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pokedude86
04-30-2008, 01:02 AM
I see a lot of unanswered requests for help and teams on this board. Not sure what's that all about but I'll give it a shot. :happy:

I know I would like to use these 3:

Starmie @ Leftovers
Timid Nature
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-Recover

Weezing @ Leftovers
-Pain Split
-Will-o-Wisp
-Flamethrower
-Haze

Gengar @ Life Orb
-Hypnosis
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast

For the final 3 I was considering these 2 but not sure on the 6th.

Heracross
Zapdos/Jolteon

Looking for some constructive help
pokedude86

Shun Goku Satsu
04-30-2008, 06:48 PM
You need heracross for a physical sweeper (unless you decide to go with another physical sweeper)

You can have him as a rest-talker which takes advantage of his guts ability and gives you a status absorber. rest, sleep talk, megahorn and stone edge accompany this set and the given EVs should be 152 spd, 204 HP and 152 Atk and go with lefties or life orb


or you could go with a swords dance set and give him toxic/flame orb to activate guts and again serve as a status absorber. Give him Close combat, megahorn, and facade and give full EV investment to speed and attack.

Or you could go with choice scarf / choice band. Choice scarf will let him outspeed most everything unless they too are scarfed, and choice band + Guts is just flat out deadly to everything. Close combat, megahorn, stone edge and persuit/night slash go with this set and his EVs should be 152 spd 104 HP 252 Atk


You have special attackers already and none of your party benefit from agility baton pass so i wouldn't go with jolteon. You have rapid spin support already so zapdos is a great choice. I personally like bulky zapdos, 36 spd 252 HP 220 Def. Toxic, protect, roost and t-bolt. protect and roost while your oponent dies of poisen :cool:

He doesn't learn a huge list of direct attacks so i wouldn't use him as a sweeper unless you can get a good HP. Unless you specifically wanted a baton passer i would go with the above set.

Your 6th poke needs to be a special wall

pokedude86
04-30-2008, 08:46 PM
First thanks for the help Shun Goku Satsu very informative! Think I'll take your advice and go with Heracross and Zapdos. For a wall I chose Snorlax so please take a look at his moveset. I would be really appreciative if you or someone else can help me fill in what I have in bold/blank. I'm actually quite excited with this team! :biggrin:

Heracross @ Choice Band
Nature:
Trait: Guts
Ev: 152 spd 104 HP 252 Atk
-Close Combat
-Megahorn
-Stone Edge
-Night Slash

Zapdos @
Nature:
Trait:
Ev:
36 spd 252 HP 220 Def.
-Toxic
-Protect
-Roost
-T-bolt

Starmie @ Leftovers
Nature: Timid ?
Trait:
Ev:
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-Recover

Weezing @ Leftovers
Nature:
Trait:
Ev:
-Pain Split
-Will-o-Wisp
-Flamethrower
-Haze

Gengar @ Life Orb
Nature:
Trait:
Ev:
-Hypnosis
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast


Snorlax @ Chesto
Nature:
Trait:
Ev:
-Rest
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Curse

Shun Goku Satsu
04-30-2008, 09:51 PM
First thanks for the help Shun Goku Satsu very informative! Think I'll take your advice and go with Heracross and Zapdos. For a wall I chose Snorlax so please take a look at his moveset. I would be really appreciative if you or someone else can help me fill in what I have in bold/blank. I'm actually quite excited with this team! :biggrin:

Heracross @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Guts
Ev: 152 spd 104 HP 252 Atk
-Close Combat
-Megahorn
-Stone Edge
-Night Slash

Zapdos @
Nature: Bold
Trait: Pressure
Ev:36 spd 252 HP 220 Def.
-Toxic
-Protect
-Roost
-T-bolt

Starmie @ Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Trait: Natural cure
Ev: 216 spd, 172HP, 120 sp.atk
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-Recover

Weezing @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Trait: Leviate
Ev:252 HP, 252 Def, 4 spd
-Pain Split
-Will-o-Wisp
-Flamethrower
-Haze

Gengar @ Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Trait: Levitate
Ev: 252 Sp.Atk 252 spd 4 HP
-Hypnosis
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast


Snorlax @ Chesto
Nature: Careful
Trait: Thick fat
Ev: 168 HP, 120 Def, 220 Sp.Def
-Rest
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Curse

:cool:

pokedude86
05-01-2008, 01:09 AM
Thanks Shun Goku Satsu. :smile:

pokedude86
05-01-2008, 10:02 PM
Ugh, I messed up I should of stated this was R/S/E team. I need alternatives for the moves in bold.

Heracross @ Choice Band
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Guts
Ev: 152 spd 104 HP 252 Atk
-Close Combat
-Megahorn
-Stone Edge
-Night Slash

Zapdos @
Nature: Bold
Trait: Pressure
Ev:36 spd 252 HP 220 Def.
-Toxic
-Protect
-Roost
-T-bolt

Starmie @ Leftovers
Nature: Timid
Trait: Natural cure
Ev: 216 spd, 172HP, 120 sp.atk
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rapid Spin
-Recover

Weezing @ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
Trait: Leviate
Ev:252 HP, 252 Def, 4 spd
-Pain Split
-Will-o-Wisp
-Flamethrower
-Haze

Gengar @ Life Orb
Nature: Timid
Trait: Levitate
Ev: 252 Sp.Atk 252 spd 4 HP
-Hypnosis
-Shadow Ball
-Thunderbolt
-Focus Blast

Snorlax @ Chesto
Nature: Careful
Trait: Thick fat
Ev: 168 HP, 120 Def, 220 Sp.Def
-Rest
-Body Slam
-Earthquake
-Curse