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Old 05-26-2009, 08:00 PM
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Can someone help me with a some stuff for my Gabite

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Item:draco plate
Nature:Brave
Attack:123
defense:73
Sp. Atk:66
Sp. Def:75
Speed:85

Sand Tomb
Slash
Dragon Claw
Dig

Should I replace some of the moves?
oh and could someone please help me train it for Sp. Atk? I'm still raising my full team and I need help with this one, my starter is good enough. but can someone help me with Ev training it's Sp. Atk and Sp. Def?
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:46 PM
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This forum is for competetive play only.
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Old 05-26-2009, 08:59 PM
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1. I know that!

2. This pokemon is for competetive!
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:14 PM
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1. I know that!

2. This pokemon is for competetive!
In that case never mind changing the moves, you need to start again. Awful nature's just the start:

Garchomp@Choice Band/Choice Scarf
Jolly/Adamant
252Att/252Spd/6HP
Outrage
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Stone Edge

That's how garchomp should end up. He's banned from OU and he really needs a choice item to function well in ubers. Adamant with Scarf, Jolly with Band. Outrage and Dragon Claw are used for late and early game sweeping respectively. Earthquake is for secondary STAB and nailing steels. Stone Edge is for Lugia Ho-oh.
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you saying garchomp is on uber list is not really uber.
over 3thousand people told me that
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:31 PM
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you saying garchomp is on uber list is not really uber.
over 3thousand people told me that
No, he is uber.Smogon say he's uber, this site say it's uber and you'll have a fun time trying to find a competant battling society who think any different.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:40 PM
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Smogon are just a bunch of nerds who get mad when people use strong pokemon so they do so.

So they make a list to keep people from using them. whats the use of having legendaries if you cant use them.

Any way how is Garchomp uber -_-
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Smogon are just a bunch of nerds who get mad when people use strong pokemon so they do so.

So they make a list to keep people from using them. whats the use of having legendaries if you cant use them.

Any way how is Garchomp uber -_-
Correct me if I'm wrong, but an Uber is defined as having base stats that total over/equal to 600. 108 HP + 130 Atk + 95 Def + 80 Satk + 85 Sdef + 102 Spd, that's 600 even.
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:51 PM
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What sense does it have to use Gabite in OU if Flygon exists? If it suits you to use a Sand Vailer it uses Pokémon as Gliscor or Sandslash...
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:55 PM
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Why would I use those -_-
can they use just about any move?
Maybe not, but they can certainly do it better, while staying in the OU category.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but an Uber is defined as having base stats that total over/equal to 600. 108 HP + 130 Atk + 95 Def + 80 Satk + 85 Sdef + 102 Spd, that's 600 even.
Basicly your saying my Glaceon is uber -_- its base stats equal up to about 1000


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What sense does it have to use Gabite in OU if Flygon exists? If it suits you to use a Sand Vailer it uses Pokémon as Gliscor or Sandslash...
One, Flygon is not my type. Two I hate those other two pokemon -_-
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Basicly your saying my Glaceon is uber -_- its base stats equal up to about 1000




One, Flygon is not my type. Two I hate those other two pokemon -_-
Those aren't Base Stats. Base stats are taken from what the Pokemon would have if it were level one I believe. Even for something like Garchomp, they can be calculated in some way. Glaceon's Base Total is 525.
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Smogon are just a bunch of nerds who get mad when people use strong pokemon so they do so.

First off, personal attacks are useless in a formal discussion and will do nothing to help your arguament or reputation. Even if they are nerds, they are a collective battling community that no other matches up to. And tiers are the single best thing that could have happened to the game, they deserve all our credit rather than your criticism.

So they make a list to keep people from using them. whats the use of having legendaries if you cant use them.

You can use them, just in their own tier. On a scale you may understand, would you let an international football team come play in your school league? No, because they would dominate eveybody else.

Any way how is Garchomp uber -_-

Put simply:
1) After a Swords Dance and combined with superb typing, he can 2HKO almost EVERY non-uber poke in the game. Anything that resists a STAB Outrage takes a super effective Earthquake instead. The only pair that resist both are dealt with by an unboosted Fire Blast- Bronzong is 3HKO'd and skarm is 2HKO'd.

2)As well as being superbly fast and strong, he has better defences than Swampert and only has two weaknesses. No dragon would dare switch in on him and ice attacks are neutralized by yache berry.

3)A unique speed tier forced all teams to shift in more speed EVs into their sweepers to counter a single threat. That's called overcentralisation.

4) Sand Veil is a hugely broken ability on him. Assuming you're somehow in a position to KO him through his huge defences with a 100% acc attack, you are still gonna miss 20% of the time for him to pound you into the ground.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but an Uber is defined as having base stats that total over/equal to 600. 108 HP + 130 Atk + 95 Def + 80 Satk + 85 Sdef + 102 Spd, that's 600 even.
Incorrect, hence slaking's position in NU. Ubers need to meet a variety of conditions:

Great typing and stats
Complementary ability
Diverse movepool or a moveset that is widely deemed immune from being countered/checked
The ability to sweep or wall vast portions of OU with ease, or set up another poke to do so.
Lack of counters without forcing the use of pokes or sets unfit for any other purpose

Garchomp ticks all of those boxes, with the last one being the most prominent reason for bumping a poke to uber.
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Incorrect, hence slaking's position in NU. Ubers need to meet a variety of conditions:

Great typing and stats
Complementary ability
Diverse movepool or a moveset that is widely deemed immune from being countered/checked
The ability to sweep or wall vast portions of OU with ease, or set up another poke to do so.
Lack of counters without forcing the use of pokes or sets unfit for any other purpose

Garchomp ticks all of those boxes, with the last one being the most prominent reason for bumping a poke to uber.
I see, I was told it was simply the 600 base total, which made sense to me. Thanks for correcting me.

@Dialga12: The title of this thread is "I need some help!" Yet you refuse to accept any suggestions given. Don't ask for help if you aren't willing to listen to advice from ANYBODY who gives you a valid reason for making those changes.
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