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Old 01-23-2011, 10:30 AM
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Default The great debate.

What do you guys think?

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Who is the better wall

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That shuckle is the better choice due to the move power trick, which quickly drops attack stats of opposite pokemon. Also that shuckle has both equal defense and special defense. When all blissey has is high special defense and hp. Thats the only thing that i find different

NOTE: This is about who can wall the best not provide support to team.
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Old 01-23-2011, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: The great debate.

Well i think that Blissey is = to Shukle 1 they have high defence
and dont have much power
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Old 01-23-2011, 11:35 AM
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I personally like Shuckle more as a wall. Not for any particular reason. I just do.
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: The great debate.

You can't even compare Shuckle to Blissey. Blissey is infinately better. Shuckle lacks viable recovery, and even under Sandstorm, it dies far too easily. Blissey is also better at supporting the team and taking hits in general, and Shuckle's HP lets Shuckle down.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: The great debate.

This reminds me of the other great debates...
Salamence or Dratini!
Snorlax or Dunsparce!
Kyogre or a common household ginuea pig!

Seriously, there's no contest. Shuckle has raw defensive stats, encore... and that's it. Bliss has gargantuan defensive stats where it matters, the ability to shed status instantly, instant recovery, fully developed support movepool, and adequate offensive prowess to not be setup bait. Blissey is a fully formed special wall, Shuckle is a flailing annoyer with latent defensive stats, serving little more than as a mild nuisance.
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Old 01-23-2011, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: The great debate.

After what you guys said would shuckle still be usable in NU?
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Old 01-24-2011, 08:27 PM
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After what you guys said would shuckle still be usable in NU?
Not as a dedicated wall, it's just setup bait. Knock Off/Encore/Toxic/Rest is the standard Shuckle set, and allows it to actually achieve something. Knock Off nerfs choice attackers who need the raw power to function, or defensive pokemon reliant of lefties for recovery. Encore buys you free turns for your own pokemon to set up, if you can keep your opponent either using boosting moves or an attack your own poke is immune to. Toxic is Toxic, and Rest gives you the chance at a last-ditch toxic stall if you're left solely with Shuckle in play. Max HP is vital, huge defence stats are nice and all but it doesn't count for much if Blissey can come in and 2HKO you with Seismic Toss. Max HP grants the largest boost of survivability, the remaining EVs can be split between the two defensive stats for general survivability.
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Old 01-24-2011, 09:14 PM
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Shuckle sucks, Blissey is where it is at. Imma double-slap softboil mach punch magical leaf combo your asses.
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