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inyi
09-18-2008, 10:27 AM
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lets talk it here...

for you who is the weakest among ash's bird Pokemon?
is it:

Pdgeotto / Pidgeot

Noctowl

Tailow / Swellow

Starly / Staravia

for me its Ash's Noctowl the weakest... i didnt see it special in power and strenght , unless it being shiny pokemon... strongest is Swellow.. Pidgeotto is just not cared about by poke writers and staravia w will see improvements in the coming episodes...

theEND
09-18-2008, 06:41 PM
Pidgeotto. It was the fiercest and most aggressive of them all in terms of personality and battling. Swellow takes second for second-most screentime in battling, whereas Noctowl takes third for also being very powerful in very rare moments.

That leaves Staravia. Not a very convincing Pokemon until it's a Staraptor.

Dark Lightning
09-18-2008, 07:08 PM
Noctowl, probably. I eat Noctowl for breakfast. >:D

Neon_Espeon
09-18-2008, 10:01 PM
Lol, I actually forgot he even HAD a Noctowl. And I don't remember It doing anything special beside's being Ash's first shiny Pokémon, so I'd probably pick him(?).

faceplant527
09-18-2008, 11:15 PM
noctowl was the weakest, but i had respect for it. remember when it battled steelix??? it was good. and its shiny too !!!

soralatioskairilatias
09-19-2008, 02:43 AM
In my opinion Noctowl was the weakest of Ash's Bird Pokemon.

Soda
09-19-2008, 05:06 AM
Swellow was weakest, IMO

Staraptor will be win, unless Ash uses it in one battle and then just gives it away. :susp:

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
09-19-2008, 05:23 AM
Swellow was weakest, IMO

Staraptor will be win, unless Ash uses it in one battle and then just gives it away. :susp:

I disagree with your first paragraph, but agree with the second. Reason: Electric resistance. Unless you tell me that all of Ash's other bird Pokemon can also resist electricity like it did in Ash's double Gym battle in Mossdeep (Thunder Armor). Remember when it was a Taillow? In that Pokeringer competition, it actually resisted a Volbeat's Thunder direct hit at it. (Doesn't matter which Pokemon used Thunder...) It also showed its resistance when Ash battled and caught it. A normal-flying Pokemon resisting Thunder cannot be Ash's weakest bird Pokemon unless you can prove all his other flying types he ever had could also resist electricity. And he won't give away his current bird Pokemon, which is the bird he's battled with a lot. Whether it evolves into Staraptor or not is still not decided yet, I think.

Trainer17
09-19-2008, 05:27 AM
Noctowl for the fail.
Strongest : Swellow/Pidgeotto.

Meh, haven't seen Noctowl in that much action compared to the others.

Dark Turtwig
09-19-2008, 05:41 AM
Well, either Noctowl, or Staravia. The only reason Staravia is strong at all is because it now knows BRAVE BIRD. Which is uber strong in the Anime. Otherwise, it has fainted a lot. Unlike Turtwig. Turtwig can take a few hits. (Remember Ash vs. Roark? Turtwig survived multiple Attacks, but finally fainted after a while. Then Pikachu came and won, and took the glory. (Like always. :susp:))

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
09-19-2008, 09:33 AM
I call for Staravia. Second weakest is Noctowl. Staravia hasn't fully evolved yet, and Noctowl's shiny, which is stronger in Generation II games. (Funny, when I first watched the series, I never noticed it's shiny and only when I rewatched than I realised it...) It was also shown in Generation III in the anime that Winona's shiny Swellow was stronger than normal ones. This shows the epicness of shiny Pokemon compared to the Normal Ones. If I'm not wrong, Pokemon in their 3rd out of 3rd evolution form from base form are weaker than ones in their 2nd out of 2nd evolution form from base form, which are weaker than ones in their 3rd out of 3rd evolution form from base form, and that you can change everything to baby and have it still hold true. (But I could be wrong...) And because of this I would have believed that the Pidgeot is the strongest, followed by the Swellow... if not for the latter's remarkably high resistance to electricity. It's *ohmage. Then again, I haven't seen all of Pidgeot's special abilities (if any - hey, it got released the episode it evolved, how would I know?!), so I can't tell. I think Swellow's stronger than Noctowl though due to its ohmageness, since both are 2 out of 2 in terms of evolution form. But I've seen Noctowl, and other than the fact that it's shiny, there's hardly anything else, and Ash used it more for searching for stuff like his Pikachu when it got stolen and for bursting Team Rocket's balloon than for battling. And the well-learned ones out of us know that Ash regularly battled with his Swellow. See, a difference. (However, when Pidgeot battled you saw its bigger movepool and it had better attacks than Noctowl, even while it was a Pidgeotto...) Therefore, Pidgeot and Swellow are stronger than Noctowl, and like I said, Pidgeot and Swellow take the top 2, then it's Noctowl, then Staravia, which if evolving will be in the top 3.

PokeGamer
09-19-2008, 10:39 AM
Noctowl never showed its power in Battles

Red X
09-19-2008, 12:04 PM
I think that Staravia, and Noctowl are the weakest pokemon. But Staravia, still has poenital when he evolves to Staraptor, leaving noctowl the weakest.

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
09-19-2008, 01:19 PM
Noctowl never showed its power in Battles

Yeah? Tell that to Morty in EP182.

Snake Bite
09-19-2008, 01:26 PM
Staravia sucks ash. Pidgeotto was awsome. Noctowl was intresting, but not perticuralt the best.

-Zodeon
09-21-2008, 04:54 PM
Pidgeotto. It was the fiercest and most aggressive of them all in terms of personality and battling. Swellow takes second for second-most screentime in battling, whereas Noctowl takes third for also being very powerful in very rare moments.

That leaves Staravia. Not a very convincing Pokemon until it's a Staraptor.

I completely agree with the first two, although I think that Staravia is stronger than Noctowl. Ash's Noctowl is veryyy lame.

GreenRampage
09-21-2008, 06:08 PM
The only thing I remember about Noctowl is that it learned like Confusion in the middle of the battle. It was weird. Anyway Pidgeot is the strongest since it protects an entire forest. Swellow's okay though the stupid Mossdeep gym battle made me wanna kill it. And Staravia could go in any direction.

Probably Noctowl was the weakest, but only cause it got no air time.

Also what about Charizard, Gliscor, and Butterfree?

the-guy-you-wish-you-were
09-21-2008, 06:09 PM
swellow is the weakist of ash's pokemon

Mitsuzo-kun
09-21-2008, 06:14 PM
Also what about Charizard, Gliscor, and Butterfree?They weren't really "bird" Pokemon, if you think about it. :|

I'd have to say Swellow. I haven't seen any DP episodes, so I don't know of Staravia. But out of Pidgeot, Noctowl, and Swellow, Swellow definitely sucks the most. Pidgeot just owned throughout the entire first series, and Noctowl got loads of cool attacks like Hypnosis and Confusion. ;D

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
09-22-2008, 05:30 AM
They weren't really "bird" Pokemon, if you think about it. :|

I'd have to say Swellow. I haven't seen any DP episodes, so I don't know of Staravia. But out of Pidgeot, Noctowl, and Swellow, Swellow definitely sucks the most. Pidgeot just owned throughout the entire first series, and Noctowl got loads of cool attacks like Hypnosis and Confusion. ;D

I beg to differ. Big time. For starters, it's not every day you see a normal flying bird actually resist electricity. many are just fried by it. Check the Pokeringer competition episode (where it also went through a tornado or something and got the ring after evolving in there; how many base form birds even dare to just try that?), and the episode where Ash gets his 7th Hoenn badge. Of course, if you can prove that all of his other bird Pokemon could also do that, I'll admit defeat, but until then, my point stands firm. With proof. Apparently everyone but me overlooked that, even after I posted the same thing TWICE before this. Sigh.:rolleyes:

kinghoo
09-22-2008, 07:41 AM
Staravia sucks ash. Pidgeotto was awsome. Noctowl was intresting, but not perticuralt the best.

Noctowl loves to s;eep very often.. LOL

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
09-22-2008, 08:54 AM
Noctowl loves to s;eep very often.. LOL

Lol typo error. BTW, Noctowl as an owl Pokemon is nocturnal (i.e it's active at night and sleeps in the day), so that's natural you'd think that way since Ash and co travel in the day.

inyi
10-15-2008, 01:53 PM
Lol typo error. BTW, Noctowl as an owl Pokemon is nocturnal (i.e it's active at night and sleeps in the day), so that's natural you'd think that way since Ash and co travel in the day.

Id just find out that Ash's Noctowl is smaller than normal ones, and Ash's Pidgeot is larger than those in Sinooh Region.. :confused:

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
10-22-2008, 02:24 AM
Id just find out that Ash's Noctowl is smaller than normal ones, and Ash's Pidgeot is larger than those in Sinooh Region.. :confused:

So I see, but I don't know what you're trying to imply...

The Admiral GiMoo
02-01-2009, 11:33 AM
He had a Noctowl? Wow.

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
02-02-2009, 10:23 AM
He had a Noctowl? Wow.

Well yeah. He used it in Johto and it's now in storage.

Game Over
02-02-2009, 08:44 PM
Noctowl, Because unlike Pidgeot or Swellow, I don't remember Noctowl ever battling in an elite 4 type of tournament and staravia has the potential to be as good as pidgeot.

inyi
03-17-2009, 01:46 PM
Well, Staraptor Rocks!

Pidgeot and Staraptor were my fav. now!!!!

riolu42
03-17-2009, 02:03 PM
Hmmm.......

Staravia seems to be the weakest, but when he evolves, he'll be strong.

Sadly, i'm gonna have to say after Staravia evolves, Noctowl will be the weakest.

It goes in this order of strength, the last being the weakest.

1. Pidgeot
2. Staraptor
3. Swellow
4. Noctowl:sad:

I like Noctowl.

I was thinking of putting Swellow in the second part, since he withstood lots of lighting. But, I decided that Staraptor would defeat him in combat.

Ajarr
03-17-2009, 08:27 PM
Noctowl was by far the weakest of all the bird Pokemon he had. Staravia is going to evolve into a big powerhouse Staraptor.

RocketMeowth
03-17-2009, 11:30 PM
I'm so thrilled that everyone agrees with the ownage that Pidgeot brought in the show. No bird Pokemon Ash gets shall ever top it of its number one super power spot. Not even Staraptor. xD

But sadly, I must also agree that our hugable Noctowl was the weaker of the four. It never really did much. The only truly powerhouse thing it did was help pull a plane through dense fog. Other than that it never showed much power.

But then again I'm not sure Noctowl was meant for strength. To me it seemed like the more pacifistic Pokemon out of all of Ash's group. It never got into conflicts with the other pokemon, and it always had a calm nature. I could be wrong though. lol

=^^= Nya

Grassy_Aggron
03-17-2009, 11:57 PM
I have to say, Noctowl is the weakest. Sadly, good looks can't do much for you in the show...Unless in a contest. Even then there is battling, however.

Hmmm....I didn't see much of Pidgeot, but Pidgeotto was awesome. I can't remember a lot of those episodes...

So, Swellow takes the top spot. He resists electricity, after all, and shatters defenses. Staravia, we will have to see.

Just my opinion, though ;D

RocketMeowth
03-18-2009, 12:02 AM
I have to say, Noctowl is the weakest. Sadly, good looks can't do much for you in the show...Unless in a contest. Even then there is battling, however.

Hmmm....I didn't see much of Pidgeot, but Pidgeotto was awesome. I can't remember a lot of those episodes...

So, Swellow takes the top spot. He resists electricity, after all, and shatters defenses. Staravia, we will have to see.

Just my opinion, though ;D
lol. Pidgeot doesn't need to resist electricity. He's uber enough on his own. xD

=^^= Nya

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
03-18-2009, 12:38 AM
I'm so thrilled that everyone agrees with the ownage that Pidgeot brought in the show. No bird Pokemon Ash gets shall ever top it of its number one super power spot. Not even Staraptor. xD

Has Ash even unlocked its full power yet? :X

So, Swellow takes the top spot. He resists electricity, after all, and shatters defenses. Staravia, we will have to see.

Just my opinion, though ;D

Yeah. Electricity resistance isn't what you see in many birds.

Saravia seems to be about equal to Pidgeot.

lol. Pidgeot doesn't need to resist electricity. He's uber enough on his own. xD

=^^= Nya

Prove it. >:9

Assaundrell Yumerai
03-19-2009, 08:36 AM
I can't name one, because all of his bird Pokemons has it's own abilities(^^)

riolu42
03-20-2009, 03:22 PM
I can't name one, because all of his bird Pokemons has it's own abilities(^^)
Assaundrell has a good point.

While we fight for the top (Mainly between Staraptor and Pidgeot), we never know that all of them are different in many ways.

Noctowl defeated a Gengar where Staraptor would probably fail, however, Staraptor, I saw in a picture, was killing Paul's honchkrow, where Noctowl would fail.

Ah Beng I the Pikabeng
03-20-2009, 11:48 PM
Assaundrell has a good point.

While we fight for the top (Mainly between Staraptor and Pidgeot), we never know that all of them are different in many ways.

Noctowl defeated a Gengar where Staraptor would probably fail, however, Staraptor, I saw in a picture, was killing Paul's honchkrow, where Noctowl would fail.

Nope, the Honchkrow was still alive.

But yeah, I guess he does have a point.

Then again, I guess whoever created this thread was talking about the one who is the best overall...

kinghoo
03-21-2009, 06:54 AM
To be honest, Pidgeot hasn't proved her strength yet. The Only battle it has is with Fearow! But as a Pidgeotto it was awesome, although it wasn't used in battles that much when bulbasaur, charmander and squirtle came. Poor pidgeotto! Stupid Ash for not fulfilling his promised to this Bird!! :dazed:

As for Staravia, i mean STARPTOR!!, now that it evolved! Im very sure it'l become Ash's Powerhouse in Sinnoh... Although i would say that almost all of his current team are strong.. STARPOR will sure to shine. I just noticed, Ash's Starptor is not that big as Pidgeot and the Staraptor shown in the rioulo episode.:wink:

Swellow for sure is strong! its Electricity resistance made this one cool! and it'd proved it self having a numerous wins in Hoenn Region... So i'd say this Bird Rocks! the only thing that differs this to ash's other bird is that it's charm is not that attractive, making it the less fame among kids.:neutral:

Id stick to my first Post. Noctowl is the weakest. It might a phychic type pokemon and a shiny one. but it didnt shine during Johto. It might defeat gengar! but thats it. Its didnt contribute much in Ash's Johto team. Well I would say aswell that Ash's Johto Team is his weakest TEAM of All. maybe because most his pokemon didnt evolve. Only Chikorita made it to evolved to Bayleaf! Remeber that in the silver conference Ash needed to call for her kanto pokemon the achieve his spot there! Thanks to charizard!:surp:

Soda
03-21-2009, 07:10 AM
Noctowl is the weakest. Why do you think they gave it Hypnosis? Because it can't do much else. :boohoo:

Swellow is the strongest until Staraptor comes.

Operative
03-21-2009, 06:00 PM
Pidgeot > Swellow > Noctowl > Staravia