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First & Second Generations Discuss the first and second generation games: Red, Blue, Yellow, Gold, Silver and Crystal.


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Old 03-16-2005, 03:23 PM
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Ash has gone through plenty of things. He's seen the whole Kanto-world and has been the League Champion. He doesn't have to talk, he has already reached everything. Now, he's not the best anymore (that's supposed to be you) and he disappears. He has nothing to say, and he doesn't have too. I think Lance's quote when you beat him would be more appropriate here, but of course, then he would have talked.
If you want to face him again you have to beat the Poke'mon League.
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Old 03-16-2005, 03:27 PM
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Dude, this is Ash we're talking about. The guy who cries just because he loses half way through a common Pokemon League, or to a common Gym Leader like Brawly. -_- Someone who's been training for 4 years, and only has about 30 Pokemon in total, and hasn't even won one lousy Pokemon League. Not counting the Orange League, because Drake was only ONE person. It shouldn't even be called a league.

Ash would put his hat down to cover his eyes, and sob, Kenta (GSC Hero), or Marina (C Hero), whoever you go with, would say; "it's okay, Ash (Red)." Ash would say; "WAH!!!!!!!!!" and run off like a little baby. I can picture it all now. He has to learn how to take defeat more maturely!
You've got a point. If you ever watch the show and he loses the he gets all depressed. Even if it's someone with a Gyrados, which can easily be beaten by Pikachu.
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he probably doesnt speak because of his wounds
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Old 03-23-2005, 08:13 PM
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he probably doesnt speak because of his wounds
Wounds? What wounds?
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Wounds? What wounds?
i discovered that this game has more to do with manga than anime.
in the gsc series, red(or ash)suffers from injuries on his wrists due to the ice cuffs from lorelei(see yellow and gsc series)and green(or gary)lent his charizard to red for him to go to mt. silver(blue also lent her blastoise).

for manga go to www .serebii.net
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loreli's cuffs?? do tell more...
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Old 03-24-2005, 11:41 PM
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loreli's cuffs?? do tell more...
ice cuffs
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still... loreli put ice cuffs on Ash??? can I get a story overview??
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Old 03-28-2005, 12:52 AM
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Go to:

http://www.serebii.net/manga/chapter.shtml

There are chapter guides there. ^_^ The Yellow series is chapters 41-90.

The Elite Four (Lorii, Bruno, Agatha, and Lance) are evil. When they were younger, Lance's Dratini and Lorrii's Seel (they weren't together when it happened) died of polution. That made them both hate humans (because the polution was from a industrile factery). Lance (or Agatha) brainwashed Bruno, I think, into hating humans, too. As for Agatha, I have no idea what her reason is. Nor do I know if she's good now. Lance, Lorrii, and Bruno all become good (Lance in the GSC Saga, Lorrii in the FR&LG Saga, and Bruno just near the end of the Y Saga).

The Elite Four's goal was to destroy humanity. But Yellow stopped them, with the help of the retired Team Rocket Gym Leaders, and the other heroes (and Bill).

Blue and Sabrina VS. Lorrii

Green and Kaga VS. Agatha

Bill (was meant to be Red, but he wasn't around at the start of the battle) and Lt. Surge VS Bruno (Red comes in later to help Bill and Lt. Surge)

Yellow and Blaine VS Lance (Giovanni comes in later to "stop" (kill) Lance)

Here is a good picture of the teams from TK. Special. Red and Giovanni aren't in it, though:



So, yeah. I don't think the Elite Four is THAT bad. They're only destroying humanity so that Pokemon can live in harmony without the threats of humans. (Lance and Lorrii are, anyway).

Lorrii freezes Red when he is ganged up on by her, Bruno, and Agatha because he refuses to join the Elite Four. He has to reach the hot springs in Mt. Silver to help his wounds. (Giovanni saved Red from the ice just before he went off to face Lance).

Another important note: Lance has the ability to heal Pokemon. Also to read their minds and speak to them psychicly. Yellow isn't a very good battler, but she was chosen to stop Lance because she has the same ability as he does. Thus, been one of the only ones who can stop him.

Yes... I'm a Manga Lance fan, and damn proud of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope that helped. ^_^

Anyways, I doubt Red was silent because of the wounds. >_< Because the Elite Four is good (ER) in the games, and wouldn't have frozen him. O_o;;
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Go to:

http://www.serebii.net/manga/chapter.shtml

There are chapter guides there. ^_^ The Yellow series is chapters 41-90.

The Elite Four (Lorii, Bruno, Agatha, and Lance) are evil. When they were younger, Lance's Dratini and Lorrii's Seel (they weren't together when it happened) died of polution. That made them both hate humans (because the polution was from a industrile factery). Lance (or Agatha) brainwashed Bruno, I think, into hating humans, too. As for Agatha, I have no idea what her reason is. Nor do I know if she's good now. Lance, Lorrii, and Bruno all become good (Lance in the GSC Saga, Lorrii in the FR&LG Saga, and Bruno just near the end of the Y Saga).

The Elite Four's goal was to destroy humanity. But Yellow stopped them, with the help of the retired Team Rocket Gym Leaders, and the other heroes (and Bill).

Blue and Sabrina VS. Lorrii

Green and Kaga VS. Agatha

Bill (was meant to be Red, but he wasn't around at the start of the battle) and Lt. Surge VS Bruno (Red comes in later to help Bill and Lt. Surge)

Yellow and Blaine VS Lance (Giovanni comes in later to "stop" (kill) Lance)

Here is a good picture of the teams from TK. Special. Red and Giovanni aren't in it, though:



So, yeah. I don't think the Elite Four is THAT bad. They're only destroying humanity so that Pokemon can live in harmony without the threats of humans. (Lance and Lorrii are, anyway).

Lorrii freezes Red when he is ganged up on by her, Bruno, and Agatha because he refuses to join the Elite Four. He has to reach the hot springs in Mt. Silver to help his wounds. (Giovanni saved Red from the ice just before he went off to face Lance).

Another important note: Lance has the ability to heal Pokemon. Also to read their minds and speak to them psychicly. Yellow isn't a very good battler, but she was chosen to stop Lance because she has the same ability as he does. Thus, been one of the only ones who can stop him.

Yes... I'm a Manga Lance fan, and damn proud of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope that helped. ^_^

Anyways, I doubt Red was silent because of the wounds. >_< Because the Elite Four is good (ER) in the games, and wouldn't have frozen him. O_o;;
thank you for the explanation nicoleb
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:32 PM
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You're welcome. ^_^
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yea, thanx!! I was a bit confused...
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Old 03-30-2005, 03:27 AM
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You're welcome, too, thepokingmaster123. ^_^

Yeah, the Manga can be very confusing at times! >_<
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just one thing, nicoleb, how do you know that lorelei turns good in FRLG series
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We really don't know.
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