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The-Sinnoh-Champ
09-21-2008, 07:53 PM
Hi there, some of you may know me from Pokébeach Forums. I was looking for a new forum to join, and this seemed like a good choice. Anyways, onto the team:

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Yanmega @ Focus Sash
Modest
Speed Boost
EV spread: 6 / 0 / 0 / 252 / 0 / 252
Bug Buzz
Protect
Air Slash
Hidden Power [Ground]
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Heatran @ Choice Scarf
Modest
Flash Fire
EV spread: 6 / 0 / 0 / 252 / 0 / 252
Fire Blast
Explosion
Earth Power
Dragon Pulse
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Electivire @ Expert Belt
Adamant
Motor Drive
EV spread: 6 / 252 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 252
Ice Punch
ThunderPunch
Cross Chop
Earthquake
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Mamoswine @ Lum Berry
Jolly
Snow Cloak
EV spread: 6 / 252 / 0 / 0 / 0 / 252
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Ice Shard
Substitute
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Roserade @ Choice Scarf
Naive
Natural Cure
EV spread: 24 / 0 / 0 / 252 / 0 / 232
Leaf Storm
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power [Ice]
Sludge Bomb
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Cresselia @ Leftovers
Calm
EV spread: 200 / 0 / 16 / 40 / 252 / 0
Reflect
Psychic
Ice Beam
Moonlight

Credit to www.arkeis.com and bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net for the images.

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Vlad The Impaler
09-21-2008, 07:58 PM
Why does your Electivire have 252 Sp. Attack EVs?

The-Sinnoh-Champ
09-21-2008, 08:03 PM
Whoops. My fault xD

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Master Aqua
09-21-2008, 08:11 PM
You should switch glicoror for fort as it draws fire attacks for heatran to revice and as rappid spiner to protect yamega from stealth rock and heatran from spikes in paticular.

The-Sinnoh-Champ
09-22-2008, 07:06 PM
You should switch glicoror for fort as it draws fire attacks for heatran to revice and as rappid spiner to protect yamega from stealth rock and heatran from spikes in paticular.
Changed the team to slightly more offensive base - added ScarfRade.

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Master Aqua
09-22-2008, 07:32 PM
Changed the team to slightly more offensive base - added ScarfRade.

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I still say you need that rappid spinner to protect hetran and yamega.

Crazed One
09-22-2008, 09:00 PM
I still say you need that rapid spinner to protect hetran and yamega.

How would that protect Heatran, and anyways, offensive teams don't need a spinner, and Yanmega usually doesn't last past the first few turns, so don't worry about him. This is the preffered method of posting EV spreads;

252 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 6 Hp <--- Thats the format.

You should also list the ability under the format if they have more than one. For Yanmega, use Speed Boost, Focus Sash, and Hypnosis over Air Slash. Timid on Heatran, along with HP Ice over Dragon Pulse, and Stealth rock over Explosion. For Electivire run Cross Chop over EQ. Mamo is nice, use snow cloak, for Roserade, make it Timid, put all HP Evs in Spd, and take out Sludge Bomb, for it has no coverage basicly, and the Grass type, Ice already covers. In its place put Sleep Powder, and use Leaf Storm over Energy Ball. Natural Cure for ability. As far as Cress dump Psycho Shift and Psychic for Charge Beam, and Calm Mind. Yay.

Master Aqua
09-22-2008, 09:03 PM
How would that protect Heatran, and anyways, offensive teams don't need a spinner, and Yanmega usually doesn't last past the first few turns, so don't worry about him. This is the preffered method of posting EV spreads;

252 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 6 Hp <--- Thats the format.

You should also list the ability under the format if they have more than one. For Yanmega, use Speed Boost, Focus Sash, and Hypnosis over Air Slash. Timid on Heatran, along with HP Ice over Dragon Pulse, and Stealth rock over Explosion. For Electivire run Cross Chop over EQ. Mamo is nice, use snow cloak, for Roserade, make it Timid, put all HP Evs in Spd, and take out Sludge Bomb, for it has no coverage basicly, and the Grass type, Ice already covers. In its place put Sleep Powder, and use Leaf Storm over Energy Ball. Natural Cure for ability. As far as Cress dump Psycho Shift and Psychic for Charge Beam, and Calm Mind. Yay.

Itprotects him fromspikes and primarly attack teams are raped by deoxys S,i'd be cautious is that is what you are aming for TSC.

Crazed One
09-22-2008, 09:07 PM
Well, Spikes is never used any more to be frank with you, and Attack teams aren't killed by him, they have counters. Like Yanmega there, or Cresselia.

The-Sinnoh-Champ
09-23-2008, 03:16 PM
Well, Spikes is never used any more to be frank with you, and Attack teams aren't killed by him, they have counters. Like Yanmega there, or Cresselia.
Yanmega: I prefer Air Slash > Hypnosis IMO. I will however use Focus Sash.

Heatran: Modest > Timid as it has a Choice scarf, so it isn't needed. I also really like this moveset, so no.

Electivire: EQ > Cross Chop because i already have Brick Break and replaced CC in the first place because it missed too many times :F

Mamoswine: n/a

Roserade: Thinking of replacing Sludge Bomb for Extrasensory... Just to hurt Nape and Champ. Leaf Storm added. Modest > Timid as again, i have Choice Scarf.

Cresselia: Psycho shift works wonders. I get poisoned or burnt (which is normally the case) and i just Psycho Shift - make them suffer too. Psychic > Charge Beam, as CB is really weak and when i get the boost, before long i've switched out anyway. I also have a Nape weakness, so this helps.

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Crazed One
09-23-2008, 09:12 PM
Yanmega: I prefer Air Slash > Hypnosis IMO. I will however use Focus Sash.

Heatran: Modest > Timid as it has a Choice scarf, so it isn't needed. I also really like this moveset, so no.

Electivire: EQ > Cross Chop because i already have Brick Break and replaced CC in the first place because it missed too many times :F

Mamoswine: n/a

Roserade: Thinking of replacing Sludge Bomb for Extrasensory... Just to hurt Nape and Champ. Leaf Storm added. Modest > Timid as again, i have Choice Scarf.

Cresselia: Psycho shift works wonders. I get poisoned or burnt (which is normally the case) and i just Psycho Shift - make them suffer too. Psychic > Charge Beam, as CB is really weak and when i get the boost, before long i've switched out anyway. I also have a Nape weakness, so this helps.

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Hehe, I meant Cross Chop over BB, sorry.

Timid is the way of the metagame. Want to be outpsed, fine. For Yanmega Hypnosis is way more important that slash.Yanmega is walled and killed to easily otherwise. Cress is a wall, and thats why it needs CB. Heatran with TIMID handles nape just fine anyways.

shedinjask
09-23-2008, 11:00 PM
You don't really need a spinner if you're leading with Yanmega. Sub + Life Orb is going to wear Mamoswine down so hard. Replace Sub with Superpower, and maybe LO with CB. Psycho Shift is kind of useless on Cressy without Burn Orb or Restalk, replace it with TWave or Reflect. Use Cross Chop >> Brick Break on Vire.

The-Sinnoh-Champ
09-24-2008, 05:34 PM
Edited.

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Crazed One
09-24-2008, 08:50 PM
With no choice Specs, which is ancient now, Heatran needs HP Ice to OHKO the big Dragons, it should also run timid.

EDIT: HOLY NO NO! Dump Lum Berry on Mamoswine, he is already immune to TW, give him a CB.

Vincent_Valentine_4
09-24-2008, 11:05 PM
Leftovers or liechi berry works good with mamoswine but I do hasty or naive Heatran so explosion has a nice kick and a non scarf variant could suprise a foe seems how so many use choice scarf. No hypnosis on Yanmega it has horrible accuracy it has a good move set so leave it.

Lucky 1276
09-25-2008, 11:56 PM
I'd really like you to consider hidden power fire over ice so you can hit steels.(On roserade)