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DancinPurpleNinetales
10-20-2004, 06:33 AM
i just wondered how many people on here are vegitarian/ vegan if any? im vegitarian working towards vegan. and to all of you that are not i would just like to say when you go vegitarian you are helping the planet, your health and stoping the unnessery suffering of animals

oh and visit here...

http://www.peta2.com/p2vsk_flash/index2.html

OPEN YOUR HEARTS AND MINDS!

Matthew
10-20-2004, 07:03 AM
Well... actually it is recommended that you have meat in your diet to live a healthy life... and the more vegetarians there are, the more harm you are causing the planet because you are eating its plant life, and the food of many animals need to survive... so it can also be harmful to the world on a wide-scale perspective :cool:

Manjoume Jun
10-20-2004, 11:54 AM
I'm afraid to say that I'm a 99% salad-dodger, so the animals are gonna' have to put up with that I'm afraid.

The only veggies I eat are peas and potatoes, and as for fruit, I'm a 100% banana-guy! Nothing else!

Go, meat-feast pizza!!!

ashkelon
10-20-2004, 06:29 PM
<smiles showing fangs> Yummy. yummy, cow. slurp.

If you are willing to put the time and effort into it, HUMANS (not cats for sure) can get a reasonable protein and amino acid mix using a combination of legumes, nuts and rice. But most people won't or can't put the effort into it.

Instead they call themselves vegita...whatsits and just eat macaroni and cheese... And uh, do you still wear leather? Use glue, shampoo, crayons? Drink milk -- you know, nice cows make milk for baby cows -- not because it's fun -- and since YOU are drinking it.. those liddle cows went somewhere... And if your eggs aren't coming from free-range chickens, they aren't coming from the happy farm either.

If you are going to preach the doctrine of I'm a holy meatless whatever -- do some research and see how many products you are actually willin' to give up because there's animal in there somewhere :razz:

That said...

OK, I completely understand not eating meat because it's esthetically revolting to a person. I don't eat meat from the grocery for that reason, it smells like carrion coming out of the package -- and full of hormones, antibiotics, etc. YUCK. I do eat free range meat from animals that I know personally and know the kind and quality of life they live, and were offed in reasonably kind and stress-free ways.

Shael
10-20-2004, 08:04 PM
I've thought about it once, after I read this really disturbing article about a Korean girl who ate her boyfriend (the article had pics...) and how she wrote in her diary about how good each of his body parts tasted and stuff. I wasn't able to eat meat for a week after I read that...@_@

but I returned to normal, and as much as a veggie lover as I am, I still wouldn't be able to survive without meat

ashkelon
10-20-2004, 08:17 PM
Eeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwww! Nasty!

I had the same thing happen when I read this book about some guys that where in a plane crash somewhere in the Andes... But no pictures there, thank Hecate.

I have several snakes and other pets (as well as the dogs). I figure we are what the gods made us, I ain't going to argue with the way the snakes and the ferret are put together. I think they're pretty close to perfect they way they are. So we each eat what we eat and I'll jest enjoy it while I can :hungry:

BTW Shael, your sig quote gave me the shivers. Goood.

DancinPurpleNinetales
10-20-2004, 09:33 PM
<smiles showing fangs> Yummy. yummy, cow. slurp.

If you are willing to put the time and effort into it, HUMANS (not cats for sure) can get a reasonable protein and amino acid mix using a combination of legumes, nuts and rice. But most people won't or can't put the effort into it.

Instead they call themselves vegita...whatsits and just eat macaroni and cheese... And uh, do you still wear leather? Use glue, shampoo, crayons? Drink milk -- you know, nice cows make milk for baby cows -- not because it's fun -- and since YOU are drinking it.. those liddle cows went somewhere... And if your eggs aren't coming from free-range chickens, they aren't coming from the happy farm either.

If you are going to preach the doctrine of I'm a holy meatless whatever -- do some research and see how many products you are actually willin' to give up because there's animal in there somewhere :razz:

That said...

OK, I completely understand not eating meat because it's esthetically revolting to a person. I don't eat meat from the grocery for that reason, it smells like carrion coming out of the package -- and full of hormones, antibiotics, etc. YUCK. I do eat free range meat from animals that I know personally and know the kind and quality of life they live, and were offed in reasonably kind and stress-free ways.

i do research, i dont eat eggs or cheese or drink milk and their are cruelty free shampoos, cleaning products and such, i would never wear animal. i said i was working towards it, i somtimes use products with animal in it but the point isnt to be perfect and pure but to help end suffering the best you can. and to matthew...the land used for facotry farms could be used to grow plants and crap to feed the starving people of this world where animals cant, same goes for the massive amounts of grain the animals eat. besides if we can be healthy ww/o meat than why eat it...and im not trying to argue so dont u try , i wanted to inform u people, i dont care what u eat...i love u anyways!

ashkelon
10-20-2004, 09:49 PM
[used to grow plants and crap to feed the starving people of this world ]

Glad I'm not starving under this plan :tongue3:
plants are OK
I have serious problems with the rest of the menu :crackup:

Manjoume Jun
10-20-2004, 10:33 PM
Well, turn of events for me, today for my tea (dinner, whatever), I had mashed potato, peas and some pork.

I ate the mashed potato, ate the peas, and didn't touch the pork...

What does that make me?
It looked tasty, but I wasn't hungry!

*cracks up*

I can't do it!

VenusaurTrainer
10-21-2004, 12:16 AM
IMO being a vegitarian is not healty at all you need meat and protein in your daily life to stay healthy. If you think you can just take vitimans for the rest of your life but you still wouldn't be as healthy.

DancinPurpleNinetales
10-21-2004, 05:19 AM
IMO being a vegitarian is not healty at all you need meat and protein in your daily life to stay healthy. If you think you can just take vitimans for the rest of your life but you still wouldn't be as healthy.


im healthier than i have ever been in my life, there are many ways to get protein, i eat fake meat which has protein and is alot healthier, you shouldnt always trust society, many other natural things are full of protein as well. do some research before you challange me please. and sorry i cant spell, sue me already

EDIT: oh yeh and im not hateing on u guys so theres no need to hate on me. i need friends not enemys.

Matthew
10-21-2004, 07:13 AM
Heh. I Respect your respect for the envirometn... but I've been raised my whole life eating meat... so it would be rather difficult for me to revert to being a vegitarian. I love veggies. Just recently, I found a love for broccoli. I used to hate it... but I tried it and I was like :hungry: Yummy!!! I also like to eat some salads, and I love oragnes, grapes, watermelon, apples, banannas, pinapples, and cocunuts... heh... I try to not eat tons of meat... but I can't help it :silly:

DancinPurpleNinetales
10-21-2004, 08:02 AM
Heh. I Respect your respect for the envirometn... but I've been raised my whole life eating meat... so it would be rather difficult for me to revert to being a vegitarian. I love veggies. Just recently, I found a love for broccoli. I used to hate it... but I tried it and I was like :hungry: Yummy!!! I also like to eat some salads, and I love oragnes, grapes, watermelon, apples, banannas, pinapples, and cocunuts... heh... I try to not eat tons of meat... but I can't help it :silly:


thanks for respecting me! i was scared for a minute :silly:

Matthew
10-21-2004, 11:27 PM
No need to be scared. This community is rather kind and amiable... so don't be timid around us... we don't mean to intimidate you. Keep on postin and keep it real :P

Dragonair
10-21-2004, 11:48 PM
I can respect the choice of vegetarians and vegans because it's their life and it's no business of mine to tell them what to do. The only time vegetarians/vegans bother me is when a couple arrogant loudmouths decide it's their business to tell me how bad a person because I eat meat.

And personally I developed a strong dislike for soy products. They just taste nasty to me.

Yggdrasill
10-22-2004, 03:03 PM
me, i'm not a vegetarian, i'm glad i'm not because i don't think i could live without meat, but it's not my place to tell them what they do.

Thanatos
10-31-2004, 01:25 PM
I once had a friend who tried to force her vegetarian beliefs on me. I won the argument.

Anyway, I completely respect Vegetarians and Vegans, but all the iron and protein pills in the world aren't gonna give you what a nice big piece of meat is going to.

The only vegetarians I don't understand are "Lacto-octo vegetarians", who in reality don't like the taste of red meat, and choose to make themselves look like heroes because they don't eat beef :tongue:

Anyway....DancinPurpleNintales, for someone of your age, or to even be a vegetarian under the age of thirty, you are doing a fantastic job. Keep up the good work.

Don't take it in a condescending fashion (because I am younger then you), but don't worry about us starting arguments. Arguments are raised over more trivial things, or more innopropriate things. This is more of a discussion thread then a debate thread.

Finally, vegetarians are fine as long as they don't try and force their beliefs on you :susp:

Tamer Marco
10-31-2004, 01:54 PM
I'm afraid to say that I'm a 99% salad-dodger, so the animals are gonna' have to put up with that I'm afraid.

The only veggies I eat are peas and potatoes, and as for fruit, I'm a 100% banana-guy! Nothing else!

Go, meat-feast pizza!!! Yuck, banana's... I'm alergic... :dazed:





I don't think i'll ever become vegitarian, because i'm pretty much a carnivore, not a omnivore. Matthew's post made a good example for why we should eat meat sometimes. And most of all, I don't like those chewy soybeans! I like GREASE! And artery clogging cheeseburgers. :hungry:

DancinPurpleNinetales
10-31-2004, 09:15 PM
I once had a friend who tried to force her vegetarian beliefs on me. I won the argument.

Anyway, I completely respect Vegetarians and Vegans, but all the iron and protein pills in the world aren't gonna give you what a nice big piece of meat is going to.

The only vegetarians I don't understand are "Lacto-octo vegetarians", who in reality don't like the taste of red meat, and choose to make themselves look like heroes because they don't eat beef :tongue:

Anyway....DancinPurpleNintales, for someone of your age, or to even be a vegetarian under the age of thirty, you are doing a fantastic job. Keep up the good work.

Don't take it in a condescending fashion (because I am younger then you), but don't worry about us starting arguments. Arguments are raised over more trivial things, or more innopropriate things. This is more of a discussion thread then a debate thread.

Finally, vegetarians are fine as long as they don't try and force their beliefs on you :susp:


thank ya so mucho! i just wanna say one thing tho...not in a mean or argumentive way either but its just gotta be said lol...but u guys r seeing all the good stuff in the meat n not the bad, and there is lots of bad, even dookie is in most of it, lots of hormones n other just icky stuff that i dont wanna gross u out......again..i aint tryin to convert....just sharing :tongue:

JohtoTrainer
10-31-2004, 09:18 PM
Hey uh you know your SUPPOSED to eat meat to live a healthy life. AND Plants are living things too.

VenusaurTrainer
10-31-2004, 09:28 PM
thank ya so mucho! i just wanna say one thing tho...not in a mean or argumentive way either but its just gotta be said lol...but u guys r seeing all the good stuff in the meat n not the bad, and there is lots of bad, even dookie is in most of it, lots of hormones n other just icky stuff that i dont wanna gross u out......again..i aint tryin to convert....just sharing :tongue:

There is no cow crap in meat, I do not know where you get that from. Trust me I know I used to live on a farm and we slaughtered cows, and there is no crap that goes in the meat.

JohtoTrainer
10-31-2004, 09:31 PM
Yea, I live on a farm and there is nothing wrong with the meat we get from the slaughtered cows. If there was, farmers would be arrested :rolleyes:

Tamer Marco
10-31-2004, 11:05 PM
I think he/she may be talking about Chiterlains. You have to clean the crap out of them before you eat them unless they're already cleaned. And they taste disgusting.

DancinPurpleNinetales
11-01-2004, 05:30 AM
1.the hunger argument
Much of the world's massive hunger problems could be solved by the reduction or elimination of meat-eating. The reasons: 1) livestock pasture needs cut drastically into land which could otherwise be used to grow food; 2) vast quantities of food which could feed humans is fed to livestock raised to produce meat.

This year alone, twenty million people worldwide will die as a result of malnutrition. One child dies of malnutrition every 2.3 seconds. One hundred million people could be adequately fed using the land freed if Americans reduced their intake of meat by a mere 10%.

Twenty percent of the corn grown in the U.S. is eaten by people. Eighty percent of the corn and 95% of the oats grown in the U.S. is eaten by livestock. The percentage of protein wasted by cycling grain through livestock is calculated by experts as 90%.

One acre of land can produce 40,000 pounds of potatoes, or 250 pounds of beef. Fifty-six percent of all U.S. farmland is devoted to beef production, and to produce each pound of beef requires 16 pounds of edible grain and soybeans, which could be used to feed the hungry.

2. The Environmental Argument against meat-eating
Many of the world's massive environmental problems could be solved by the reduction or elimination of meat-eating, including global warming, loss of topsoil, loss of rainforests and species extinction.

The temperature of the earth is rising. This global warming, known as "the greenhouse effect," results primarily from carbon dioxide emissions from burning fossil fuels, such as oil and natural gas. Three times more fossil fuels must be burned to produce a meat-centered diet than for a meat-free diet. If people stopped eating meat, the threat of higher world temperatures would be vastly diminished.

Trees, and especially the old-growth forests, are essential to the survival of the planet. Their destruction is a major cause of global warming and top soil loss. Both of these effects lead to diminished food production. Meat-eating is the number one driving force for the destruction of these forests. Two-hundred and sixty million acres of U.S. forestland has been cleared for cropland to produce the meat-centered diet. Fifty-five square feet of tropical rainforest is consumed to produce every quarter-pound of rainforest beef. An alarming 75% of all U.S. topsoil has been lost to date. Eighty-five percent of this loss is directly related to livestock raising.

Another devastating result of deforestation is the loss of plant and animal species. Each year 1,000 species are eliminated due to destruction of tropical rainforests for meat grazing and other uses. The rate is growing yearly.

To keep up with U.S. consumption, 300 million pounds of meat are imported annually from Central and South America. This economic incentive impels these nations to cut down their forests to make more pastureland. The short-term gain ignores the long-term, irreparable harm to the earth's ecosystem. In effect these countries are being drained of their resources to put meat on the table of Americans while 75% of all Central American children under the age of five are undernourished.

3. The Cancer Argument against meat-eating
Those who eat flesh are far more likely to contract cancer than those following a vegetarian diet.

The risk of contracting breast cancer is 3.8 times greater for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week; 2.8 times greater for women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week; and 3.25 greater for women who eat butter and cheese 2 to 4 times a week as compared to once a week.

The risk of fatal ovarian cancer is three times greater for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week as compared with less than once a week.

The risk of fatal prostate cancer is 3.6 times greater for men who consume meat, cheese, eggs and milk daily as compared with sparingly or not at all.

4. The Cholesterol Argument against meat-eating
Here are facts showing that: 1) U.S. physicians are not sufficiently trained in the importance of the relation of diet to health; 2) meat-eaters ingest excessive amounts of cholesterol, making them dangerously susceptible to heart attacks.

It is strange, but true that U.S. physicians are as a rule ill-educated in the single most important factor of health, namely diet and nutrition. Of the 125 medical schools in the U.S., only 30 require their students to take a course in nutrition. The average nutrition training received by the average U.S. physician during four years in school is only 2.5 hours. Thus doctors in the U.S. are ill-equipped to advise their patients in minimizing foods, such as meat, that contain excessive amounts of cholesterol and are known causes of heart attack.

Heart attack is the most common cause of death in the U.S., killing one person every 45 seconds. The male meat-eater's risk of death from heart attack is 50%. The risk to men who eats no meat is 15%. Reducing one's consumption of meat, dairy and eggs by 10% reduces the risk of heart attack by 10%. Completely eliminating these products from one's diet reduces the risk of heart attack by 90%.

The average cholesterol consumption of a meat-centered diet is 210 milligrams per day. The chance of dying from heart disease if you are male and your blood cholesterol is 210 milligrams daily is greater than 50%.

5. The Natural Resources Argument against meat-eating
The world's natural resources are being rapidly depleted as a result of meat-eating.

Raising livestock for their meat is a very inefficient way of generating food. Pound for pound, far more resources must be expended to produce meat than to produce grains, fruits and vegetables. For example, more than half of all water used for all purposes in the U.S. is consumed in livestock production. The amount of water used in production of the average cow is sufficient to float a destroyer (a large naval ship). While 25 gallons of water are needed to produce a pound of wheat, 5,000 gallons are needed to produce a pound of California beef. That same 5,000 gallons of water can produce 200 pounds of wheat. If this water cost were not subsidized by the government, the cheapest hamburger meat would cost more than $35 per pound.

Meat-eating is devouring oil reserves at an alarming rate. It takes nearly 78 calories of fossil fuel (oil, natural gas, etc.) energy to produce one calory of beef protein and only 2 calories of fossil fuel energy to produce one calory of soybean. If every human ate a meat-centered diet, the world's known oil reserves would last a mere 13 years. They would last 260 years if humans stopped eating meat altogether. That is 20 times longer, giving humanity ample time to develop alternative energy sources.

Thirty-three percent of all raw materials (base products of farming, forestry and mining, including fossil fuels) consumed by the U.S. are devoted to the production of livestock, as compared with 2% to produce a complete vegetarian diet.

6. The Antibiotic Argument against meat-eating
Here are facts showing the dangers of eating meat because of the large amounts of antibiotics fed to livestock to control staphylococci (commonly called staph infections), which are becoming immune to these drugs at an alarming rate.

The animals that are being raised for meat in the United States are diseased. The livestock industry attempts to control this disease by feeding the animals antibiotics. Huge quantities of drugs go for this purpose. Of all antibiotics used in the U.S., 55% are fed to livestock.

But this is only partially effective because the bacteria that cause disease are becoming immune to the antibiotics. The percentage of staphylococci infections resistant to penicillin, for example, has grown from 13% in 1960 to 91% in 1988. These antibiotics and-or the bacteria they are intended to destroy reside in the meat that goes to market.

It is not healthy for humans to consume this meat. The response of the European Economic Community to the routine feeding of antibiotics to U.S. livestock was to ban the importation of U.S. meat. European buyers do not want to expose consumers to this serious health hazard. By comparison, U.S. meat and pharmaceutical industries gave their full and complete support to the routine feeding of antibiotics to livestock, turning a blind eye to the threat of disease to the consumer.

DancinPurpleNinetales
11-01-2004, 05:31 AM
7. The Pesticide Argument against meat-eating
Unknown to most meat-eaters, U.S.-produced meat contains dangerously high quantities of deadly pesticides.

The common belief is that the U.S. Department of Agriculture protects consumers' health through regular and thorough meat inspection. In reality, fewer than one out of every 250,000 slaughtered animals is tested for toxic chemical residues.

That these chemicals are indeed ingested by the meat-eater is proven by the following facts:

Ninety-nine percent of U.S. mother's milk contains significant levels of DDT. In stark contrast, only 8% of U.S. vegetarian mother's milk containing significant levels of DDT. This shows that the primary source of DDT is the meat ingested by the mothers.
Contamination of breast milk due to chlorinated hydrocarbon pesticides in animal products found in meat-eating mothers versus nonmeat-eating mothers is 35 times higher.
The amount of the pesticide Dieldrin ingested by the average breast-fed American infant is 9 times the permissible level.
8. The Ethical Argument against meat-eating
Many of those who have adopted a vegetarian diet have done so because of the ethical argument, either from reading about or personally experiencing what goes on daily at any one of the thousands of slaughterhouses in the U.S. and other countries, where animals suffer the cruel process of forced confinement, manipulation and violent death. Their pain and terror is beyond calculation.

The slaughterhouse is the final stop for animals raised for their flesh. These ghastly places, while little known to most meat-eaters, process enormous numbers of animals each years. In the U.S. alone, 660,000 animals are killed for meat every hour. A surprising quantity of meat is consumed by the meat-eater. The average percapita consumption of meat in the U.S., Canada and Australia is 200 pounds per year! The average American consumes in a 72-year lifetime approximately 11 cattle, 3 lambs and sheep, 23 hogs, 45 turkeys, 1,100 chickens and 862 pounds of fish! Bon appetite!

People who come in contact with slaughterhouses cannot help but be affected by what they see and hear. Those living nearby must daily experience the screams of terror and anger of the animals led to slaughter. Those working inside must also see and participate in the crimes of mayhem and murder. Most who choose this line of work are not on the job for long. Of all occupations in the U.S., slaughterhouse worker has the highest turnover rate. It also has the highest rate of on-the-job injury.



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IV. Humans Have neither Fangs nor Claws
A ninth and most compelling argument against meat-eating is that humans are physiologically not suited for a carnivorous diet. The book Food for the Spirit, Vegetarianism in the World Religions, summarizes this point of view as follows. "Many nutritionists, biologists and physiologists offer convincing evidence that humans are in fact not meant to eat flesh._" Here are seven facts in support of this view:

"Physiologically, people are more akin to plant-eaters, foragers and grazers, such as monkeys, elephants and cows, than to carnivora such as dogs, tigers and leopards."

"For example, carnivora do not sweat through their skin; body heat is controlled by rapid breathing and extrusion of the tongue. Vegetarian animals, on the other hand, have sweat pores for heat control and the elimination of impurities."

"Carnivora have long teeth and claws for holding and killing prey; vegetarian animals have short teeth and no claws."

"The saliva of carnivora contains no ptyalin and cannot predigest starches; that of vegetarian animals contains ptyalin for the predigestion of starches."

"Flesh-eating animals secrete large quantities of hydrochloric acid to help dissolve bones; vegetarian animals secrete little hydrochloric acid."

"The jaws of carnivora only open in an up and down motion; those of vegetarian animals also move sideways for additional kinds of chewing."

"Carnivora must lap liquids (like a cat); vegetarian animals take liquids in by suction through the teeth."

"There are many such comparisons, and in each case humans fit the vegetarian physiognomy. From a strictly physiological perspective, then, there are strong arguments that humans are not suited to a fleshy diet."


**i have more want it? dont believe it? ill prove it. just because i love u all and respect u very much dont meen i gots to agree with u or let u walk on me, i aint no doormat.**

p.s. did u even watch my link?

Thanatos
11-01-2004, 06:20 AM
O_o

Got Info?

I would like to point at now that even primates eat meat (monkeys and chimps), and don't have claws :goofy:

Anyways nicely put together.

DancinPurpleNinetales
11-01-2004, 08:02 AM
O_o

Got Info?

I would like to point at now that even primates eat meat (monkeys and chimps), and don't have claws :goofy:

Anyways nicely put together.


true dat homie, but dont they eat like little bugs n shiz? bugs dun really fight back , well unless they r those freaky scury ones, ugh some bugs freak my freak lol :tongue: anyways monkeys scure me :oops: and thanx for the compliment!

Thanatos
11-01-2004, 09:12 AM
Not a problem at all, compliments are my specialty :crackup:

Anyway, there is a lot of info for eating meat, and a lot against eating meat. So basically the argument will never be solved.

Dragonair
11-01-2004, 04:39 PM
I'll admit DPN (may I call you that?) you do raise a compelling arguement. I think the reason humans as well as other primates eat meat is because we are foragers by nature. Long before we discovered agriculture we had to live off the land by eating berries, roots and yes any poor animal we happened to find.

However with agriculture, we humans have no need to forage thus no need to to eat meat. There will come a day when humans will be forced to be vegetarian but that day won't be coming for a long, long time.

ashkelon
11-01-2004, 04:49 PM
true dat homie, but dont they eat like little bugs n shiz? bugs dun really fight back , well unless they r those freaky scury ones, ugh some bugs freak my freak lol :tongue: anyways monkeys scure me :oops: and thanx for the compliment!


Having passed on reading the earlier phone-book sized post <yawn is it over yet> and comparing the lack of grammer...

All I can say is

save the bandwith and just post the stinkin' link next time. Doy.

pretty obvious parrotry.

DancinPurpleNinetales
11-01-2004, 09:16 PM
Having passed on reading the earlier phone-book sized post <yawn is it over yet> and comparing the lack of grammer...

All I can say is

save the bandwith and just post the stinkin' link next time. Doy.

pretty obvious parrotry.

it was actually somthing me and some friends did for a project mr. assumption :rolleyes: . i just used it so i didnt have to type everything out again. i know i am a horriable speller, god bless spell check and good f riends who know somthin about grammer!


i likey what u said dragionair. :biggrin:

ashkelon
11-02-2004, 06:59 PM
http://www.ivu.org/religion/articles/argument3.html

Well, not to bang on the stoopid drum, but your entire argument, literally (meaning word for word) was lifted from this page.

International Vegetarian Union (http://www.ivu.org/religion/articles/argument3.html)

and bears this at the bottom of the page

"Everything on this website is copyright International Vegetarian Union, unless stated otherwise"

Either u n uz hommiez supplied the text to them, or you shoulda got busted for plagerism when you turned that cut-n-pasted drek in, Missy I-Hope-The-Rest-Of-The-World-KAND-GOOGLZ


I'm willing to listen to anybody talk about their own experience and opinion, just don't lie about it.

DUH.

DancinPurpleNinetales
11-02-2004, 08:48 PM
ok look i truely appoligize and am embarressed. i did not know it was from a website but i talked to my friend who supposedly typed it up for us, after we spent days gathering info and she admitted she stole it from a site. im ****** pissed at her rite now because i spent days looking up info and now know that she didnt even use it. u dont have to believe me and i could care less if u do or dont, im leaving to a more mentally stimulating and active board anyways

ashkelon
11-02-2004, 09:01 PM
Whatever, I don't care much one way or the other. Look, the internet is one mess of smoke and mirrors anyway, there's absolutely no reason to add to the drek already misrepresented there. Why lie. That's a no brainer, unless you are a fundamentally immoral person. Learn to be real before it bites you in the @ss someday.

DancinPurpleNinetales
11-02-2004, 09:16 PM
Whatever, I don't care much one way or the other. Look, the internet is one mess of smoke and mirrors anyway, there's absolutely no reason to add to the drek already misrepresented there. Why lie. That's a no brainer, unless you are a fundamentally immoral person. Learn to be real before it bites you in the @ss someday.


i know to be real. im probaly the realest person you'll ever meat. it funny how people choose to not believe instead of believe in the goodness of people. so lame. oh and "you warm puppy"? sounds like ur talking about somthing where the sun dont shine baby

Sudo
11-06-2004, 11:47 AM
my best mate Rozzie is a vegitarian! i dont mind at all! but i dont want to be limeted by what i can and cant eat! but its her choice and i totaly respect it!