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Cucumber
09-01-2007, 04:06 PM
Ok heres my team
Metagross@leftovers
-explosion
-eq
-meteor mash
-agility
Physical wall/sweeper

Heracross@Chice scarf
-Mega horn
-close combat
-arial ace
-stone edge
Physical sweeper

Aerodactyl@focus sash
-Stone edge
-Ice fang
-thunder fang
-earth quake
Physical sweeper

Gengar@focus sash
-shadow ball
-thunder bolt
-energy ball
-sludge bomb
Special Sweeper

Mantine@leftovers
-Rain dance
-surf
-Ice beam
-hidden power(flying)
Special wall

Porygon Z@quick claw?
-dishcharge
-Ice beam
-psychich
-Tri attack
Special sweeper

So this good?

TatankaToT
09-02-2007, 07:49 PM
porygon Z
- thunderbolt > discharge
-tri attack
-nasty plot
-dark pulse/ice beam/psychic

Aero
-thunder fang < aerial ace
-ice fang < double edge (if rock head is the ability. if no, then EQ)

Heracross
-swords dance > aerial ace


Gengar
-t-bolt
-shadow ball
-focus blast/energy ball
-psychic/destiny bond/hypnosis
(poison is just a low coverage type, even if it is STABed)

Mantine
-ice beam
-surf
-toxic/confuse ray
-rain dance

mjb4991
09-02-2007, 07:52 PM
Keep AA on hera unless you want to be stuck using SD.

ronjocox
09-02-2007, 08:01 PM
Team

Mantine@Lefties
252 HP 192 SP DEF 64 SP ATK
Calm
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Toxic
~Haze/Protect/Confuse Ray

Pink Trainer
09-03-2007, 12:20 AM
Don't put Quick Claw ever. 'Specially on Porygon Z. EV it's speed.

Good set is also...

Nasty Plot
Ice Beam
Psychic
Tri Attack

Do you care about EVs?

cyl3x
09-03-2007, 01:37 AM
Ok heres my team
Metagross@Life Orb
-explosion
-eq
-meteor mash
-agility
Physical wall/sweeper

Heracross@Choice scarf
-Mega horn
-close combat
-pursuit
-stone edge
Physical sweeper

Aerodactyl@focus sash
-Stone edge
-Ice fang
-thunder fang
-earthquake
Physical sweeper

Gengar@Wide Lens
-shadow ball
-Hypnosis
-energy ball/Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast
Special Sweeper

Mantine@leftovers
-Aqua Ring
-surf
-Protect
-Toxic
Special wall

Porygon Z@Choice Specs
-Thunderbolt
-Ice beam
-Dark Pulse
-Tri attack
Special sweeper

So this good?

In my opinion, your 3 sweepers are REALLY redundant. I mean, you have NO physical wall at all. Metagross is not an effecient wall and neither is mantine(despite awesomely high sdef, a t-bolt would kill it).

I suggest you get possibly a Bronzong/Skarmory/Tangrowth for physical defending. For specials, maybe a Blissey/Milotic/Slowking/Cresselia.
You might need a pokemon for to support your sweepers, for extra health so that they'll survive. Maybe a wish support Vaporeon?

Mixed sweepers do good on teams who use defensive tactics like the Skarmbliss combo. I suggest Electivire or Infernape.

Like this:

Vaporeon@Leftovers
Bold Nature
-Baton Pass
-Aqua Ring
-Wish
-Surf/Ice Beam

Overall, I'd use this:

Metagross@Life orb
Adamant Nature
-Agility
-Meteor Mash
-Explosion
-Earthquake

Electivire@Experts belt
Lonely Nature
-Thunderbolt
-Cross Chop
-Ice Punch
-Earthquake

Gengar@Wide lens
Timid Nature
-Hypnosis
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt

Blissey@Leftovers
Bold Nature
-Softboiled
-Aromatherapy
-Seismic Toss
-Ice beam

Tangrowth@Leftovers
Impish nature
-Power whip
-Earthquake
-Substitute
-Sleep powder

Vaporeon@Leftovers
Bold Nature
-Baton Pass
-Aqua Ring
-Wish
-Surf/Ice Beam

Ace123456789
09-03-2007, 02:04 AM
I have a bit of advice: What do you do if they kill Metagross? Basically you have 1 true wall (Mantine) and 5 attackers, 3 of them being physical.
I suggest you drop either Aero or Porygon-Z for a Weezing. Weezing is a pretty good Gyarados Counter, and your team could have a lot of trouble handling a Bulky Gyarados. Here's how it might start out:
He uses taunt, now you cant use agility.
the only good attack that can cause damage is Explosion, but if you do that you have no physical wall.

See what i mean? A Weezing on the other hand can use Thunderbolt to 2HKO a Bulkygyarados.

this team is built too much around sweeping, and you need to watch out for threats.

Cucumber
09-03-2007, 02:19 AM
Good point i guess i will add a weezing in there or maybe rhyperior hmm

Ace123456789
09-03-2007, 03:12 AM
Good point i guess i will add a weezing in there or maybe rhyperior hmm
Also you might consider replacing Heracross with Electivire. Hera doesnt fit your team very well... here's how Electivire will do MARVELS for you:
You have mantine in, and as good as he is you know for a fact that if he gets Zapped he could be done.
You anticipate their thunderpunch/bolt and you switch in Electivire.
VROOM VROOM, Motor drive kicks in, ur speed is raised by 1.5 and now you are set up to sweep with this:
Electivire w/ Expert Belt
Thunderpunch
Cross Chop
Ice Punch
Earthquake
As if ice punch and Earthquake don't cover enough weaknesses, CC and T-punch make it almost a necessity to use Expert Belt for that Super Effective Boost.