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Viva la Gofre
05-22-2008, 04:59 PM
Hi all,
I've decided to try OU, possibly my most disliked metagame. So yeah, let me know what you think.
The line-up
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Adamant
252Att/152HP/104Spd
Agility
Thunderpunch
MeteorMash
Earthquake
Agiligros lead. Pretty standard set, works like a dream.

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Modest
252SpAtt/200Spd/56HP
Earth Power
HP Ice
Fire Blast
Dragon Pulse
Mostly Standard Scarftran with added dragon pulse. This thing works a dream as a specsmence counter, as long as it doesnt come in on hydro pump. Also takes fire attacks aimed at Metagross.

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Bold
252HP/152Def/104SpDef
Rest
Sleep Talk
Ice Beam
Charge Beam
I cannot rate this thing highly enough as a physical wall and status absorber. Standard set methinks and takes ground attacks aimed at the previous two.

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Calm
252Def/212SpDef/40HP
Aromatherapy
Softboiled
Seismic Toss
Thunder Wave
Standard Pink Fat Blob. I don't see this EV spread around this forum so much but its widely praised at my usual one.

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Timid
160HP/132SpAtt/216Spd
Rapid Spin
Surf
Recover
Thunderbolt
Standard Spinner and mixape counter.

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Naive
152Att/104SpAtt/252Spd
Vacuum Wave
Close Combat
Dark Pulse
Stone Edge
A mixcario of my own design. VW is for priority hits against the likes of weavile who expect it to be physical after seeing CC. CC is there for blissey, other moves for coverage. I'm not liking this atm, might swap for gengar. Thoughts?

I'm owrried about 3 ground weaks atm, so I'm happy with scrapping lucario should it seem needed.
So yeah, rate away :)

Shun Goku Satsu
05-22-2008, 05:29 PM
Is nicely covered against most threats.

If electivire comes in on a badly times T-punch from gross, he'll EQ him, EQ heatran, Megahorn Cresselia (who can't hit back without psychic) megahorn starmie, cross chop blissey and EQ Lucario. I don't know the damage calculations (whether he will KO gross and tran so as not to be KO'd by their ground attack) But he still has T-bolt on starmie to switch into and can sweep you late game

Fire Away
05-22-2008, 05:52 PM
Is nicely covered against most threats.

If electivire comes in on a badly times T-punch from gross, he'll EQ him, EQ heatran, Megahorn Cresselia (who can't hit back without psychic) megahorn starmie, cross chop blissey and EQ Lucario. I don't know the damage calculations (whether he will KO gross and tran so as not to be KO'd by their ground attack) But he still has T-bolt on starmie to switch into and can sweep you late game

Electivire doesn't learn Megahorn...

DD-Tar destroys you after a Dragon Dance. CB-Tar can do this well, but won't boast a boost to speed and will have to switch rather frequently.

Adding something like Swampert or Hariyama would help a lot. I can give you sets, if you like.

I would try putting one of those in over Lucario. This will remove a ground weak from the team, and Swampert or Hariyama certainly aren't slouches in the offensive department.

I also suggest Gliscor going in over Cresselia as your physical wall, given that an opposing SD Lucario could cause a lot of problems.

Viva la Gofre
05-22-2008, 08:48 PM
I was actually looking to put swampert in, a bit of comfirmation's always nice. What would you recommend, mixpert?

Shun Goku Satsu
05-22-2008, 10:05 PM
Electivire doesn't learn Megahorn...

DD-Tar destroys you after a Dragon Dance. CB-Tar can do this well, but won't boast a boost to speed and will have to switch rather frequently.

Adding something like Swampert or Hariyama would help a lot. I can give you sets, if you like.

I would try putting one of those in over Lucario. This will remove a ground weak from the team, and Swampert or Hariyama certainly aren't slouches in the offensive department.

I also suggest Gliscor going in over Cresselia as your physical wall, given that an opposing SD Lucario could cause a lot of problems.
My bad, i was thinking of how dangerous herracross would be as i was typing.

Leman
05-22-2008, 11:47 PM
I'm not sure why you have Dragon Pulse and HP Ice on Heatran, other than maybe Neutrality? I'd run one or the other. Explosion/Overheat/Hidden Power [Fight]/Hidden Power [Grass] in one of their spots. Obviously you can only use the Hidden Powers if you drop HP Ice.

Scarfcross takes out everything in this team except for Metagross. So, Gliscor>Cresselia solves that problem, but you should be aware of that. Other Heracross do pretty much as well against this team, but they can be revenge killed by Heatran.

Spongebob Number One Fan
05-23-2008, 03:32 AM
There's a reason nobody uses mixed Lucario...

And Agiligross is a bad sweeper in general, leading with it when its best counters (Swampert, Hippowdon, Bronzong) are often leads is a terrible idea. It's also vulnerable to random status and can't take Earthquakes from attacking leads like Gyarados and Tar so well.

Also, watch out for CM Missy who laughs at Blissey and has Sub to protect it from Scarf stuff, while in the meantime it can laugh at "MixCario" and Heatran.

speaking of mixed Lucario, don't use it. It's incredibly inferior as a sweeper to SDluke and SpecsLuke. SpecsLuke beats most blissey anyways, so I don't see the point in using a mixed set.

I would replace Lucario or Metagross (and what one you keep I would change its set) for something like Gliscor, who takes care of that horrid Heracross and Crunch SDluke weak of yours.

BTW, I wouldn't swap Lucario for Gengar. It only makes you more Pursuit weak and Gengar is an overrated sweeper as it is anyways.