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First & Second Generations Discuss the first and second generation games: Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver and Crystal.


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Default Shiny Pokemon FAQ: G/S/C

I’ve been seeing a lot of misconceptions and questions involving shiny Pokemon, and a recent thread inspired me to create this guide so that there would be no need to start new threads about the subject.

The game coding that decides whether or not a Pokemon is shiny changes with the R/S/E and D/P versions, so please keep in mind that this FAQ is exclusively for the G/S/C generation.

-What Defines a Shiny Pokemon

With the release of G/S/C, unique Pokemon began appearing in game play that were a more unusual color than the originals we are used to. For example, a trainer might select a Charmander as his starter and notice that it is gold instead of the usual red. The most obvious shiny in the game is the red Gyarados you must defeat at the Lake of Rage; most see this as an opportunity to acquire an easy shiny rather than an obstacle to overcome in order to continue on their journey.

Each Pokemon comes in one other color unique to its species. A Metapod will not have eight different possible colors it can be when it appears; it will either be the original green, or the shiny brown.

A common question involving shiny Pokemon regards evolution. Because the original set of DVs do not change when the Pokemon evolves, he will still remain shiny in each stage. However, the shiny color of the Pokemon may change to a different unusual color. E.g. A shiny purple Dragonair evolves into a shiny green Dragonite.

Also, if you trade a shiny Pokemon back to a Red, Blue, or Yellow verson, it will not appear shiny in the first generation because shiny Pokemon were not introduced until the second generation games. However, its 'genes' will still be shiny if you ever end up trading it back to your Gold, Silver, or Crystal version.

Here is a complete list of Pokemon in their natural color.
And here is the same list, in the shiny color.
(Both Gold version sprites)

-Recognition

The moment you begin a battle with a shiny Pokemon, the screen will briefly flash black and circle of stars will swirl around it for a moment or two. There should also be repetitive bell-like sounds once the shiny is focused on-screen. Pretty much, it will just look like this.

Not all Pokemon will be as obvious to tell that they are shiny. For example, a shiny Abra is little different than a regular Abra, as it is only a slightly lighter shade; a shiny Pikachu is just a few tints darker than a regular Pikachu.


Normal Abra | Shiny Abra

Another way to tell that you have a shiny in your party is to check its stats; in the upper right hand corner of the screen will be three tiny plus signs next to its gender.

-Coding

In Gold, Silver, and Crystal, the shinyness of a Pokemon is determined solely by its DVs. For those of you that do not know what DVs are, I’m going to briefly explain them now. If you are familiar with DVs, feel free to skip this part.

What are DVs?


The acronym stands for Deter Values, which are the same thing as IVs (Individual Values). These are basically Pokemon genes that decide not only the Pokemon’s stats, but their gender and whether or not the Pokemon will appear shiny. However, you can’t see these like regular stats, the only way to find out what DVs your Pokemon has would be to calculate them yourself. However, I’m not going to go much into that as it has little relevance.

DVs can range from 0 to 15; 0 being the lowest and 15 the highest. So in total there are 16 different DV possibilities.

There are six DVs in every Pokemon; one for each of the following stats: Speed, Attack, Defense, Special, and HP. The Special (Special Attack and Special Defense) will have the same DV regardless of whether the Pokemon’s actual Special Attack and Special Defense are identical. The DV just determines how far off each stat is from its maximum.

For example, a level 100 Pokemon with an Attack DV of 15 will have 30 more attack points than another Pokemon of the same species with an Attack DV of 0.

Okay. I’m sure you’re wondering how this relates to shiny Pokemon, so let’s get back on subject.

-The DVs that Determine a Shiny

In G/S/C, shiny Pokemon are those that have this particular set of DVs:

Speed- 10

Attack- 10

Defense- 10

Attack- 2, 3, 6, 7, 10, 11, 14 or 15

HP- 0 or 8, as it is determined by the other DVs

Some consider shiny Pokemon to be weaker, because they can never achieve maximum stats, but considering the fact that they could possibly get a DV of 15 for Attack, their HP would become 8, and so that particular shiny Pokemon would be above average. But of course, the usefulness of the set would depend on the Pokemon itself.

However, shiny Pokemon are not stronger or weaker Pokemon in general; they fall somewhat on the average line with stats, which would make the only thing extraordinary about them their color. Most people collect shiny Pokemon simply because they are shiny, not because they have anything special about their stats.

-Odds of Encounter

Considering that DVs are determined the moment you encounter the Pokemon for the first time, the chances of that particular Pokemon being a shiny are very slim.

To break it down in technical terms, each DV has to be a certain number for a Pokemon to be shiny. So for the Speed DV to be 10, it will have a 1 in 16 chance of being that number (as there are 16 DV possibilities in total). This is the same for the Defense, and Special DVs. The Attack DV has 8 different options for a shiny DV, so this gives you an 8 in 16 (or 1 in 2) chance of getting one of the designated numbers. The HP DV is determined by the others, so it won’t matter in calculating. So for each of these multiplied: 1 * 16 * 16 * 16 * 2 = a 1 in 8192 chance of you encountering a shiny Pokemon the moment it appears.

There are a few exceptions to where the odds are reduced for a shiny encounter.

In Crystal version, the first time you visit the Goldenrod Day Care, you will be given the “Odd Egg”. It will hatch into Pichu, Cleffa, Igglybuff, Elekid, Magby, Smoochum, or Tyrogue. The extra bonus you get with this egg is that it has strong chance of being shiny once it hatches, so save your game right before you enter the building (and it is very important that you do not save your game again until it hatches, otherwise you will lose the opportunity). The Pokemon and its ‘shinyness’ will be determined as soon as you receive it.

The most commonly known shiny Pokemon in the second generation games is the red Gyarados that resides in the Lake of Rage. You are guaranteed an encounter with this Pokemon, however, since everyone can get him, the fact that he is shiny is not quite as special as the other species.

Also, there is the Ditto glitch. (You need a Red, Blue, or Yellow version available in order to perform this)
  • First you need to obtain a shiny Pokemon that is capable of learning the move Mimic. You’re best choice would be the red Gyarados as he’s easiest to acquire.
  • Next, you need to delete all of his moves, except for one, which needs to be non-damaging; like Leer. (Also make sure that the move exists in the first generation games)
  • Trade the shiny back to your R/B/Y version (and don’t worry, he will be shiny again as soon as you trade him back to G/S/C).
  • Teach it Mimic (TM 31)
  • Make sure you have plenty of Poke/Great/Ultra (preferably) Balls with you, or you could use the Master Ball; though I wouldn’t waste it.
  • Now you are ready to find yourself a Ditto. Once you’ve encountered one, have your shiny use Mimic to learn Transform. When Ditto uses Transform again (and it is very important that you make sure Ditto uses Transform twice), go ahead and capture it.
  • Heal your new Ditto at the Poke Center, and then trade it back to your G/S/C version.
The Ditto will be shiny, as it had permanently copied your original shiny Pokemon’s genes.

There are a lot of myths that shiny Pokemon will appear in certain locations, or at certain times of the day, but unfortunately they are not true. It is completely random to whether you will find a shiny in the wild as stated previously: you have a 1 in 8192 chance.

That covers everything that comes to mind right now; I would like to keep adding more information to this. ^^;
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