Evidence about Dawn's Piplup

[inyi]

Ive just noticed in Bulbapedia and other Poke wiki site that Dawn's Piplup gender is Unknow.. Ive seen in episode D/P: Battle Dimension: 061: TEAM SHOCKER piplup is wearing a cheerleader custume as well as Pachirissu and Buneary.. while pikachu wears a japaneese custume which indicates it a male..

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb67/inyi/piplup2.jpghttp://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb67/inyi/piplup1.jpg
does it mean piplup is Female.. Right?

Ive just noticed aswell, that piplup doesnt want to go inside its Pokeball! hmmp.. Piplup is liked Pikachu now! well Piplup is funny.. I liked its Funny moments...:biggrin:

[Pheritzelf]

That chearleader suit makes her look fat.. ¬_¬

Maybe Dawn has a serious case of gender confusion.. >>

[shedinjask]

Dawn probably did it because it looked cute. She wouldn't care about the gender.

[Pidgeotrainer]

I don't think a male Piplup would wear a cheerleader outfit so it has to be a female. Pikachu looks goofy in the first picture, heh.

Pidgeot

[Moonlight]

I'm assuming it is female, but I can be wrong.

But that Cheerleader outfit is a good hint towards a feminine hint

[scalec]

I always imagined her Piplup as a guy...I don't know why...

You're right, that does make it look fat.

[Kaioo]

the outfit Pikachu is wearing is actually kind-of female... as the fan is held by japanese women with little spikes hidden in for "killing". That is what it says in a book I read.

In the anime, all the Pokemon tend to have no gender...

[AshMistyMayfan]

Well, I think the rule of thumb regarding Pokemon gender...except with Aipom, Ash's Pokemon are boys and Dawn's Pokemon are girls. I kind of think it's silly because then you tell the audience that Ash's Pokemon are only good for gym battles and Dawn's Pokemon are good for contests. I'm more then positive Dawn's Piplup is a girl, just like Buneary, Pachirisu, and Aipom. I wouldn't be surprised if the 'Swinub' she'll have soon is a girl also. It's actually kind of weird that Dawn only has girl Pokemon. Dawn had Buizel, and it was obviously a boy Pokemon, but it never wanted to go into contests as it wanted to fight like a Fit Finley.:crackup:

I do agree on the anime that the Pokemon generally have 'no gender' ( a bunch of Unknowns/Magnimite type Pokemon), but it's again silly to think Ash and Dawn have genderless Pokemon.

[Fluffy Mew]

I always thought Pikachu was a girl..Meh.

[DragoniteMistress]

Am I the only one who really seems to notice that the Pokemon in the anime generally remain asexual, but occasionally take on the gender er... 'hints' from their trainer's genders?

Think about it,

if Pochama were to be dressed in the typical shogun (iirc) outfit, then this thread would be entirely about it being male, right? So really, whatever outfit the trainers throw their Pokemon in, the Pokemon generally remains asexual, with some hint of their trainer's personal appeal in it, so that you don't think too much about it.

[Lord Blood]

It should be a girl, except the picture looks so funny.

[PapaLuLu27]

I'm not so sure, Piplup looks pretty confused about why it's wearing a cheerleader costume in the 2nd picture.

[inyi]

I'm not so sure, Piplup looks pretty confused about why it's wearing a cheerleader costume in the 2nd picture.

actually piplup is worried about dawn and ambipom to not pass in the appeal round... and yeah, dawn and ambipom did not make it... instead Jessie or jessilena win it... haha

im a kind of sad that aipom as a ambipom frst contest as a ambipom she lost... poor ambipom.. :(

[Also]

It's clear that Dawn's Piplup is a girl.

[pokemaster202]

or it's homosexual

[AshMistyMayfan]

or it's homosexual

Oh man, not this again! I heard enough stuff on Ash, Misty, May, and Dawn! Let's drop this please about 'gay Pokemon', God that's sick man! Jeez know how many sick sites have inappropriate pictures of Ash and company? Terrible!

[pokemaster202]

Oh man, not this again! I heard enough stuff on Ash, Misty, May, and Dawn! Let's drop this please about 'gay Pokemon', God that's sick man! Jeez know how many sick sites have inappropriate pictures of Ash and company? Terrible!

What is "sick" about homosexuality. I'm not homosexual but what's wrong with a guy having a regular relationship with a guy

[shedinjask]

I'm more pissed at the fact that he seems to think crossdressing means gay.

Pokemon don't even wear clothes in the wild. Whatever their trainer dresses them up in, they're fine with, as long as it's comfortable. Piplup doesn't see a dress and think 'girl'.

[ChrisDPG]

And how do you know what pokemon think? Any dude would know if what he's wearing is feminine.

[shedinjask]

Not a Pokemon, who naturally don't wear clothes and naturally don't care about clothes. Male Gardevoir are proof enough. To their species, they probably don't look feminine, just normal. A Piplup would only really care about clothes if it was taught to, like humans are.

[AshMistyMayfan]

Anything on the issue of homesexual, this is suppose to be a PG forum about Pokemon, not the latest political bashing debate so let's not have assumptions of who the characters or Pokemon like, keep the debate about Dawn's piplup. It's not an issue of for or against, but that type of talk is inappropriate that I think a moderator will find offensive and maybe lock this topic if it gets reported so let's not TILT the subject please, thank you.

[Giratina]

Wasn't Piplup also in a vest, a more 'boyish' costume?

And how do you know what pokemon think? Any dude would know if what he's wearing is feminine.

Think about that. Maybe Pokemon and humans have different ideas on masculan/feminine things. You assume that Piplup sees it as feminine like Dawn does. Who knows, maybe black and red are the most feminine colors in the world to Pokemon, and pink and purple are totally masculan?

[kill_shot]

generally they don't give many hints as too what their sex is..
just that Meowth is male.
Pikachu is male(no slit in the tail)
squirtle is male
bulba is male(it fell in love with a female bulba)
lucario is male

[shedinjask]

generally they don't give many hints as too what their sex is..
just that Meowth is male.
Pikachu is male(no slit in the tail)
squirtle is male
bulba is male(it fell in love with a female bulba)
lucario is male
They didn't even have the gender differences in the first generation, so they could have created Pikachu with the idea of it being female. And damned if they're going to change its style in D/P.

[Giratina]

Just because Bulbasaur fell in love with a female Bulbasaur doesn't mean it's male. o .o

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

lol I'm not sure if they can EVEN be homosexual:ermm:, but we aren't sure if they even can.:tongue:

[Abcnonn]

seriously? there's a whole thread about the gender of 1 poke from the show? [goes to other site]

[kill_shot]

They didn't even have the gender differences in the first generation, so they could have created Pikachu with the idea of it being female. And damned if they're going to change its style in D/P.
yes i know, but in D/P it's still the same, and has some attitude characteristics of a male, therfor it's safe to assume he is a male


[QUOTE]Just because Bulbasaur fell in love with a female Bulbasaur doesn't mean it's male. o .o[QUOTE/] ya pokemon are like smart animals, they aren't homosexual.
notice nothing has ever been homosexual in pokemon...its aimed at kids and the creators aren't like king and king(some gay...literally....story book)

[camds]

I Would have thought piplup
was a female from the start, its the way it looks.

Camds,

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

I think Dawn's Piplup is female, and Ash's Pikachu is male. From the start since I saw them (Piplup in DP, Pikachu from the very beginning) I have always had that impression. BTW, I have always thought Team Rocket's Meowth was male, and I think I'm right about that.

[shedinjask]

yes i know, but in D/P it's still the same, and has some attitude characteristics of a male, therfor it's safe to assume he is a male

They're not going to change Pikachu's looks, that's why it looks male even though it may not be.

its aimed at kids

So were Cardcaptor Sakura and Sailor Moon.


I hear King and King was a great book.

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

Yeah, Ash's Pikachu's tail won't change since it was from the Kanto Region, not the Sinnoh Region. Unless there was a gene mutation or something that changed the females' tails, but I doubt it. Such a mutation would expose Ash's Pikachu's gender, though. However, its likes and dislikes and stuff like that point towards it being a male. For Dawn's Piplup, it points to her Piplup being a female. However, I may not be right, and we will know in due time, since the producers won't keep their genders a secret. In what way, though, I can't tell.

[Sardonyx]

Ash would have to cut parts off of Pikachu's tail then lol. I guess back then the Nintendo people didn't think about making a heart shaped tail for female Pikachus so I guess that's why Ash's Pikachu's tail hasn't changed.

[-Zodeon]

And how do you know what pokemon think? Any dude would know if what he's wearing is feminine.

Pokemon don't think mate, They're fictional characters.

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

Ash would have to cut parts off of Pikachu's tail then lol. I guess back then the Nintendo people didn't think about making a heart shaped tail for female Pikachus so I guess that's why Ash's Pikachu's tail hasn't changed.

Nah. A gene mutation due to radioactivity or something is more realistic.

[ORDinaryDreamer]

Didn't Buneary have a crush on Pikachu? And didn't Ash's Chikorita have a crush on Ash? So Ash did have a female pokemon before (not taking gays into consideration in a children's game).

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

Didn't Buneary have a crush on Pikachu? And didn't Ash's Chikorita have a crush on Ash? So Ash did have a female pokemon before (not taking gays into consideration in a children's game).

That Buneary of Dawn's? How would it have known Ash's Pikachu's gender? Remember, the Pikachu was from Kanto, so the tail... So we can't really tell Pikachu's gender just from this, you agree?

[knightman]

I think it's a girl.

Because Of the pictures you have and becase if it was a boy would dawn have that pokemon!!??

[shedinjask]

(not taking gays into consideration in a children's game)

Card Captor Sakura, Sailor Moon, and Harley would like to have a word with you.

That's a great idea, that Buneary thinks Pikachu is male because of its tail. Hilarious.

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

Card Captor Sakura, Sailor Moon, and Harley would like to have a word with you.

That's a great idea, that Buneary thinks Pikachu is male because of its tail. Hilarious.

Yeah. But one, unlike you, I'm serious, and two, just because I said all this, and that Ash's Pikachu is not interested in Dawn's Buneary, DON'T go around and tell everyone that Ash's Pikachu is female. Like I said, I have always believed that Ash's Pikachu is male. Just that all it's interested in is its kind. In other words, I look at both sides of an argument, just like any impartial person of normal sanity would. BTW, I think that Dawn's Piplup is female, because more proof points to it being female than male. Same for Ash's Pikachu. For more information, look back, and check Bulbapedia or something.

P.S. Though I never watched the above mentioned animes in full, I believe that there're homosexual characters in there? (Though I have watched glimpses of the first 2...)

[shedinjask]

I am serious, that would make a great fanfic, and I'm not going to go around telling people Pikachu is female., nor do I believe there's any concrete evidence of it I'm just saying that it could be.

Yep, CCS and Sailor Moon both had gay couples that were dubbed over. And Harley... is Harley.

[ORDinaryDreamer]

Card Captor Sakura, Sailor Moon, and Harley would like to have a word with you.

It's been so long since I saw/read CCS the reference has gone over my head, but lol, I think they were trying to make Harley come off more as metrosexual, not that he couldn't be homo - I just forgot about him at the time.:oops:

I am serious, that would make a great fanfic.
OMG! that totally would!:biggrin:

That Buneary of Dawn's? How would it have known Ash's Pikachu's gender? Remember, the Pikachu was from Kanto, so the tail... So we can't really tell Pikachu's gender just from this, you agree?

I don't agree with the whole tail theory. I mean, we haven't seen any pikachu from Sinnoh yet (have we?) so I'm not giving the tail thing a lot of consideration. And besides, there are some pokemon breeds that don't have differences between gender's appearances.

As for Buneary (yes it's Dawn's) It's most likely pokemon do know other pokemon's gender's, and I think most of us agree that Buneary's behavior, in the first episode it was in, was decidedly girly. Then logically, one could conclude Pikachu's a boy, or Buneary's gay (either way).

As for me, I've always felt Pikachu was a boy, unless someone can show me something pikachu did on it's own that was feminine (aka, not the clothes it dressed in - I dress my toy dog in girly things all the time, but he's still a boy:oops: ). Do people think Pikachu's a girl because he's cute? (I'd understand that, he's very cute!:razz:)

Ash's Pikachu is not interested in Dawn's Buneary, DON'T go around and tell everyone that Ash's Pikachu is female.

Ash's Pikachu has never been interested in any other pokemon before (that I can remember). If Ash's Pikachu were interested in Dawn's Buneary how would that make him female? What evidence shows that Dawn's Buneary would be male and thus Ash's Pikachu female if there was an attraction? Unless, that's not what you're trying to get at?

[pikachugirl2]

It's been so long since I saw/read CCS the reference has gone over my head, but lol, I think they were trying to make Harley come off more as metrosexual, not that he couldn't be homo - I just forgot about him at the time.:oops:


OMG! that totally would!:biggrin:



I don't agree with the whole tail theory. I mean, we haven't seen any pikachu from Sinnoh yet (have we?) so I'm not giving the tail thing a lot of consideration. And besides, there are some pokemon breeds that don't have differences between gender's appearances.

As for Buneary (yes it's Dawn's) It's most likely pokemon do know other pokemon's gender's, and I think most of us agree that Buneary's behavior, in the first episode it was in, was decidedly girly. Then logically, one could conclude Pikachu's a boy, or Buneary's gay (either way).

As for me, I've always felt Pikachu was a boy, unless someone can show me something pikachu did on it's own that was feminine (aka, not the clothes it dressed in - I dress my toy dog in girly things all the time, but he's still a boy:oops: ). Do people think Pikachu's a girl because he's cute? (I'd understand that, he's very cute!:razz:)



Ash's Pikachu has never been interested in any other pokemon before (that I can remember). If Ash's Pikachu were interested in Dawn's Buneary how would that make him female? What evidence shows that Dawn's Buneary would be male and thus Ash's Pikachu female if there was an attraction? Unless, that's not what you're trying to get at?


ok um well if pikachu was a girl he'd technically be gay in that case

http://i15.tinypic.com/4catkzk.jpg

this explains a lot

[AshMistyMayfan]

ok um well if pikachu was a girl he'd technically be gay in that case

http://i15.tinypic.com/4catkzk.jpg

this explains a lot

:crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crac kup:

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

ok um well if pikachu was a girl he'd technically be gay in that case

http://i15.tinypic.com/4catkzk.jpg

this explains a lot

Lol about the picture. But what where your words meaning? Please clarify.

And while we're there, where did you get that picture from?

[ORDinaryDreamer]

ok um well if pikachu was a girl he'd technically be gay in that case
I said that. -> Buneary's behavior, in the first episode it was in, was decidedly girly. Then logically, one could conclude Pikachu's a boy, or Buneary's gay (either way).
What I meant was that since Buneary's a girl that would mean either Pikachu's a boy, or in the case that Pikachu's a girl Buneary is gay.

Of course, there are other reasons Buneary would act "girly" when it was crushing on Pikachu, in the case that it's not female....but for the sake of simplicity let's make gay the only option. :ermm:

Nice picture btw :)

[inyi]

LOL i never thought this thread would be discuss a lot.. hehe

well for me, i belive piplup is female and Pikachu is male, although in the 1st season i though Pikachu a female...

about the Pikachu's tail issues, in sinnoh (games) Pikachu who has the heart shape tale is a female? well what can you say about the Pikachu's Goodbye episode, look at the tail of the wild Pikachus,

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/indigo/039/I247.jpg
look at closely the wild pikachus tail they were cutted at the tip or something...
at the left of the little pikachu is Ash's Pikachu,
look at the pikachu at the left Ash's Pikachu.. look at it tail, in the whole episode you wll see the wild pikachus with cutted tails....

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

LOL i never thought this thread would be discuss a lot.. hehe

well for me, i belive piplup is female and Pikachu is male, although in the 1st season i though Pikachu a female...

about the Pikachu's tail issues, in sinnoh (games) Pikachu who has the heart shape tale is a female? well what can you say about the Pikachu's Goodbye episode, look at the tail of the wild Pikachus,

http://www.serebii.net/anime/pictures/indigo/039/I247.jpg
look at closely the wild pikachus tail they were cutted at the tip or something...
at the left of the little pikachu is Ash's Pikachu,
look at the pikachu at the left Ash's Pikachu.. look at it tail, in the whole episode you wll see the wild pikachus with cutted tails....

...You better check up Pikachu's sprites on Bulbapedia. The tails are totally different. But you could well be right about those Pikachus being female. The climate could affect their tails.

And as I speak, my seemingly brilliant theory of a gene mutation amongst the females has fizzled out...:wall: Sigh.

P.S. Where is the smiley for sighing?

P.P.S. Stop getting out of point, or just change the thread's name... Apparently it's getting worse as even I cannot stop it. Oh well. If you can't beat them, join them... And so more and more people fall victim to the out-of-point trap. I'll try again: I believe Dawn's Piplup is female.

EDIT: At least I see the user before me attempt to halt the rot...

[Acer-V]

I'm going to say it's a female. Look at the games. If I remember right, the starter is always the same gender as the trainer. Dawn's a girl, so Piplup is too. idk, just an observation.

[riolu42]

Well, my friend's little sis has a male prinplup, and the player is a boy!!!

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

I'm going to say it's a female. Look at the games. If I remember right, the starter is always the same gender as the trainer. Dawn's a girl, so Piplup is too. idk, just an observation.

Well, I guess in this case you're right. But for the games, no matter who it is, you only have a 12.5% chance of picking a female starter, to keep players from breeding them. People keep resetting to get them anyway. Maybe you're talking about the anime.

[AshMistyMayfan]

:rolleyes:

I doubt it's homesexual, sheesh!:rolleyes:

[Ah Beng I the Pikabeng]

:rolleyes:

I doubt it's homesexual, sheesh!:rolleyes:

Me too. But there's always the possibility.

EDIT: It's homosexual. :P

[Assaundrell Yumerai]

Based on my surveys to my neighbors and to my fellow Pokemon fans, most of them said that Piplup is a girl(^^)