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Dark Turtwig
12-31-2008, 06:53 PM
Okay, I have a team I made yesterday here. It's got some OU pokes, but I really wanted to use a couple UU pokes at least, and my favorites too. Here we go. Team at a glance:
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Banette@ Choice Scarf (GimmeAHug)
Jolly Nature
Insomnia
EV: 252 HP / 196 Atk / 60 Def
Trick
Will-O-Wisp
Thunder Wave
Sucker Punch
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Lucario@ Life Orb (fullmetal)
Adamant Nature
Inner Focus
EV: 252 Attack / 252 Spe / 6 HP
Crunch
Close Combat
ExtremeSpeed
Swords Dance
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Porygon2@ Leftovers (Quack!)
Bold Nature
Trace
EV: 252 HP / 120 Defense / 40 SpAtk / 96 SpDef
Thunderbolt
Ice Beam
Recover
Thunder Wave
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Gyarados@ Leftovers (Rawr Bish!)
Impish Nature
Intimidate
EV: 252 HP / 236 Def / 20 SpDef
Rest
Sleep Talk
Stone Edge
Waterfall
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Heatran@ Choice Scarf (I Love You)
Naive Nature
Flash Fire
EV: 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 6 HP
Fire Blast
Explosion
Earth Power
Hidden Power (Ice)
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Forretress@ Leftovers (NoFirePlz)
Impish Nature
Sturdy
EV: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Att
Earthquake
Explosion
Stealth Rock
Rapid Spin
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Comments:

Banette: I really like this. I am beginning to realize that speed really is an issue, so I'm wondering if I should put some Speed EV's on it. It only reaches 273 speed with the choice scarf, which is not enough to outspeed Heracross, PorygonZ, and the like. But what I do is: I trick a scarf on to the opponent such as say a Bronzong. As they obviously will switch out, I T-wave. So usually I am faster, and if I have a good item to Trick, I'll stay in and Trick again. But if not, I'll switch out. I am also wondering if I should pack Taunt on this. (Banette can learn Taunt, right?) Because I just fought a sub-shaymin last night and had nothing to counter it with. As I finally would break it's sub, it would be back at full health from lefties, and sub again. It was excruciating. The EV's on it make it so I KO 0 HP EV 0 Defense EV Gengar with Sucker Punch. It comes in quite handy. You'd be surprised how many people try to Hypnosis on this thing lol.

Lucario: I'm beginning to like this. Believe it or not, I've never used a Physical Lucario before. I find it quite easy to scout a switch and get in a Swords Dance, but speed is also an issue here. I am debating whether to put Jolly nature here, because I am outpsped my Adamant Electivire, and electivire isn't affected my T-wave, obviously. Which is very bad... You get extra points if you know why I named it fullmetal. I was also thinking a Focus Sash on this guy, but he usually comes in Middle-to late game, when entry hazards would already be up. :/

Porygon2: This is by far my favorite UU wall. I want to put Magic Coat on it, but I don't know what to get rid of. It's got the 'BoltBeam' combo, which I love for it's type coverage, and it really helps me in crunches. Thunder Wave is for when Banette is gone, and there are still things I need to outspeed.

Gyarados: I think this is where I REALLY need some improvement. I made this a physical wall, because he has as much defense after Intimidate as a defensive Milotic with Marvel Scale boost. But, this team has no special sponge, so I'm looking at him that way. He's got 95 Base HP, and 100 Base Special Defense, but I dunno. Stone Edge and Waterfall give great type coverage, and I was looking at DD instead of SE, but then Vaporeon walls me.

Heatran: Standard ScarfTran. I would like something else in this spot, because EVERYONE has a Heatran now, and it's never safe to go for a Fire Blast sweep. I am thinking possibly MixApe here, but I'm wide open for suggestions.

Forretress: Super Physical wall Forry here. With 402 defense, this guy is f***ing beastly. He took like 3 DD'd T-tar Earthquakes yesterday. It was awesome. I have Earthquake on here just to counter Tyranitar, and possibly kill Heatran if I can get one off on a switch in. I've tried out so many teams lately on shoddy, and I know that you NEED a rapid spinner. He is also a good canidate for stealth rock.

Things that need fixing:
-I really need a special wall, and I'd like something BL, if possible. Milotic or Suicune may work if I keep Gyarados a phys wall, or maybe Muk. He makes a good special wall. I'm kinda stuck.
-Speed. I'm a bit slow. Especially on Banette. Can those 60 Defense EV's go into speed do you think? Or do I really need that tiny extra bit of bulk?

Verystrait42
12-31-2008, 08:38 PM
Your banette gets wrecked by lead azelf and areo, they just taunt and set up. So I would say yes to more speed.

staraptor999
12-31-2008, 09:10 PM
If you need an awsome special wall hypno will totally work for an UU poke.

Hypno @leftovers
Calm, Insomnia
200 hp, 200 sp atk, 110 def
T-Wave
Seismic Toss
Wish
Psychic/ Light Screen/ Reflect

Viva la Gofre
01-01-2009, 11:37 AM
If you need an awsome special wall hypno will totally work for an UU poke.

Hypno @leftovers
Calm, Insomnia
200 hp, 200 sp atk, 110 def
T-Wave
Seismic Toss
Wish
Psychic/ Light Screen/ Reflect
An awesome special wall with no special defence EVs? Not even blissey can pull that off.

Vlad The Impaler
01-01-2009, 11:53 AM
Personally, I'd change Earthquake on Forretress to Gyro Ball. He can still hit Tyranitar super-effectively, possibly for more damage if T-Tar has got a DD or two up. It can also OHKO Weavile and Aerodactyl. If you do this, you'll need a Relaxed nature though.

staraptor999
01-01-2009, 04:35 PM
If you need an awsome special wall hypno will totally work for an UU poke.

Hypno @leftovers
Calm, Insomnia
200 hp, 200 sp atk, 110 def
T-Wave
Seismic Toss
Wish
Psychic/ Light Screen/ Reflect

Oh, lol I mean 200 evs in sp def not sp atk.

Dark Turtwig
01-01-2009, 09:50 PM
Personally, I'd change Earthquake on Forretress to Gyro Ball. He can still hit Tyranitar super-effectively, possibly for more damage if T-Tar has got a DD or two up. It can also OHKO Weavile and Aerodactyl. If you do this, you'll need a Relaxed nature though.

Thanks, I had thought about this at first, but I need EQ on there for Fires such as Infernape and Heatran. DD Tyranitar is becoming ever less common, (I've been seeing more CB T-tar, and SubPunch T-tar) and I wouldn't let him set up to begin with. I'm also thinking that Taunt/Destiny Bond would be good on Banette. That, or maybe not a trick banette at all. Maybe a Focus Sash/Destiny Bond set.