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ShockRain
06-08-2008, 08:41 AM
Rate my new team!

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Dragonite - Leftovers
Lonely
Inner focus

EV: 52 HP - 204 ATK - 68 SPA - 184 SPEED

Hidden power flying
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Thunderbolt
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Snorlax - Leftovers
Adament
Immunity

EV: 144 HP - 68 ATK - 132 DEF - 164 SPD

Curse
Bodyslam
Shadow Ball/Hidden Power Steel/Earthquake (Which one should i use?)
Rest
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Tyranitar - Leftovers
Quiet
Sand stream

EV: 252 HP / 188 SpA / 68 Spe

Crunch
Thunderbolt
Focus Punch
Substitute
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Zapdos - Leftovers
Calm
Static

EV: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe

Thunderbolt
Rest
Hidden power grass
Sleep Talk
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Vaporeon - Leftovers
Bold
Water absorb

EV: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SpD

Surf
Ice Beam
Wish
Baton pass
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Skarmory - Leftovers
Impish
Keen eye

EV: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 184 Def / 12 Spe

Spikes
Drill peck
Substitute/Rest (Which one should i use?)
Roar
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Im open for any changes, so thanks in advance!
:biggrin:

How can i improve this team further, to make it a 10/10?
DON'T FORGET TO RATE :crackup:

Viva la Gofre
06-08-2008, 09:41 AM
Is this 3rd gen?

ShockRain
06-08-2008, 09:49 AM
Is this 3rd gen?
Yeah, forgot to type that, but im kinda imagining it for wifi battles aswell.

Viva la Gofre
06-08-2008, 10:10 AM
Yeah, forgot to type that, but im kinda imagining it for wifi battles aswell.
Well I suck at 3rd gen, so I won;t confuse you by offering bad advice :P

ShockRain
06-08-2008, 10:25 AM
Well, can't you just rate it? :oops:
I mean, can't this team practically take down every common standard?

Someone posted this for me in another forum:
* Blissey - Owned by Boah, can only do any sort of damage to dragonite.
* Celebi - Boah destroys it (watch out for calm mind models), skarm can phaze the calm mind models, dragonite can set up on it.
* Gengar - owned by Boah and to a lesser extent snorlax, but watch out for predicted focus punches.
* Heracross - Skarm and to a lesser extent dragonite walls it.
* Jirachi - Dragonite threatens its existence, and tyranitar can wall it to some extent.
* Metagross - Vaporeon and Skarm wall it, Zapdos can take care of non-rock slide models, and if it decides to explode it can no longer try to counter dragonite, boah, or snorlax.
* Milotic - Two thunderbolts from Dragonite or tyranitar, Zapdos owns it.
* Raikou - Snorlax can kill it, but watch out for your own sandstorm.
* Salamence - Vaporeon gets it, non rock slide models can get owned by zapdos.
* Skarmory - Gets hit by thunderbolt by dragonite or boah; only three pokemon are affected by spikes.
* Snorlax - Skarmory walls it unless it has fire blast; with fire blast, boah beats it up.
* Starmie - Dragonite and tyranitar can hit it hard on the switch in; zapdos owns it.
* Suicune - Zapdos can force it to rest, and then you can beat it up with snorlax; dragonite and tyranitar both have thunderbolt to hit it hard on the switch in.
* Swampert - Zapdos kills it, snorlax uses it as set-up bait,
* Tyranitar - Skarm and vaporeon are both reliable, but watch out for DDTar.
* Zapdos - Snorlax owns it, but can be a little problematic in sandstorm. Your own zapdos can do okay too.

If it's true, then this team can destroy every common standard which makes it a perfect team (In my opinion).

Viva la Gofre
06-08-2008, 11:05 AM
It's very diffiult to rate a 3rd gen team with fourth gen knowledge. For example, I do not know which attacks are physical and whih are special, I do not know which pokes are OU or UU ect, I don't know any of the standard sets, I could go on all day. You're better off waiting for someone who can offer extensive competent advice rather than me guessing :)

ShockRain
06-08-2008, 02:44 PM
Hey, isn't this set better for the skarmory?

Leftovers

Toxic
Spikes
Roar
Steel Wing/Drill Peck

It lays out 3 sets of spikes, then uses toxic on the opponent, roar, use toxic, roar, and keep repeating until the entire team is poisoned.

Then it can switch or just sweeping away with the Drill peck/Steel wing.

Personally, i think this is the best set for skarmory but should i use Drill peck or Steel Wing?

Spongebob Number One Fan
06-08-2008, 04:59 PM
Rate my new team!

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Dragonite - Leftovers
Lonely
Inner focus

EV: 52 HP - 204 ATK - 68 SPA - 184 SPEED

Hidden power flying
Earthquake
Dragon Dance
Thunderbolt

Don't know hwy you're leading with this to be honest. Most common leads obliterate it.

Snorlax - Leftovers
Adamant
Immunity / Thick Fat

EV: 144 HP - 68 ATK - 132 DEF - 164 SPD

Curse
Bodyslam
Shadow Ball/Hidden Power Steel/Earthquake (Which one should i use?)
Rest

Um, use Careful.

Tyranitar - Leftovers
Quiet
Sand stream

EV: 252 HP / 188 SpA / 68 Spe

Crunch
Thunderbolt
Focus Punch
Substitute

Sure.

Zapdos - Leftovers
Calm
Static

EV: 252 HP / 224 SpD / 32 Spe

Thunderbolt
Rest
Hidden power grass
Sleep Talk

Alright.

Vaporeon - Leftovers
Bold
Water absorb

EV: 252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SpD

Surf
Ice Beam
Wish
Baton pass

Okay, consider Sub in there.

Skarmory - Leftovers
Impish
Keen eye

EV: 252 HP / 60 Atk / 184 Def / 12 Spe

Spikes
Drill peck
Substitute/Rest (Which one should i use?)
Roar

Probably sub since Vaporeon passes wish.

Im open for any changes, so thanks in advance!
:biggrin:

How can i improve this team further, to make it a 10/10?
DON'T FORGET TO RATE :crackup:

You have no good switch on CBtar or Aerodactyl at all since you lack a Rock resist. Vaporeon can kind of take it, but it's a really sketchy counter. I'd also get a more sturdy fighting resist since Nite and Dos can't really take CBcross or Medicham focus Punches at all.

ShockRain
06-08-2008, 05:58 PM
So, what pokémon should i use that IS a good switch in for ddtar and those other things you said :tongue:

And about dragonite leading, it isn't my leading pokémon it was just random, and no i haven't
decided which on to lead.

But more to the point, do you know a pokémon that could be a good counter against ddtar and take focus punches?
I know swampert can take on ddtar and flygon got STAB earthquake but what do you say?