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Mysticjason
06-07-2007, 01:51 AM
I was wondering, like Celebi or Manaphy... Are they considered Ubers? They have good stats, but certainly not overwhelming stats.

cacatua
06-07-2007, 01:52 AM
nah i hate them so ermm do you wnt a manaphie and a phione?

Mysticjason
06-07-2007, 02:29 AM
LOL I would want a Manaphy, if it's still unhatched.

cacatua
06-07-2007, 02:31 AM
k the you can ask for it to xybob

Lord Celebi
06-07-2007, 05:10 AM
Mini-Legendaries have better base stats than the Trio Legendaries. The Trio Legendaries (Whether it be the birds, dogs, Regis, or Pixies) all have base stats of 580. The Mini-Legendaries, as you call them, have base stats of 600.

Oh, and for the record, Phione has the worst base stats of all legendaries, coming in at a whopping 480.

mistdragon
06-07-2007, 05:23 AM
Mini-Legendaries have better base stats than the Trio Legendaries. The Trio Legendaries (Whether it be the birds, dogs, Regis, or Pixies) all have base stats of 580. The Mini-Legendaries, as you call them, have base stats of 600.

Oh, and for the record, Phione has the worst base stats of all legendaries, coming in at a whopping 480.
What about the Lati twins? I heard they are uber...

Zan Sabrefang
06-07-2007, 06:33 AM
Phione is 20 below on every stat compared to Manaphy. I guess to show that Manaphy is the Parent so it should be stronger.

Lord Celebi
06-07-2007, 03:51 PM
What about the Lati twins? I heard they are uber...

Lati@s is considered uber when the Soul Dew is attached.

The Jr Trainer
06-07-2007, 03:53 PM
Lati@s is considered uber when the Soul Dew is attached.

Thta makes sence. Phione it badddddd. It is killed by Cynthis'a Lucario when it is 5 Lv higher.

Lord Celebi
06-07-2007, 06:21 PM
Thta makes sence. Phione it badddddd. It is killed by Cynthis'a Lucario when it is 5 Lv higher.

I can see it could have some use if it were EV Trained properly, which undoubtably, yours was not.

Drift
06-07-2007, 08:15 PM
I was wondering, like Celebi or Manaphy... Are they considered Ubers? They have good stats, but certainly not overwhelming stats.

http://www.serebii.net/games/tiers.shtml
Here is a guide explaining ubers and what categorizes a Pokemon as one.
Also, if you scroll down a bit on the page, it has a list of all ubers as of late.

Mysticjason
06-07-2007, 08:35 PM
http://www.serebii.net/games/tiers.shtml
Here is a guide explaining ubers and what categorizes a Pokemon as one.
Also, if you scroll down a bit on the page, it has a list of all ubers as of late.
Hmm... So Manaphy, Jirachi and Celebi are not Ubers! Interesting... :)

Drift
06-07-2007, 08:37 PM
Hmm... So Manaphy, Jirachi and Celebi are not Ubers! Interesting... :)

Yup.
However, Wobbuffet is... o___0;

Draxai
06-07-2007, 08:46 PM
Yup.
However, Wobbuffet is... o___0;
why is wobuffet an uber??????!!! he is some normal pokemon, no way he could be uber.

Mysticjason
06-07-2007, 08:47 PM
why is wobuffet an uber??????!!! he is some normal pokemon, no way he could be uber.
It's because he is possibly the cheapest Pokemon of all. LOL

Draxai
06-07-2007, 08:49 PM
It's because he is possibly the cheapest Pokemon of all. LOL
how is he cheap?????????

Drift
06-07-2007, 08:50 PM
It's because he is possibly the cheapest Pokemon of all. LOL

They describe why in the link I provided a few posts ago.
It actually makes decent sense if you read the whole guide. :wink:

Draxai
06-07-2007, 08:53 PM
he has good stats, but what is his "trait"?

MagmarMan
06-07-2007, 11:18 PM
To me, it all depends on the stats that a pokemon has. Wicked unfair stats are uber and semi-normal are ok.

Cybernetic Ghost
06-08-2007, 12:05 AM
why is wobuffet an uber??????!!! he is some normal pokemon, no way he could be uber.

Easy. Because Wobuffet+skilled player=loldeadpokemon.

But yeah, Deoxys, Mew, and Lati@s are considered ubers, Phione, Manaphy, Jirachi and Celebi are not. Deoxys because, its base stat may be 600, which still is GREAT, but the way its stats are distributed=godly. Mew=Ultimate versatility obviously. And Lati@s because Soul Dew=godly. Manaphy, Jirachi and Celebi are GREAT, but they're not uber tbh.