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Old 09-17-2010, 01:27 AM
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Default he's gonna be uber.

has anybody seen the ononokusu the new dragons stats. his base stat for attack is 147. thats just 3 lower than ubers like rayquaza and groundon. his speed is base 92 which makes him faster than 80% of the Ou tier. Did i only see that he might obviously be overpowered.
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Default Re: he's gonna be uber.

smogon has its fingers here and there so yeah the term uber will be stampt on what ever can put a scratch on thier metagame.

is its just me ... why would game developers make characters for a game that will ultimately be left to collect dust?
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smogon has its fingers here and there so yeah the term uber will be stampt on what ever can put a scratch on thier metagame.

is its just me ... why would game developers make characters for a game that will ultimately be left to collect dust?
Because it'll make people want to actually pick the game up. They've innovated the game and created something different for us to like. That past games were the same thing with just small features added. It was getting boring.

I like Gen. 5, tyvm.
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Old 09-18-2010, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: he's gonna be uber.

This generation is absolutely full of overpowered pokes. I think I've counted more non-legendaries with stats breaking the 140 mark than in any other generation. Between the huge new stat lines, new moves, new move tutors and the possibility of Dream World abilities (Speed Boost Blaziken ftw), I think it's far more likely that we'll see a large overhaul of every tier, with OU becoming a lot more offense-based than before (And that's saying something).

Of course it's all theorymon at the moment, and Japan's metagame has always been very different from the western world. I just can't wait for Shoddy/PO to get all the information and implement all the new stuff.
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yep this gen will be good but if you think about most of the main phsyical sweepers of the current Ou division most of them have a 130 atk and can be stopped with the right pokemon, but when you look at the speeds of these current sweepers most are base 77 and below. the 5th gen have much faster sweepers like Aakeosu with 140 atack and 110 speed.
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Old 09-19-2010, 05:06 AM
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Aakeosu's insane stat line does get balanced out by it's ability, which halves all of it's stats when it's HP drops below 50%. Not good at all on a SR weak poke. It's certainly gonna be a monster, but it's gonna need serious wish and spin support to keep itself that way. Luckily there's unblockable spinning now, thanks to an item (presumably one use) that makes attacks hit pokes that are normally immune to it, allowing for unblockable spinning
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I doubt a lot of the things people think are going to be uber actually are, because TONS of pokemon are getting "overpowered" abilities, and you know, when everyone is overpowered, no one is.

Look at a lot of the dream world abilities for old Pokemon, a lot of them are "overpowered" too.

You're more likely to see a full reorganization of tiers.
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I agree with everyone here but I agree with his the most.
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I doubt a lot of the things people think are going to be uber actually are, because TONS of pokemon are getting "overpowered" abilities, and you know, when everyone is overpowered, no one is.

Look at a lot of the dream world abilities for old Pokemon, a lot of them are "overpowered" too.

You're more likely to see a full reorganization of tiers.
But that happened after every "Major" change in the games, i.e. after RBY Tauros went from "need him as your last poke on every team" to "Lol, Tauroswut?" I'm honestly glad they made crazy over stat'd pokes, now people have to think of new things to do. But I'm just worried about what this will mean for shoddy2. T__T I've barely got a grasp on double battle theory, but once shoddy2 comes out there will be little time before B/W pokes get added and then all heck breaks loose with new tiers and crazyness. I'll still love every minute of it though.
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They need to bring back Salamence and Garchomp, so that this thing has competition.
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I guess no one has ever thought that the uber teir could become playable. Right now, ubers is pretty much full of rain and sun, but if some of these pokemon went to ubers, it could make it playable. Many people think ubers is the death penalty for pokemon when it's not.
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They need to bring back Salamence and Garchomp, so that this thing has competition.
they never went away.. You just stoped using them cause a website said you shouldnt use it in Competitive play.
I look 4word to seeing how thing will play out.
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they never went away.. You just stoped using them cause a website said you shouldnt use it in Competitive play.
I look 4word to seeing how thing will play out.
Smogon have pretty much governed the tiering system for the entirety of 4th gen (maybe longer, I wasn't around any earlier), and pretty much every forum on the internet has been have adopted the tiers they put work into keeping balanced and (arguably more importantly) fun. If they say they're gone, then from a competitive standpoint they are. They're bound to drop back into whatever the mutant 5th gen eqivilant of OU is anyway, since Nintendo seem to have poured more wrecking balls into this generation than the last four combined.
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Old 09-24-2010, 07:03 PM
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Default Re: he's gonna be uber.

with the generation shift they might put salamence and garchomp into the Ou until they get banned,and from another website people are saying onosuku is actually over-hyped. they say he lacks the spd his fellow uber dragons have. idk how ono will be played. we just have to wait.
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Smogon have pretty much governed the tiering system for the entirety of 4th gen (maybe longer, I wasn't around any earlier), and pretty much every forum on the internet has been have adopted the tiers they put work into keeping balanced and (arguably more importantly) fun. If they say they're gone, then from a competitive standpoint they are. They're bound to drop back into whatever the mutant 5th gen eqivilant of OU is anyway, since Nintendo seem to have poured more wrecking balls into this generation than the last four combined.
It's useless to try to fight about that with him. He think's smogon will be the ultimate downfall of pokemon

Anyway, there is one thing Ono doesn't have that'll probably keep him in OU, no fire attacks.
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