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Black Label
10-30-2008, 12:19 AM
Ok, here is my team, I need help...

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba282.png
Gardevoir
EVs:252 Sp Attack 252 Sp Def 6 Speed
Nature:Relaxed
Item:Wide Lens
Moves:
Psychic
Magical Leaf
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Comment:
I know, replace Magical Leaf with thunderbolt etc. I'm working on that. With 90% Accuracy with Hypnosis, then Dream Eat. :D Psychic for STAB basically
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba482.png
EVS:252 Sp Attack 252 Speed 6 Sp Def
Nature:Timid
Item:Focus Sash
Moves:
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Nasty Plot
Comment:
An average Azelf. Nasty Plot first turn, survive, outspeed, KO. Nice coverage
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba392.png
EVS:252 Attack 252 Sp. Attack 6 Speed
Nature:Gentle
Item:Flame Plate/Varys
Moves:
Flamethrower
Calm Mind
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Comment:
Here we go, my main pokemon. He was my starter, so get off me about it not knowing Nasy Plot. It owns ANYTHING. Calm Mind, meh, but it helps as it gives a Sp.Def boost also.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba466.png
EV's:252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Def
Nature:Quirky
Item:Leftovers/Also Varys
Moves:
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Fire Punch
Cross Chop
Comment:
Another main mon. I love his moveset, as almost no one expects it. (No, really) Outspeeds, usually KO's. BTW, sorry if you can't read, just highlight.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba376.png
EVs': 252 Attack 252 Defence 6 HP
Nature:Adament
Item:Expert Belt
Moves:
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Agility
Explosion
Comment:
Also shiny. :D Anyway, yeah, an Agilitymoss. Agility's, then sweeps. Not much to say..
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba121.png
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Nature:Timid
Item:Life Orb
Moves:
Surf
Ice Beam
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Comment:
A good late gamer, comes in when everyone is weak, when he is full of energy and sweepiness. Good coverage
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Sooo, rate my team!

Verystrait42
10-30-2008, 12:22 AM
I suggest more pokemon. Maybe 2 more.

staraptor999
10-30-2008, 12:24 AM
Ok, here is my team, I need help...

[CENTER]http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba282.png
Gardevoir
EVs:252 Sp Attack 152 Sp Def 106 Speed
Item:Wide Lens
Moves:Psychic
Magical Leaf/Calm Mind
Hypnosis
Thunderbolt
Comment:
I know, replace Magical Leaf with thunderbolt etc. I'm working on that. With 90% Accuracy with Hypnosis, then Dream Eat. :D Psychic for STAB basically
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77% acuricy someone correct me if i'm wrong. I wouldn't say DE is best for her. You sleep then Calm mind, thas my set up.

Pires Reach
10-30-2008, 12:24 AM
If this is a "RMT" why is there only one pokemon? Might as well post your whole team.

Black Label
10-30-2008, 12:32 AM
Sorry, sorry! :oops: I wa sjust seeing if I did it right. Now it is complete.

Dark Turtwig
10-30-2008, 01:00 AM
It would help a lot to add Natures. And on Infernape, Life Orb is best. No calm mind, he has such poor defenses, you can't afford to waste a turn. And as to replace calm mind with, replace with Hidden Power Ice.

Black Label
10-30-2008, 01:03 AM
It would help a lot to add Natures. And on Infernape, Life Orb is best. No calm mind, he has such poor defenses, you can't afford to waste a turn. And as to replace calm mind with, replace with Hidden Power Ice.

Really? It helps that much?

Anyway, I don't have a HP TM, and , I don't want to risk having it some other type. Anyway, I usually Calm Mind on Staller's or when they are asleep. It helped me a lot.

Thanks for the tips!

Verystrait42
10-30-2008, 01:21 AM
HP Ice is a must have on Infernape. also, i love how you put "if you cant read just highlight" in the text that you have to highlight to read :)

Black Label
10-30-2008, 01:26 AM
That was a joke. xD

Ok, I could try....thanks for the tip!

Iceraver101
10-30-2008, 01:35 AM
Ok, here is my team, I need help...

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba282.png
Gardevoir
EVs:252 Sp Attack 252 Sp Def 6 Speed
Nature:Relaxed
Item:Wide Lens
Moves:
Psychic
Magical Leaf
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Comment:
I know, replace Magical Leaf with thunderbolt etc. I'm working on that. With 90% Accuracy with Hypnosis, then Dream Eat. :D Psychic for STAB basically
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba482.png
EVS:252 Sp Attack 252 Speed 6 Sp Def
Nature:Timid
Item:Focus Sash
Moves:
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Nasty Plot
Comment:
An average Azelf. Nasty Plot first turn, survive, outspeed, KO. Nice coverage
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba392.png
EVS:252 Attack 252 Sp. Attack 6 Speed
Nature:Gentle
Item:Flame Plate/Varys
Moves:
Flamethrower
Calm Mind
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Comment:
Here we go, my main pokemon. He was my starter, so get off me about it not knowing Nasy Plot. It owns ANYTHING. Calm Mind, meh, but it helps as it gives a Sp.Def boost also.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba466.png
EV's:252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Def
Nature:Quirky
Item:Leftovers/Also Varys
Moves:
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Fire Punch
Cross Chop
Comment:
Another main mon. I love his moveset, as almost no one expects it. (No, really) Outspeeds, usually KO's. BTW, sorry if you can't read, just highlight.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba376.png
EVs': 252 Attack 252 Defence 6 HP
Nature:Adament
Item:Expert Belt
Moves:
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Agility
Explosion
Comment:
Also shiny. :D Anyway, yeah, an Agilitymoss. Agility's, then sweeps. Not much to say..
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba121.png
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Nature:Timid
Item:Life Orb
Moves:
Surf
Ice Beam
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Comment:
A good late gamer, comes in when everyone is weak, when he is full of energy and sweepiness. Good coverage
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Sooo, rate my team!

Alright lets see what I can do here.

Gardevoir
EVs:252 Sp Attack 252 Sp Def 6 Speed
Nature:Relaxed
Item:Wide Lens
Moves:
Psychic
Magical Leaf
Hypnosis
Dream Eater

I would say take out dream eater and magical leaf both aren't all that helpful. The chance a mon will stay in on the turn after it falls asleep is around 20%. Put in other moves instead maybe another status or more sp.attacks.

EVS:252 Sp Attack 252 Speed 6 Sp Def
Nature:Timid
Item:Focus Sash
Moves:
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Nasty Plot
Comment:
An average Azelf. Nasty Plot first turn, survive, outspeed, KO. Nice coverage
[COLOR="black"]Overall nice. Not much to change on this mon.

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EVS:252 Attack 252 Sp. Attack 6 Speed
Nature:Gentle
Item:Flame Plate/Varys
Moves:
Flamethrower
Calm Mind
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Comment:
Here we go, my main pokemon. He was my starter, so get off me about it not knowing Nasy Plot. It owns ANYTHING. Calm Mind, meh, but it helps as it gives a Sp.Def boost also.
[COLOR="black"]Take out calm mind right now... That is a waste of a turn for infernappe. Put in a hidden power anything hp that you feel is necessary. Also instead of a flame plate give him life orb. Life orb helps ko things. Very handy.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba466.png
EV's:252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Def
Nature:Quirky
Item:Leftovers/Also Varys
Moves:
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Fire Punch
Cross Chop
Comment:
Another main mon. I love his moveset, as almost no one expects it. (No, really) Outspeeds, usually KO's. BTW, sorry if you can't read, just highlight.
[COLOR="black"]Fire punch is not really needed replace it with e-q or something like that. also on the item. You can give him a life orb or expert belt as well. Just throwing the items you can use out there.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba376.png
EVs': 252 Attack 252 Defence 6 HP
Nature:Adament
Item:Expert Belt
Moves:
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Agility
Explosion
Comment:
Also shiny. :D Anyway, yeah, an Agilitymoss. Agility's, then sweeps. Not much to say..
[COLOR="black"]I personally love agiligross. Not much to change here. Except maybe give him a berry that reduces ground attacks. That way he can survive a hit setting you up for agility.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba121.png
EVs: 252 Sp.Attack 252 Speed 6 HP
Nature:Timid
Item:Life Orb
Moves:
Surf
Ice Beam
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Comment:
A good late gamer, comes in when everyone is weak, when he is full of energy and sweepiness. Good coverage
[COLOR="black"]ehhh all I can say is life orb is iffy. everything else about starmie is alright.

One last piece of adivce. Get in more walls. Your team is mostly comprised of sweepers. If the other team is a stall team. You will be royally f*****

Black Label
10-30-2008, 02:02 AM
HOLY CRAP! That helped a lot! I'm planning to get a staller, and maybe a blissey soon, but, yeah.

I agree on almost everything. Except fire Punch on Electivire. I have used it soooo many times after i put him in my team. xD

shucklerules
11-08-2008, 11:32 PM
Ghost and Ground hit your entire team supereffective.

Black Label
11-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Ghost and Ground hit your entire team supereffective.

I already know that. I switched out some crappy pokemon, Like Gardevoir. I just can't find the right pokemon for me. Infernape fits my style, but, yeah. I can't rely on only him. :/

Viva la Gofre
11-09-2008, 01:31 PM
Ok, here is my team, I need help...

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmba/dpmba282.png
Gardevoir
EV: 252HP/48SpAtt/176SpDef/32Spd or 252HP/252SpDef/6SpAtt (<<Easier to keep track of)
Nature: Modest
Item:Wide Lens
Moves:
Psychic
Will-O-Wisp
Hypnosis/Wish
Focus Blast/Shadow Ball/Thunderbolt
Comment:
I know, replace Magical Leaf with thunderbolt etc. I'm working on that. With 90% Accuracy with Hypnosis, then Dream Eat. :D Psychic for STAB basically
Actually it's 77% acc with hypnosis, no idea where you go 90 from. Bad EV spread, gardevoir is a defensive pokemon and needs an appropriate moveset. Her HP is poor, she needs it maxed if she plans on surviving tackles. Dream eater is moot, it has poor coverage and is useless when the opponent switches out for their counter.
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EVS:252 Sp Attack220Spd/36HP
Nature:Timid
Item:Life Orb/Expert Belt
Moves:
Psychic
Grass Knot/HP Fight
Flamethrower
Nasty Plot
Comment:
An average Azelf. Nasty Plot first turn, survive, outspeed, KO. Nice coverage
When people see azelf, people dive for their special wall. What's the top special wall? Blissey. What does blissey do? Break subs with mid-strength seismic tosses. Likewiseazelf has pretty adequate defences for a sweeper, odds are any weak attack coming from a wall will fail to KO and you won't be using your sash anyway. Azelf is fast, switch in on an EQ, nasty plot as they switch for the counter and then proceed to sweep. Once the NP is up, faster sweepers (How are generally frail) will have extreme problems switching in. EV spread allows you to survive a weavile's pursuit (Provided you don't switch out) and OHKO with flamethrower/HP fight, aswell as hitting 352 speed- nothing much is faster than that.
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EVS:24Att/252/232Spd
Nature:Naive
Item:LIfe Orb
Moves:
Flamethrower
Nasty Plot
Grass Knot
Close Combat
Comment:
Here we go, my main pokemon. He was my starter, so get off me about it not knowing Nasy Plot. It owns ANYTHING. Calm Mind, meh, but it helps as it gives a Sp.Def boost also.
If you want to be competetive, you have to stop being sentimental. Gental is a terrible nature for infernape, and the SpDef boost achieves nothing on a frail sweeper. Bad EV spread, infernape's main niché is that it can be a fast mixed sweeper, otherwise pokes like lucaron completely outclass it. That EV spread allows infernape to do what it does best- Wall break. 24Att EVs means close combat will OHKO blissey, leaving him free to special-sweep.
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EV's:252 Attack 252 Speed 6 Def
Nature:Adamant
Item:Expert Belt
Moves:
Thunder Punch
Ice Punch
Earthquake
Cross Chop
Comment:
Another main mon. I love his moveset, as almost no one expects it. (No, really) Outspeeds, usually KO's. BTW, sorry if you can't read, just highlight.
Neutral natures suck, adamant please. Earthquake over fire punch, which doesn't really add anything and EQ is stronger. This set hits a lot of stuff for SE damage, expert belt is a good option for item.
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EVs': 252 Attack/152HP/104Spd
Nature:Adament
Item:Life Orb/Leftovers
Moves:
Meteor Mash
Earthquake
Agility
Explosion/Thunderpunch
Comment:
Also shiny. :D Anyway, yeah, an Agilitymoss. Agility's, then sweeps. Not much to say..
Metagross doesn't have the coverage to make expert belt worth taking. Also needs a better EV spread too. Thunderpunch so Gyara doesn't laugh and Dragon Dance in your face.
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EVs: 132Sp.Attack 216 Speed 160 HP
Nature:Timid
Item:Leftovers
Moves:
Surf
Ice Beam/Thunderbolt
Rapid Spin
Recover
Comment:
A good late gamer, comes in when everyone is weak, when he is full of energy and sweepiness. Good coverage
Starmie spins better than it sweeps, and you have Azelf for a special sweeper anyway.
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Sooo, rate my team!

Comments in bold. EV spreads in particular need changing, and you don't have any real walls. Replace either metagross or electivire with a physical wall (I'd scrap vire, he's a sucky poke anyway.) and either bring in a special wall over gardevoir or use the second EV spread with wish over hypnosis.

Mrs Officer
11-10-2008, 02:26 AM
Honestly the Calm Mind isn't a True Waste, It just Doesn't Maxamize his Abilitys, It's like you didn't want to use Nasty Plot Because it says it on Smogon or some other site, Nasty plot Brings his SPA up to a higher amount, and will let it OHKO alot more if you give it the orb tommarow.

Another thing is...You Have no Physical Sweeper At all, or any type of Stealth Rock Damage that will let The Azelf Tor the Infernape Truely be able to Sweep and OHKO most pokemon out there.

Another thing is Knot over Thunderbolt because without it, a dark type will wall you.


If somebody already said it give you these suggestions kudos to them, i'm new and confused, lol.

I also want you to change your lead, but since Gard. is your only wall you really can't afford to move it.

Viva la Gofre
11-10-2008, 07:48 AM
Honestly the Calm Mind isn't a True Waste, It just Doesn't Maxamize his Abilitys,

He needs to rebreed anyway due to the abysmal nature it currently has. And there are a lot of pokes that can CM better than infernape, nasty plot is what makes it so lethal at being a wall breaker.

It's like you didn't want to use Nasty Plot Because it says it on Smogon or some other site, Nasty plot Brings his SPA up to a higher amount, and will let it OHKO alot more if you give it the orb tommarow.

Another thing is...You Have no Physical Sweeper At all,

Agiligross/Electivire=Physical sweepers :S

or any type of Stealth Rock Damage that will let The Azelf Tor the Infernape Truely be able to Sweep and OHKO most pokemon out there.

Not every team uses entry hazards, Sash users are going to have to come in on an attack from either of them anyway.

Another thing is Knot over Thunderbolt because without it, a dark type will wall you.

Who is this in reference to?

If somebody already said it give you these suggestions kudos to them, i'm new and confused, lol.

Helps if you read the post first then...

I also want you to change your lead, but since Gard. is your only wall you really can't afford to move it.

Gardevoir isn't a wall at all until he makes the changes I detailed.

Ummm, yeah.

-Smoo-
11-10-2008, 02:49 PM
Surely a Garchomp would give you trouble? Infernape would go, Electivire would go.... Plus if it used outrage thats guinna give your team a dent:ermm:

Viva la Gofre
11-10-2008, 09:07 PM
Surely a Garchomp would give you trouble? Infernape would go, Electivire would go.... Plus if it used outrage thats guinna give your team a dent:ermm:
Garchomp is uber now, it has been for about a month :|

-Holland-
11-11-2008, 06:18 AM
Surely a Garchomp would give you trouble? Infernape would go, Electivire would go.... Plus if it used outrage thats guinna give your team a dent:ermm:

Yeah, he was kind of banned because he's that much of a problem.

-Smoo-
11-11-2008, 02:30 PM
I have been away for too long:sad:

Ill have to replace it now...

Black Label
11-13-2008, 12:19 AM
As I said, get off me about it not knowing Nasty Plot. I calm mind when I predict a switch. It helps more than you guys think. I'm not going up against the best battlers in the world.

But yeah, thanks for the suggestions. BTW, Azelf is pretty much booted out of my team. I replaced it with new pokes that i will add later.

-Holland-
11-13-2008, 01:10 AM
As I said, get off me about it not knowing Nasty Plot. I calm mind when I predict a switch. It helps more than you guys think. I'm not going up against the best battlers in the world.

But yeah, thanks for the suggestions. BTW, Azelf is pretty much booted out of my team. I replaced it with new pokes that i will add later.

Well, you can also Nasty Plot when you predict a switch. We're really just recommending it because it's more efficient. A fast physical attacker can still manhandle Infernape even if he does manage Calm Mind. You might as well bolster his best and probably only asset in the metagame: sheer offense.

Black Label
11-13-2008, 01:13 AM
If I go all offence, what shall I do for a fire move? Flare Blitz is a no no, since recoil can hurt.

Fake Death/Ryan Nissan said he would give me a mix ape soon.