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Catman
05-01-2008, 06:34 PM
Sorry to start on such a pesky note but NON-CHEAP means no spikers, no baton passers, no choice-itemers and no OHKO machines (Fissure, Sheer Cold etc.)

Anyway, onto buisness.

Step 1

Pinsir (Scrapper) @Mold Breaker 252 Atk Ev's 252 Sp.Def Ev's
31 Atk IV

Earthquake
Stone Edge
X-Scissor
Close Combat


Step 2

Absol (Scrapper) @Super Luck 252 Atk Ev's 126 Def Ev's 126 Sp.Def Ev's
31 Atk IV

Iron Tail
Zen Headbutt
Night Slash
Stone Edge/Shadow Claw/X-Scissor


Step 3

Lapras (Force) @Shell Armor/Water Absorb 252 Sp.Atk Ev's 126 Def Ev's 126 Sp.Def Ev's
31 Sp.Atk Iv's 31 HP Iv's

Thunderbolt
Ice beam
Surf
Psychic


Step 4

Machamp (Scrapper) @No Guard 252 Atk Ev's 126 Def Ev's 126 Sp.Def Ev's
31 Atk Iv's


Dynamicpunch
Poison Jab
Ice Punch
Fire Punch


Step 5

Porygon-Z (Blaster) @Adaptability 252 Sp.Atk EV's 252 Speed Ev's
31 Sp.Atk Iv's 31 Speed Iv's


Tri-Attack
{Thunderbolt
Interchangeable {Ice Beam
{Dark Pulse
{Shadow Ball


Step 6


Ok then, Quickly thrown together wall...

Dusknoir (Uber tank) @Pressure 252 Atk Ev's 126 Def Ev's 126 Sp.Def Ev's
31 Def Iv's 31 Sp.Def Iv's

Ice Punch
Fire Punch
Thunder Punch
Shadow Punch


Howsat?

NeoZero
05-01-2008, 07:04 PM
hey think about ur walls first than ur sweepers

Mitsuzo-kun
05-01-2008, 07:28 PM
Infernape seems to cause a lot of your sweepers trouble, notably Pinsir, Absol, Porygon-Z, and a slightly lesser Lapras. Lappy can always make it eat STAB Surf, but not after tasting STAB Life Orb Close Combat.

Dusknoir won't do much against Infernape, just allow it to Nasty Plot up. That set there isn't too good.

Also, how are Choice Item sets "cheap"? They're lethal when used with prediction. Baton Passers are useful, and Spikers/Stealth Rockers are more common in DP and are deadly too without a Spinner. Yes, OHKO's are cheap. :P

You need a Spinner, a Spiker/SRer, and another wall preferably. ^^

Catman
05-01-2008, 07:40 PM
Infernape seems to cause a lot of your sweepers trouble, notably Pinsir, Absol, Porygon-Z, and a slightly lesser Lapras. Lappy can always make it eat STAB Surf, but not after tasting STAB Life Orb Close Combat.

Dusknoir won't do much against Infernape, just allow it to Nasty Plot up. That set there isn't too good.

Also, how are Choice Item sets "cheap"? They're lethal when used with prediction. Baton Passers are useful, and Spikers/Stealth Rockers are more common in DP and are deadly too without a Spinner. Yes, OHKO's are cheap. :P

You need a Spinner, a Spiker/SRer, and another wall preferably. ^^

good point, there is a notable weakness to good fire types, ill need to work on that. I'm afraid I dont feel I NEED a spinner, or a spiker. As I tend to play with a close-knit group of friends and we have a strong pact against such tactics. On the issue of choicers it's not so much that they are cheap, it's just that I personally do not see the point in limiting my wide-ranging Super-Effectiveness to just one enemy per Pokemon, i simply do not agree with their usefulness and fell that they are far too over-relyed upon. But thanks for te info and as it says I just threw dusknoir up there quickly. Kind of a placeholder really.