lvl 50 battle frontier team

[yourtrippinsweetie]

hii
i need help with my team thats lvl 50
i just rose them up yesterday and i need reccomendations on thelm

gengar lvl 50 item magnet
psychic
shadowball
thunderbolt
destiny bond

milotic lvl 50 item mystic water
surf
hydro pump
ice beam
recover

arcanine lvl 50 item charcoal
flamethrower
extreme speed
iron tail
fire blast

thx

[politoed123]

hii
i need help with my team thats lvl 50
i just rose them up yesterday and i need reccomendations on thelm

gengar lvl 50 item magnet
psychic
shadowball
thunderbolt
destiny bond

milotic lvl 50 item mystic water
surf
hydro pump
ice beam
recover

arcanine lvl 50 item charcoal
flamethrower
extreme speed
iron tail
fire blast

thx


Hmm For Gengar have leftovers as item good move set

Milotic doesnt need Hydrop pump it sucks and u already have surf so like safe gaurd maby and have leftovers with it. Arcanine needs leftovers too and no fire blast it sucks with low accuracy like hydrop pump.

[Team Pokemon]

Hmm For Gengar have leftovers as item good move set

Milotic doesnt need Hydrop pump it sucks and u already have surf so like safe gaurd maby and have leftovers with it. Arcanine needs leftovers too and no fire blast it sucks with low accuracy like hydrop pump.

I think you can't have the same item twice.

[yourtrippinsweetie]

I think you can't have the same item twice.

yeah thats right
you can only have one of an item
and should i replace destiny bond with fire punch or ice punch or something like that?

[Team Pokemon]

If you want. But Milotic and Arcanine cover both ice and fire type moves. Destiny bond on the other hand may be useful in case of an unbeatable pokemon that milotic or arcanine wouldn't stand a chance.

[PokePwnage 24-7]

mix up the movesets more for one thing

[skipper585]

hii
i need help with my team thats lvl 50
i just rose them up yesterday and i need reccomendations on thelm

gengar lvl 50 item magnet
psychic
shadowball
thunderbolt
destiny bond

milotic lvl 50 item mystic water
surf
hydro pump
ice beam
recover

arcanine lvl 50 item charcoal
flamethrower
extreme speed
iron tail
fire blast

thx
preetty good just remove archanies iron tail with overheat but it doesnt really matter

[PaPeRpLaNe]

gengar lvl 50
psychic
shadowball
thunderbolt
Ice Beam/ Ice Punch

milotic lvl 50 Leftovers
surf
Rest
ice beam
Sleep Talk

aranine lvl 50
Howl
extreme speed
EQ
Overheat



*shrug*

[waltzh]

Can Arcanine learn Earthquake?

I don't think so. :ermm:

[yourtrippinsweetie]

Can Arcanine learn Earthquake?

I don't think so. :ermm:

yeah im pretty sure he cant learn it cuz i tryed to teach it to him but no go : /

[The Jr Trainer]

Is it possible for you to get a LatiAs and Soul Dew the Item. If so just use that. It PWNs the whole BT.

[yourtrippinsweetie]

Is it possible for you to get a LatiAs and Soul Dew the Item. If so just use that. It PWNs the whole BT.

well i dont like using legendaries and i consider the latis legendaries so no go

[Paladine]

this is probably a bit late but whatever. never use items like charcoal or mystic water. they give you a 10% raise to the type of item and the only time it would even actually help a bit would be when your doing incredible amounts of damage to begin with. eg. you use fireblast with a charizard. 150 (base power) x 1.5 (stab)= 300 damage then you add the 10% and you only get 330. not the greatest item when you could use something with an effect.

[waltzh]

You could actually try Hydro Pump instead of Surf for Milotic.

She's a good tank, and 80% chance to hit for Hydro Pump isn't so bad.

Besides,
Hydro Pump--> 120 * 0.80 = 96
Surf-----------> 95 * 1.00 = 95

As you can see, Hydro Pump is still stronger, in terms of power and accuracy only.

But also take in mind HP only has 5 base PP, whereas Surf has 15.

[Elite Dialga]

gengar lvl 50 item Razor Claw[/B
]psychic
shadowball
thunderbolt
Sucker Punch

milotic lvl 50 item Leftovers
surf
Rain Dance
ice beam
recover

arcanine lvl 50 item charcoal
flamethrower
extreme speed
Crunch
Sunny Day

CHANGES IN BOLD

Iron Tail is Pathetic, so forget it.. and Fire Blast has low accuracy but it can be made Very Useful with the help of a [B]Wide Lens I have tried it on my heatran, it hits 95% of the time.
Furthermore, You need not teach Milotic or any other pokemon the move of the same type (Surf is better than Hydro Pump in terms of reliability)

[Elite Dialga]

You could actually try Hydro Pump instead of Surf for Milotic.

She's a good tank, and 80% chance to hit for Hydro Pump isn't so bad.

Besides,
Hydro Pump--> 120 * 0.80 = 96
Surf-----------> 95 * 1.00 = 95

As you can see, Hydro Pump is still stronger, in terms of power and accuracy only.

But also take in mind HP only has 5 base PP, whereas Surf has 15.

No thats not how it is, you see the calculation you have made is not Homogeneous and by any means incorrect, infact Surf is much better than Hydro pump you see sacrificing Accuracy over Attk Strength only leads to trouble, Now lets see:

Let P(H)= Probability that Hydro Pump will NOT miss
P(H`) = Probability that Hydro Pump misses

Where: Symbol for a HIT = " H "
Symbol for a MISS = " H` " or (H Compliment)

Now the Lets take a situation in which Hydro Pump is Used TWO times:

What is the probability that the first move hits and the second misses?

ANSWER- Probability = P(H) X P(H`) OR P(H Intersection H`)
= 0.8 X 0.2
= 0.16

which means that theres' a 16% chance that it'll Hit on the first move and miss on the second keeping in mind the less no of PPs.

Now for SURF:(Same situation)

Probability that it HITS = P(S) = 1.0
Probability that it MISSES = P(S`) = 0.0

Hence Probability of getting the First move HIT and the second MIss = P(S) X P(S`)
= 1.0 X 0
= 0 !!
And 0 is a constant which means it'll hit every time and therefore it is more reliable.

Simple Rules of Probability (Statistics) :cool:

[waltzh]

No thats not how it is, you see the calculation you have made is not Homogeneous and by any means incorrect, infact Surf is much better than Hydro pump you see sacrificing Accuracy over Attk Strength only leads to trouble, Now lets see:

Let P(H)= Probability that Hydro Pump will NOT miss
P(H`) = Probability that Hydro Pump misses

Where: Symbol for a HIT = " H "
Symbol for a MISS = " H` " or (H Compliment)

Now the Lets take a situation in which Hydro Pump is Used TWO times:

What is the probability that the first move hits and the second misses?

ANSWER- Probability = P(H) X P(H`) OR P(H Intersection H`)
= 0.8 X 0.2
= 0.16

which means that theres' a 16% chance that it'll Hit on the first move and miss on the second keeping in mind the less no of PPs.

Now for SURF:(Same situation)

Probability that it HITS = P(S) = 1.0
Probability that it MISSES = P(S`) = 0.0

Hence Probability of getting the First move HIT and the second MIss = P(S) X P(S`)
= 1.0 X 0
= 0 !!
And 0 is a constant which means it'll hit every time and therefore it is more reliable.

Simple Rules of Probability (Statistics)
True.

But you have not taken in consideration the POWER of the moves used.

I was just saying that Hydro Pump is better in terms of power and accuracy only.

Which means I was not wrong.

No thats not how it is
It IS how it is.

And obviously, Surf is better than Hydro Pump in terms of accuracy/reliability only, as you have pointed out.

Hydro Pump - 80
Surf - 100
(obvious)

No offense, but having 1 miss and one hit has nothing to do with effectiveness.


TWO TURNS:


Hydro Pump has 32% to have 1 miss and 1 hit in two turns. (16% hit-miss; 16% miss-hit)
It also has 64% to have 2 hits; and has 4% to have 2 misses.

32% 120 base damage,
64% 240 base damage,
4% 0 base damage.

(120 * 0.32) + (240 * 0.64) + (0 * 0.04) = 38.4 + 153.6 + 0 = 192


Surf has 0% to have 1 miss and 1 hit in two turns.
It also has 100% to have 2 hits; and has 0% to have 2 misses.

0% 0 base damage
100% 190 base damage
0% 0 base damage.

(0 * 0.00) + (190 * 1.00) + (0 * 0.00) = 0 + 190 + 0 = 190


Hydro Pump has 80% chance of hitting, meaning it STILL has 80% chance of hitting the second time.
Surf has 100% chance to hit once, and twice.

As you can see, Hydro Pump is better in terms of power and accuracy

The product means how the base damages would be distributed through the turns. (in this case, 2 turns)





PS: Please define Homogeneity in terms of statistics, if you wouldn't mind.

[grovyle1221]

for Battle pike strategy, it works... FOR LUCY: psychic on seviper, thunderbolt on Milotic, and surf or hydro pump on shuckle...

[Pikachu_Two_Trainer]

Charizard: Dragon Claw, Flamethrower, Earth Quake, Fly
Salamance: Dragon Claw, Flame Thrower, Earth Quake, Fly
Snorlax: Flame Thrower, Surf, Sleep, Snore

:susp:

I dunno if this team would work, but if some one could give suggestions, thanx.

[ArKannine]

preetty good just remove archanies iron tail with overheat but it doesnt really matter

ARE YOU NUTS?Overheat is powerful but it lower your sp. atk to a point that it almost doesnt do damage.

[Mister Pokémon]

Gengar lvl 50 @ Magnet
Focus Punch
Hypnosis
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball

Milotic lvl 50 @ Leftovers
Hydro Pump/Surf
Toxic (not sure, maybe that Rest-Sleep Talk could replace this and Recover)
Recover
Ice Beam

Arcanine lvl 50 @ Charcoal
Fire Blast
Extremespeed
Sunny Day
Crunch

[Pikachu_Two_Trainer]

Never delete recover! Recover restores health! Delete Hydro pump.......

wait, just do this:

Milotic@Shell Bell:

Surf, Ice Beam, Recover, Toxic