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cyl3x
09-07-2007, 05:37 AM
My uber Team

Kyogre@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-Surf

Latias@Soul Dew
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 116 SAtk, 140 Spd
-Dragon Pulse
-Recover
-Calm mind
-Thunder Wave/Thunder/Grass Knot/?

Palkia@Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Thunder/Surf
-Aura Sphere
-Draco Meteor/surf
-Spacial Rend

Arceus@Iron Plate
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Extremespeed
-Brick Break
-Shadow Claw
-Swords Dance

Giratina@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 100 Def, 100 SDef, 56 Atk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dragon Claw
-Shadow Claw

Deoxys-Speed@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 200 Spd, 56 HP
-Extremespeed
-Ice Punch
-Thunderpunch
-Pursuit

Please give suggestions, Like common counters to this team.(Grievous, don't say mewtwo).

barnz
09-07-2007, 02:15 PM
common counters to this team

hmm, common counters you say, well, the worst one you'll have to fear is the no ubers rule that most people play with, I'm jk. Just wanna say that a dark or ghost type will have an advantage over 4 of your 6 pokemon.

shedinjask
09-07-2007, 08:34 PM
Latias and Giratina fall to Extremekiller, Palkia and Kygore are lol against Bliss, Aruseus and Giratina lose to my (standard) Giratina.

Pretty bad team, really.

Arceus101
09-07-2007, 08:55 PM
My uber Team

Kyogre@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-Surf

Latias@Soul Dew
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 116 SAtk, 140 Spd
-Dragon Pulse
-Recover
-Calm mind
-Thunder Wave/Thunder/Grass Knot/?

Palkia@Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Thunder/Surf
-Aura Sphere
-Draco Meteor/surf
-Spacial Rend

Arceus@Iron Plate
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Extremespeed
-Brick Break
-Shadow Claw
-Swords Dance

Giratina@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 100 Def, 100 SDef, 56 Atk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dragon Claw
-Shadow Claw

Deoxys-Speed@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 200 Spd, 56 HP
-Extremespeed
-Ice Punch
-Thunderpunch
-Pursuit

Please give suggestions, Like common counters to this team.(Grievous, don't say mewtwo).

Your Arceus is horrible, it should know Judgment and Hyper Beam, you cheated(duh, you dummy) and you really meesed up your team.

mjb4991
09-07-2007, 09:25 PM
Stop insulting peoples teams. The point is to be a physical sweeper not special. Hyper Beam is one of the worst possible moves.

Dawn_PiplupFan1
09-07-2007, 10:30 PM
My uber Team

Kyogre@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-Rain Dance(So Thunder could be 100% accurate. You already have water spout so you don't need another water attack

Latias@Soul Dew
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 116 SAtk, 140 Spd
-Dragon Pulse
-Recover
-Calm mind
-Mist Ball/Psychic(you need Psychic attacks to)

Palkia@Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Surf
-Aura Sphere
-Draco Meteor
-Spacial Rend

Arceus@Iron Plate
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Earth Power/Calm Mind/Water Pulse
-Seismic Toss
-Recover/Refresh/Future sight
-Swords Dance

Giratina@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 100 Def, 100 SDef, 56 Atk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk/Aura Spear
-Dragon Claw
-Shadow Claw/Ominious Wind/Earth Power

Deoxys-Speed@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 200 Spd, 56 HP
-Extremespeed
-Ice Punch
-Thunderpunch
-Pursuit

Please give suggestions, Like common counters to this team.(Grievous, don't say mewtwo).

Changes in bold.

I like your deoxys moveset:biggrin:

mjb4991
09-07-2007, 10:41 PM
The previos arceus moveset is fine. Yours has no use for swords Dance. It is a physical sweeper. No special moves.

ronjocox
09-07-2007, 10:44 PM
Changes in bold.

I like your deoxys moveset:biggrin:

OMG.

Rain Dance on kyogre is dumb. Kyogre has a abillty that makes automatic Rain Dance,like T-Tars.

Dawn_PiplupFan1
09-07-2007, 10:46 PM
:oops:

I forgot about the ability (sorry)

Master Aqua
09-08-2007, 03:22 PM
hmm i dont think people would fight that team its got att least one hack in it and that is arceus other than that your team is great im sad that metwos not in i would never make a legendary team with out mewtwo

mjb4991
09-08-2007, 03:51 PM
Good job improving your writing.

Arceus is probaly semi-legit.

Good Team!

shedinjask
09-08-2007, 09:36 PM
Maybe he is using Shoddy? Seriously.

Lucavi
09-08-2007, 10:53 PM
Stop spamming this topic and / or rating if you don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, the team has serious problems against Deoxys-F, mainly special sets with Substitute. You'll also have difficulties to break through stall, as something like Lugia can wall half your team, and spread around Toxics, while you have no way of beating it but stalling it out. So, i'd suggest some Taunt user over Deo-E, or anything else capable of beating the stall team.

cyl3x
09-09-2007, 01:03 AM
Stop spamming this topic and / or rating if you don't know what you're talking about.

Anyway, the team has serious problems against Deoxys-F, mainly special sets with Substitute. You'll also have difficulties to break through stall, as something like Lugia can wall half your team, and spread around Toxics, while you have no way of beating it but stalling it out. So, i'd suggest some Taunt user over Deo-E, or anything else capable of beating the stall team.
Finally, a useful comment. Thanks. I'll try to fix that.

and all of you paranoid idiots who've claim I cheat. I do use Shoddy battle. I don't have WiFi.

Leman
09-09-2007, 01:11 AM
My uber Team

Kyogre@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-Surf

=/ Honestly, I prefer CM Kyogre to this. w/ 252 SAtk./ 252 HP/ 4 SPd

Latias@Soul Dew
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 116 SAtk, 140 Spd
-Dragon Pulse
-Recover
-Calm mind
-Safegaurd

This is acctually a great lead. :O

Palkia@Lustorous Orb
Modest NAture
EVs: 252 SAtk, 216 Spd, 40 HP
-Thunder
-Aqua Tail
-Surf
-Spacial Rend

Rain-Support-kia. BEst Palkia set ever! Beats the Max speed neutral Kyogre, Dialga, Groudon and co.

Arceus@Leftovers
Adamant Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Extremespeed
-Focus Punch/Earhtquake
-Shadow Claw
-Swords Dance

Lefties so Extreme Speed gets STAB.

Giratina@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 100 Def, 100 SDef, 56 Atk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dragon Claw
-Shadow Claw

Fine

Deoxys-Speed@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 200 Spd, 56 HP
-Extremespeed
-Ice Punch
-Thunderpunch
-Pursuit

=/. if you want a CBer use DEoxys -F and Super Power/Psycho Boost/Pursuit/Extreme Speed OR Ice Punch w/ Hasty

Please give suggestions, Like common counters to this team.(Grievous, don't say mewtwo).

Watch out for teams running Kyogre/Manpahy/Palkia. they could give you trouble.

cyl3x
09-09-2007, 01:40 AM
Watch out for teams running Kyogre/Manpahy/Palkia. they could give you trouble.

Why is latias a great lead? She'd get toasted by the Scarf Kyogre leads. Unless she gets a Grass knot in first. Refresh I think is better than Safeguard, they can status if they're faster than Latias can safeguard.

Secondly, why Aqua tail over Draco meteor on Palkia? I mean Aqua tail is weaker than Surf and has less accuracy. It's also Physical.

I do agree with the deoxys part.

shedinjask
09-09-2007, 12:46 PM
My uber Team

Kyogre@Choice Scarf
Modest Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-Surf

Stopped cold by Blissey, which you will most likely see. Might want some HP EVs to take Grass Ropes and such.

Latias@Soul Dew
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 116 SAtk, 140 Spd
-Dragon Pulse
-Recover
-Calm mind
-Thunder Wave/Thunder/Grass Knot/?

Thunder, to work with Kygore. Shadow Ball is also an option.

Palkia@Choice Specs
Timid Nature
EVs: 252 SAtk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Thunder/Surf
-Aura Sphere
-Draco Meteor/surf
-Spacial Rend

Ok.

Arceus@Iron Plate
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 HP
-Extremespeed
-Brick Break
-Shadow Claw
-Swords Dance

Lefties >> Iron Plate, for ES STAB. Recover, too. Make it more bulky.

Giratina@Leftovers
Impish Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 100 Def, 100 SDef, 56 Atk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Dragon Claw
-Shadow Claw

Needs WoW and Roar. No Attk is needed, really.

Deoxys-Speed@Choice Band
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 Atk, 200 Spd, 56 HP
-Extremespeed
-Ice Punch
-Thunderpunch
-Pursuit

Not the best Deoxys set, but make it FR. It's unpredictable, I'll give you that.


Like I said. Extremekiller, Blissey, and Giratina beat this. You might want Forry somewhere.