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Old 05-29-2008, 10:51 PM
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Default Who's the most OU/Overrated Pokemon/Combo/Team/Etc. in 4th gen?

One night I was thinking, and I simply thought which Pokemon on the same team would basically make a 'typical' team. Of course, along with that comes the question of which Pokemon is the most like that, too. I suppose there are some statistics that might say something, but one's opinion counts, too. One may think Garchomp, while another thinks Blissey. In any case, it's up to you. It would preferable if you listed the moves, item, nature, EVs and all that, but you don't have to. Please don't just say, "That one on Smogon for (insert Pokemon here)." And if you do, at least put the link to the page and say which one it is as well specifying everything completely (tell which ones are most for things like two moves or nature or item or ability separated by "/"). At the bottom will be a list of Pokemon in order of votes.

Of course there are also teams, combos (of anything, really; natures with moves, moves with moves, EVs with natures, items with moves, etc.), and other things, too. You can also state which of those you think is used most frequently.

Then, there is also the possibility that one of these things is simply overrated. You could say this, too, and please put the moves if it is a Pokemon. Don't simply something like, "Adamant natures are overrated," or, "Leftovers is overrated." Give a reason why, also.
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Pokemon with a single vote get bolded. The one in the lead also gets underlined. This a list of every Pokemon in the OU tier (on Smogon, plus Wobbuffet):

Abomasnow.................................0
Azelf...........................................0
Blissey........................................7
Breloom......................................0
Bronzong.....................................1
Celebi..........................................0
Cresselia......................................1
Deoxys-S.....................................0
Donphan......................................0
Dragonite.....................................1
Dugtrio........................................0
Dusknoir......................................0
Electivire......................................0
Forretress.....................................0
Gallade.........................................0
Garchomp.....................................10
Gengar.........................................4
Gliscor..........................................0
Gyarados......................................1
Heatran.........................................2
Heracross......................................1

Hippowdon.....................................0
Infernape........................................3
Jirachi........................................... .0
Jolteon........................................... 0
Kingdra..........................................0
Lucario........................................... 2
Machamp........................................0
Magnezone......................................0
Mamoswine......................................0
Metagross........................................0
Milotic........................................... ...0
Ninjask........................................... .0
Porygon-Z........................................0
Salamence.......................................1
Scizor............................................ ..0
Skarmory.........................................0
Snorlax........................................... .0
Starmie........................................... .4
Suicune........................................... .1
Swampert.........................................0
Tentacruel........................................ .0
Togekiss.......................................... .0
Tyranitar......................................... .2
Vapereon.......................................... 0
Weavile........................................... .1
Wobbuffet......................................... 0
Yanmega..........................................0
Zapdos............................................ .0

I'll add a non-OU Pokemon if at least two people mention it. I suppose that Garchomp is on top as of now, so I'll with Smogon's "bread and butter" set:

Garchomp@Life Orb/Yache Berry/Leftovers
Sand Veil
Adamant/Jolly
4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake
-Dragon Claw
-Fire Fang

I'll say Leftovers isn't used as much, and there might be more Jolly Garchomps due to Garchomps already massive attack.

Most OU item: Leftovers

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The most overrated things will go here (I'll start with just a Pokemon; I'll increase if other people mention other things):

I suppose it's:

Electivire - ???
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~NOTE: I am not going to put, say:
Rattata@Focus Sash
Run Away
Docile
None
-Tackle
-Endeavor
-Quick Attack
-Hyper Fang
That doesn't mean don't post that. A laugh every now and then is okay. It just won't count.

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1. Garchomp (10)
2. Blissey (7)
3. Starmie (4)
4. Gengar (4)
5. Infernape (3)
6. Heatran (2)
7. Lucario (2)
8. Tyranitar (2)
9. Bronzong (1)
10. Cresselia (1)
11. Dragonite (1)
12. Gyarados (1)
13. Heracross (1)
14. Salamence (1)
15. Suicune (1)
16. Weavile (1)

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Old 05-30-2008, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Who's the most OU/Overrated Pokemon/Combo/Team/Etc. in 4th gen?

May as well get the obvious one out the way

Blissey + Leftovers
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EVs: 148HP, 252Def 108Sp.Atk
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I hate how stupidly commen this thing is. He's awesome, i get that, but jesus mix it up a bit, i'm just tired of seeing him
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Who's the most OU/Overrated Pokemon/Combo/Team/Etc. in 4th gen?

here is another painfully common guy

Tyranatar@choice band adamant EV's 252 ATK, 252 SPD, 6 HP

-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Dragon Dance
-Crunch

Lock your doors seal your windows its a tyranatar one of the most damn common thing in wifi rivaling blissy.
Sure its powerful no doubt about that but every one has one.
That is why all you need to do is send out first one water type which can suvive earthquake or outrun it and use surf or ice beam then congaulations you have taken down your opponents first guy.

Look i have nothing agenced it, its just that people never learn that they should start a battle off with some thing like starmie to get a lead on there opponant.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: Who's the most OU/Overrated Pokemon/Combo/Team/Etc. in 4th gen?

Oh yeah SOS, those CB Dragon Dance Tyrantiars are all over the place ;)
But yeah, Blissey is stupidly overused, but not overrated. I've found aromatherapy variants to be more common.
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Old 05-30-2008, 12:31 PM
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i see more tyranatars thsn blissys (i haven't had a single match with out someone using one)
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Old 05-30-2008, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Who's the most OU/Overrated Pokemon/Combo/Team/Etc. in 4th gen?

SALAMENCE, DRAGONITE, GARCHOMP... need i say more. can't put up movesets as there are too many variations but these are still unbeliaveably popular
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:10 PM
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Garchomp is literally the move overused Pokemon of all and there is no contest. Statistics back me up. :\
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:29 PM
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Garchomp is literally the move overused Pokemon of all and there is no contest. Statistics back me up. :\
I don't know why we didnt chek shoddy sooner. The top 5 most used pokes are:
Garchomp
Gengar
Blissey
Gyarados
Tyranitar
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:06 PM
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I don't know why we didnt chek shoddy sooner. The top 5 most used pokes are:
Garchomp
Gengar
Blissey
Gyarados
Tyranitar
You're forgetting to include Heatran and Lucario, who have placed in the top 5 as well.

Really, the top 10 spots tend to shuffle around a lot, so I feel it's more appropriate to name 10 Pokemon (the top 5, the ones mentioned above as well as Infernape, Salamence and Bronzong).
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Heracross as well, you all forgot that. he is easily up there. if this post turns out well and a definate top ten or 20 or 50 OU pokemon ( in order ) come out of it then thats brilliant. maybe then ppl will stop saying that their scarfchomp is classed the same as someone elses gallade ( still OU but nowhere near as OU as chomp )
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:14 PM
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Heracross as well, you all forgot that. he is easily up there. if this post turns out well and a definate top ten or 20 or 50 OU pokemon ( in order ) come out of it then thats brilliant. maybe then ppl will stop saying that their scarfchomp is classed the same as someone elses gallade ( still OU but nowhere near as OU as chomp )
Garchomp is the definition of its tier: Over-used. :/

Gengar is popular because you can't predict what it's going to run unless you've fought the guy before. I mean, some nutter might decide to run a modified 3rd Gen standard McGar and rape the crap out of stuff. X_X So Gengar's in the list, but no sets.

Oddly enough everyone I run into on shoddy has a Heatran. D: Which blows chunks out of my team. Scarf Heatran can screw around with you if you're unprepared.

Cresselia is also quite common as well. I haven't built one yet, so I dunno the common set.

Weavile is seen a bit as well. Probably the Choice Band variant.

Weavile @ Choice Band
Pressure
EVs: 252 Attk 252 Spd 6 HP
Jolly
-Pursuit
-Brick Break
-Ice Punch
-Night Slash

And Leftovers has got to be the most over-used item EVER. I mean, the common saying is that "If you don't know what to put on a Pokemon, stuff on a Leftovers". Which is pretty odd. My table scraps are the most overused items in the game!?!?!?!? O_O
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:09 PM
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I'm assuming we're going for stuff that's overrated, not just used alot and good. That's what alot of other people's comments are.

I'd say that all dragons are overrated. Their good and almost every team has them, but for me, they are so easy to take down.
I think people are drawn because of their massive attack and speed and their semi-bulky defenses, but they aren't that good, unless you can utilize them, and since most dragons have no resistances except for ground (if their flying) and almost every special sweeper has and ice move, they become hard to switch in. And now-a-days, their are thousand of dragon counters and pokemon are trained to be able to just barly beat them.
An examples is Hidden power and scarf on gengar to kill grachomp.
Its mainly the OU dragons that are overrated such as Salamance, Garchomp, Dragonite, and (yes...I'm counting him as a dragon) Tyranitar. There's alot of other pokemon out there and its no fun playing the same 4 dragons. I'd rather use Flygon than Grachomp (yes...a little bias) and Altaria just gets sucked into UU.

Waaayyyy overrated...

Garchomp@Choice Scarf
Jolly/Adamant
252 attack / 252 speed
~Fire Blast
~Earthquake
~Outrage
~Crunch/Stone Edge

This set sucks. It was one of the best sets ever, but now...it sucks. It was to used, therefore, people made counters. Every team has at least one (mine has two). If your team doesn't, get one, because they're good if you can't stop them. They suck if you can (which you usually can)
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:40 PM
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Actually, the fact that you have two mons in your team to counter Garchomp proves just how good that set it.

I also lol'd at dragons having no resistances...I think you need to take a look again.
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:22 PM
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Actually, the fact that you have two mons in your team to counter Garchomp proves just how good that set it.

I also lol'd at dragons having no resistances...I think you need to take a look again.
well... I meant no restistances as in taking no damage when coming in. Dragons resist grass, fire, water, and electric. I'm not an idiot, so please stop being a jerk and treating me like an idiot. You always have...and you treat other people on the forum like idiots too. Just because you know everything about pokemon and I don't doesn't mean you can treat me like crap. In fact, in the real world it makes you a loser nerd...

There, I'm done ranting. Please don't flame me, and I know Fire Away is well respected, but I'm not about to be bullied on a forum about pokemon...Pokemon. And don't tell me to cool down, because he's done this before and this isn't the only time.

And I have two counters, because its good. I said its sucky because everyone has a counter, but as a pokemon, its incredible. Please remember that this is overrated pokemon, not common strong pokemon.

overrated-to rate or appraise too highly; overestimate
common- widespread; general; ordinary
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um id say any of the pesudo legands
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