If anyone's interested in Finnish...

[Pika57]

Originally Posted by IT

Traditionally:

On December 24th the main part of Christmas celebratrion happens. In the morning, the christmas tree is brought inside and decorated. Once the tree is ready, it probably is around midday, so it's lunch time. Rice porridge is the lunch on Christmas. Usually, the maker of the porridge mixes one almond in the porridge. The one who finds it in the porridge by luck and eating, is said to have good luck next year.

In the evening, we pretty much only eat. Instead of turkey, we have a huge ham (5-10 kg), carrot- , potato- and liver"boxes". Loads of different fish, like salmon, cod and others. For dessert, the traditional one is "sekametelsoppa" which, if translated straight, means " mixed noise soup". It consists of plums, apricots and pears.

After eating the main dish and the dessert, and probably drinking coffee and tea, the Santa comes. In Finnish, his name is Joulupukki, translated, "Christmas Goat". The name comes from a legend which I wont tell now. But in Finnish manner, the Santa does not live at North Pole but at Korvatunturi, "the Earmound". That's where he sets off from.

Santa delivers presents on the 24th evening of Christmas and the people are happy. The 25th and 26th day are for resting, playing around with the presents and honoring the dead relatives by taking candles to their graves. The graveyard is a beautiful sight once all the candles are lit.

That's a nice summary of it.

THATS what a Christmas goat is... yeah my science teacher gave a big speach before break abotu about different cultures and stuff and metioned that.

He also mentioned some other intresting cultural traditinos that seem screwed up compared to yours....

But that sounds cool... but really why an almond... why not a snickers bar.(JK. nto trying to make fun of your culture)

[Japucar]

Originally Posted by Pika57

THATS what a Christmas goat is... yeah my science teacher gave a big speach before break abotu about different cultures and stuff and metioned that.

He also mentioned some other intresting cultural traditinos that seem screwed up compared to yours....

But that sounds cool... but really why an almond... why not a snickers bar.(JK. nto trying to make fun of your culture)

In Denmark we also have the almond in our "risengrød". Can you pronounce that?

Sorry, I was definetly NOT trying to get people to think about Danish or go to my thread :D

But, if you want, it is right here : http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/foru...ad.php?t=13127

[liquid crystal]

Originally Posted by Japucar

In Denmark we also have the almond in our "risengrød". Can you pronounce that?

Sorry, I was definetly NOT trying to get people to think about Danish or go to my thread :D

But, if you want, it is right here : http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/foru...ad.php?t=13127

No offense or anything, but I've heard Danish is one of the most unpleasant languages to the ears. There're a lot of weird jokes about it too.

This year for Christmas I'm going to a white elephant party. Everyone brings a stupid useless gift and steals from everyone else to get as good a gift as possible.

[Japucar]

Originally Posted by liquid crystal

No offense or anything, but I've heard Danish is one of the most unpleasant languages to the ears. There're a lot of weird jokes about it too.

This year for Christmas I'm going to a white elephant party. Everyone brings a stupid useless gift and steals from everyone else to get as good a gift as possible.

Your right, but it still my native language :D

[IT]

Originally Posted by Japucar

In Denmark we also have the almond in our "risengrød". Can you pronounce that?

Sorry, I was definetly NOT trying to get people to think about Danish or go to my thread :D

But, if you want, it is right here : http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/foru...ad.php?t=13127

Yeah I can pronounce it, jag kan tala svenska bra.

And I've heard the Danish is pronounced the same way Swedish is.

[Japucar]

Yeah it is quite simiular for people who don't know the languages, but it is very different for me.

[PainKiller]

Dude IT teach me the language, maybe I won't fail forgin language class now

[IT]

Originally Posted by The Boogeyman...

Dude IT teach me the language, maybe I won't fail forgin language class now

Finnish is considered to be one of the hardest languages there is, after chinese and stuff.

[liquid crystal]

Originally Posted by IT

And I've heard the Danish is pronounced the same way Swedish is.

I've heard every Danish vowel is, like, pharyngealized.

Originally Posted by IT

Finnish is considered to be one of the hardest languages there is, after chinese and stuff.

You mean, after English?[/inside joke]

>.>

[Japucar]

Originally Posted by liquid crystal

I've heard every Danish vowel is, like, pharyngealized. >.>

It might be, but what does it mean? lol

[liquid crystal]

Originally Posted by Japucar

It might be, but what does it mean? lol

From Wikipedia:
"Pharyngealisation is a secondary articulation of consonants or vowels by which the pharynx is constricted during the articulation of the sound. Arabic also uses phonemic secondary pharyngealisation for the "emphatic" coronal consonants. The letter ayn represents a pharyngealized glottal stop in many dialects. Ubykh, a Northwest Caucasian language formerly spoken in Russia and Turkey, uses pharyngealisation in 14 pharyngealised consonants. Chilcotin has pharyngealized consonants that trigger pharyngealization of vowels. Many languages (e.g. Salishan, Sahaptian) in the Plateau culture area of North America also have pharyngealization processes triggered by pharyngeal or pharyngealized consonants that affect vowels. In Danish many of the vowel phonemes have distinct pharyngealized qualities."

Hope that helps.

[IT]

Originally Posted by liquid crystal

From Wikipedia:
"Pharyngealisation is a secondary articulation of consonants or vowels by which the pharynx is constricted during the articulation of the sound. Arabic also uses phonemic secondary pharyngealisation for the "emphatic" coronal consonants. The letter ayn represents a pharyngealized glottal stop in many dialects. Ubykh, a Northwest Caucasian language formerly spoken in Russia and Turkey, uses pharyngealisation in 14 pharyngealised consonants. Chilcotin has pharyngealized consonants that trigger pharyngealization of vowels. Many languages (e.g. Salishan, Sahaptian) in the Plateau culture area of North America also have pharyngealization processes triggered by pharyngeal or pharyngealized consonants that affect vowels. In Danish many of the vowel phonemes have distinct pharyngealized qualities."

Hope that helps.

>_>

Half of the words are ununderstandable because half of the words include "pharyngealisation"...

[liquid crystal]

lol, Let's see if I can "translate".

A secondary articulation is where the tongue (or whatever) sorta "floats" over a point of articulation thus modifying the airstream and sound of the original sound. An example in English would be the sound that "qu" makes: a velar stop (ie "k") with a labial secondary articulation (the "w" sound).

I'm not completely sure if I pronounce pharyngeal consonants correctly, but an educated guess would be that your pharynx'd be above your glottis (er... kinda where your adam's apple is) somewhere behind your uvula (the dangly thing).

It goes on to say languages like Arabic employs phonemic pharyngealized consonants like t, s, and d, and later that pharyngealized consonants sometimes pharyngealize surrounding vowels.

I've read in a teach-yourself-Arabic book that you can best approximate emphatic consonant by pretending you have a mouthful of cotton. I kinda tighten my throat like I'm hacking up a furball or something.

[IT]

Originally Posted by liquid crystal

lol, Let's see if I can "translate".

A secondary articulation is where the tongue (or whatever) sorta "floats" over a point of articulation thus modifying the airstream and sound of the original sound. An example in English would be the sound that "qu" makes: a velar stop (ie "k") with a labial secondary articulation (the "w" sound).

I'm not completely sure if I pronounce pharyngeal consonants correctly, but an educated guess would be that your pharynx'd be above your glottis (er... kinda where your adam's apple is) somewhere behind your uvula (the dangly thing).

It goes on to say languages like Arabic employs phonemic pharyngealized consonants like t, s, and d, and later that pharyngealized consonants sometimes pharyngealize surrounding vowels.

I've read in a teach-yourself-Arabic book that you can best approximate emphatic consonant by pretending you have a mouthful of cotton. I kinda tighten my throat like I'm hacking up a furball or something.

Now you killed the Finnish thread by posting a reply that no one could reply to.

[liquid crystal]

Originally Posted by IT

Now you killed the Finnish thread by posting a reply that no one could reply to.

That's one of my talents.