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Old 03-01-2008, 11:47 AM
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I am honestly astounded a flamer hasn't found its way here yet, *touches wood* :p

It's interesting, SkiboyDoggy said that Muslims were converted Jews, but, how come their belief seems so... Different?

I spelt Quran, Koran, because I think the latter is the English spelling for it or something? Ah well. As long as we're all on the same wave-length.

Hanukkah is Jewish right?
I'm speaking for their origins. The original Muslims belonged to the same religion as the Jewish, just that while the Muslims believe that Prophet Mohammad (don't kill me if I mispell his name please) is the Messiah, Christians in Jesus, and the Jews are still waiting. There are also Jewish splinter cults who believe that various others are the Messiah as well, but I won't get into that.

Also, Jewish and Muslim beliefs are surprisingly similar. A lot of the same things are just named differently. Take a look at the Jewish, Christian (only Old Testament though), and the first parts of the Islamic holy books, and you can easily see how they are actually describing the EXACT SAME HISTORY.
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I'm speaking for their origins. The original Muslims belonged to the same religion as the Jewish, just that while the Muslims believe that Prophet Mohammad (don't kill me if I mispell his name please) is the Messiah, Christians in Jesus, and the Jews are still waiting. There are also Jewish splinter cults who believe that various others are the Messiah as well, but I won't get into that.

Also, Jewish and Muslim beliefs are surprisingly similar. A lot of the same things are just named differently. Take a look at the Jewish, Christian (only Old Testament though), and the first parts of the Islamic holy books, and you can easily see how they are actually describing the EXACT SAME HISTORY.

We Belive That Jesus Name [ In Arabic ] Is Isa The Masseh ( I Think It Is Messiah In English )

Muslims Think That Jewish Came Before Christians So You Know
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I am a Christian, but I'm not going to force my beliefs on anyone. I just get super pissed when people insult mine.
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I am a Christian, but I'm not going to force my beliefs on anyone. I just get super pissed when people insult mine.


Eh, that's ok, just make sure, even when people do insult your beliefs, you don't try to shove them down their throats, state your... Whatevers and shove their words right back up their [censored] ^_^

I'm a notorious Christian... Half-Flamer, but I respect all beliefs. I just don't worship them.

If you translate some of the Muslim Religious words into direct English (Like... A good translator, not like the hilarious Babelfish), do they come out as something like what they mean in the original language?
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Eh, that's ok, just make sure, even when people do insult your beliefs, you don't try to shove them down their throats, state your... Whatevers and shove their words right back up their [censored] ^_^

I'm a notorious Christian... Half-Flamer, but I respect all beliefs. I just don't worship them.

If you translate some of the Muslim Religious words into direct English (Like... A good translator, not like the hilarious Babelfish), do they come out as something like what they mean in the original language?
I don't shove my beliefs down other's throats. It may seem like it, but that's not what I'm trying to do.
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We Belive That Jesus Name [ In Arabic ] Is Isa The Masseh ( I Think It Is Messiah In English )

Muslims Think That Jewish Came Before Christians So You Know
Jews came before Christians. Its like one religion(Hebrew) split into 3 others.(Christian,Muslim,Jewsish) Correct me if Im wrong though.
But if Muslim and Jewish are so alike why are they always fighting in the middle east?
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Jews came before Christians. Its like one religion(Hebrew) split into 3 others.(Christian,Muslim,Jewsish) Correct me if Im wrong though.
But if Muslim and Jewish are so alike why are they always fighting in the middle east?
Read up on the Crusades. Besides, Protestants and Catholics fought a bloody war too.
Slight deviations in belief can cause more dangerous warfare than complete differences.
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Read up on the Crusades. Besides, Protestants and Catholics fought a bloody war too.
Slight deviations in belief can cause more dangerous warfare than complete differences.
Hmm true. They did fight but IMO the Catholics were more corrupted during the middle ages. Of course Im not saying the Protestants were perfect either just the Chatholics controlled everything and used God's name to kill which is wrong...
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If you stuck anyone who had an argument with someone else in a room together, like... The leaders of the Israeli and the Gaza Strip thing, seriously, leave them there for a few weeks, they'd sort things out. Even if they just threw insults at each other. Or just glared. They'd come to an eventual resolution. Now, if you did that with some legal cases, it would save a rainforest worth of paper and a few years of lawyer's time.

Why did the Nazi's think what they did to Jews was right? Or did they just do it because they thought they were 'evil' or something? Touchy subject. Sorry.
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If you stuck anyone who had an argument with someone else in a room together, like... The leaders of the Israeli and the Gaza Strip thing, seriously, leave them there for a few weeks, they'd sort things out. Even if they just threw insults at each other. Or just glared. They'd come to an eventual resolution. Now, if you did that with some legal cases, it would save a rainforest worth of paper and a few years of lawyer's time.

Why did the Nazi's think what they did to Jews was right? Or did they just do it because they thought they were 'evil' or something? Touchy subject. Sorry.
It's not a good idea to say that they "would" come to a solution when really all you're proposing is an idea, and a poor, idealistic one at that. I can't tell if you're underestimating the stubbornness some individuals harbor or overestimating the forgiving nature of people.

I mean, for all you know, one of the men you put in the room could strangle the other one. Good luck reaching a solution then.
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Jews came before Christians. Its like one religion(Hebrew) split into 3 others.(Christian,Muslim,Jewsish) Correct me if Im wrong though.
But if Muslim and Jewish are so alike why are they always fighting in the middle east?

Thats What I Said
Muslims And Jewish Aren't Alike At All
I Don't Know About Hebrew Though
All I Know Is That Jewish Had Their Prophet Musa
Then Came The Christians With Their Prophet Isa ( Jesus )
After That Came The Muslims With The Last Prophet That Was Sent From God

So What I'm Saying That The Jewish And Christians Had Prophets From God
But After Islam Came To Humans
God Didn't Sent Another Prophet
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Some religions i under stand such as Jewish, Buddism and Hindusism. But what I dont understand is Islam, Mormonism and Satanism.
Islam- The people in Islam seem to cause all the problems in Iraq and Afghanastan. They think God will be happy if they blow them selves up to kill 20 other Muslims. There religion makes women were vails which I dont understand, look at some people in America they walk down the street with no shirt no shoes. There religion creator would not like that, there religion has to change, look at my Religion Catholism, it has changed since it was created around 20 A.D. We can eat pork now, we can eat meat on normal fridays, women can recieve annoyting and the bible has been translated from Hebrew to Latin to Old English to New English while Islams Koran cannot be translated from Arabic. Like I said before there religion could use changed such as allowing them to eat pork and drink wine. On to the next Topic:
Judahsim- There religion makes complete sense to me but they were looking for a savior to come down and bring salvation....Jesus came and they missed him...............so they are still in search of the savior.

In my religion Catholism we have the Pope (who right now looks like he is 250 years old) running the church. Protestants have services were the pastor goes on for hours talking about Jesus which I dont understand that seems really boring. When a Catholic Priest talks about god through medaphors like Noah's Ark and The Story of Esau it can be less boring. Another thing protestants have wrong is The Story of Adam and Eve is a medaphor not a true story.

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Islam- The people in Islam seem to cause all the problems in Iraq and Afghanastan. Just Because Those Morons Are Muslims ... It Doesn't Mean That All Mulims Are Terrorists
They think God will be happy if they blow them selves up to kill 20 other Muslims. We Don't Think That Really
There religion makes women were vails which I dont understand, That Is A Thing That I Don't Know About Since I Skip The Girl Stuff look at some people in America they walk down the street with no shirt no shoes So Muslims Should Run Around Half Naked Too??. There religion creator would not like that , there religion has to change Why ... Just To Keep COOL And Modern??, look at my Religion Catholism, it has changed since it was created around 20 A.D. We can eat pork now Muslims Stick With What Is Said In The Holy Quran .. And It Says Don't Eat Pork, we can eat meat on normal fridays, women can recieve annoyting and the bible has been translated from Hebrew to Latin to Old English to New English while Islams Koran cannot be translated from Arabic It Has Been Translated So You Know .... And There Are TV Channels Which Air English Lectures About Islam. Like I said before there religion could use changed such as allowing them to eat pork and drink wine Muslims Can't Drink Any Alcohol .. Because We Have To Prey Five Times A Day .. And Like I Said .. It Is Mentioned In The Quran.
And Like The Author Of The Thread Said

And don't tell a Muslim they had something to do with the Taliban ( The Morons Who Blow The Selves Every Where ). That's just so racist and... [censored] little [censored] like you should be executed. (No offense. But really. Blaming a whole religion? That's gay.)
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And don't tell a Muslim they had something to do with the Taliban ( The Morons Who Blow The Selves Every Where ). That's just so racist and... [censored] little [censored] like you should be executed. (No offense. But really. Blaming a whole religion? That's gay.)
My point is the religion needs to modernize, and its not racist, islam is not a race. I have nothing against the religion I dont undertsand it, most Muslims are fine in America but I cant forgive the ones who live in the middle east after they killed a few family members.

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