RMT [Improved]

[Hyper Blaze]

Here's my old team I had. I improved it =P.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa286.png
Breloom@Toxic Orb
Toxic Heal
Jolly (44 HP/252 Atk/212 Spd)
-Spore
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Seed Bomb

This thing is really annoying, after setting up a spore, it owns. EV's let it outrun T-tar who carries Fire Blast/Ice Beam and provides an optimal recovery from Poison Heal.

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Raikou@Leftovers
Pressure
Timid (64 HP/96 SAtk/96 SDef/252 Spd)
-Calm Mind
-Substitute
-Hidden Power [Ice]
-Thunderbolt

After a couple of CMs, this guy owns.

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Cresselia@Leftovers
Levitate
Bold (252 HP/108 Def/148 SDef)
-Rest
-Charge Beam
-Ice Beam
-Psychic

A good wall. Gets mixape outta' my way too.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa392.png
Infernape@Life Orb
Blaze
Hasty (252 Spd/176 Atk/80 SAtk)
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Thunderpunch

He can rape alot of teams.

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Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold (152 HP/252 Def/104 SAtk)
-Softboild
-Seismic Toss
-Thunder Wave
-Ice Beam

Ahh... Bliss...

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Forretress@Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish (252 HP/162 Atk/96 Def)
-Spikes
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Stealth Rock

Good RSer for Nape.

Well, thats about it.

~HB~

[TatankaToT]

IDK, but I just like aromatherapy on blissey. It makes forretress's rest more usable

[Hyper Blaze]

IDK, but I just like aromatherapy on blissey. It makes forretress's rest more usable

Yea, but what for? I need Ice Beam and T-Wave.

~HB~

[fullmetal]

Here's my old team I had. I improved it =P. Oh, and BTW, no time to put pic D=.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Toxic Heal
Jolly (44 HP/252 Atk/212 Spd)
-Spore
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Seed Bomb/Stone Edge

This thing is really annoying, after setting up a spore, it owns. EV's let it outrun T-tar who carries Fire Blast/Ice Beam and provides an optimal recovery from Poison Heal.

Fine I suggest Stone Edge over Seed bomb, just for more coverage thats all. Focus Punch can already put a dent in a lot of walls such as Swampert.

Raikou@Leftovers
Pressure
Timid (252 SAtk/252 Spd/6 HP)
-Calm Mind
-Substitute
-Hidden Power [Ice]/ HP Grass
-Thunderbolt

After a couple of CMs, this guy owns.

Hp grass is also a good choice.

Suicune@Leftovers
Pressure
Bold (252 HP/155def/97 sp def)
-Calm Mind
-Roar
-Ice Beam
-Surf

He just plain owns after a couple of CMs. And covers my Heatran weakness.

Few Sp. Def EVs will help set up le Calm mind. Its already bold with 252 Hp EVs, I don't think it needs 252 def Evs.

Infernape@Life Orb
Blaze
Hasty (252 Spd/176 Atk/80 SAtk)
-Flamethrower
-Close Combat
-Grass Knot
-Thunderpunch

He can rape alot of teams.

Fine nice twist to le ape.

Blissey@Leftovers
Natural Cure
Bold (152 HP/252 Def/104 SAtk)
-Softboild
-Seismic Toss
-Thunder Wave
-Ice Beam

Ahh... Bliss... (NOOB!)jk

Yeah its fine I guess. I'm not a bliss fan but this set looks fine.

Forretress@Leftovers
Sturdy
Impish (252 HP/162 Atk/96 Def)
-Spikes
-Gyro Ball
-Rapid Spin
-Protect

Good RSer for Nape.

Meh Rest is a waste really. Protect is good for predicting whats going to happen. For a safe switch.

Well, thats about it.

~HB~
Yeah Thats all I have to say to that. Just some suggestions. No mathematical mumbo jumbo but those are all just opinions I had.

Good Day

[Hyper Blaze]

Yeah Thats all I have to say to that. Just some suggestions. No mathematical mumbo jumbo but those are all just opinions I had.

Good Day


Breloom - Sub could be replaced with Stone Edge, but I like sub since he gives you something to hide behind.

Raikou - Yea, true, but I find coverage better than Swampert.

Suicune - I need max defence since I'll be facing more Phys. sweepers than Sp. Sweepers after 2 CMs.

Forretress - Rest is accually good, but now, I think I should use something else, because Bliss has no Aroma, and no room for it either.

~HB~

[Dark_Azelf]

Breloom - Sub could be replaced with Stone Edge, but I like sub since he gives you something to hide behind.

Raikou - Yea, true, but I find coverage better than Swampert.

Suicune - I need max defence since I'll be facing more Phys. sweepers than Sp. Sweepers after 2 CMs.

Forretress - Rest is accually good, but now, I think I should use something else, because Bliss has no Aroma, and no room for it either.

~HB~



I use Aroma Bliss, i dropped t-wave for it and it works wonders.

Try : - 64 HP / 96 Sp.A / 96 Sp.D / 252 Speed on Raikou, your gonna be using Calm mind so you dont need that much sp.att, this spread also makes your subs harder to break.

Your kinda mixape and mixvire weak.

Everything else looks ok.

[Hyper Blaze]

I use Aroma Bliss, i dropped t-wave for it and it works wonders.

Try : - 64 HP / 96 Sp.A / 96 Sp.D / 252 Speed on Raikou, your gonna be using Calm mind so you dont need that much sp.att, this spread also makes your subs harder to break.

Your kinda mixape and mixvire weak.

Everything else looks ok.

T-Wave is need, IMO.

Err, okay.

Suicune takes care of Nape. And should I put EQ on Forry for Vire?

~HB~

[Dark_Azelf]

T-Wave is need, IMO.

Err, okay.

Suicune takes care of Nape. And should I put EQ on Forry for Vire?

~HB~

Not that vire with Ice Punch / Earthquake / Cross Chop / Thunderbolt.

I was talking about that mixvire with Flamethrower / Hidden power Ice / Thunderbolt / Cross Chop.


I dunno about Suicune taking ape, can it take a Life Orb'd Nasty plot grass Knot ? I would run some damage calcs (But metal kids damage calc doesnt do Grass Knot calculations) but i dont think it can, Grass Knot hits suicune for something stupid like 100 base power, i think after a Nasty Plot and life orb thats a ohko.

You may want something like dusknoir, Tentacruel , cresselia, starmie etc. to take ape

I guess on blissey you could go the old advance standard of Twave/Aromatherphy/S-Toss/ Softboiled. But it just lets Garchomp and stuff use you as set up fodder with swords dance etc.

[Hyper Blaze]

Not that vire with Ice Punch / Earthquake / Cross Chop / Thunderbolt.

I was talking about that mixvire with Flamethrower / Hidden power Ice / Thunderbolt / Cross Chop.


I dunno about Suicune taking ape, can it take a Life Orb'd Nasty plot grass Knot ? I would run some damage calcs (But metal kids damage calc doesnt do Grass Knot calculations) but i dont think it can, Grass Knot hits suicune for something stupid like 100 base power, i think after a Nasty Plot and life orb thats a ohko.

You may want something like dusknoir, Tentacruel , cresselia, starmie etc. to take ape

I guess on blissey you could go the old advance standard of Twave/Aromatherphy/S-Toss/ Softboiled. But it just lets Garchomp and stuff use you as set up fodder with swords dance etc.

Oh, that one. Cune can get him after 1 or 2 CMs.

Surf should kill/almost kill nape without CMs. If I pack more SAtk on Raikou, maybe he could OKHO mixape? I'll calculate now.

Edit: He can't kill him with max SAtk Ev's Timid. Cune can ensure an OHKO on Mixape with 144 SAtk EVs Bold , and it won't hurt his defence since he's Bold.

~HB~

[Hyper Blaze]

Sorry for double post, but *bump*

Infernape outspeeds that nape your talking about, since he has 232 Speed EVs, and a CC should kill him.

~HB~

[Xênaz]

No, Infernape still rapes this team. Nasty Plot Life Orb Grass Knot will OHKO your specific EV Spread on Suicune, and it can OHKO everything else after that with Flamethrower. And if you immediately send out Infernape on theirs, any decent player will realize that they have to switch out since yours obviously is doing something different. Use Tentacruel/Gyrados > Forretress to counter Nape, but with Tentacruel you might find a EQ weakness builidng up. Then (if you still want another bulky CM wall) Spiritomb:
Spiritomb w/ Leftovers
Bold :: Modest
252 HP / 144 DEF / 114 SPATK :: 252 HP / 252 SPATK / 6 DEF
Hypnosis/Pain Split
Calm Mind
Hidden Power Fighting
Shadow Ball

You can either Calm Mind down to low HP and then Pain Split --> sweep or Hypnosis and then start Calm Minding. This set is really fun to use. It would cover Blissey's Fighting weakness and Breloom, Tentacruel, and Infernapes Psychic weakness.

Looks like a decent team.

[BubbleFis]

Well if infernape was first on the opponents team (unlikely) it would face up with Breloom which would kill it in speed (Xenaz's infernape) so it can spore it-then it is in with luck but afterwards if it alive
But this team is lacking EQ
well you can call me an idiot but if you have fortress with Occa berry (I know stupid) it won't survive a Flamethrower right-no, It works after Breloom or W/e gets raped By nape you can send in Fortress and blow his Face with explosion-mind you, it need's explosion especially if you can time it right
but yeah Nape can have this team screwed-Blissey counters will be up like hell so maybe another thing instead
but this team really needs EQ

In final: Awesome team
-Infernape Weakness
-Needs EQ
-needs Explosion(in my opinion)

[Hyper Blaze]

Forry will still die with Occa Berry.

I think Cune should be replaced wth Cress.

~HB~

[Dark_Azelf]

Forry will still die with Occa Berry.

I think Cune should be replaced wth Cress.

~HB~

You may want Charge Beam on Cressy or Taunt Gyarados is going to be problematic, especially when it starts Dragon Dancing.

[Hyper Blaze]

You may want Charge Beam on Cressy or Taunt Gyarados is going to be problematic, especially when it starts Dragon Dancing.

But then no T-Wave? Ah, okay.

~HB~