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bronislav84
09-01-2008, 02:05 AM
National Park Discussion Lounge
Sit down and take a break. Ask a question, make a comment or simply chat about National Park here. Be sure you check all the stickied threads first before asking a question, it may be answered there.
Please note that anybody who knows the answer can answer. It doesn't necessarily have to be me, per se.
Lonsie
09-01-2008, 03:43 AM
Can the Pokémon we use only be ones we have in the URPG?
Maleficent
09-01-2008, 03:59 AM
So, if we run out of run aways, how do we get back in the Park By signing up again?
bronislav84
09-01-2008, 04:35 AM
In order.
Yes.
And no, SUs are one time only, one character per person, and is reusable. You can leave and come back as long as you have money, but you do have to leave eventually.
GreenRampage
09-01-2008, 01:16 PM
So we can only use one character the whole time? I think you should be able to change your character to play with new personalities. Say, for example, someone really wants ghost types for a gym. So they make this good sign up for someone who likes ghost types, like a goth girl or something. But next time that player comes and wants a normal type, he/she is stuck with a goth girl to go out and catch a Cleffa. I just think it'd be more fun with the ability to have multiple personalities rather than just one. And it would be like optional so those who like their characters can keep them.
I dunno just a rant I thought might be helpful:silenced:
poke123
09-01-2008, 01:58 PM
Alright, so I had a question about buying stuff.
In your post it says to buy potions, revives, etc.. in the Pokemart. I don't know if you know this, but all non-held items were removed from the store.
So what would we do about that?
Trainer17
09-01-2008, 02:19 PM
GR : I don't know what would Bron say about this, But this is my thought. Make a character who represent you. You are the one RPing and capturing the Pokemon. This is an RP, but it's still URPG :]
Also, making more than 1 sign-up can be quite troublesome to keep up with, as we do need a record of who caught what Pokemon in the National Park.
Again, this is just what i think, Bron/Tiana might think otherwise.
poke123 : What non-held items are you referring to?
Which post says to buy potions and etc?
It would be really helpful, if you give clear details on your query. Thank you. ;]
poke123
09-01-2008, 02:39 PM
Battle Items
To buy items to use during battle, such as Full Heal or Super Potion, you need to visit the Pokemart (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=63) and order there. If you have entered National Park already, you may not visit the Pokemart to buy items to use here.
I'm talking about that. It says to buy Full Heals, Super Potions, etc... in the Pokemart for use in the Park, but we got rid of those items in the mart, remember?
Trainer17
09-01-2008, 02:45 PM
I'm talking about that. It says to buy Full Heals, Super Potions, etc... in the Pokemart for use in the Park, but we got rid of those items in the mart, remember?
I think Bron doesn't know that yet. I'll drop him a note about this. Thanks^^
poke123
09-01-2008, 03:06 PM
I think Bron doesn't know that yet. I'll drop him a note about this. Thanks^^
No problem. I think this will go really well, but I think I'll stick mostly to story writing. (I'll do this every once in a while because it seems like fun.:biggrin:)
Dog of Hellsing
09-01-2008, 05:35 PM
What I think is that these items are only for use in the Park, not during URPG battles. Remember, there's a seperate thread for the Park; we're not buying this stuff from the PokeMart, but from a Mart for the Park.
Thus why we're using them. They're for the Park, for RP use, NOT for general URPG use.
EDIT: Wow, phail XD. I has a headache, forgive me for not noticing earlier. Anyways, it's easy to rectify this: just move Hyper Potions and stuff to this Mart, and make them useable only for the Park. Problem solved! ^^
bronislav84
09-01-2008, 06:18 PM
So we can only use one character the whole time? I think you should be able to change your character to play with new personalities. Say, for example, someone really wants ghost types for a gym. So they make this good sign up for someone who likes ghost types, like a goth girl or something. But next time that player comes and wants a normal type, he/she is stuck with a goth girl to go out and catch a Cleffa. I just think it'd be more fun with the ability to have multiple personalities rather than just one. And it would be like optional so those who like their characters can keep them.
I dunno just a rant I thought might be helpful:silenced:What Sam said lower down, need to keep track of who caught what. Also I'm a continuity freak. Just make a character you'll be able to stick to, please. Pretty please with a cherry on top?Alright, so I had a question about buying stuff.
In your post it says to buy potions, revives, etc.. in the Pokemart. I don't know if you know this, but all non-held items were removed from the store.
So what would we do about that?Yea, didn't know that. I'll have to ask Harry and Tiana about putting them up for sale here. Mostly about what's fair prices.GR : I don't know what would Bron say about this, But this is my thought. Make a character who represent you. You are the one RPing and capturing the Pokemon. This is an RP, but it's still URPG :]
Also, making more than 1 sign-up can be quite troublesome to keep up with, as we do need a record of who caught what Pokemon in the National Park.
Again, this is just what i think, Bron/Tiana might think otherwise.
poke123 : What non-held items are you referring to?
Which post says to buy potions and etc?
It would be really helpful, if you give clear details on your query. Thank you. ;]What he said.
Can the Pokémon we use only be ones we have in the URPG?
Uh, guess I have to change my SU. Is it okay if we're a Pokemon?...
Oh, and, in the SU thread it says we can re-sign up with a differant character, so why are you guys having the discussion...
I still don't get the RPing, what, are we supposed to go to a Park and just find a Pokemon? How are we supposed to make something good?
Also, can you used the Pokeradar to attract legends so you can get a shot of them?
Jack of Clovers
09-01-2008, 08:28 PM
Yea, didn't know that. I'll have to ask Harry and Tiana about putting them up for sale here. Mostly about what's fair prices.
Yea, we need to put regular items back. I still have a copy of the prices:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem023.pngFull Heal - $1,000
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem019.pngFull Restore - $2,000
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem014.pngAntidote - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem017.pngAwakening - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem015.pngBurn Heal - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem016.pngIce Heal - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem018.pngParalyze Heal - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem021.pngHyper Potion - $1,000
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem020.pngMax Potion - $1,500
I still don't get the RPing, what, are we supposed to go to a Park and just find a Pokemon? How are we supposed to make something good?
Also, can you used the Pokeradar to attract legends so you can get a shot of them?
Yes, you role play yourself entering the park to catch a Pokemon, though it won't be as simple as it sounds. And no, you can't use the Pokeradar on Legendaries.
I'll be able to answer questions and help out too.
Bron- You changed the sign-ups. Weapons? :eh:
~Jack~
RawrIsMyMiddleName
09-01-2008, 08:35 PM
Do we need to be approved like regular RPs? Because I signed up and wanna buy sum stuff.
Jack of Clovers
09-01-2008, 08:49 PM
Yes, I think Bron wants everyone to be accepted before entering the RP, like any regular RP. The Park Mart is open to anyone, but you can't enter the park RP until being accepted.
~Jack~
Lord Celebi
09-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Bron- You changed the sign-ups. Weapons? :eh:
~Jack~
Bron and I have a PVP area planned for the lulz. That, and to contribute somewhat to the plot. Harry liked the idea.
I sent off the plot to Bron, so all he has to do is edit the main post, and I think we can get started...
bronislav84
09-01-2008, 10:18 PM
Uh, guess I have to change my SU. Is it okay if we're a Pokemon?...
Oh, and, in the SU thread it says we can re-sign up with a differant character, so why are you guys having the discussion...
I still don't get the RPing, what, are we supposed to go to a Park and just find a Pokemon? How are we supposed to make something good?
Also, can you used the Pokeradar to attract legends so you can get a shot of them?Actually, please go look again. For continuity's sake, one character per player, unless they want to have a second character for their Ranger if they are one.
I haven't sat down to read all the SUs, see further down as to why. I'm not sure how a Pokemon catching Pokemon would make any kind of sense, since it's similar to cannibalism, but you're not actually eating them. It's like you're basically a traitor to your own species.
SU thread was updated recently, everybody please check that you have all the new fields.
Legends are immune to Radars and Replants, or that would be unfair.
Yea, we need to put regular items back. I still have a copy of the prices:
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem023.pngFull Heal - $1,000
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem019.pngFull Restore - $2,000
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem014.pngAntidote - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem017.pngAwakening - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem015.pngBurn Heal - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem016.pngIce Heal - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem018.pngParalyze Heal - $500
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem021.pngHyper Potion - $1,000
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/rsitem020.pngMax Potion - $1,500
Yes, you role play yourself entering the park to catch a Pokemon, though it won't be as simple as it sounds. And no, you can't use the Pokeradar on Legendaries.
I'll be able to answer questions and help out too.
Bron- You changed the sign-ups. Weapons? :eh:
~Jack~Thanks Jack, feel free to put this into the list, since you can edit. I'm kinda on a limited schedule right now until the evening.
Other stuff has been answered, and it hasn't sorry if I missed you. :oops: Been doing craploads off-forum, I need a break.
Starkipraggy
09-02-2008, 08:52 AM
Which makes you wonder: Is there a chance that the Repels will misfire? Say this Charizard or Charmeleon hears it, and being aggressive by nature, goes nuts, charges towards the source of the disturbance (i.e. you) and tries to stomp it into the ground?
Frozen_in_Time
09-02-2008, 04:27 PM
Wondering, when, RP'ing (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2436339#post2436339), how do you know what area you are in?
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 12:29 AM
Silly Berry, go delete your post please. You can't know, because you still haven't been properly signed up. The actual Park RP is not active yet, and needs a plot.
Guys I have a life. I will finish writing the plot sometime by the weekened when I have time between schoolwork. That and process Signups. Tiana is grounded for a week, but says she will be here during the day, still.
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 01:34 AM
Silly Berry, go delete your post please. You can't know, because you still haven't been properly signed up. The actual Park RP is not active yet, and needs a plot.
Guys I have a life. I will finish writing the plot sometime by the weekened when I have time between schoolwork. That and process Signups. Tiana is grounded for a week, but says she will be here during the day, still.
I talked to you the other day regarding this Bron. Go get another Official besides Tiana, one that is very active. So that he/she may start approving the SU's and get the RP started.
I know that Tiana will do her job, but 1 more Official won't hurt.
Lord Celebi
09-03-2008, 01:50 AM
Silly Berry, go delete your post please. You can't know, because you still haven't been properly signed up. The actual Park RP is not active yet, and needs a plot.
Guys I have a life. I will finish writing the plot sometime by the weekened when I have time between schoolwork. That and process Signups. Tiana is grounded for a week, but says she will be here during the day, still.
I believe the plot is finished already, Bron.
I know that Tiana will do her job, but 1 more Official won't hurt.
Would anyone have a problem with me nominating myself to that position?
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 02:12 AM
Nah, there's a bit more I'd like to add to what you wrote, but if you think I should put up what you wrote now and add more later, I will.
And rusty I really think more than 2 Co-Owners is too much, but I've already said I trust you on stuff so sure, what did you have in mind? There isn't much to do right now (Not till the RP starts), honestly.
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 02:19 AM
Nah, there's a bit more I'd like to add to what you wrote, but if you think I should put up what you wrote now and add more later, I will.
And rusty I really think more than 2 Co-Owners is too much, but I've already said I trust you on stuff so sure, what did you have in mind? There isn't much to do right now (Not till the RP starts), honestly.
Sorry to intrude, but if you include Rust to be a Co-Owner, there is only 2. Tiana and Rusty. With you being the Owner.
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 02:27 AM
Owner means a person who owns something, in this case the whole Park, and I'd like to keep that to just two people. I was going to create a rank between Owner and Ranger and put rusty there (Although all Park Staff can still perform Ranger duties, Mart cashiering, and comment on SUs), among others which may be made later as the need arises. I can't decide what to name it though. :eh: Notice gun6 is marked as Consultant, because he said he didn't really want to be a full Ranger.
It's just that I'd like to keep it as just us two, Tiana and myself, as Owners and "wearing the pants" so to speak.
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 02:36 AM
Owner means a person who owns something, in this case the whole Park, and I'd like to keep that to just two people. I was going to create a rank between Owner and Ranger and put rusty there (Although all Park Staff can still perform Ranger duties, Mart cashiering, and comment on SUs), among others which may be made later as the need arises. I can't decide what to name it though. :eh: Notice gun6 is marked as Consultant, because he said he didn't really want to be a full Ranger.
It's just that I'd like to keep it as just us two, Tiana and myself, as Owners and "wearing the pants" so to speak.
I never asked you to add another Owner, but a Co-Owner or some sort, who has less privileges than the Owners themselves. Like approving the SU's and some other minor stuff. Meh, your choice. I said what I wanted.
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 02:43 AM
Dude, another Co-Owner = another Owner. Co means together. What did you think it meant? Anything else is confusing, to me especially. :tongue:
Now, any idea what to name the rank between Owner and Ranger? Of course anybody can suggest. I'm asking everybody.
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 02:46 AM
Dude, another Co-Owner = another Owner. Co means together. What did you think it meant? Anything else is confusing, to me especially. :tongue:
Now, any idea what to name the rank between Owner and Ranger? Of course anybody can suggest. I'm asking everybody.
Ok, I misunderstood that term :oops:
I thought a Co was a partner like, but not an entire Owner.
Anyhow, My name suggestion would be, "Ranger Elite".
Eraizaa-kun
09-03-2008, 02:58 AM
Hey, I was thinking, how about making it so that Honey has some sort of effect on the Park RPs.
I mean, Combee's Honey Gather ability has never been used because Honey only has an effect on the fields, so, now we have fields. Let's give that ability some use. = )
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 02:58 AM
Well of course we're partners and not an entire Owner together. Co means together as in half, like Co-Captains on a team, like. Neither has more authority than the other. I just think more than two of these is a bit much. But enough about that, eh?
Not bad. More names please? *goes back to neglected HW* :tongue:
EDIT: Erraiza explain the ability please, not the item, the ability lol.
Starkipraggy
09-03-2008, 03:04 AM
How about Power Ranger? XDXDXD
That WOULD be funny and make sense at the same time. XD
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 03:06 AM
How about Power Ranger? XDXDXD
That WOULD be funny and make sense at the same time. XD
You can be Pink Ranger.
Please be a little bit serious on this Starki :ermm:
Starkipraggy
09-03-2008, 03:11 AM
You can be Pink Ranger.
Please be a little bit serious on this Starki :ermm:
It could work. Meanie. v_v
It says POWER there. That is nothing short of 1337. Anyway, how would you NOT want to be a Power Ranger? You get more powers, ya know. So you're a more powerful ranger, thus Power Ranger.
Eraizaa-kun
09-03-2008, 03:45 AM
Honey Gather...well, after a battle, Combee has a chance of finding Honey. Like Pick Up, except you can only Pick Up Honey.
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 04:00 AM
Hey, I was thinking, how about making it so that Honey has some sort of effect on the Park RPs.
I mean, Combee's Honey Gather ability has never been used because Honey only has an effect on the fields, so, now we have fields. Let's give that ability some use. = )
Well, rather than using Combee's ability, We can try to use Honey as an item in the National Park, Whereby it can be used to increase a certain percentage of the actual percentage the Wild Pokemon Appears in the National Park.
Eraizaa-kun
09-03-2008, 04:05 AM
Yeah, that was the idea. It makes Honey Gather useful if Honey is useable. ^^
Ataro
09-03-2008, 05:31 AM
Okay, a few suggestions, after discussing with Harry.
Perhaps we can actually make use of the whole Tournament board for the Park, since it's not really used often for Tourneys anyway. That way, each trainer will have a personal thread of his own, and that will be less messy than a whole load of RP in a single thread. That will be more organized as well, seeing that the ranger and the trainer will have to post alot during the RP, we can't possibly have all of them all posting in the same thread. :rolleyes:
Additionally, we might need a stat thread to keep the trainer's items and stuff in view. So, we don't have a new board, but we can make it all in a single stickied thread instead, like the VPP. Hence, in order to search for your stats, you can either put it in your signature as a link or use the search function.
Okay, a few suggestions, after discussing with Harry.
Perhaps we can actually make use of the whole Tournament board for the Park, since it's not really used often for Tourneys anyway. That way, each trainer will have a personal thread of his own, and that will be less messy than a whole load of RP in a single thread. That will be more organized as well, seeing that the ranger and the trainer will have to post alot during the RP, we can't possibly have all of them all posting in the same thread. :rolleyes:
Additionally, we might need a stat thread to keep the trainer's items and stuff in view. So, we don't have a new board, but we can make it all in a single stickied thread instead, like the VPP. Hence, in order to search for your stats, you can either put it in your signature as a link or use the search function.
Another suggestion was to have one thread per a park location. So the Woods would be one thread and the Botanical Gardens would be another thread. Of course, like Ataro mentioned, it could become crowded if a lot of people are there.
SiberianTiger
09-03-2008, 06:05 AM
Can anyone tell me why it seems that catching a single Sceptile here would be more difficult than catching Lucario, Aerodactyl and a pair of Riolu in a single URPG story?
Edit: @ Ataro: Tourney board is fine as is >_>
~Isaiah
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 06:05 AM
As Ataro mentioned, Trainer + Ranger can create a new thread for every National Park visit the Trainer does. Just that, the Ranger can make the first post, indicating all requirements, the location they are going and stuff. When the Trainer catches a Pokemon, close it.
Can anyone tell me why it seems that catching a single Sceptile here would be more difficult than catching Lucario, Aerodactyl and a pair of Riolu in a single URPG story?
Edit: @ Ataro: Tourney board is fine as is >_>
~Isaiah
The rarity of the pokemon is currently being reworked so that it is very similar to that of the story section. The changes will be posted soon.
Ataro
09-03-2008, 06:09 AM
Can anyone tell me why it seems that catching a single Sceptile here would be more difficult than catching Lucario, Aerodactyl and a pair of Riolu in a single URPG story?
Edit: @ Ataro: Tourney board is fine as is >_>
~Isaiah
I know. But unless there's a new board, we might just have to use it. Unless we're gonna have a messy Park.
As Ataro mentioned, Trainer + Ranger can create a new thread for every National Park visit the Trainer does. Just that, the Ranger can make the first post, indicating all requirements, the location they are going and stuff. When the Trainer catches a Pokemon, close it.
There might be an overload of threads though. I think Harry's idea would work out more than mine.
Splishee
09-03-2008, 07:48 AM
Another suggestion was to have one thread per a park location. So the Woods would be one thread and the Botanical Gardens would be another thread. Of course, like Ataro mentioned, it could become crowded if a lot of people are there.
Coincedentally, I was just thinking and discussing that with Fire Away yesterday. Here's my support of this suggestion. ^^
About the whole Sceptile business: people are under the impression it will be easier to catch Pokemon in the Park. Since role play comes more naturally to most, and is somewhat easier to work off a set storyline rather than think up a creative story. Because, for most (not all), it is. It is still the same amount of effort put into it (though with longer lengths), but with a simpler structure for unsure writers, as they are helped along by the ranger most of the time.
At least, that's what I've figured. :/
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 08:45 AM
On Combee, I don't see why that wouldn't work. Using Honey in the field (Not on a tree) while standing in Tall Grass as the same effect as Sweet Scent. It's just a matter of making it work here properly, and adding a way to get Honey without having a Combee.
Splish has the right idea on the hardness of stuff caught. It's not any easier. Harry I'd like to see what you're working on, because I admit there's not enough randomness with encounters. Please don't go behind my back. That's majorly unfair. (More on that in your PM box, in reply to what you sent me)
Ok now about the multiple threads.
Having individual threads for each pair of people makes it crowded as somebody said. Also makes events impossible.
Having individual threads for each location still makes events impossible. What is an event exatly, you ask? An Event is as it sounds. Some occurence that affects the whole Park. I can't give specifics because that would be spoilers of things to come, but I will give other examples.
An MMORPG often has stuff happen in the game that players can participate in, and affects the whole world, like monster invasions near towns, or even armies of monsters attacking multiple towns in large swarms.
It would be impossible to coordinate an event if multiple threads were in place, since different players in different zones may choose to react differently. A unified RP thread means Park Events that affect the whole thing are actually possible. It's no fun if the same stuff happens for eternity, so I've had the idea to bust out Events to have stuff happen that's out of the ordinary. Why should the RP thread here be any different than say, RPs in the Pokemon and Other Roleplay sections?
Stuff to think about.
Stinky
09-03-2008, 10:07 AM
bron, I just have to say, once you accept all those sign-ups, EVERYONE will be RP'ing in that thread. No one wants to read through the entire thing just to find one of your posts, as there'll be a lot of posts. Why not have one for each trainer's excursion or one thread for each ares (like previously stated), and then just have an announcement thread?
Iridium
09-03-2008, 10:23 AM
Why don't we move the current Tournaments to the Battles boards till a new board for the National Park is made? There are only one or two active tourneys together and that'll just be 2 or 3 boards. There certainly needs to be seperate threads for every par visit, it'll be really unorganized and crowded otherwise.
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 10:26 AM
Why don't we move the current Tournaments to the Battles boards till a new board for the National Park is made? There are only one or two active tourneys together and that'll just be 2 or 3 boards. There certainly needs to be seperate threads for every par visit, it'll be really unorganized and crowded otherwise.
Agree. One Trainer + Ranger gets one thread per visit. It will be organized and neat. As only the Ranger and the Trainer post there turn by turn.
Unlike if you post all entries in one thread, it confuses both the Ranger and the Trainer, and there will be more posts from the other entrants as well.
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 10:56 AM
Canis let me ask you, how is everything in a unified thread any different from other RPs you've participated in? This is not a new concept. I'm gonna use a current example.
If we were to assume that this is applied to existing RPs, then there should be a thread for each town in the Pokemon World (Standard "Go on a Pokemon journey" RPs), a thread for each planet in the Corona Star system (Team RP 5), and everything would be really hard to follow because events in one place do affect the others and people change zones. Especially since (For example) if you and T17 were two players in the RP (Assume it's just you two and the Rangers with you) and you could meet and travel together. Again, how is this any different than what normally happens in RPs?
You seem to think that this is meant to somehow be different from those RPs. It's meant to be like them, but the Pokemon you catch do affect your URPG profile. But what you do while you are in the Park RP is RP, and it's meant to be like any other RP, just that it takes place among the URPG sections and not inside the Pokemon Roleplay section.
Pokelord, that is what was intended from the beginning. The Park was to have it's own section, grouped with the Stories (This and stories grouped as Sub-boards of a section that can't be posted in and posts can only be made in the Sub-boards), but Ryan is inactive and asking him to make boards is impossible. The Park is here for now as a temporary home, just so it could operate. You have the right idea, just that it can't be put into effect, sadly.
Iridium
09-03-2008, 11:03 AM
Pokelord, that is what was intended from the beginning. The Park was to have it's own section, grouped with the Stories (This and stories grouped as Sub-boards of a section that can't be posted in and posts can only be made in the Sub-boards), but Ryan is inactive and asking him to make boards is impossible. The Park is here for now as a temporary home, just to it could operate. You have the right idea, just that it can't be put into effect, sadly.
We can do what I said though. Move the tourney to the battles board, and use this for the national park with seperate threads for every person. When we get that National Park board, the stickies and the active RP threads can be moved to that board and the tourneys can be brought back here.
Ataro
09-03-2008, 11:10 AM
Canis let me ask you, how is everything in a unified thread any different from other RPs you've participated in?
It is different in that rangers and trainers have to post several times before a capture is done.
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 11:11 AM
We can do what I said though. Move the tourney to the battles board, and use this for the national park with seperate threads for every person. When we get that National Park board, the stickies and the active RP threads can be moved to that board and the tourneys can be brought back here.Thank you for bolding it for me. Saves me the trouble.
Again, that would not be a Roleplay and goes against the concept or a Roleplay. Go read my two posts before this one.
These are not forum Battles. These are not Stories. This has elements of both, but it's neither. It's it's own thing. First and foremost, it's a Roleplay. What you are proposing is not a Roleplay but Forum Battles in the Anime Style. That can already be done, and this Park would just be an extension of Forum Battles and that's not what it's intended to be. If you make this into separate threads, then it destroys the essence of what this is meant to be: An ongoing story of a place, affected by the actions of the participants. This is the essence of Roleplaying, where the players shape the story, and if you take that away it's destroys the Roleplay.
Please read this and understand that what you are proposing is destroying the heart and soul of Roleplaying.
Oh and moving the Tourneys out of here is not up to me, so no comment.
And Ataro you made that up. There is meant to be no differences in how this is run from anything in the Pokemon Roleplay section. It's not just Trainer and Rangers, it's participants. The fact that they have designations is a nonfactor when you write stories like this with others. Read what I wrote, all of it.
Ataro
09-03-2008, 11:14 AM
Thank you for bolding it for me. Saves me the trouble.
Again, that would not be a Roleplay and goes against the concept or a Roleplay. Go read my two posts before this one.
These are not forum battles. These are not Stories. This has elements of both, but it's neither. It's it's own thing. First and foremost, it's a Roleplay. What you are proposing is not a Roleplay but Forum Battles in the Anime Style. That can already be done. If you make this into separate threads, then it destroys the essence of what this is meant to be: An ongoing story of a place, affected by the actions of the participants. This is the essence of Roleplaying, where the players shape the story, and if you take that away it's destroys the Roleplay.
Please read this and understand that what you are proposing is destroying the heart and soul of Roleplaying.
And Ataro you made that up. There is meant to be no differences in how this is run from anything in the Pokemon Roleplay section. Read what I wrote, all of it.
I didn't make them up, that is a fact. :|
Imagine several trainers posting their RPs, then different rangers getting to them. So we have something like RP, Ranger Post, RP, RP, RP, RP, Ranger Post, RP, Ranger Post, Ranger Post, etc. How messy would that be?
Iridium
09-03-2008, 11:20 AM
Thank you for bolding it for me. Saves me the trouble.
Again, that would not be a Roleplay and goes against the concept or a Roleplay. Go read my two posts before this one.
These are not forum battles. These are not Stories. This has elements of both, but it's neither. It's it's own thing. First and foremost, it's a Roleplay. What you are proposing is not a Roleplay but Forum Battles in the Anime Style. That can already be done. If you make this into separate threads, then it destroys the essence of what this is meant to be: An ongoing story of a place, affected by the actions of the participants. This is the essence of Roleplaying, where the players shape the story, and if you take that away it's destroys the Roleplay.
Please read this and understand that what you are proposing is destroying the heart and soul of Roleplaying.
Oh and moving the Tourneys out of here is not up to me, so no comment.
And Ataro you made that up. There is meant to be no differences in how this is run from anything in the Pokemon Roleplay section. It's not just Trainer and Rangers, it's participants. The fact that they have designations is a nonfactor when you write stories like this with others. Read what I wrote, all of it.
I think I get what Bron means. There's a beginning story and then people continue on it, along with rangers posting the outcome. But it'll be better if any ranger does that, not a specific one for a special trainer. Say:
Trainer A: Let's use Thunderbolt on that Pidgey, Jolteon!
Trainer B(in a completely different battle): Use Fire Blast on Weedle, Typhlosion!
Ranger A:
Trainer A's Jolteon uses Thunderbolt on Pidgey, Pidgey fainted!
Trainer B's Typhlosion uses Fire Blast on Weedle, Weedle fainted!
Something along those lines.
Is that what you mean, except that one ranger posts for just one trainer? @_@ This is really confusing tbh :x
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 11:25 AM
I edited the post. Read it again some more.
Again I say, you are not seeing the bigger picture here. They're not just Trainers and Rangers, but Participants in a story that's happening here. Events of one pair are supposed to affect other pairs, as that's how Roleplays work.
If somebody starts a forest fire, it affects others in that Zone, possibly in other Zones, as Pokemon start to migrate to escape. But others wouldn't know that, because if it was separated, they're in their own little world, and that's not how this is intended to work. Separating them out would make that impossible, eliminating any possibility for an ongoing story where the past affects the future and has consequences, which is how Roleplays work.
Now about the supposed mess you claim, that's normal in Roleplays with many people participating, which is how this is supposed to be. Go check out the Pokemon Roleplay/Other Roleplay boards if you're doubtful.
If you doubt this, then I doubt you've really been in a Roleplay before, or you would know this, which is standard procedure, not a new concept that should be explained like this.
Pokelord is kinda right, but really watered down and shortened. I was considering not limiting Rangers to Trainers, but that makes it harder to ask to buy items from them if a specific Ranger is not physically with you.
Iridium
09-03-2008, 11:30 AM
True, I haven't been any RPs before and I don't think Ataro has been in any (not sure), so you're supposed to give us an idea of how things will go on. Not every person in the URPG has been in RPs. From the guide you posted it just appears as if a ranger and a trainer and interacting with each other, nothing else. Give us a clear picture, Bron.
EDIT: You added that last part in later xP Anyways, I would suggest small stalls in the Park itself where you can buy item and not from the rangers. It'll make things much easier, trust me.
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 12:16 PM
I'd just like to say about the guide, Jack wrote that guide, not me. I just added working links. I looked it over and found it adequate. I didn't touch it more than that, because it's his and not mine. Jack's guide does still assume the reader knows how a Roleplay works.
Lord, dude, the thing is, this is first and foremost meant to be a Roleplay. I never said that this is for everybody. There are multiple ways to gain Pokemon, this is only one of them. If RPing is not somebody's forte, you don't have to participate.
Not everybody can write, not everybody can write well, not everybody can write....at all.
I'm trying to give an idea, but the ideas I give assume the audience reading them understands how RPs work, even a little, and so far you two have basically proven you don't. It's really hard to explain to you when you have such limited knowledge of the subject. As I said, not everybody can write.
I'm not trying to say "This is for elite people, go away" but what I am trying to say is, a certain level of writing and knowing how RPs work is a expected when participating in this. The general rule of thumb is, if you have written a Fanfic or around "Hard" Story, you should be right at home here. If you can write a Story at all, not very much adjustment is needed, because you can write already.
This isn't for everybody. Please don't take this the wrong way. I'm really sorry that I went off on some of you, if it looked like that. It's just so hard to explain when I'm so stressed from lack of sleep and school bearing down on me. I'm not trying to offend people, but I have to stress that not everybody can Roleplay, so this is not for everybody. But people can be taught and learn if they allow themselves to be taught.
Oh yea, and about the stalls, it needs some tweaking and could be hard to integrate. The original that this is based on didn't have stalls, so there's no precedent and it would be hard to integrate without disrupting the natural habitats of Pokemon. Imagine vending machines in The Amazon Rainforest as an example of what this would look like.
I tried to explain this to you in AIM, but you seem to be having trouble staying on.
(I need to get to school now, so please people, don't have a Nuclear War in here [AKA Large Argument] while I'm gone ok? Please?)
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 12:32 PM
I told you this on AIM, and I'm saying that here as well. As far as I can see, National Park is just a place for people who can write really well, and only they can truly benefit from this. As you've mentioned, People who can do Hard Category story and above or those who even written their own Fan-Fics.
I imagined the National Park to be a place which was not only a new way to catch Pokemon, but also where everyone can have fun participating in this like they do in the Underground, FFAs, Tournaments and such.
Pretty much this just helps people who are good at writing to become even better.
and Bron, Don't worry, we're not having any Nuclear War here, we're just voicing out our questions/suggestions/ideas/opinions :p
this is the Discussion Lounge after all, isn't it?
Iridium
09-03-2008, 12:40 PM
I agree with Sam. When I first joined URPG, I knew like very little about battling. But I read the guides and stuff, and I'm a decent battler. The same should happern here. I can write, but I can't say I'm really that good. This should be for all the members of the URPG, not just those who can write well. As Sam said, the National Park and in fact, the whole URPG is supposed to be a way of having fun and not just for those who are good in a respective field.
Not that all this matters though, I'm not going to have my way :rolleyes:
Deathspector
09-03-2008, 12:55 PM
I think everyone's taking Bron's suggestions the wrong way.
RPing in the sense that he's talking about is something people can learn and develop just as much as being able to battle well. Heck, people can learnt and develop writing, and even if they don't have a natural flair, they'll do just fine. From what I can tell, the Park is merely another way to catch Pokémon. Just like you can write stories. Or you can buy them. Some buy, some write. Similarly, some can RP.
A one-thread RP has worked and will always work. You don't have to be a Godly RPer to be able to pull it off. Just have a peak at the RP board right now and you'll see some young and inexperienced writer's joining and making their own RPs. There's not much to an RP, and I think that Bron was just trying to offer people another way to catch Pokémon.
What if someone doesn't have the money to buy a Pokémon, but can't write good enough stories? Maybe he can RP?
It's just another idea; I don't think shooting it down is going to help. It's not like it's being forced on anyone, right?
Deathspector
Dog of Hellsing
09-03-2008, 01:57 PM
Look at RPing in this way: it's basically an interactive story, one that not only you, but everyone taking part, help develop. You don't come up with the whole plot on your own, but going by what others contribute to the story. Just read a few recent RPs, then read some stories or fics, and you'll see what I mean.
Just as anyone can learn to write, anyone can learn to RP, because they're both essentially the same thing. This isn't about catering to one group of people. If that were true, the same thing could be said about Stories: that they cater only to people who can write well. We all know that's not true.
As for the stats issue, why not just use our current URPG stats for them? We already have what, five posts we're allowed to have here for our stats? Why not use one for Park Stats, or increase the number we're allowed to have to seven or so? I personally don't have a limit, since I use Probaords, but it could work well for people who have their stats here.
For Honey, have it be something you can buy from the Ranger for X amount of money. This keeps people from having to have a Combee to get Honey.
Bron, get on AIM, and I can talk with you more about stuff ^^. I wantz to contributez!
EDIT: So can we meet up with others who are currently in the Park and RP with them? From the way you say it, it sounds like we can, and that'd be pwn.
Also, say X Ranger wants to go into the Park, but is currently guiding another Trainer through. Could we both go through it and lead another at the same time? Or would we have to wait till we finished one or the other?
Mmmm, as I see it, this can be compared to a Live Action Roleplaying Game or a tabletop that involves more than just 5 people.
There is one overarching storyline that encompasses various groups and individuals. The Ranger (some would call him Game Master) is part of the group that helps coordinate the efforts and decisions of all the trainers in the park with each other. One action might have an effect elsewhere. It is up to the rangers to keep track of what's going on and make sure that their trainer experiences everything that happens.
The quote system will be very useful in this case. Rangers and trainers should probably use it often to keep track of who's doing what.
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 02:31 PM
Look at RPing in this way: it's basically an interactive story, one that not only you, but everyone taking part, help develop. You don't come up with the whole plot on your own, but going by what others contribute to the story. Just read a few recent RPs, then read some stories or fics, and you'll see what I mean.
Just as anyone can learn to write, anyone can learn to RP, because they're both essentially the same thing. This isn't about catering to one group of people. If that were true, the same thing could be said about Stories: that they cater only to people who can write well. We all know that's not true.
As for the stats issue, why not just use our current URPG stats for them? We already have what, five posts we're allowed to have here for our stats? Why not use one for Park Stats, or increase the number we're allowed to have to seven or so? I personally don't have a limit, since I use Probaords, but it could work well for people who have their stats here.
For Honey, have it be something you can buy from the Ranger for X amount of money. This keeps people from having to have a Combee to get Honey.
Bron, get on AIM, and I can talk with you more about stuff ^^. I wantz to contributez!
EDIT: So can we meet up with others who are currently in the Park and RP with them? From the way you say it, it sounds like we can, and that'd be pwn.
Also, say X Ranger wants to go into the Park, but is currently guiding another Trainer through. Could we both go through it and lead another at the same time? Or would we have to wait till we finished one or the other?What the lady says is right. Listen to her guys.
TT what is this about stats issue? I don't remember there being an issue. Five posts? Where are you getting this? I'm sorry, I have no clue where it's coming from. :eh:
I will add Honey to the Mart right now before I go.
Yes, people can meet up and stuff. It's fun.
And Rangers can have two characters, one for their Ranger duties and one for their Trainer, so they can do both at once.
I'm sorry TT but this will be my last post before school, so I cannot get on AIM. Maybe tonight?Mmmm, as I see it, this can be compared to a Live Action Roleplaying Game or a tabletop that involves more than just 5 people.
There is one overarching storyline that encompasses various groups and individuals. The Ranger (some would call him Game Master) is part of the group that helps coordinate the efforts and decisions of all the trainers in the park with each other. One action might have an effect elsewhere. It is up to the rangers to keep track of what's going on and make sure that their trainer experiences everything that happens.
The quote system will be very useful in this case. Rangers and trainers should probably use it often to keep track of who's doing what.Harry you have the right idea. http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif
Y'all can meet me at about 9PM eastern time. I finish school at 5PM but mom wants to go to Macys after. TT I'd love to hear your ideas.
Harry we need to talk about all the stuff I PMed you. I know you've read it.
And last but certainly not least, I have made BIIIIIG updates to the Rules, the Signups, and the RP thread, so head over there now to take a look! Also a small change to the Mart, cookie to the person who finds it! More to come soon so stay tuned!
Dog of Hellsing
09-03-2008, 03:38 PM
TT what is this about stats issue? I don't remember there being an issue. Five posts? Where are you getting this? I'm sorry, I have no clue where it's coming from. :eh:
My bad, I thought people were having a hissy fit over what to do with stats, when it was mostly about what to do with "seperate" RPs. But the issue was brought up a few times, I believe.
And yeah, when the rules were updated (this was when the Items like Hyper Potion were removed from the general Mart, and other interesting stuff happened), it was agreed that people could have a few more posts for their stats. I was figuring that if it became a big issue on what to do about peoples' Park Stats (since it'll be easier for people to keep track of their own things, instead of Rangers having to do all of it), they could just use a post in their stats for the Park stuff. Or Harry could let the post count go up by one or two to be devoted entirely to Park stuff. It would keep any of the boards from being cluttered, since these things would be added to pre-existing posts.
Heh, I've got a few ideas to use for my RP char, I just can't decide who to use ;_;...
Oh, what's this "test" Fenix was working on? I'm sure it's in here somewhere, but I've gotta go to bed soon and don't feel like reading through the thread >>...
Trainer17
09-03-2008, 04:02 PM
Oh, what's this "test" Fenix was working on? I'm sure it's in here somewhere, but I've gotta go to bed soon and don't feel like reading through the thread >>...
It's something like the Grader's Quiz, Ref Test, just to see if you qualify to become a Ranger.
Heh, I can still quote over what Bron said to me at AIM, which convinced me that this RP is catering to one group of people. But no, I don't wish to ruin anything or even complain/spam or whatever you call it. Bron worked hard for this. So I won't intrude much.
I'll just sit here and do my part around the URPG, nothing more. Bron, do me a favor and remove me from the Ranger List. I know I still have to go through the test, but as I told you, I ain't even a good RP player, or will I even become one. If you have any other work around the National Park, I'll be glad to help. Other than that, pretty much nothing from me. Thanks.
-Sam
bronislav84
09-03-2008, 06:33 PM
Trainer you can also add to that quote the part where I offered to teach you and critique you when you said you suck. Please don't withhold info man. Just because the good writers are what this is aimed at doesn't mean people with sub par skills (Like you claim to have) can't participate.
I'm writing this with a clearer head now, and yes, people with sub par skills can still practice and learn and participate just fine.
There's been at least three or four posts from others saying "You can learn to write, just give it a chance" but all I'm seeing from you is that you think you're bad. Come on man, are you really giving up without trying? At least try to climb the steep hill first before saying you can't do it. Who knows man, maybe you'll manage?
I'm probably babbling though. It's just not what I'd expect from somebody who told me they wanted to see the park succeed and help get it there.
Lord Celebi
09-04-2008, 01:12 AM
And rusty I really think more than 2 Co-Owners is too much, but I've already said I trust you on stuff so sure, what did you have in mind? There isn't much to do right now (Not till the RP starts), honestly.
Dare I ask what the position title yields? Call me Park Gamesmaster and call it a day, any title has the same power in which is needed at the moment; approving Sign-Ups and starting up the RP, since you need someone to do a lot of work on this in your stead, since we only have a finite amount of time for preparation...
bronislav84
09-04-2008, 02:08 AM
Dude Rangers are already Game Masters. I still need to write up the exact powers of Rangers, but let's just say that Rangers are on par with a D&D Game Master already. Quite litterally with what I'm planning.
I can't decide on a name for this rank man, or it's limits. I need to finish the rules on the powers of the staff before this though, and add the starting off story to the Plot. I'd do it now, but I'm afraid I still haven't slept.
School was a drag, it's a hot day, and tomorrow I have school early. When I have more time tomorrow after school, I will add more details to what's missing, probably finish it. Y'all don't mind waiting another day, I hope? I don't have school Fridays, so I can start as soon as I get home tomorrow with mom from Macys (We didn't go today cause it was so hot), and I will.
Oh and Harry, I'm sorry but I have try to go to sleep early tonight. I did some work on the stuff that's missing, I hope that's enough to count for something, that I'm making progress toward opening this very soon. I haven't slept and I've been under a lot of pressure.
Trainer17
09-04-2008, 12:14 PM
Trainer you can also add to that quote the part where I offered to teach you and critique you when you said you suck. Please don't withhold info man. Just because the good writers are what this is aimed at doesn't mean people with sub par skills (Like you claim to have) can't participate.
I'm writing this with a clearer head now, and yes, people with sub par skills can still practice and learn and participate just fine.
There's been at least three or four posts from others saying "You can learn to write, just give it a chance" but all I'm seeing from you is that you think you're bad. Come on man, are you really giving up without trying? At least try to climb the steep hill first before saying you can't do it. Who knows man, maybe you'll manage?
I'm probably babbling though. It's just not what I'd expect from somebody who told me they wanted to see the park succeed and help get it there.
Heh, Alright. I'll see what I can do. Even If I fail the test, I'll do some contribution to this Park. Peace.
-Sam
Lord Celebi
09-04-2008, 12:26 PM
Dude Rangers are already Game Masters. I still need to write up the exact powers of Rangers, but let's just say that Rangers are on par with a D&D Game Master already. Quite litterally with what I'm planning.
No, its one word Gamesmaster, meaning master of the game within the park. There's a difference. :P
Either way, mind if I start accepting Sign-Ups and taking Mart Orders?
No, its one word Gamesmaster, meaning master of the game within the park. There's a difference. :P
Either way, mind if I start accepting Sign-Ups and taking Mart Orders?
Anyone accepting Sign-Ups and taking Mart Orders needs to be approved by Bron and the council. The mart orders are already being carried out by people approved for the URPG mart. As for Sign-Ups, the plot has yet to be posted.
We're taking things step by step.
bronislav84
09-04-2008, 07:58 PM
Actually Harry, people on the Ranger list have been doing the Park Mart orders up till now. It's just math man, do you really care if they didn't pass Tracy's test yet? Would be kinda silly to have to redo all the orders, no?
I'm ok with putting up rusty to Supervisor, but he's being pretty demanding about it.......:eh:
Lord Celebi
09-04-2008, 08:43 PM
I'm ok with putting up rusty to Supervisor, but he's being pretty demanding about it.......:eh:
I'm not being demanding, I just want to get stuff done, if that's okay. :P
Jack of Clovers
09-05-2008, 12:02 AM
I edited the information about Honey. The Pokemon are listed from easy to rare. Feel free to edit as necessary.
Honey - $2,000
Increases your chance to attract specific Pokemon that like honey. Burmy, Cherubi, Aipom, Combee, Heracross, and Munchlax.
To use, spread Honey on a tree or bush. 1 time use.
Also added the Honey Gather ability, which allows Combee to pick up Honey only after a battle. If there are any new DP abilities or Outside Moves that can be added, please let us know so we can add them too.
~Jack~
bronislav84
09-05-2008, 12:47 AM
Thank you Jack, wasn't sure how to describe that correctly so I was holding off on it.
But I'm pretty sure that in the DP games, Honey has the same effect as Sweet Scent doesn't it? Although it could have both if we make it be any tree or bush, but just using it on the ground has a Sweet Scent effect like in the games. What do you think?
Jack of Clovers
09-05-2008, 01:19 AM
Yes, similar to Sweet Scent. But there would be a higher percentage to find those specific Pokemon that normally would be found with Honey. That's what I would think.
~Jack~
Lord Celebi
09-05-2008, 01:29 AM
Thank you Jack, wasn't sure how to describe that correctly so I was holding off on it.
But I'm pretty sure that in the DP games, Honey has the same effect as Sweet Scent doesn't it? Although it could have both if we make it be any tree or bush, but just using it on the ground has a Sweet Scent effect like in the games. What do you think?
Honey is spread on trees to attract specific Pokemon. Using Sweet Scent on a tree yields nothing in D/P.
bronislav84
09-05-2008, 01:45 AM
rusty don't tell me you've never stood in grass and used a Honey. I did, and had a mon attack me like Sweet Scent.
Jack I like that idea. What do you think the description should say? I mean the part about it acting like Sweet Scent.
Lord Celebi
09-05-2008, 01:58 AM
rusty don't tell me you've never stood in grass and used a Honey. I did, and had a mon attack me like Sweet Scent.
Jack I like that idea. What do you think it should say?
o_0 That's new.
I think Jack is referring to slathering it on trees though, not just opening it.
bronislav84
09-05-2008, 02:02 AM
Right, of course he is. I meant the other effect, if we should have it at all and what it should say. I'm like 99% sure Honey has a Sweet Scent field effect while standing in grass, which attracts mon from that location.
Trainer17
09-05-2008, 02:09 AM
Actually Harry, people on the Ranger list have been doing the Park Mart orders up till now. It's just math man, do you really care if they didn't pass Tracy's test yet? Would be kinda silly to have to redo all the orders, no?
I'm ok with putting up rusty to Supervisor, but he's being pretty demanding about it.......:eh:
Have to agree with Bron. Anyone willing to help or know basic math can be a Park mart Cashier. Or seeing that some people are already doing that, why don't approve them? :tongue:
Jack of Clovers
09-05-2008, 02:24 AM
In that instant, anyone could approve Pokemart orders. For now, since the Park is just starting, let's keep it to a select amount of people, specifically Mods and Officials, Bron and Tiana, and perhaps a couple more.
I'll get back to you on the honey later.
~Jack~
Trainer17
09-05-2008, 02:28 AM
In that instant, anyone could approve Pokemart orders. For now, since the Park is just starting, let's keep it to a select amount of people, specifically Mods and Officials, Bron and Tiana, and perhaps a couple more.
I'll get back to you on the honey later.
~Jack~
I was just agreeing with Bron on something, didn't entirely say go with it. Meh, I got nothing more to say. I'll just waste more time and effort of mine.
bronislav84
09-05-2008, 02:47 AM
Jack I meant that for now, it really shouldn't be a problem that those on the waiting list for Tracy's test do orders. They all could potentially end up passing, and they've been doing such a good jon on the orders, I really don't think it's too much of a problem to let those on the waiting list continue doing Mart orders, no? It's just math right? What's the harm?
Lord Celebi
09-05-2008, 11:11 PM
In that instant, anyone could approve Pokemart orders. For now, since the Park is just starting, let's keep it to a select amount of people, specifically Mods and Officials, Bron and Tiana, and perhaps a couple more.
I'll get back to you on the honey later.
~Jack~
Jack I meant that for now, it really shouldn't be a problem that those on the waiting list for Tracy's test do orders. They all could potentially end up passing, and they've been doing such a good jon on the orders, I really don't think it's too much of a problem to let those on the waiting list continue doing Mart orders, no? It's just math right? What's the harm?
I am allowed to accept Park Mart orders, correct?
bronislav84
09-05-2008, 11:48 PM
You need both mine and the URPG mods approvals before you can be a Supervisor, so nope, sorry rusty.
People on the Ranger list can't do it either 'cause they need to pass Tracy's test. So its just Tiana and I and whoever already does Pokemart orders.
I'll be back later tonight to write full plot and more rules, y'all. Finally went to Macy's with mom and I ache all over.
Lord Celebi
09-06-2008, 04:27 AM
You need both mine and the URPG mods approvals before you can be a Supervisor, so nope, sorry rusty.
People on the Ranger list can't do it either 'cause they need to pass Tracy's test. So its just Tiana and I and whoever already does Pokemart orders.
I'll be back later tonight to write full plot and more rules, y'all. Finally went to Macy's with mom and I ache all over.
Thought you said I was an automatic pass.
I am really confused at the moment.
bronislav84
09-06-2008, 06:22 AM
What I said is that you have my approval easy. I don't remember mind controlling the mods to approve you, or the other Rangers passing Tracy's test like Harry and Jack said they should first. Kay?
Trainer17
09-06-2008, 12:03 PM
Just wanted to highlight something here, Bron said I have my freedom of speech, that's why I'm even posting here in the first place.
If anyone of you guys are working on a certain Idea/such for the National Park, please ask Harry/Bron and make sure that no one else is working on them. So that you know that you're the only one who have thought of the Idea entirely, and no raffles such as "Dude, you stole my idea!" or "Damn it! That was my idea!" or anything along those lines occurs.
Not only would it wastes your effort and time, but it can really upset the other if they had worked on it before you had. I hope you guys understand. Thanks.
bronislav84
09-06-2008, 05:18 PM
But Sam, what that means is, we entertain ideas from everybody, and anybody who has a similar idea as somebody else is allowed to present it for review anyway.
Dog of Hellsing
09-07-2008, 02:56 AM
Question!
How do we decide how often to roll for Mon? I mean, since we get 500 per encounter for each visit, what's to keep a Ranger from making their Trainer encounter like, 15 Mon? Maybe we should put a cap on appearances? I dunno. I just want to make sure Rangers don't try to get too greedy, since we DO have a finite amount of money for this area.
And oh! I has an idea about how we could incorporate Swarms into this, if anyone cares to hear it lol. Like every three months (or whatever), Bron or someone rolls a die for each area equalling the number of Common and Intermediate Mon in those areas. That Mon then Swarms, giving it maybe an extra 30 or 40% chance of appearing. The Swarm could last maybe a week or a whole wage period (2 weeks) or whatever. Thoughts?
bronislav84
09-07-2008, 04:13 AM
Yea, I never thought about putting an encounter limit. The Park has a finite bank to work with, because adding to inflation is not my cup of tea, which promotes the Park as inflation free. I had this idea because we would be making pretty good money, so using an infinite money source shouldn't be required, and as I said before, doesn't add to the money already in circulation (Of which there is alot).
Putting a limit sounds cool in theory, but hard in practice. Too little and people wouldn't get paid enough. Too much and we run the risk of not being able to pay everybody, which I'm hoping won't be a problem judging by how the Mart did the first few days. I'm sure people will buy more when their supply runs out or new people start playing, since those who bought now just kinda prepared themselves and have everything they need for a while.
As for the actual cap, lets find something that gives the Player enough variety to choose from (If they don't really come into the place knowing what mon they really want, which does happen), while being enough so that Rangers don't get overpaid.
Somewhere in the ballpark of 15 to 20 sounds reasonable to me.
And about the Swarms, how about we hold off on that until the place has seen some business for a little bit first before adding new features? Sounds cool though, imo.
I should have something to present for a story before the weekend is over. The one that's already there needs major edits.
Oh, and anybody know a place online that lets you put in how many numbers to roll? Custom sided dice, as in if I need a 3 sided die which doesn't exist in real life and just need a random number between 1 and 3, or heck, even like 2 and 4. So I suppose what I'm really asking is for a place that can roll any sided die, and possibly not start at 1 and end at whatever is the max. random.org was not helpful.
poke123
09-07-2008, 04:19 AM
Oh, and anybody know a place online that lets you put in how many numbers to roll? Custom sided dice, as in if I need a 3 sided die which doesn't exist in real life and just need a random number between 1 and 3, or heck, even like 2 and 4. So I suppose what I'm really asking is for a place that can roll any sided die, and possibly not start at 1 and end at whatever is the max. random.org was not helpful.
well, you can roll dice in AIM chatrooms.
Trainer17
09-07-2008, 11:54 AM
But Sam, what that means is, we entertain ideas from everybody, and anybody who has a similar idea as somebody else is allowed to present it for review anyway.
Yea, It would be a bummer, if you worked so hard for your idea, and this somebody comes along, describes your idea in a different way and that gets approved. Imagine how that feels. =/
You know what? I'm done with this. I do not wish to add anything else.
-Sam
Dog of Hellsing
09-07-2008, 01:32 PM
Appearance Cap: Well even if the cap is only 10, that's still 10k. Still, a cap of twenty sounds fine, because it's rare that a lot of Trainer will want that many encounters. Also, even if a Trainer does go through that many, the Ranger still only gets 20k. And since that's actually somewhat of a dinky payout, I doubt too many Rangers would be willing to stretch out specific RPs as long as it would prolly take (epecially if the Trainer is a massive RPer, like rust XD).
Swarms: We could always make these into events instead of having them be every so often. But yeah, details like this can wait until the Park is up and has gotten situated.
BTW, any idea when Tracy might be done with that Ranger Test? I wantz to takez it lol.
EDIT: Oh, Bron, yeah, you can roll a x-sided die in AIM. Like I' ve said, I've rolled a 496-sided one with no problems. I don't know how high the number of sides can go, or if there's a limit or not, but I'm sure you wouldn't need more than 496? Heh. Anyways, in case you don't know, type //roll-dice1-sidesx in the message window, where x is the number of sides. So like, if you wanted a 245-sided die, type //roll-dice1-sides245 and it'll roll a die with 245 sides. ^^
Trainer17
09-07-2008, 01:38 PM
Appearance Cap: Well even if the cap is only 10, that's still 10k. Still, a cap of twenty sounds fine, because it's rare that a lot of Trainer will want that many encounters. Also, even if a Trainer does go through that many, the Ranger still only gets 20k. And since that's actually somewhat of a dinky payout, I doubt too many Rangers would be willing to stretch out specific RPs as long as it would prolly take (epecially if the Trainer is a massive RPer, like rust XD).
Swarms: We could always make these into events instead of having them be every so often. But yeah, details like this can wait until the Park is up and has gotten situated.
BTW, any idea when Tracy might be done with that Ranger Test? I wantz to takez it lol.
EDIT: Oh, Bron, yeah, you can roll a x-sided die in AIM. Like I' ve said, I've rolled a 496-sided one with no problems. I don't know how high the number of sides can go, or if there's a limit or not, but I'm sure you wouldn't need more than 496? Heh. Anyways, in case you don't know, type //roll-dice1-sidesx in the message window, where x is the number of sides. So like, if you wanted a 245-sided die, type //roll-dice1-sides245 and it'll roll a die with 245 sides. ^^
From what I can see, Tracy's is concocting a Test way more evil then the Grader/Ref test combo! :dance:
Dog of Hellsing
09-07-2008, 01:42 PM
From what I can see, Tracy's is concocting a Test way more evil then the Grader/Ref test combo! :dance:
:O
Squeee! As long as we don't have to determine weather damage or HP recovery or something, I'm still looking forward to it ^^. I phail at calc'ing those, though I can manage with everything else (except Evasion/Accuracy ;_;).
*Loves having an excuse for massive, complex RP posts.*
>> I write too much...
Anyways, is there any idea, even a vague one, of when it'll be ready?
Trainer17
09-07-2008, 01:49 PM
:O
Squeee! As long as we don't have to determine weather damage or HP recovery or something, I'm still looking forward to it ^^. I phail at calc'ing those, though I can manage with everything else (except Evasion/Accuracy ;_;).
*Loves having an excuse for massive, complex RP posts.*
>> I write too much...
Anyways, is there any idea, even a vague one, of when it'll be ready?
You still have Calculate some stuff, but have a mixture of RP in it.
Eg. Tackle damage on Camerupt's stomach is more than to it's hilly hump.
That was what Bron said giving Torkoal's Shell as an example.
Should be close though. Ask Harry. He should have an rough idea of when that's done.
EDIT : To Jack/Bron/Harry, add people to the Park Mart. So that we know who can approve and stuffs for now. Thanks.
Try to add in new recruits if you can.
You still have Calculate some stuff, but have a mixture of RP in it.
Eg. Tackle damage on Camerupt's stomach is more than to it's hilly hump.
That was what Bron said giving Torkoal's Shell as an example.
Should be close though. Ask Harry. He should have an rough idea of when that's done.
EDIT : To Jack/Bron/Harry, add people to the Park Mart. So that we know who can approve and stuffs for now. Thanks.
Try to add in new recruits if you can.
As has already been stated, any officials, moderators, or URPG Mart approvers can approve the Park Mart. That is already quite a lot.
Trainer17
09-07-2008, 04:01 PM
As has already been stated, any officials, moderators, or URPG Mart approvers can approve the Park Mart. That is already quite a lot.
No new people eh. Heh, whatever.
poke123
09-07-2008, 08:06 PM
I have a question.
How would the radars work?
I get that they will definitely lead you to the type, family of mon, or specific mon depending on the type of radar. What I don't understand is how the mon you encounter will be decided.
For example: If you use the type radar, does the ranger roll a die with the number of sides equal to the total number of mons in the area (excluding third forms) that have the type that you chose?
What about regular Pokeradars?
Does the ranger roll a two sided die (or one sided, depending on the number of mons in the evolutionary line) to see if you which mon from that evolutionary line you encounter?
Thanks to whoever answers this.
Trainer17
09-08-2008, 01:16 AM
I have a question.
How would the radars work?
I get that they will definitely lead you to the type, family of mon, or specific mon depending on the type of radar. What I don't understand is how the mon you encounter will be decided.
For example: If you use the type radar, does the ranger roll a die with the number of sides equal to the total number of mons in the area (excluding third forms) that have the type that you chose?
What about regular Pokeradars?
Does the ranger roll a two sided die (or one sided, depending on the number of mons in the evolutionary line) to see if you which mon from that evolutionary line you encounter?
Thanks to whoever answers this.
Yeah, you got it basically. Dice Rolls are done to determine what Pokemon you encounter in the Park. But, they are still discussing over how and in what way can it be done, so I suggest you to wait a while till the final decision is made on how Dice Rolls could work in deciding what mons should appear in the Park,
-Sam
bronislav84
09-08-2008, 02:19 AM
Plot is updated, detailed setting information is still to be posted. Those who have incomplete Signups or ones that don't agree with the Plot, please edit them before I start looking on Monday night.
Iridium
09-13-2008, 02:47 PM
EDIT: Oh, Bron, yeah, you can roll a x-sided die in AIM. Like I' ve said, I've rolled a 496-sided one with no problems. I don't know how high the number of sides can go, or if there's a limit or not, but I'm sure you wouldn't need more than 496? Heh. Anyways, in case you don't know, type //roll-dice1-sidesx in the message window, where x is the number of sides. So like, if you wanted a 245-sided die, type //roll-dice1-sides245 and it'll roll a die with 245 sides. ^^
You can roll a mazimum of 15 dies with 999 sides :tongue:
Dog of Hellsing
09-19-2008, 02:19 PM
Well, we have our seperate thread for the Park...but now Bron is all MIA-y ;_;. Plus, we still don't have the Ranger Test. Bleah...maybe we can have Temp Rangers until the test is put up. But then we need someone to approve SUs...@__@...
Trainer17
09-19-2008, 02:23 PM
Well, we have our seperate thread for the Park...but now Bron is all MIA-y ;_;. Plus, we still don't have the Ranger Test. Bleah...maybe we can have Temp Rangers until the test is put up. But then we need someone to approve SUs...@__@...
Heh, I told this to Bron 1000s of times. Appoint someone who can accept the SU's to get this place running. He was saying Tiana could do that or something >__>
bronislav84
09-19-2008, 05:13 PM
If I go MIA, you will know in the leaves thread in OC. It's called "Having a life" you guys. I've had school and a life, so has she. I'm hoping to get goin on this again this weekend.
I just wish I didn't have to bug Harry and the others for stuff like deleting posts and whatevers.
Took me a while to realize it's got it's own section now. Shen told me.
Dog of Hellsing
09-19-2008, 05:26 PM
I has life too, trust me. It's why I hardly have time to get on AIM anymore. But really, even before getting it's own area, the Park has been kinda ready. We've really only needed some Rangers and some SUs approved, and a test-run, of course. But we can't do a test-run without some Rangers/Trainers to run it.
Anyways, approving SUs is easy enough, well, you know what I mean. Harry or one of the others could do it too, right? What we really need is for someone (like Harry XD) to appoint us some Temp Rangers until Tracy can find the time to finish/post her test. Once we have a few Rangers and Trainers whose SUs have been approved, we can does a trial run. Or something.
That is to say, if the plot and everything is completely sorted out and such? It seems solid enough for us to do a quick test on, and maybe even to start with. We could always add to it and expand it as things moves along, ne?
I would be happy to approve SUs, but I is not qualified, so sorry ^^. Nor can I say, "Hey you two are Temp Rangers yay!" lol. Just trying to offer ideas and stuff. *Shot for being useless.* OH NOEZ X__X...
DaRkUmBrEoN
09-19-2008, 05:27 PM
If I go MIA, you will know in the leaves thread in OC. It's called "Having a life" you guys. I've had school and a life, so has she. I'm hoping to get goin on this again this weekend.
I just wish I didn't have to bug Harry and the others for stuff like deleting posts and whatevers.
Took me a while to realize it's got it's own section now. Shen told me.
You've got me on Xfire bron, just nag on there to me.
I'm suddenly the resident janitor.
-]DU[-
bronislav84
09-19-2008, 05:56 PM
Well I think TT, you are qualified to be a Supervisor if you want the position. You and rusty have my approval, now you need the other half to make it real and done. I personally think you'd do a better job of the SUs than he would, but that's mostly because you RP better than him. No offense rusty but you know she does. I personally think everybody on the list of "who works here" or the associated mods/Gmods (Those with any kind of knowlege about what it takes to make a good SU I mean) should be allowed to comment on the SUs, but Supervisors and up actually make the comments that have to be followed.
The plot is done, the setting is not really important while SUs are still being approved/finished up, and that could take longer than this weekend.
And DU thanks for the offer, I'll keep that in mind.
Guys we need to set up a chat for Rangers/Staff/URPG mods/involved Gmods (Harry/TT/Jack/etc) and get a talk going on what I'd like everybody to know. There's just some stuff that's needed that so far is only worked out my my own head that is slightly hard to explain in text because it's situational, and it's not good if others don't know it (Might just compile it into a thread and mark it SPOILERS instead). Also we need to get a chat going for the simple fact so that we are all on the same page as to how people start off.
What's a good time for everybody? I'm good for Fri-Sun, pretty much anytime that isn't a school day for me.
PS: Ryan rocks for getting it done like this finally, yay. :cool:
Trainer17
09-20-2008, 01:44 AM
Don't talk like you're the only one with a "Life" Bron, We all have lives, We just want to get the Park started, that's all.
On the hand, I think TT would do very well as a Supervisor. Go Jess! <3
Anyways, Good luck with the Park.
-Sam
Mitsuzo-kun
09-20-2008, 01:47 AM
I just wish I didn't have to bug Harry and the others for stuff like deleting posts and whatevers.Lols you're as subtle as a brick. (:
Uhh, nice job with this? If I can be bothered I'll put up an SU. JESS 4 PRESIDENTSUPERVISOR!
Dog of Hellsing
09-20-2008, 08:12 AM
:oops:
Aw, thanks guys ^^. If you think I'd be good Supervisor material I'd be more than happy to do what I can to get this off the ground and moving forward.
Hmmm, I'm not off till Monday ><...But I'll be on all of Monday up until around the early morning hours. Yes, I will be on the computer for that long XD. I'm available for talking anytime then, so yeah. I might be invis though, so IM me just to make sure I'm not hiding, if I should be "offline."
Hmmmm, I've already told Harry, but I'd be more than happy to help out with the test-run, if we have one.
:P And yeah, it's nice to see this get its own area. Park FTW!
Kendo
09-20-2008, 08:49 PM
I haven't signed up yet, but just wondering, have people even started roleplaying here? If so, where exactly would the park roleplay go? Do you make a topic saying "Bob's National Park Adventure #1", or do you post in a certain topic?
Splishee
09-21-2008, 01:57 AM
Everyone role plays in the National Park Roleplay (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88463).
To learn about everything that happens in the Park, and how to Role Play within it, look over in the National Park Rules (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88458).
:)
Kendo
09-21-2008, 10:10 PM
Everyone role plays in the National Park Roleplay (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88463).
To learn about everything that happens in the Park, and how to Role Play within it, look over in the National Park Rules (http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?t=88458).
:)
That...doesn't really answer my question.
I mean, if the RP has really started, how come there's no place to roleplay? Or how come I don't see it?
Bryce
09-21-2008, 10:23 PM
That...doesn't really answer my question.
I mean, if the RP has really started, how come there's no place to roleplay? Or how come I don't see it?
It hasn't started yet. No Sign-Ups have been approved... Things are still in the late-process of being set up. When Bron begins accepting sign-ups or assigns someone to it, then it will start. :P
The Jr Trainer
09-21-2008, 10:39 PM
It hasn't started yet. No Sign-Ups have been approved... Things are still in the late-process of being set up. When Bron begins accepting sign-ups or assigns someone to it, then it will start. :P
And once there are actual certified rangers, or I'd think so at least. :x
I do want to get a test run going and when we have a proper discussion, we will get some going.
I do want TT, Bron, Tiana, Jack, and Tracy in on the chat. Most of the critical components of the park involve these people. There is a lot that needs to be discussed still.
Dr Scott
09-22-2008, 01:22 AM
I wouldn't mind sitting in on the chat, just to see what's going on.
That way I can stop asking you, Harry.
bronislav84
09-22-2008, 09:06 PM
Ugh, my monitor died Saturday. Sorry guys, but I'll have to take longer to finish what I still need to get done.
But do post your times, those who are coming, and you know who you are. We should all meet and have a talk together, so we're all on the same page about the nitty gritty deep details that aren't immediately obvious. There's gotta be a date and time we can all agree on, that suits everybody. It's not a closed chat though, just that not many people are really needed, just the ones directly involved
And Kendo how does that not answer your question? The first link goes to the RP thread. The fact that it's empty should be of no consequence. That's where the RP is going to be happening. There need to be ready staff and ready players, so of course it's still empty.
Kendo
09-22-2008, 09:21 PM
And Kendo how does that not answer your question? The first link goes to the RP thread. The fact that it's empty should be of no consequence. That's where the RP is going happening. There need to be ready staff and ready players, so of couse it's still empty.
I thought there were ready players and at least one ready ranger (I saw one signed up), sorry.
bronislav84
09-22-2008, 09:28 PM
Only one? You must mean me then. I'd personally prefer to take that test too, since I don't want people to do something I myself have never done.
And Signups will be processed when I'm not in school (Like now, posting from the computer lab when I should be typing homework), and when I replace my monitor.
Only one? You must mean me then. I'd personally prefer to take that test too, since I don't want people to do something I myself have never done.
And Signups will be processed when I'm not in school (Like now, posting from the computer lab when I should be typing homework), and when I replace my monitor.
But nothing can be started yet until at least Bron and I talk. There is one or two major things to go over before we start the Test Rounds.
Lusitania
05-24-2009, 04:23 PM
If I may, I might suggest that you give requirements for each of the levels to get a Pokemon in the RP. It seems rather...vague...at the moment.
Nyurgh
05-24-2009, 04:30 PM
Wow, I didn't even think anybody was touching the National Park when I first joined. But it looks like it's moving forward. Can't wait until it finally opens. This would make catching Pokemon easier, since YOU provide the story(you do, right?), so I'm not constantly attempting an idea and then scrapping it.
Lusitania
05-24-2009, 04:52 PM
Wow, I didn't even think anybody was touching the National Park when I first joined. But it looks like it's moving forward. Can't wait until it finally opens. This would make catching Pokemon easier, since YOU provide the story(you do, right?), so I'm not constantly attempting an idea and then scrapping it.
From what I understand, yes, they do indeed provide the story.
Redino987
05-24-2009, 05:36 PM
If this list is out, does it mean that the park is going to open soon? is there a set date? and final question, how does one sign up?
DarkGardevoir
05-24-2009, 09:41 PM
If this list is out, does it mean that the park is going to open soon? is there a set date? and final question, how does one sign up?
We're still in the middle of the trials, of which the Adventure one, the one that pretty much follows this list of Pokemon habitats, didn't even start due to lack of interest/RM being busy.
So, no, park isn't open as of now, but things are progressing. Characters sign-ups aren't needed, you'll make them when you join the scenario of choice. To my understanding, that's it.
@Nyurgh: what do you think Harry, RM, and we people taking part in the Mission Trial Run are doing? Picking up daisies? It may not look hard on us, but we're still working toward having an efficient park. If you thought no activity was going on here, you could've as well taken a look at what was happening in this board.
Maleficent
05-24-2009, 10:42 PM
Outer Heaven, my kind of place.
Great list, Sam.
Redino987
05-24-2009, 11:41 PM
Thanks DG, now for one more question: is there a way to join in whats happening now, or is it too late?
Lusitania
05-24-2009, 11:46 PM
Thanks DG, now for one more question: is there a way to join in whats happening now, or is it too late?
No. You can't. Now gtfo
Kidding kidding -_-
We're still in the middle of the trials, of which the Adventure one, the one that pretty much follows this list of Pokemon habitats, didn't even start due to lack of interest/RM being busy.
So, no, park isn't open as of now, but things are progressing. Characters sign-ups aren't needed, you'll make them when you join the scenario of choice. To my understanding, that's it.
@Nyurgh: what do you think Harry, RM, and we people taking part in the Mission Trial Run are doing? Picking up daisies? It may not look hard on us, but we're still working toward having an efficient park. If you thought no activity was going on here, you could've as well taken a look at what was happening in this board.
Amen.
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