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mpw261
05-15-2008, 04:12 AM
I'm not looking to be an extreme competitive battler, I just want to have a casual team that i can be proud of. A force to be reckoned with, but I'm not looking for bragging rights. With that in mind:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Arcanine.png
Shiny Arcanine @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
-Flare Blitz
-Thunder Fang
-ExtremeSpeed
-Iron Tail

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Heracross.png
Heracross @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 104 Hp/252 Atk/152 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp.Atk)
-Megahorn
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Sleep Talk

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Tyranitar.png
Tyranitar @ Choice band
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 6 Speed
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
-Crunch
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Pursuit

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Gengar.png
Gengar @ Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 Hp/252 Sp. Atk/252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Ice

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Tangrowth.png
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Hp/228 Def/28 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -Sp. Atk)
-Power Whip
-Knock Off
-Leech Seed
-Sleep Powder

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Blissey.png
Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait; Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def/80 Sp. Atk/176 Spd
Calm Nature (+Sp. Def, -Atk)
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
-Ice Beam
-Aromatherapy


The only thing I demand is that Arcanine stays. If there is anyway to make him any more valuable then please let me know. I'm worried about how I will do against head honchos like Garchomp and Salamence. Adjust as you see fit.

Thanks in advance :)

eerie
05-15-2008, 05:38 AM
Here's how I do things. 1) I improve the Pokemon given. I don't suggest specific Pokemon. 2) I do it in quote form with changes/comments in bold.

I'm not looking to be an extreme competitive battler, I just want to have a casual team that i can be proud of. A force to be reckoned with, but I'm not looking for bragging rights. With that in mind:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Arcanine.png
Shiny Arcanine @ Choice Band/Life Orb
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
-Flare Blitz
-Thunder Fang
-ExtremeSpeed
-Hidden Power Ice/Grass/Crunch/Fire Blast
If you're lucky, HPs may be possible. Otherwise, have Fire Blast. I gave it CB since I thought CSc with ESpeed seemed redundant.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Heracross.png
Heracross @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 104 Hp/252 Atk/152 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp.Atk)
-Megahorn/Night Slash
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Sleep Talk
The change is for Gengar & the like, but that's it.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Tyranitar.png
Tyranitar @ Choice band
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 6 Speed
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
-Crunch
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Pursuit
My second favorite TTar. This is a good leader.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Gengar.png
Gengar @ Life Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 Hp/252 Sp. Atk/252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast/Hypnosis
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Ice/Hypnosis
Or this. This is outclassed by ScarfGar & LO Gar. Explosion & Focus Punch works well, too, if using Hypnosis on the LO set

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Tangrowth.png
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Hp/228 Def/28 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -Sp. Atk)
-Power Whip
-Knock Off
-Leech Seed
-Sleep Powder
:happy:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Blissey.png
Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait; Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def/80 Sp. Atk/176 Spd
Calm Nature (+Sp. Def, -Atk)
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
-Ice Beam
-Aromatherapy
Standard. My favorite kind.

The only thing I demand is that Arcanine stays. If there is anyway to make him any more valuable then please let me know. I'm worried about how I will do against head honchos like Garchomp and Salamence. Adjust as you see fit.

Thanks in advance :)

I suggest you replace Heracross with a Special Sweeper to take on Weezing, Gyarados & the like. Also, a good tank that counters Infernape can serve you well. You might want to redesign the team a little. Good luck! :biggrin:

Viva la Gofre
05-15-2008, 10:46 AM
I'm not looking to be an extreme competitive battler, I just want to have a casual team that i can be proud of. A force to be reckoned with, but I'm not looking for bragging rights. With that in mind:

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Arcanine.png
Shiny Arcanine @ Choice Band
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Spd/6 Hp
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
-Flare Blitz
-Thunder Fang
-ExtremeSpeed
-Crunch
Iron Tail is a very sucky move, Crunch please. You have extremespeed for priority, so as eerie said it's redundant with scarf. Band it.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Heracross.png
Heracross @ Choice Band/Life orb
Trait: Guts
EVs: 104 Hp/252 Atk/152 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp.Atk)
-Megahorn
-Close Combat
-Stone Edge
-Sleep Talk
Im not a fan of CB and sleep talk, if you come out early you'll be forced to switch even sooner. I'd either swap the item for life orb or sleep talk for pursuit or night slash.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Tyranitar.png
Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 192 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 64 Speed
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
-Crunch
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Pursuit
You're going OTT on choice items, leftovers suits bulky TTars better. As does that EV spread. Set's fine though.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Gengar.png
Gengar @ Choice Specs
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 4 Hp/252 Sp. Atk/252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Thunderbolt
-Hidden Power Ice
Fine, although I dislike four choice items. Without a spinner you're going to be switching into a LOT of passive damage.

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Tangrowth.png
Tangrowth @ Leftovers
Trait: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 Hp/228 Def/28 SpDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -Sp. Atk)
-Power Whip
-Knock Off
-Leech Seed
-Sleep Powder
I've never understood what speed EVs accomplish on this thing. SpDef pleash

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n131/azninvasion972/Blissey.png
Blissey @ Leftovers
Trait; Natural Cure
EVs: 252 Def/216SpDef/40HP
Calm Nature (+Sp. Def, -Atk)
-Seismic Toss
-Softboiled
-Ice Beam/Twave
-Aromatherapy
Ok apart from EV spread. Consider Twave.

The only thing I demand is that Arcanine stays. If there is anyway to make him any more valuable then please let me know. I'm worried about how I will do against head honchos like Garchomp and Salamence. Adjust as you see fit.

Thanks in advance :)

Its a good team, except for that special attackers are very under-represented. As eerie said, remove a physical attacker, seeing as TTar and hera are covering the same stuff really. Something that can hurt skarmory would also be nice, although im guessing that due to it's shininess arcanine won't be getting re-bred for a none -SpAtt nature. Fire blast is considerable on it, but dont expect too much from it on a jolly poke. Drop at least one choice item too, you're going to be switching so much that you'll be obliterated by SR in no time. Starmie could make a nice addition:

Starmie@Leftovers
Timid
Natural Cure
172HP/122SpAtt/216Spd
Rapid Spin
Reover
Thunderbolt
Surf

Extra special-based offensive and spin support.

Fire Away
05-15-2008, 09:21 PM
Speed EVs on Tangrowth are to outspeed -speed Swampert. Otherwise, you get nailed by MixPert's Ice Beam pretty hard.

The team's offense is very heavily Choiced. A Wish-passer of some kind would be great. If it's for Shoddy or you happen to somehow have access to Wish-Blissey, then you can put it on her. If you do this, put Protect over Seismic Toss. This will let Sandstorm damage add up, stops you from being 2HKO'd by a lot of threats.

If this isn't possible, you'll want to mix up your offense to make it less Choice-based.

Zen Chanting
05-15-2008, 10:45 PM
Where's you spinner? Heracross counter? Wisher? You realize how hard Machamp'll be one this team? MixApe counter? >_>

TacoMan
05-16-2008, 01:37 AM
Your team relies way on attacking more than actually planing out a strategy. Mix ape will pretty much dominate this team easily or a heracross as well. Also why is there a choice scarf on a Jolly Arcainine? Put a life orb or Choice band on it if its going to be jolly. You need another wall you can rely on after your blissey is done with.