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Old 05-14-2008, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Poké Radar Shiny Pokémon Hunting. The GOOD way. AKA my way.

I Need help with this it wount work with me and can u see if their is a way for budu...... (i Think that is its name)
i keep getting cut off at like 5!........ i need help with this....
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Old 06-12-2008, 01:59 AM
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This has been the most helpful guide I've found since Pokeradar chaining was discovered...

And also the one that causes me the most sadness.

From what I'm inferring in the first post, the sparkles that flash on patches of grass when you come out of battle can be different colors. Is this correct?
If this is so, and this is the method by which to tell what patch to go to, to continue your chain, then I'm stuck and outta luck (SOL.)

I have colorblindness issues :(

The highest chain I'd ever gotten was a 22-Roserade at the Trophy garden... which I've not been able to duplicate since, either with swarms or not.
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Old 06-12-2008, 02:41 AM
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i go for easy pokemon. try out with something like a growlithe or bidoof. then work your way up. if you ever see 2 peices of grass that look the same as the one your looking for reset it. run a diff way from the sparkle grass and then run like 100 steps and do it again

my highest chain was 15 with starly. the only shiny i got was a shellos (west) with 11 lol
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:00 AM
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so i was walking to the north part of rt 210 to get a shiny ponyta (which are blue btw and look awesome) and on the way up, in the long grass where u cant use the radar, i find the shiny ponyta. NOT EVEN KIDDING!!! wat r the odds? (1/8192ish)
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Old 06-23-2008, 01:57 AM
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Default Re: Poké Radar Shiny Pokémon Hunting. The GOOD way. AKA my way.

Sparkles?

Is that the key?
I currently hate the 'Radar with an I-don't use-mine passion.

So if I see a sparkle, it hints at something?
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:15 AM
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So, does chaining actually increase shiny chances? I've been wondering that. If there's a FAQ that states this, please link me to it.
yes there is, and if you care, you should look it up.
i do have the formula though.

PLEASE READ FOR ALL OF YOUR MATHMATICAL
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SHINY RATE

i found the formula to find the shiny rate, depending on how far you are in your chain.
dont listen to the people that say "the chance doubles" or "the percentage doesnt go up".
this is a part of the games coding.

formula:

14747-40(n)
P (shiny)= ___________________
2621440 x (41-n)

P = probability

n = chain length
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

the probability of finding a shiny pokemon after a chain of 20 is about 0.253%,
and after 40, its 0.5%. shinys are still hard to find though.
i really hope i can do this. ...i can hardly even get to 20! ...and yet some people can get over 100!! 0__o
any more tips anyone??

(i am going to try your guide...) but i know a starly is gonna break a chain
of bidoof after ten with my luck.

ALSO! more info to know. AFTER 40, STOP CHAINING, AND START TO RESET YOUR POKERADAR!
if you can get up to 40. after 40, the percentage of the shiny rate no longer goes up.
you will notice that in the formula. 41-40 is 1 , times that to 2621440, and it will ofcoarse will stay that number [1x(y)=(y)].
that will be the highest it can go.

if you use the formula, you will notice the decimal is moved. for a chain of 40, your calculator will show 0.0005! so move the decimal back 3 places.
it should say 0.5.
it took me awhile to figure that out.
:p
i am stupid. anyway, i hope that helps you guys. as for me, any more tips?
and why would ur pokemon hold clense tags if you already have repels? :/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
EDIT!:
im taking my break now, but i have SUCCESSFULLY gotten to 40! now if there are always 4 grass patches shaking, most likely, i would only have to use
the pokeradar 50 times, or around the area. i never tried bidoof, actually im on shinx, with my lv.100 raichu, nacho in front, who has the ability static.
i think i finally got the hang of this after 2 days! [goodiegoodie] i hope i can get that shiny. cuz if i do, im naming it Tangy. :)
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
EDIT AGAIN! :)
found five shinys! a shinx, a voltorb, and three pachirisu. :)

now people hunting for voltorb, DONT waste ANY masterball on it the ones you find in swarms. they dont have self-destruct OR explosion yet.
they are too low leveled (around lv.28) to learn them at that point, so just capture them just like any other pokemon. i caught mine with a dusk ball.

~i no longer need help. :D ~
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:37 AM
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This guide will help you chain for an awesome







DA SHINY BIDOOF


If you plan to make a Shiny Pokémon collection, start off with a Shiny Bidoof.

I KNOW, EVERYBODY HATES BIDOOF, BUT LET'S GO GET ONE ANYWAY.

You'll need:

  • Poké Radar
  • PP Restorage
  • A weak Pokémon or one with Super Fang/False Swipe
  • Poké Balls (Luxury if you want to use it and make it adore you)
  • A medium-strong Pokémon with a high-PP offensive move like Quick Attack
  • LOTS OF PATIENCE AND TOLERANCE.
  • Many Max/Super Repels
  • Cleanse Tag

Give the strong Pokémon (its good to make it have Intimidate, like Staraptor or Luxio, the Cleanse Tag. Go into the large patch of grass in Route 202, just above Sandgem Town. Oh! And go to the farthest patch away from you (unless it's Shiny; it ALWAYS is the same Pokémon), but make sure that another patch doesn't leave the screen!

IGNORE THE CHEERFUL SONG AND DON'T LET IT CHANGE YOUR MOOD TO CHEERY SO IT MAKES YOU SKIP ALL OVER THE HOUSE; I ACCIDENTALLY DROPPED MY DS INTO THE TOILET ON A 21-SHINX STREAK BECAUSE OF THE FRIGGIN' SONG. I CAUGHT IT, THANK GOD, BUT ACCIDENTALLY RAN INTO A NORMAL BIDOOF WHEN THERE WAS AN ALTERNATE-COLORED SHINY GRASS. I FLICKED A WRONG BUTTON.

Sympathetic now?

Use the Poké Radar. Try to stick to the non-sparkling grass (not Pokémon, grass) for Bidoof. Go to the farthest patch away from you, but make sure another one

DON'T GET DISTRACTED. YOU MIGHT MISS IT. IF IT WAS ALTERNATE, THEN WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

KILL EVERY GUY YOU SEE. NOT IF HE'S SHINY OF COURSE. GIRLS, TOO.

Do not:

  • Flee
  • Use your Bike
  • Get distracted
  • Be overconfident (you WILL mess up)
  • Get the song to make you giddy
  • Go out of the grassy patch
  • Kill or run from the Shiny Pokémon (duh)
  • Use an area with a corner
  • Take a break when you are looking for a Shiny and you're not in a battle


Oh, and if you need a break, close the Nintendo DS (Lite) in a battle.


Same for all COMMON Pokémon

Okay, now that down, let's move on to something better.






DA SHINY SHINX


A lot like the Bidoof. For a Shinx, you'll need:


  • Poké Radar
  • PP Restorage
  • A weak Pokémon or one with Super Fang/False Swipe
  • Poké Balls (Luxury if you want to use it and make it adore you)
  • A medium-strong Pokémon with Static and a high-PP offensive move like Quick Attack
  • LOTS OF PATIENCE AND TOLERANCE
  • Many Max/Super Repels
  • Cleanse Tag


Okay. We're doin' good.

Put the Static Pokémon in the top of your party and go to the same place over by Sandgem where you caught your Bidoof. Give that Pokémon the Cleanse Tag.

Great! Hunt the same way as you did the Bidoof.

Do not:

  • Flee
  • Use your Bike
  • Get distracted
  • Be overconfident (you WILL mess up)
  • Get the song to make you giddy
  • Go out of the grassy patch
  • Kill or run from the Shiny Pokémon (duh)
  • Use an area with a corner
  • Take a break when you are looking for a Shiny and you're not in a battle


Same for all ELECTRIC COMMON Pokémon







DA SHINY WEEPINBELL




Basically, use the Cleanse Tag, Max Repels, and chain your best. This guy's pretty easy, but I messed up on a 25 chain due to running into a grass on accident while resetting. It's in the Battle Zone on that little island by the Fight Area, in the ocean, left of the Fight Area... THAT PLACE WHERE YOU CATCH TOGEPI.


Please note there is a LOT of stuff to break your chain here.






SWARMS

Go to Prof. Rowan's HOUSE, NOT LAB and talk to the little girl.

See what's swarming today.

Go there.

Same dos/don'ts as Bidoof.

Needs, too.

Same for all RARE Pokémon




Other Stuff:






RESETTING THE RADAR






I made this because the people who read were getting low chains, so I made this part. Okay...


  • If there aren't 4 patches wiggling, or if the farthest away isn't the same color, walk the steps you need
  • If the walking to that any patch, wiggling or not, looks like it will make any patch go off the screen, reset (otherwise the chain will automatically stop)


RESET - Walk the amount of steps the game says to take and press Y (unless the Poke Radar isn't selected, which it should be)
Does it work all the time?
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:46 AM
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Thanks for the guide! But I can only get up to a 14 chain of Bidoofs.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:08 PM
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theres a little more to it than that - Ive read several guides and collected data my self (and got my SAT scores back yesterday... <omg>790 in math </omg>)
anyways...
there are what I call "squares" which are basically, squares that are a certain distance from your player. I denote them as n-squares, where n is their distance from you. While using the poke radar, you only need to care about these:

444444444
433333334
432222234
432111234
4321u1234...........the u in the middle is you, the numbers are part of the n-squares
432111234
432222234
433333334
444444444

I have never seen any patch of grass wiggle outside of the 4-square. Also, If you pay close enough attention, you will notice that only 1 patch of grass wiggles in each n-square up to 4. Sometimes, an n-square wont have a wiggly patch, this happens randomly and when the one the game decided would wiggle was outside of the grass. Thus - your chain will not always break on edges, but there is a possibility that if you are on an edge (especially a corner) all of the wiggly patches will lie outside of the grass, resulting in "the grassy patch remained quiet..." and breaking your chain.


44444xxxx
43333xxxx..........numbers represent grass
43222xx$x..........x's represent non-grass
43211xxxx..........$'s represent wiggly spots
4321uxxxx
xxx$xxxxx
x$xxxxxx$
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx...........The grassy patch remained quiet...

There is no place where there is a guaranteed continuance (?) of your chain, but in the 4-square the chance is reasonable large. If I follow only the 4-square patches and reset when they dont appear, I can reach a 20 chain without much trouble (except when I forget to reapply repels

Also, I have not experimented on whether using only the same kind of patch affects your chances, but I bet it does. Also- I read somewhere that walking into a patch with another patch immediately next to it is bad, but I have AS OF YET FOUND NO EVIDENCE TO CONFIRM THIS.
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Old 06-27-2008, 08:14 PM
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Sparkles?

...

So if I see a sparkle, it hints at something?
Well, ive noticed 4 varieties of grass-
just moving- normal
moving with a little sparkle in it- normal
spasmatically writhing- higher chance of having a rarer pokemon
flashes dramatically 2x but doesnt move- ShInY!!
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Mleh. I don't want to sound noobish, but I am having a hard time following this. Can anyone Help?
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Old 06-28-2008, 04:53 AM
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Mleh. I don't want to sound noobish, but I am having a hard time following this. Can anyone Help?
i had trouble too, but now i can get past 40. :)
you just need some practise. DONT give up, no matter how frustrating it may be
if your chain breaks. if you follow the rules, and start over when your chain breaks,
chances are, one of the times, you will get better. gradually. it may take awhile though.
this requires patience.
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Default Re: Poké Radar Shiny Pokémon Hunting. The GOOD way. AKA my way.

This post in conjunction with this video from youtube ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkeKPlBYYbs ) helped me immensely (as I mentioned in my earlier post on this page)

the line that truly helped a lot was the "make sure you go at least 3 steps and turn once, kind of like an L" (paraphrased).


edit/add: OH OH! and while I'm chaining Baltoy, something else I realized myself while doing my first Starly - you do NOT need to go into every sparkly patch of grass! if there's not four patches or if you can't walk at least 3-4 steps to get to the patch and possibly include a turn then simply walk around the grass so you do NOT go into one of the patches, and after 50 steps reset your Radar :)

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I get up to 68 pokes. Usally mine break at 20, but I am persistant!
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I get up to 68 pokes. Usally mine break at 20, but I am persistant!
if you want a shiny, keep resetting at 40. its the highest the shiny rate will go.


also i have found something that has helped me a lot. if you arent getting good chains,
save and quit on the route or town closest to where you are trying to chain. restart, go back
and try again. keep retrying until your chances seem higher.
i havent read this anywhere nor have i found it anywhere, but has REALLY helped me.
it may reset some chances in the coding. it helped me get 7 shiny elekid! ^.^
if this does not help you, please inform me.
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