Originally Posted by Judge Dredd
Im still against both of those sorry..Im not even sure what to do with the Lugia since its always been uber..lol
Lugia has one issue and that it's weak even by ou standards it's weaker than abamasnow and he has great stab that it dosnt matter. But Lugia is bulky we are taking you'd be lucky to 2ko it bulky and that's not including regenerator. It's got a base speed most people would kill for and roost. But I think lugias real issue is unique, most Pokemon only need 510 Eve's to be successful, Lugia wants 5 stats maxed or it won't hit hard, it won't be as physically or specially defensive and it won't be so fast.
Also I find your dragonite comment to be laughable as dragonite has power and bulk in huge numbers and can even boost his speed and can have multiple sets in sun or rain, Lugia isn't as versatile as nite nor as strong and even after a cm it's not that great