Guide on EV training

[finallegacy]

This guide is specifically on the Training for EV's, there are now links to lists of the pokemon and what EV they give, and where they are located in the guide. Please leave any questions, comments, concerns, complaints, or compliments :biggrin:.

Explanations of EV’s:

When your pokemon defeats other pokemon, not only does it gain experience points from them, but they also gain another kind of point called EV (Effor Values). There are 6 kinds of EV's, one for each stat: HP, Attack, Defense, Sp. Attack, Sp. Defense, and Speed. Each kind of pokemon you defeat will give you a certain number of EV's for a certain stat.

An example would be defeating a rattata gives you 1 EV in Speed while defeating a gengar gives you 3 EV's in Sp. Attack.
A list of all the pokemon and what EV's they give you can be found on bulbapedia here (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_effort_value_yield)

When you gain 4 EV’s for a certain stat, that will give you an extra overall stat point when your pokemon reaches level 100.
Example: Lets say a pikachu with 0 EV's in speed at level 100 will have a speed stat of 200. So a pikachu with 4 EV's in speed at level 100 will then have 201 speed.

Limitations of EV’s:

However, there is a limit to how many EV’s your pokemon can gain. You can gain a maximum of 255 EV points in a single stat, and 510 EV points overall. However, because 255 is not divisible by 4, it is more logical to give it a maximum of only 252 EV’s instead, since it’s the next highest number divisible by 4.

So this translates to a maximum of 63 extra stat points in a single stat when your pokemon reaches level 100. And by giving only 252 instead of 255 in a stat, this allows to max out 2 stats of their EV points, and leave 6 possible EV's left over for another stat. However, you don't have to choose 2 stats and max their EV's, the spread of the EV's you choose can vary widely, so many people put a certain number of EV's in certain stats depending on their strategy.


Vitamins:

Other methods of gaining EV’s include using those expensive vitamins. How those vitamins work is that they give your pokemon 10 EV points in the stats they increase. Your pokemon can only take up to 10 of each kind of vitamin, so you can gain a maximum of 100 EV’s in each stat from vitamins. The vitamins are:

HP Up: HP
Protein: Attack
Iron: Defense
Calcium: Special Attack
Zinc: Special Defense
Carbos: Speed

However, when you use vitamins, the EV's they give you can't exceed the first 100 EV's of your pokemon's stats. So for example, if I gained 50 EV's in speed from battling, then I would only be able to use 5 Carbos because I can only use that many before my speed EV's exceed 100.

Other Methods and Hold Items:

Also, any pokemon who gains experience from the killed pokemon, will gain the EV’s from them. Which means, you can enter a fight with one pokemon, switch it out, kill it with another pokemon, and the first pokemon you entered the battle with would gain the EV’s as well, because it gained experience from the killed pokemon..

That method also includes pokemon holding the exp. share, this way, the pokemon holding it does not even have to enter battle to gain the EV’s.

There are also ways you can gain EV’s more efficiently. One is using several kinds of hold items. First, there is the macho brace, which you get from Pastoria City. When your pokemon holds this, the EV points they gain from battling are doubled. So killing a rattata while holding the macho brace would give you 2 EV points in speed instead of 1.

There are also other items your pokemon can hold to gain EV’s effectively. I actually suggest these over the macho brace. What these items do is they add an extra 4 EV’s of a certain stat to the EV points you gain from battle. These items are:

Power Anklet: +4 EV speed
Power Band: +4 EV sp. def
Power Belt: +4 EV def
Power Bracer: +4 EV attack
Power Lens: +4 EV sp. Attack
Power Weight: +4 EV HP

You gain these items from the point exchange place at the battle tower. So if you fight a rattata while holding the Power Anklet, you will gain 5 EV points for speed when you defeat it instead of 1. Or, if you fight the rattata while holding the power weight, you will gain 1 EV point for speed, and 4 EV points for HP.

Pokerus:

One last method is that your pokemon can randomly contract a virus called Pokerus. The lady at the pokemon center will tell you if any of your pokemon in your party has pokerus and there will be a little purple box on the bottom right of its picture. When your pokemon contracts it, all the EV points it gains from battle will be doubled for now on. And the best thing about pokerus is, is that it is contagious. You can spread it to other pokemon in your party just by battling, and eventually, your other pokemon will have the virus as well.

However, there is a limited amount of time you have for your pokemon to spread the virus. When that time is up, a little smiley face will appear on the lower right of its picture, and it will no longer be able to spread it, but it will still gain double amount of EV’s from battle. You could technically stop time for the virus, by keeping it inside a storage box. It won’t be able to spread the virus, but the time limit won’t expend when it is in there.

Reducing EV’s:

There are also ways to reduce the number of EV’s you have. This is useful incase you accidentally gained the wrong kind of EV’s or something. They are all berries, and they reduce the EV by 10 points when you use them on the pokemon. They are:

Hit Point EV: Pomeg Berry
Attack EV: Kelpsy Berry
Defense EV: Qualot Berry
Sp. Attack EV: Hondew berry
Sp. Defense EV: Grepa berry
Speed EV: Tamato Berry.

Which pokemon gives what EV's?

I'm working on this section, but there are a bunch of guides out there that tell you what EV's each poke gives you

Controversy of rare candies and day care:

Many people think that using either of those 2 methods would be bad for your pokemon. Which really is not necessarily true. The only reason you may see not as much stat growth from these methods is because they don't give you any EV's. So as long as you have gained, or going to gain, your maximum amount of EV's, there is no harm to level them using these methods. It's actually what I do in fact.


Confusion about EV’s:

There are many pieces of information many people get confused on regarding EV’s. Some people say that when you gain EV’s, you will gain all the extra stat points you earned the next time you level up, this is not true.

This may seem so because if you start EV training, you may see a significantly larger increase of the stat you are training in, when you level up. It all really depends on what level your pokemon was when it started EV’s training. When you EV train, the leveling up system tries to spread the extra stat points you earn, throughout all the 100 levels.

So if you started EV training when your pokemon is level 1, and even if you somehow gain all 510 EV’s before it levels up to level 2, you would not notice any significant increase in stats because the leveling up system spreads all of those extra stat points you earned throughout the leveling process.

However, if you instead started gaining EV’s when your pokemon is level 50, you would notice a significant increase in stats, because the leveling up systems would then give you all of those extra stats points you would have earned up until now, if you had gained those EV’s in earlier levels.

Some people have also asked me how many EV's they would get if they had pokerus while holding the items. Well, first, you calculate the number of EV's you get from the items alone, then pokerus would double it all. So for examle, if you were holding a power anklet, and killed a rattata, you would gain 5 speed EV points, then pokerus would double it, and so that would then give you a total of 10 EV speed points for killing one rattata.

Don't copy and paste this guide anywhere! But you can still link if you want.

[berlinwall121]

wow, nice guide, it must have taken forever to write, serebii has a list of what evs every pokemon can give u, copy/paste this into ur guide http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-dp/ if you want to tell people where to go to look at what evs battling dif pokemon will give them :biggrin:

[finallegacy]

Hmm, that sounds good, thanks for the suggestions.

[scottie9]

Hmm, that sounds good, thanks for the suggestions.
great guide, but i have a question, would attack EV training a lvl 50 pokemon result in better attack stats at lvl 100? Or would training a lvl 1 pokemon get better stats, or does it not matter???

I understand how they would be more drastic, but overall, would they be the same?

[Flan]

great guide, but i have a question, would attack EV training a lvl 50 pokemon result in better attack stats at lvl 100? Or would training a lvl 1 pokemon get better stats, or does it not matter???

I understand how they would be more drastic, but overall, would they be the same?

It would be the same stats at LV100 even if you EV'd a Pokemon at LV1 or at LV50.

[The Jr Trainer]

great guide, but i have a question, would attack EV training a lvl 50 pokemon result in better attack stats at lvl 100? Or would training a lvl 1 pokemon get better stats, or does it not matter???

I understand how they would be more drastic, but overall, would they be the same?

I does not matter

[CMEW]

question if my front pokemon is hold macho brace and my second pokemon have exp share,will the pokemon holding exp share get double the points still

[finallegacy]

question if my front pokemon is hold macho brace and my second pokemon have exp share,will the pokemon holding exp share get double the points still

Ahh, I had this exact same question when I was learning about EV's. But the answer is no. The one holding the macho brace will get double, but the one holding the exp share will only get the normal amount.

[Jiraiya72]

Good guide..My only question is how do you tell how many EV you have already etc?

[finallegacy]

Good guide..My only question is how do you tell how many EV you have already etc?

Sadly, if you haven't been keeping track of your EV's, you can't find out how many they have. You could use those EV reducing berries to take off all of your EV's, but since we don't know what EV's your pokemon have, who knows how many you will need. If you want to EV train, I suggest you start with a new pokemon.

[Furyflame]

If you use an exp. share while battling a pokemon that gives one EV to each of your pokemon get 1 EV?

[PokeBugMaster]

if i fight a bibarel which gives +2 attack points...and my guy has pokerus and macho brace..would that mean i get 8 points?

[finallegacy]

If you use an exp. share while battling a pokemon that gives one EV to each of your pokemon get 1 EV?

All the pokemon who gain experience from the battle, including the one holding the exp share, will get the EV's the pokemon gives you.


if i fight a bibarel which gives +2 attack points...and my guy has pokerus and macho brace..would that mean i get 8 points?

yes! 2 EV's * 2 (macho brace) * 2 (pokerus) = 8 EV's

[Furyflame]

Ok, buit when you use exp. share and and odd amount EVs split the pokemon with exp. share will get the short end of the stick right?

[finallegacy]

Ok, buit when you use exp. share and and odd amount EVs split the pokemon with exp. share will get the short end of the stick right?

EV's aren't split between them. They all get the amount of EV's that the pokemon gives you. If I kill a gravellar, which gives 2 def EV's, and one pokemon is holding the exp share, both of the pokemon will get 2 EV's :razz:

[PokeBugMaster]

Ok, buit when you use exp. share and and odd amount EVs split the pokemon with exp. share will get the short end of the stick right?
1. lets say i start ev training and i got 42 EV points in attack, then i realize i forgot to add proteins. is it true that u cannot add porteins, calcium, etc...after u started EV training.

2.can i add 10 proteins AND 10 calciums to one pokemon?

[Furyflame]

It's not true you can still use them.

[finallegacy]

1. lets say i start ev training and i got 42 EV points in attack, then i realize i forgot to add proteins. is it true that u cannot add porteins, calcium, etc...after u started EV training.

2.can i add 10 proteins AND 10 calciums to one pokemon?

not sure what this question has anything to do with the thing you quoted on, but anyways...

1. yes you can still use them. Saying that you can't use vitamins after you've gained EV's, is the same as saying you can't using vitamins because you've battled other pokemon before.

2. Yes, you can add up to 10 of each vitamin to a single pokemon.

[Furyflame]

EV's aren't split between them. They all get the amount of EV's that the pokemon gives you. If I kill a gravellar, which gives 2 def EV's, and one pokemon is holding the exp share, both of the pokemon will get 2 EV's :razz:
Yay! That's more productive.

[troacctid]

2. Yes, you can add up to 10 of each vitamin to a single pokemon.
Note, however, that vitamins can't be used if it would bring the Pokémon's EVs to above 100. So in this case, you could only use 5 Proteins, because the sixth one would give the Pokémon 102 attack EVs, which it can't.

[finallegacy]

Note, however, that vitamins can't be used if it would bring the Pokémon's EVs to above 100. So in this case, you could only use 5 Proteins, because the sixth one would give the Pokémon 102 attack EVs, which it can't.

Hmm, I never knew about that, where did you find this information, I must go see.

[troacctid]

Hmm, I never knew about that, where did you find this information, I must go see.
I've heard of it before when I first learned about EVs, and when I tried to overfeed an already-trained poke, it happened, so I confirmed it.

[magentaman]

I've heard of it before when I first learned about EVs, and when I tried to overfeed an already-trained poke, it happened, so I confirmed it.
its true, tis common knowledge amongst serious ev trainers

[finallegacy]

its true, tis common knowledge amongst serious ev trainers

Alright, I was going to test this out myself, but I guess having a third party support this is enough.

[xCJ]

Thank You So Much

[finallegacy]

your welcome, and if you have any questions, just post them on the guide

[The Jr Trainer]

I have a 'Q'. Okay where is a good TRAINER to fight to gain EVs in attack?

[troacctid]

I have a 'Q'. Okay where is a good TRAINER to fight to gain EVs in attack?
Try PI Carlos on Route 214. He has a Goldeen and two Seaking. That's 5 attack EVs. With Pokérus, 10; with Power Bracer, 19; and with both, 38.

[finallegacy]

I have a 'Q'. Okay where is a good TRAINER to fight to gain EVs in attack?

Well on route 203, there a Lass trainer with a level 38 Staraptor and a level 38 Bibarrel, which gives you 5 EV total. However, I think it's better to fight wild pokemon cause they occur more often and you'll gain EV's faster.

The location of the trainer was from spr bhav's EV guide, so if you want a good EV training spot, refer to his guide, but if you just want to learn about EV's, use my guide, BECAUSE MY GUIDE IS BETTER!!!

I can say that because spr bhav never comes online anymore :biggrin:. Otherwise, that's just ego.

[The Jr Trainer]

Try PI Carlos on Route 214. He has a Goldeen and two Seaking. That's 5 attack EVs. With Pokérus, 10; with Power Bracer, 19; and with both, 38.

Cool thanks, so Route 214. *Writes down 214*.

[PIERRE]

so does that mean that u want attack,speed and deffense does that mean u need to battle a different pokemon that has each ev point for those stats.:happy:

[finallegacy]

so does that mean that u want attack,speed and deffense does that mean u need to battle a different pokemon that has each ev point for those stats.:happy:

Correct, each kind of pokemon gives a certain amount and kind of EV point. So you would have to fight certain kinds of pokemon to get Attack EV's, other certain kinds for speed, and other certain kinds for def.

[SaySai]

so your saying if i killed a gyrados and i had a pokemon holding exp share the pokemon holding exp share would get the 2atk as well?

alrite so i can just take a lvl1 pokemon use a lvl100 pokemon kill like 20-30 gyrados and its atk ev would be done?

[finallegacy]

so your saying if i killed a gyrados and i had a pokemon holding exp share the pokemon holding exp share would get the 2atk as well?

yeah

[SaySai]

alrite sweet this'll b easy ev training then, once i get atk max then speed max i can train on w/e i want to right?

[finallegacy]

alrite sweet this'll b easy ev training then, once i get atk max then speed max i can train on w/e i want to right?

well, once you max 2 stats, there will be at most 6 EV points left before you reach your overall maximum EV amount of 510. So that's only 1 stat point, so it wouldn't matter that much.

[PIERRE]

where do u get these Power Anklet: +4 EV speed
Power Band: +4 EV sp. def
Power Belt: +4 EV def
Power Bracer: +4 EV attack
Power Lens: +4 EV sp. Attack
Power Weight: +4 EV HP

[finallegacy]

where do u get these Power Anklet: +4 EV speed
Power Band: +4 EV sp. def
Power Belt: +4 EV def
Power Bracer: +4 EV attack
Power Lens: +4 EV sp. Attack
Power Weight: +4 EV HP

you get them from the battle tower bp exchange.

[takeru takaishi]

would you get eves from defeting your own pokemon

[Chuey]

would you get eves from defeting your own pokemon

Yes you would, as long as that pokemon receives experience points, I believe this is generally the rule of thumb for EVs. Although it doesn't seem very ideal in the way that you would have to go to the poke centre each time...=x lol.

If The Pokemon Receives EXP. It Will Receive EVs.


P.s Nice guide, (I'm new around here) and I think it would be cool if you provided good EV training spots, this is something even Serebii doesn't have =).
I have a couple:
Special Defence - Surf, while killing Tentacools (Route 213)
HP - Bidoofs at Verity Lakefront?
Attack - Machokes in Victory Road
Sp.Att - Ghastly/Haunter in the Haunted Mansion
Speed - Surf in Victory Road, killing Golbats (good Exp. too.)

But I'm sure there are many more locations.

[SunFlora]

Thanks for the guide :happy: I didn't need the Ev training before coz my teams in previous versions have good states but now I'm shocked coz my team in Pearl after reaching level 100 their defense/SD isn't realy what they suppose to be , I dont know why so I wana understand this perfectly , please help :sad:


When you gain 4 EV’s for a certain stat, that will give you an extra overall stat point when your pokemon reaches level 100.
Example, a rattata gives you 1 EV point on speed when you defeat it. When you kill 4 rattatas, that will give you an overall, 1 extra stat point when your pokemon reaches level 100.
I still dont get this :oops: do you mean if I battle wild pokemon in Grass , a pokemon states will get higher ? I did notice that when I train a pokemon with wild pokemon in the Grass , he gets like 5 or sometimes 6 in one of his states but once the pokemon turns level 70 I train him with the elite 4 over & over & his states doesn't get 5 or 6 like before ( when trained with wild pokemon )


HP Up: HP
Protein: Attack
Iron: Defense
Calcium: Special Attack
Zinc: Special Defense
Carbos: Speed

I didn't know that its ok to use them , coz I heard around pokemon gold & silver time that once u use them , they reduce the chance of getting 5 or 6 in each state from leveling up


Also, any pokemon who gains experience from the killed pokemon, will gain the EV’s from them. Which means, you can enter a fight with one pokemon, switch it out, kill it with another pokemon, and the first pokemon you entered the battle with would gain the EV’s as well, because it gained experience from the killed pokemon..
That method also includes pokemon holding the exp. share, this way, the pokemon holding it does not even have to enter battle to gain the EV’s.
you mean if I trained a pokemon holding Exp share thats not even fighting in battle, he's gonna get higher states then normal training ??

Thanks again :happy:

[finallegacy]

Thanks for the guide :happy: I didn't need the Ev training before coz my teams in previous versions have good states but now I'm shocked coz my team in Pearl after reaching level 100 their defense/SD isn't realy what they suppose to be , I dont know why so I wana understand this perfectly , please help :sad:


I still dont get this :oops: do you mean if I battle wild pokemon in Grass , a pokemon states will get higher ? I did notice that when I train a pokemon with wild pokemon in the Grass , he gets like 5 or sometimes 6 in one of his states but once the pokemon turns level 70 I train him with the elite 4 over & over & his states doesn't get 5 or 6 like before ( when trained with wild pokemon )


I didn't know that its ok to use them , coz I heard around pokemon gold & silver time that once u use them , they reduce the chance of getting 5 or 6 in each state from leveling up


you mean if I trained a pokemon holding Exp share thats not even fighting in battle, he's gonna get higher states then normal training ??

Thanks again :happy:

I'll number the answers to your questions, so you got a total of 3 questions here, okay then...

1. I don't know how to explain this clearer. When your pokemon kills an opponent pokemon, your pokemon gains the EV's that the opponent gives you when you kill it. 4 EV's of a certain stat will increase that stat by 1 point overall when your pokemon reaches level 100.

The additional stat points that the EV's give you are spread out throughout the 100 levels of leveling. So when you gain a certain amount of EV's, when you level up, you may see a slight increase in that stat raise because that is to compensate for previous levels that didn't have those new EV's you just got.

The reason why your pokemon don't level as much in higher levels is because you have already gained the maximum amount of EV's by that time, and so, your leveling up doesn't need to compensate for earlier levels since you can no longer gain anymore EV's.

2. That's bullsh*t

3. A pokemon holding the Exp. Share gains the EV's from the defeated pokemon without the need to enter battle because it still gains experience points, via exp. share. Everything that gains the experience from a defeated pokemon will also get their EV's.

[Yonowarru]

How can you tell how many EV Pokemon has in a certain stat?

[finallegacy]

How can you tell how many EV Pokemon has in a certain stat?

If you haven't been counting your EV's, then there is pretty much no way to tell how many EV points it has. There are those berries to reduce your EV's, but its better to just start over and a new pokemon and EV train it.

[SunFlora]

The reason why your pokemon don't level as much in higher levels is because you have already gained the maximum amount of EV's by that time, and so, your leveling up doesn't need to compensate for earlier levels since you can no longer gain anymore EV's.

Thanks , I finally got it :happy:

[slashy]

OH!(i am such a retard....) i thought you could get 255 in each and every stan, and didnt know of 510 limit. so thats why my castforms stoped gitting +17 in areas after i spped and defence trained, and the berry thing is more usefull then i thought!

[finallegacy]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6183/evob3.png OK i'm a n00b at Ev so when i kill a pokemon ex rattata gives +1 so that mean the +1 On the screenshot and also should max only the to stats the right best like speed for a pokemon that is fast plz help me ty :)

please use punctuation marks, I can barely understand what you're trying to say, and if I understand somewhat of what you're saying, I think all of those questions are already answered on the guide, but just rewrite your question please so I can help you better.

[finallegacy]

SORRY ABOUT THAT! http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6183/evob3.png OK i'm a n00b at Ev.MY question isIS the speed +1 on this screenshot is those the ev points so also should max only the to stats the right best like speed for a pokemon that is fast plz help me ty :) PS if i start from 1 will i have stats than if i started at ex 56

sorry, but that wasn't any easier to understand, USE PUNCTUATION MARKS!

But i'll try to answer your question if I understand them, though, they are answered in the guide. That +1 is a stat point, that's what determines how much your stats increased when you leveled up.

Each pokemon you kill will give you a certain amount of EV points for a certain stat, and a 4 EV points for a certain stat will give that stat 1 extra stat point. So for example, if you killed 4 rattatas, which each give you 1 EV point for speed, that would give an extra stat point in speed.

your other questions I don't understand, plz use punctuation marks this time, you basically repeated what you said before

[takeru takaishi]

i know for a fact the ev points dont build up to level 100 for every 4 ev points you get it means +1 to a stat the next time it levels up

sorry but no one can arguee with the fact that they dont build up to level hundred becuse both my ryquaza and typhlosion proved other wise typhlsion when up 10 sp attak staus and ryqaza did go up much when it got to level 100

[Kick the Moon]

i know for a fact the ev points dont build up to level 100 for every 4 ev points you get it means +1 to a stat the next time it levels up

sorry but no one can arguee with the fact that they dont build up to level hundred becuse both my ryquaza and typhlosion proved other wise typhlsion when up 10 sp attak staus and ryqaza did go up much when it got to level 100

If you EV train it at a low level and finish at, say, level 20, you'll see that there's not a big difference in stat gains.

However, once it becomes level 100, you'll notice a signifigant(sp?) increase of statas you gain on level up.

I think.

(I used so much big words :eek:)

[finallegacy]

i know for a fact the ev points dont build up to level 100 for every 4 ev points you get it means +1 to a stat the next time it levels up

sorry but no one can arguee with the fact that they dont build up to level hundred becuse both my ryquaza and typhlosion proved other wise typhlsion when up 10 sp attak staus and ryqaza did go up much when it got to level 100

you apparently didn't read the whole guide because I answered this question. 4 EV points does note equal +1 extra stat point when you level up, its overall when you reach level 100. The reason why you gain a lot of stat points when you level up is because you pokemon was not at a very low level when you started EV training, and the leveling had to compensate for the levels before that didn't have the EV's you just recieved.

I've been getting a lot of questions that the guide already answers, plz read the entire guide before posting questions.

[finallegacy]

HI, I did it! I EV trained two stat but how would I put the 6 extra EV's to HP with the poweranklet? What pokemon and how many? thank you for your time :) P>S. Once I do that I should get the effort ribbon then rare candy it to level 100?

first of all, you should use the power weight for hp, and kill a gastrodon near the pal park which gives you 2 Hp EV points. You really only need 4 EV points to get the stat point though

[gasclouds]

where do you get this power wieght?

[finallegacy]

you get all of the power items from the battle tower point exchange place for prizes

[Encore]

You may already know this but there is a way to check if you've maxed out and used up all 510 EV's. Go to Sunyshore Market and the girl and talk to the girl on the left with your lead pokemon maxed out on EV's. If you have used up all 510 EV's, she will give your pokemon an Effort ribbon. Only problem is, you can't check WHICH stats have EV's in them and HOW MANY EV's are in each stat.

[Ture pokemon master]

Hi, I finished my EV traning. I know I can level it to 100 , but my question is is there a difference if I use rare candies or just leveling it up?

[finallegacy]

Hi, I finished my EV traning. I know I can level it to 100 , but my question is is there a difference if I use rare candies or just leveling it up?

once you maxed out your EV's, then there won't be a difference from using rare candies or training normally. But you don't really need to level it to level 100 because of the level cap options when you play on wifi

[Every Villian Is Lemons]

Good guide. I was wondering how to get ev pokes.

[finallegacy]

Good guide. I was wondering how to get ev pokes.

What do you mean by EV pokes?

[NomadicHobo]

If I read this yesterday, it really would of helped my Jolten >.< Anyway, nice guide ^^

[Zeon21]

If I ev train a pokemon then use rare candy to level it to lv99, will it get all its ev's if normally train it to lv100.

[troacctid]

If I ev train a pokemon then use rare candy to level it to lv99, will it get all its ev's if normally train it to lv100.
It won't get any EVs if it already has 510. Pokémon can't get more than 510 EVs regardless of whether you give them Rare Candies. Even if they didn't have 510, Rare Candies would neither remove the ones you have, nor would they decrease the maximum, nor would they make the EVs you have somehow "not count." Rare Candies don't affect EVs in the slightest. They're in completely different camps.

[Zeon21]

I wanted to know if the ev's would be applied from that one normal level up (not leveling to 100 with candies)

[troacctid]

I wanted to know if the ev's would be applied from that one normal level up (not leveling to 100 with candies)
Here is the formula for calculating a stat other than HP:
(((basestat * 2 + EV/4 + IV) * level/100) + 5) * nature
(For HP, replace the 5 with the level + 10, and leave out the nature. Note also that all fractions are rounded down in stat calculation.)

When a Pokémon levels up, the game doesn't "apply EVs." It plugs a new level into the formula, and recalculates the stats without changing anything else. A level-up will always be the same, whether it came from battling, a Rare Candy, or the Daycare Center in Solaceon. A Pokémon's level and its EVs are 2 separate factors in determining stats, and neither has any effect on the other.

[Zeon21]

so your saying:
If I max out a pokemon attack stat by the time its lv20 (its ev's haven't all been applied).
Then I level it with rare candy to level lv99(ev's aren't applied when useing candies).
Then I level it to lv100 in battle.
It wont have all its remaining ev's applied in that one level up.

[troacctid]

so your saying:
If I max out a pokemon attack stat by the time its lv20 (its ev's haven't all been applied).
Then I level it with rare candy to level lv99(ev's aren't applied when useing candies).
Then I level it to lv100 in battle.
It wont have all its remaining ev's applied in that one level up.
No, that isn't what said. I said that EVs and level are two entirely different factors in calculating stats, and one is unaffected by the other.

[Zeon21]

finallegacy said that the ev's are applied over gradual leveling ecept when using candies. so wouldn't that mean their related. He also said that if for example a lv50 pokemon was ev trained it would gain more points per level up than a lv20 pokemon. So wouldn't the lv99 pokemon have its remaining ev's applied.

[troacctid]

finallegacy said that the ev's are applied over gradual leveling ecept when using candies. so wouldn't that mean their related. He also said that if for example a lv50 pokemon was ev trained it would gain more points per level up than a lv20 pokemon. So wouldn't the lv99 pokemon have its remaining ev's applied.
That is true. This is because you multiply the EVs by the level divided by 100 when you calculate stats. So EVs have a greater effect on higher-leveled Pokémon than lower-leveled ones. EVs affect a lv100 Pokémon twenty times more than a lv5 Pokémon. So it's understandable why high-level Pokémon see greater increases from EVs.

But like I said, EVs aren't applied in level-ups. Levels are applied in level-ups. EVs are a separate part of stat calculation. They are both related because they are different elements of the same equation.

[Zeon21]

so in other word the pokemon wont get the remaining ev's. crap so much for that training method. thanks

[troacctid]

so in other word the pokemon wont get the remaining ev's. crap so much for that training method. thanks
No, don't you get it? It already has the EVs. It has them no matter what level it is. And its stats will gradually become more affected by them. But that's different from saying that every level, a certain number of EVs are added to your stats.

Sigh. Yes, the EVs will be added to your stats. They'll be added to your stats no matter what level you are or how you level up. That's because EVs are added to your stats independently from your level. It's not the EVs that are affected by level. Level affects stats. EVs affect stats. They both affect the same thing, only they do it in different ways.

[Ulazlo]

i don't know how i'm supposed to explain this except for try it out and see that when you do it your stats go skyrocketing and when you compare it to other good pokes like ubers and legends you find your normal guy who has been ev trained is better than them not ev trained.

[dark_mon09]

Great Job! This tread is good for learning ev training.

[jackass2911]

i love this guide its really help ful i vote 4 it to be sticked lol

[troacctid]

I just noticed that you linked directly to a GameFAQs guide. You're not supposed to do that. They prefer it if you link to the FAQ page for the game itself instead.

[xCCx Angel]

O.K just a quick example

catch haunter lv 46 on friends file, rare candy to lv 89 and trade to my file, give it pokerus and power lens, have 33 fights, now is that enough to max out the sp atk e.v and will only see the difference with e.v trained pokemon at lv 100.

Also can i have the 33 fights to max out sp atk then the 33 fights to max out speed with a level 1 ghastly using switch outs and rare candy to 100 after that and still see the full effects of e.v training

All help much apprieciated as i havnt played to this level of training since red and blue

[troacctid]

O.K just a quick example

catch haunter lv 46 on friends file, rare candy to lv 89 and trade to my file, give it pokerus and power lens, have 33 fights, now is that enough to max out the sp atk e.v and will only see the difference with e.v trained pokemon at lv 100.

Also can i have the 33 fights to max out sp atk then the 33 fights to max out speed with a level 1 ghastly using switch outs and rare candy to 100 after that and still see the full effects of e.v training

All help much apprieciated as i havnt played to this level of training since red and blue
Scenario one: You have a Gengar with no EVs. You fight with him until he has 255 EVs in SA. Once he gains a level and his stats are recalculated, assuming his nature is neutral to SA, his special attack will be about (255/4 * 90/100) higher than if he had no EVs. (That's an extra 56 stat points.) This, of course, will be recalculated every level until the level is maxed out and the difference in stats is (255/4 * 100/100), or 63.

Scenario two: You have a gastly with 255 EVs in SP and 255 in SA. By the time he becomes a lv100 Gengar, all other things being equal, he will have the exact same stats as the Gengar in scenario one.

Remember, stats recalculate completely every time you level-up. It doesn't matter when you get your EVs; it only matters how many you have.

How did you get 33 fights, by the way? That's more than you need if you have Pokérus and a power item.

[Uber Platinum]

Nice guide. It's very imformative.

[Zerofire]

Great guide man. Its pretty sweet :P