CMEW]

this is so confusing i understand that every 4 EVs equals one stat point gained when you level up but i like battle Fisherman (second from right) - L10, 10, 10, 10, 10, and 10 Magikarp (6 Speed) 7 times and my speed ended up level up by 2 what is going on can someone help me

[Pokemaniac28]

this is so confusing i understand that every 4 EVs equals one stat point gained when you level up but i like battle Fisherman (second from right) - L10, 10, 10, 10, 10, and 10 Magikarp (6 Speed) 7 times and my speed ended up level up by 2 what is going on can someone help me

You dont gain all the EVs you got in one 1 level, its all spread out and you'll have them all once you reach level 100

[CMEW]

You dont gain all the EVs you got in one 1 level, its all spread out and you'll have them all once you reach level 100

so you can battle that fisher guy like 20 times and use rare candy to gain to level 100 and you will get all your ev's

[spr bhav]

so you can battle that fisher guy like 20 times and use rare candy to gain to level 100 and you will get all your ev's
Your EVs for that pokemon must be finished...

I defeated 5 bibarels and staraptor's once after alot of them, no +ATK, my EVs were maxed out.

[Tabbloza]

If you have more than one EXP Share on some Pokemon, will it still give the same amount of EV to each Pokemon? I have 3 Pokemon with EXP Shares, and I'm using a different Pokemon (without an EXP Share) to fight. Will they all get the same amount of EV's?

[CMEW]

If you have more than one EXP Share on some Pokemon, will it still give the same amount of EV to each Pokemon? I have 3 Pokemon with EXP Shares, and I'm using a different Pokemon (without an EXP Share) to fight. Will they all get the same amount of EV's?

i tryed ask the same question but someone told me they rather use macho bracer than exp share

[Pichufan4]

do u have to level your pokemon to level 100 to max EVs out? i want my max out EV pokemon to be around level 60-75, but im confused about the whole EV thingy.

[Draxai]

do EV's really make that big a difference?

and can you still gain EV's after you are level 100? or does it stop?

[dakurai]

EV training is wicked, thanks to the person to this guide

:rolleyes:

Ps. Why did 'Spr bhav' get banned anyway?
Ps2. I have been on this site looking and joined, Spr bhav was great o_O

[Draxai]

do EV's really make that big a difference?

and can you still gain EV's after you are level 100? or does it stop?
answer this someone plz?

[dakurai]

answer this someone plz?
EVs can make 64 stat point difference, which is huge...

EVs only gain stats when a lvl is gained, so no, after lvl100, no more EVs.

[Mr M]

If you have more than one EXP Share on some Pokemon, will it still give the same amount of EV to each Pokemon? I have 3 Pokemon with EXP Shares, and I'm using a different Pokemon (without an EXP Share) to fight. Will they all get the same amount of EV's?

Yes all pokemon who holds the Exp. Share item gets EVs! They will not "split" the EVs seperately. They all will receive the same amount of EVs as you would one on one.

[dakurai]

Yes all pokemon who holds the Exp. Share item gets EVs! They will not "split" the EVs seperately. They all will receive the same amount of EVs as you would one on one.
That question he asked was in the guide XD

[CMEW]

if a pokemon lose the pokerus virus will they still have the abitity to grow with double of ev's earn

[magentaman]

if a pokemon lose the pokerus virus will they still have the abitity to grow with double of ev's earn
yes

i found a good place to ev train mixed swepers, the trophy garden

Roselia +2 S.Atk
Staravia/Pikachu +2Speed
Pichu+1Speed
Kricketune +2Atk

[Deoxys Ribonuke]

I dunno if this has been asked before, but query:

Once you have maxed 510 EV's on your Pokemon, is it okay to train it normally on any Pokemon now?

[Pink Trainer]

Uhhh... Does the Macho Brace from Ruby/Saphire have a different effect from MAcho BRACER?

If so, would someone mind explaining?

[Pichufan4]

i have a quick question. i have a level 2 galceon and i want to max out its sp. atk, and i will most likely go to the old gateau to train it. but since it has a low level, i wanna raise it to level 20 b4 it faces them on its own, which means i need to have a poke battle them while glaceon holds the exp. share. now, the question.... if i exp. share my glaceon and one of my high leveled pokemon battle a gastly and after the battle i get the exp. and the +1 EV in sp. Atk, will both the poke and glaceon both get a +1 in special atk for their evs? sry if the ? does not make sence.

[Pink Trainer]

Yes, they will both get +1 Satk. However, a "High Level" if you have used it will most likely have no room for EVs, so they will not have an effect.

[Pichufan4]

coolio! i just do not wanna get screwed when i go to EV train glaceon.... and since my glaceon has pokerus... then that will mean it will get two evs?

[Pink Trainer]

If you fight a Zubat, it will get 2 Spd. If u then have macho brace, it will get 4 Spd. If you fight something with 2 EVs, it will then give 8 from the brace and virus

[Pichufan4]

okay, i think i screwed up on my glaceon's EV. with the power items (ie: power lens)... do u apply 4 special atk evs every time it levels up or when it finishes battleing a mon that gives it +1 sp. atk EV.

if i messed up ill be soooo pissed :crackup:, but ill try again.

[Pink Trainer]

Then pokerus doubles, then the lens adds two, so you would get 4 EVs per battle. not per level

[Pichufan4]

wait, i heard lens added 4? and wouldnt pokerus double that too?

ugh!! ill have to start over and i already maxed glaceon special atk and gave him the TMs i wanted him to learn/

[ambervoid]

I recommend this guide to anyone who wants to go in-depths into EV's

http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/ds/file/925601/48500

It is extremely exhaustive and contains alot of useful info

[DragoniteMistress]

For the Vs. Seeker trainers, my friend told me that there is a ninja boy somewhere in the game who has a Dustox. Since they give out +3 Sp. Defense... Well, I thought I'd just tell you that so the little N/A doesn't haunt people.

[Flan]

I have one question about the EV reducing Berries.
Let's say I gained 24 EVs in HP, and I wanted to reduce them using a Pomeg Berry.
If you used 2 of them on a Pokemon (-20 EVs), would you be able to use one more to remove the 4 extra remaining EVs? Or would you not be able to use it? I have this messed up Shiny Milotic with a Modest nature and I want to EV train it, but it's been touched everywhere. >.>

[magentaman]

I have one question about the EV reducing Berries.
Let's say I gained 24 EVs in HP, and I wanted to reduce them using a Pomeg Berry.
If you used 2 of them on a Pokemon (-20 EVs), would you be able to use one more to remove the 4 extra remaining EVs? Or would you not be able to use it? I have this messed up Shiny Milotic with a Modest nature and I want to EV train it, but it's been touched everywhere. >.>
yes you will be able to use 3 berries

[CMEW]

yes you will be able to use 3 berries

i have a question if you battle 225 fearow do you get 225 ev of speed

[Shiny Charizard]

Attack:
~Route 203 - Lass - L38 Staraptor, L38 Bibarel (5 Attack)

I've been looking around for her, and I can't find her. Is that the right route? It seems odd because that's right before Oreburgh City, so I don't think her pokemon would be that strong yet.

[troacctid]

i have a question if you battle 225 fearow do you get 225 ev of speed

No, I'm pretty sure Fearow gives 2 speed EVs. You'd get 255 (because that's the max).

[Doctor Hectic]

The waters of 213 have two trainers that are good for Atk Evs

Swimmer Sheltin
3 Gyarados = 6Atk Ev

Sailor Paul
Gyarados
Machop
=3Atk Ev

[Blastiose]

I have one question. Does this really work I tried it with two Blastiose starting at level 70 and raising them to level 90 tring to gain special attack. both had modest natures and I made their stats the same, holding no items. I tried raising one by the system and one by just battleing random people. Overall the one blastiose that battled random people grew more overall and gained more special attack than the one raised by the system. So does the system work?

[Blastiose]

Also give me a pokemon and its stats so I can compare to my pokemon to see which are higher.

[roid_monkey]

unless they were rare candied or raised in the daycare their ev's would have already been maxed out by level 70. you can only use 510 ev's

[Blastiose]

oh so EVs are mainly used for battling at lower levels while having a strong pokemon?

[finallegacy]

oh so EVs are mainly used for battling at lower levels while having a strong pokemon?

no, EV's permanently benefit your pokemon when you earn them.

[stevey666]

For speed, try Golbat in Victory Road. Surf on the water there and all you see is Golbats.

[Aeroglyphix]

I find Attack Sp ATk and Sp Def just left and up of resort area.

[okothnuva]

Fishing in Lake Verity (or one of the lakes, I forgot which one) or Celestic Town is good for Attack. The lake has Gyarados and Seaking, Celestic Town has Gyarados, Corphish, and Crawdaunt.

[Ture pokemon master]

Ev train ok i understand how it works. But I just need to know the adding part. Ok so if Kricketune gives +2 to attack and the Power Bracer +4. So than it would be 2+4=6 thats right? Also when I kill two Kricketunes that gives me 12 and +1 to attack? if so Four Kricketunes would be 24 and +2 to attack. If so Every two Kricketunes I get another +1 right? So that i get get +5 than because its only 252 for each stat to max. Is this right?

[finallegacy]

I think you're a little confused. 4 EV points = 1 stat point. So 24 EV points = 6 stat points.

[Ture pokemon master]

ty agian I love pokemon ;)

[troacctid]

Ev train ok i understand how it works. But I just need to know the adding part. Ok so if Kricketune gives +2 to attack and the Power Bracer +4. So than it would be 2+4=6 thats right? Also when I kill two Kricketunes that gives me 12 and +1 to attack? if so Four Kricketunes would be 24 and +2 to attack. If so Every two Kricketunes I get another +1 right? So that i get get +5 than because its only 252 for each stat to max. Is this right?
Seems more like your problem here is not EVs, but arithmetic. Each Kricketune gives the same EVs. It's merely a matter of adding, multiplying, and dividing.

[fearow23]

route 222 in Pearl helps me out alot. Purugly and floatzel +2 while Glameow +1, ignore Gastrodon and Chatot. Wingull also +1

[Stubby Boardman]

also the elite four is a good place to get evs from ill post those here if anyone wants but pm me if u want that done otherwise i wont k

good guide and thanks for it

[Verystrait42]

i cant find the speed guy on 205, can anyone help?

[Spartan777]

Is it to late to EV train my Infernape in sp att and att hes level 66 i just started EV training when he was lvl 65.
I'm training at Unowns is this the right place?

Thanks to anyone who answers:biggrin:

[Spartan777]

Also where do you get power items like power lens and power bracers.

[PKM-LuxR4y]

Where do you get an EVEE, i forgot..:rolleyes:

[My Chemical Romance]

Where do you get an EVEE, i forgot..:rolleyes:
trophy garden.

[ChthonicAustrian]

Four word rule, and Eevee is irrelevant entirely to this thread :/

I like this guide in terms of the nitty-gritty math, but you've missed a significant amount in terms of the VS Seeker EV points.

Here are the hot spots I use :P

HP - Bidoof at Verity Lakefront

Attack - Bibarel at Route 209 (Day time only)

Speed - Starly at Verity Lakefront

Special Attack - Gastly at Old Chateu

Defense: Iron Island (Steelix, Onix, Graveler)

Special Defense: Route 223 (Tentacruel/Cool)


For the trainers:

HP:
Cowgirl Shelly, Route 209 - Bidoof (5)
Bird Keeper Brianna, Route 210 - Noctowl (4)
Tuber Jared, Route 213 - Gastrodon (6)

Attack:
Lass Madeline, Route 203 - Bibarel, Staraptor (5)
Swimmer Sheltin, Route 213 - Gyarados (6)

Defense:
Collector Ivan, Route 221 - Hippopotas (3)
Collector Dominique, Route 212 - Geodude (3)

Sp. Attack:
Scientist Shaun, Route 212 (CUT Required) - Alakazam (6)
Psychic Mitchell, Route 214 - Haunter, Kadabra (4)

Sp. Defense:
Ninja Boy Davido, Route 210 (DEFOG Required) - Dustox (3)
Swimmer Mallory, Route 230 (SURF Required) - Seel, Dewgong (3)

Speed:
Fisherman Andrew, Route 205 (Bridge, 2nd from Right) - Magikarp (6)

[Green Special]

"SPECIAL:
~*added by me* Unowns (((+1 EV for SP. ATK and +1 ATK EV.)))
~TIP: *contributed from Beech Daly* Fight Low level pokemon so you don't gain alot of EXP while getting a good amount of EV's. High levels make pokemon grow faster and make EV training a tad harder.'"[this is from the 1st post made by the thread starter]

so let me get this straight. If i train on unowns andkill 24 of them, i will get 24 EV points, which will equal 6 stat points each for SP ATK and ATK. When the pokemon lvl up, they will get +6 for both of those? And is it possible to get 10+ points for each?

[troacctid]

"SPECIAL:
~*added by me* Unowns (((+1 EV for SP. ATK and +1 ATK EV.)))
~TIP: *contributed from Beech Daly* Fight Low level pokemon so you don't gain alot of EXP while getting a good amount of EV's. High levels make pokemon grow faster and make EV training a tad harder.'"[this is from the 1st post made by the thread starter]

so let me get this straight. If i train on unowns andkill 24 of them, i will get 24 EV points, which will equal 6 stat points each for SP ATK and ATK. When the pokemon lvl up, they will get +6 for both of those? And is it possible to get 10+ points for each?
No. You will get 48 EV points, because you get 2 from each. (1 ATT, 1 SPA) You will definitely NOT get 6 points in those stats on your next level-up. That's just not how stats work. I have a detailed explanation of this in my guide.

Most myths about EVs spring from the idea that the game "adds things on" to a Pokémon as it levels up. After all, every level-up it shows you a little list of how many stat points were added to each stat, doesn't it? But the secret is, it isn't really adding. It's subtracting. Sound confusing? I'll explain.

The game doesn't see a Pokémon's stats as fluid things that can be added onto. In actuality, every time a Pokémon levels up its stats are recalculated completely. The game will look at your Metagross and it won't say, "At lv8 this Adamant Beldum got this many EVs. It evolved here & again here. After it had full EVs, it ate 10 rare candies, and..." No! It actually says, "Attackstat = (((basestat * 2 + IV + EV/4) * level/100) + 5) * 1.1"
In other words, it won't just add 6 to your ATT and SPA. The EVs will remain on your Pokémon and contribute to its stats. At level 100, every 4 EVs are worth 1 stat point...but you wouldn't notice it that way unless you had a clone of the Pokémon with the exact same IVs and nature at the same level with different EVs.

[wu218]

Let's say I have an Elekid, newly hatched. So it's level one. If I battle a Zubat and level up, does the 1 Speed EV point carry on to level two, so if I kill three more zubats, I get a +1 in the Speed stat? Or does the EVs reset after every level?

[troacctid]

Let's say I have an Elekid, newly hatched. So it's level one. If I battle a Zubat and level up, does the 1 Speed EV point carry on to level two, so if I kill three more zubats, I get a +1 in the Speed stat? Or does the EVs reset after every level?
EVs are permanent. Once you have that 1 EV, it stays for the rest of the Pokémon's existence, unless you use a berry to make it go away.

If you think 4 EVs will give a lv3 Elekid +1 speed, however, you are sorely mistaken. You need to multiply by the level divided by a hundred when you calculate stats. So it's actually more like...somewhere around 130 EVs for one stat point, I think. That's for a level 3, of course--by the time you get to 100, all those EVs will count as 4 for 1 guaranteed.

[wu218]

EVs are permanent. Once you have that 1 EV, it stays for the rest of the Pokémon's existence, unless you use a berry to make it go away.

If you think 4 EVs will give a lv3 Elekid +1 speed, however, you are sorely mistaken. You need to multiply by the level divided by a hundred when you calculate stats. So it's actually more like...somewhere around 130 EVs for one stat point, I think. That's for a level 3, of course--by the time you get to 100, all those EVs will count as 4 for 1 guaranteed.
Oh, ok. so 4 EVs for one stat point is only at level 100. Ok Thanks. =D

[-Zodeon]

This has been amazingly helpful to me when it comes to training. Thanks alot. :biggrin:

[Mister White]

I don't know if this has been brought up, but in pearl (not sure about diamond) on route 222 next to sunyshore town there a lot of floatzel (evolved form also?) and purgely which both give 2 speed, very few gastrodons, i know the high lvl thing, but only lvl 40ish and that is where i ev trained my gengar and he has awesome stats.

[troacctid]

I don't know if this has been brought up, but in pearl (not sure about diamond) on route 222 next to sunyshore town there a lot of floatzel (evolved form also?) and purgely which both give 2 speed, very few gastrodons, i know the high lvl thing, but only lvl 40ish and that is where i ev trained my gengar and he has awesome stats.
It's not an awful place, but it's easily overshadowed by the "6 Magikarp Guy."

[Mister White]

I have a question, how do you fight him over and over? i use the enemy locator thing but i can't fight him right away.

[troacctid]

I have a question, how do you fight him over and over? i use the enemy locator thing but i can't fight him right away.
You use the Vs. Seeker near him, and an exclamation point has a chance of showing up. If it does, you can speak to him to start a battle. Otherwise, you'll have to try again. Either way, it takes 100 steps to recharge the Vs. Seeker, so use your step counter and set your bike to the faster gear. And remember your Power item, of course.

[Mister White]

I still feel it would take me only 50 steps to incounter 5 purgely and floatzels, both giving 2x2 evs in speed

[troacctid]

I still feel it would take me only 50 steps to incounter 5 purgely and floatzels, both giving 2x2 evs in speed
Floatzel's encounter rate is 25%, and Purugly's is a mere 15%. You'll only find the Pokémon you want less than half the time. (Although at night, Floatzel's encounter rate increases to 35%.) So it's not exactly optimal.

[Mister White]

Really only that often? cause i see them most of the time, but still at night that is 50% of the time and in any game statistics don't mean sh@t if you are as lucky as hell, which i am jnot

[damion]

I have a question:
At what level is a good level to start ev training?

I was told at level 40

[troacctid]

I have a question:
At what level is a good level to start ev training?

I was told at level 40
That is incorrect. The correct level to start EV training is as soon as you get the Pokémon, before it has battled at all. If it's been in too many battles already, it isn't possible to EV train it.

Oh, and on a side note, your signature exceeds the limit.

[shatteredrose]

Question: Does evolving a pokemon that you're EV training affect the EV's an any way?

I'm pretty it doesn't do anything harmful, or screw up the training, but I wanted to make sure.

[troacctid]

Question: Does evolving a pokemon that you're EV training affect the EV's an any way?

I'm pretty it doesn't do anything harmful, or screw up the training, but I wanted to make sure.
Your hunch is correct. EVs are retained upon evolution.

[shatteredrose]

Thanks!

But naturally, I instantly have another question. This has to do with a pokemon's base stats and evolution. Let's take
Onix --> Steelix. Onix has higher stats in certain areas than steelix does. But when onix evolves into steelix all the base stats are changed.

But how does that work and effect EV's?
And if you wanted to EV train Onix but plan to evolve it, you should really do the EV training based on steelix's base stats, etc., correct?

Yikes, I must sound like an idoit. I swear I overthink things too much. ^_^;

[troacctid]

Thanks!

But naturally, I instantly have another question. This has to do with a pokemon's base stats and evolution. Let's take
Onix --> Steelix. Onix has higher stats in certain areas than steelix does. But when onix evolves into steelix all the base stats are changed.

But how does that work and effect EV's?
And if you wanted to EV train Onix but plan to evolve it, you should really do the EV training based on steelix's base stats, etc., correct?

Yikes, I must sound like an idoit. I swear I overthink things too much. ^_^;

You should do the EV training based on the role you want it to perform for your team and what you want it to do in battle. So its base stats will probably play a role, as well as its moves, and the other Pokémon in the environment. It mostly depends on your strategy.

The base stat is determined only by the Pokémon's species, and it's identical for every Pokémon of that species. So every Steelix has the same base defense stat no matter what its EVs or IVs or nature or level. And if you're curious about how different variables affect stats, the equation is...

Stat = floor((((basestat * 2 + IV + EV/4) * level/100) + 5) * nature)
HPstat = floor(((basestat * 2 + IV + EV/4) * level/100) + level + 10)

[salamencepk]

I have a question. Lets say you want to EV train an Espeon, with Sp. Attack and Speed. After you get 252 in both and 6 in another stat, which means you've maxed out your EVs. Do you have to continue to attack the same pokemon that gave you the stats, like ghastly and haunter for sp. attack? Or can you now switch to pokemon that give more xp so you can get to lv 100 faster?

[troacctid]

I have a question. Lets say you want to EV train an Espeon, with Sp. Attack and Speed. After you get 252 in both and 6 in another stat, which means you've maxed out your EVs. Do you have to continue to attack the same pokemon that gave you the stats, like ghastly and haunter for sp. attack? Or can you now switch to pokemon that give more xp so you can get to lv 100 faster?
No point trying to keep EV training after you have your 510. Just kill the E4 or whatever.

[salamencepk]

Thank you for clearing that up for me.:happy:

[xskittycatx]

I think I might have messed up my Pachirisu. His stats are all pretty even though.
Is this good?(Btw I don't use special attacks and he is lv. 62 with careful nature.)
Hp 150
Attack 112
Defense 114
Sp. Attack 72
Sp. Defense 136
Speed 150

[KingKipper]

Ok so i have a question, i read the guide and i want to EV train my monferno in speed and attack, any extra tips on doing that?

[tb33zy123]

i also have a question, and feel free to PM me. but i have already gotten the effort ribbon for my arcanine that i have been ev training in SP atk and Speed, but its stats still look really low...so should i keep ev training it?? HELP!

[Ahlat]

i also have a question, and feel free to PM me. but i have already gotten the effort ribbon for my arcanine that i have been ev training in SP atk and Speed, but its stats still look really low...so should i keep ev training it?? HELP!
Level it up to 100 and if you feel they are low then you did it wrong.

[Light_Sky]

Question! If you have 252 EV's (example in Speed) do you have to keep battling Magikarp?

[Ahlat]

Question! If you have 252 EV's (example in Speed) do you have to keep battling Magikarp?
No, you don't need to. You can if you want but that would be downright stupid.

[Hoshi]

Thanks This Really Helped Me .. MWAH Make a ownsome team

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[darthcrawford]

I want to ev a charmander and was wondering how to get it the egg move thunderbolt when it hatches