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10-05-2006, 01:03 AM
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Re: Do Shiny Legendaries "make sense"?
Think about it. Shiny is like the pokemon version of albanism. My hypothesis is that legendaries would have the rare "gene" to make them shiny, making it so there's no reason for it to not make sense.
Sadly, I know this because I study albanism. But it's hard to help, as I'm a case of albanism.
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10-06-2006, 09:18 PM
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Re: Do Shiny Legendaries "make sense"?
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Alright, I believe this would be the correct subforum for such a question, and the debate that would follow (all friendly of course).
Now, I've heard about people (mostly online) talk about shiny legendaries. A creature already very rare, only even rarer than it normally would be. However, does it make sense to have a shiny legendary? Considering there is only one of every kind of legendary (sans Latios and Latias, or Lugia according to the anime), why would a one-of-a-kind pokemon be different than it has always been reported to be, by local legend and such (for example, the people of Johto saying Ho-Oh being a "rainbow" in color, whereas it's silver as a shiny)? And considering that there is only "one" of most legendaries, does that make a "shiny" one-of-a-kind legendary no longer shiny, since it's the only one of it's kind, and therefore not a variant of what it usually is but what it actually is?
In short, does a "shiny" legendary make sense if it one-of-a-kind? Would it not just be a legendary, with all reports of it's "regular" colors a misconception?
Many thanks to anyone who'll take the time to think on this. =)
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what the crap that makes do sense
after reading the other posts i get it. well i agree with the hidden thingy whoever that was
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10-07-2006, 03:43 AM
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Re: Do Shiny Legendaries "make sense"?
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Originally Posted by HELVENEUE
There isnt 1 of a Legendary...
I remember seeing somewhere, in the anime or a movie or something, a Lugia mother and her baby Lugia.
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Originally Posted by Hypocrisy is Fun
And the Latios and Latias had a baby Lati@s;
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I suppose you two missed my part of the post where I wrote;
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Originally Posted by The Kaiser
(sans Latios and Latias, or Lugia according to the anime)
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Originally Posted by lil_leprachaun33
Shiny Legendaries make sense to me. Not Mewtwo though since there's only one. The Game only puts one legend in to limit you from catching as many as you want in order to have a team of super Kyogres. There are more Kyogres out there, they remain hidden. And sure, though the hundreds of years of legendary generations, there's bound to be an oddly colored legend.
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Umm, no. There is only one Kyogre per, say "universe" (and a seperate universe per game if you would), considering that the only one in existance that went to battle with Groudon went into a deep slumber after a cataclysmic battle with Groudon. And even if a Kyogre were able to reproduce, which according to its gender, it's not, there's not another Kyogre to reproduce with. So therefore there's just one Kyogre, same with one Groudon, one of each legendary dog, and so on for those that there are not multiples of.
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Originally Posted by SpazzedoutRayquaza
Think about it. Shiny is like the pokemon version of albanism. My hypothesis is that legendaries would have the rare "gene" to make them shiny, making it so there's no reason for it to not make sense.
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But the problem is with say, a Black Rayquaza, is that since in the games (well, Emerald anyway), Rayquaza is referred to as a "green" flying pokemon. How does that allow then for a black Rayquaza in Emerald?
And yes people, I know "it's a game!" and such, I do however just like to think on things like when I have little else to do. And no, I won't be losing sleep over such a subject. =)
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10-07-2006, 08:40 AM
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Re: Do Shiny Legendaries "make sense"?
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Originally Posted by lil_leprachaun33
Shiny Legendaries make sense to me. Not Mewtwo though since there's only one. The Game only puts one legend in to limit you from catching as many as you want in order to have a team of super Kyogres. There are more Kyogres out there, they remain hidden. And sure, though the hundreds of years of legendary generations, there's bound to be an oddly colored legend.
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Yuh.
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Originally Posted by The Kaiser
Umm, no. There is only one Kyogre per, say "universe" (and a seperate universe per game if you would), considering that the only one in existance that went to battle with Groudon went into a deep slumber after a cataclysmic battle with Groudon. And even if a Kyogre were able to reproduce, which according to its gender, it's not, there's not another Kyogre to reproduce with. So therefore there's just one Kyogre, same with one Groudon, one of each legendary dog, and so on for those that there are not multiples of.
But the problem is with say, a Black Rayquaza, is that since in the games (well, Emerald anyway), Rayquaza is referred to as a "green" flying pokemon. How does that allow then for a black Rayquaza in Emerald?
And yes people, I know "it's a game!" and such, I do however just like to think on things like when I have little else to do. And no, I won't be losing sleep over such a subject. =)
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I apologise, Kaiser.
I'm too tired to edit and concise your post.
There may be "only one", but think logically; pokemon breed.
If even it's a mix, i'm sure kyogres and zapdos' have unleashed with other similar monsters. It may not be fasion show quality, but it happens. Maybe that's where you'll get lucky and find a black rayquaza..
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10-07-2006, 01:55 PM
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Re: Do Shiny Legendaries "make sense"?
hhmmm i can understand the rayquaza one, and kyogre and Groudon are obviously immortal, and there's Diaruga and Parukia which are pretty much gods [c'mon, they control time and space, who wouldnt say thats a godly gift] and that new 'god' pokemon, so yeah, certain pokemon there should only be one. but for the dogs are bird legendaries, it doesnt make sense that they'd be 'immortal', they're not gods, they dont live in a world outside the pokemon world, they arent ghosts, i would think there has to more than 'one' of these pokemon considering they don't have a significant role in the pokemon world. i mean lugia 'does' have kids, as does latias + latios, and Ho-oh is pretty much a pheonix, so when it dies, it is reborn from it's own ashes [clever asian mythology], so pretty much, what im trying to say is, there must be more than one of the legendary dogs/birds meaning that there is a more likely chance that there 'could' be 'shiney' forms of those particular pokemon! .
but this is just coming from the top of my head here, so yeah!
[Edit: the other shiney ones i.e. rayquazza -- are just lore breaking :p]
[sorry if i've got poke-lore mixed up there  im pretty sure those dogs/birds arent immortal though ...]
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10-07-2006, 02:28 PM
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Re: Do Shiny Legendaries "make sense"?
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Originally Posted by !ceMan
There may be "only one", but think logically; pokemon breed.
If even it's a mix, i'm sure kyogres and zapdos' have unleashed with other similar monsters. It may not be fashion show quality, but it happens. Maybe that's where you'll get lucky and find a black rayquaza..
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I am thinking logically with breeding. Pokemon that are gender neutral though just wouldn't be able to breed, so that would not allow for pokemon like Rayquaza or Groudon to sire children. Simply put, according at least to game canon, they wouldn't be able to breed, and therefore there would be only one of the gender neutral legendaries.
Of course though, the show canon differs, but I'm not exactly trying to grapple with that topic.
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