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finallegacy
01-09-2008, 05:23 PM
This team has been quite affective over shoddy battle, just wondering what you guys think of it

http://pokemonelite2000.com/pictures/sugimori/sugimori130.png

Gyarados@Leftovers
Adamant
252 HP, 210 Def, 46 Sp. Def
- Thunder wave
- Taunt
- Waterfall
- Ice Fang

My lead has gone under much scrutiny. However, he's proven to be quite useful on shoddy. He's a little bulkier than the average bulky gyarados. He's not reallly a sweeper actually, but more of a t-waving, taunting, mixed wall. He's already faster than most annoying people like blissey and forretress, so he won't have a problem taunting them. Gliscor is the only one I can think of that lays stealth rock and outspeeds gyarados, but at least got an Ice attack for it. He's quite usefull against these choice scarfed, outraging garchomps that are popular on shoddy, and a combination of t-wave with it's flinching attacks makes it a little haxful.

http://pokemonelite2000.com/pictures/sugimori/sugimori094.png

Gengar@Wide Lens
Timid
252 Sp. Attack, 252 Speed
- Hypnosis
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball
- Focus Blast

Pretty standard, just your plain old gengar here.

http://pokemonelite2000.com/pictures/sugimori/sugimori260.png

Swampert@Leftovers
Adamant
252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Attack
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Waterfall
- Earthquake

Similar to a skarmory. A physical wall to switch into if I'm expecting a thunder attack or something. Quite affective against jolteons, and roar is there to roar away people who have used stat-up moves or substitutes.

http://pokemonelite2000.com/pictures/sugimori/sugimori248.png

Tyranitar@Focus Sash
Adamant
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
- Dragon Dance
- Crunch
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

Fairly common tyranitar. Focus sash is there to help make sure I get a DD in there. Or if there's a someone who's really fast that used a lot of stat up moves, that will help me get at least one attack on them. Other than that, it's pretty standard.

http://pokemonelite2000.com/pictures/sugimori/sugimori242.png

Blissey@Leftovers
Timid (I'm pretty sure this is the one that lowers attack and raises def)
252 HP, 252 Def, 4 Sp. Def
- Counter
- Thunder Wave
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled

Though it can't damage ghosts, it can at least paralyze them so I can switch to someone else to finish them. Except for Dusknoir, most ghosts aren't that sturdy I don't think. Counter is pretty cool, I swear that counter has killed like 30 Dugtrios on shoddy, it seems that dugtrio is used as a counter for blissey somehow, not sure how though, but it seems counter screws them over. Counter can kill many physical people that try to one-shot blissey without a stat-up move. Thunderwave makes people fustrated as usual and seismic toss for standard damage.

http://www.pokebeach.com/images/gallery/sugimori/445.png

Garchomp@Focus Sash
Adamant
252 Attack, 252 Speed, 4 HP
- Sword Dance
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Fire Fang

A pretty standard garchomp. Has Focus Sash for similar reasons as Tyranitar. I make it adamant so it can one-shot a blissey after a SD.

NinjaDuelist
01-09-2008, 05:25 PM
It would be better to have at least one wall in your team. Do you like Bronzong?

finallegacy
01-09-2008, 06:00 PM
It would be better to have at least one wall in your team. Do you like Bronzong?

umm...did you not see gyarados, swampert, and blissey?

Fire Away
01-10-2008, 01:50 AM
At first glance, you're running Sash with no Rapid Spinner. A bad idea, since if SR are up you're wasting an item slot.

I'm wondering what you do to stop Specs Gengar, tbh. With HP Ice, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast and Shadow Ball, he can potentially OHKO everything on your team except Swampert and Blissey, who he can 2HKO with Shadow Ball and Focus Blast, respectively. In other words, once Specs-Gar is out, nothing will switch in safely. :/