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Old 07-12-2008, 08:06 PM
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Okay, I am just going to put an end to all discussion of this right here.

This is a Pokemon forum. It's a website and a fun community for hanging out. These threads are causing nothing but conflict. The people for gays won't win, and the people against homosexuality(like me) will not win. Let's just drop all discussion of religion and sexuality, and enjoy nice conversations about games, movies, and music. I tried my best to change people, but you won't listen. Lets just have fun. Okay?
Well you may have finished but other people might not. You don't have the power to end a discussion just like that -snaps fingers- huh? FireflyK provided you with some very good points and unless you reply to them then you can't defend your side can you?

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Old 07-12-2008, 08:07 PM
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Okay, I am just going to put an end to all discussion of this right here.

This is a Pokemon forum. It's a website and a fun community for hanging out. These threads are causing nothing but conflict. The people for gays won't win, and the people against homosexuality(like me) will not win. Let's just drop all discussion of religion and sexuality, and enjoy nice conversations about games, movies, and music. I tried my best to change people, but you won't listen. Lets just have fun. Okay?
Why are you trying to change people? If you're homophobic, fine. But don't try to change someone else's beliefs.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:08 PM
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Okay, I am just going to put an end to all discussion of this right here.

This is a Pokemon forum. It's a website and a fun community for hanging out. These threads are causing nothing but conflict. The people for gays won't win, and the people against homosexuality(like me) will not win. Let's just drop all discussion of religion and sexuality, and enjoy nice conversations about games, movies, and music. I tried my best to change people, but you won't listen. Lets just have fun. Okay?
Ha! You don't get to just end all discussion after a comment like that!

You can't change people. People are born the way they are, and it's up to them whether they want to lie to themselves or not. That's not up to you to decide, you don't have that right, and neither does anyone else.
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1.) I'm not homophobic.

2.) Nothing good can come from this thread.

EDIT: >Mario: I just don't want people's life to be ruined because of homosexuality, or more their second life to be ruined.
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Old 07-12-2008, 08:24 PM
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1.) I'm not homophobic.

2.) Nothing good can come from this thread.

EDIT: >Mario: I just don't want people's life to be ruined because of homosexuality, or more their second life to be ruined.
This is the Other: Discussion board. It's not for talking about Pokemon and games and fun. This is for debating, and sometimes it gets a bit tough. Homosexuality and religion are just sensitive subjects, but we're still going to debate them. If it bothers you, then just stay out of this board. =/

As far as your last post goes, you can't try to change people. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion, and just because it's not YOUR opinion doesn't mean it's wrong.
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1.) I'm not homophobic.

2.) Nothing good can come from this thread.

EDIT: >Mario: I just don't want people's life to be ruined because of homosexuality, or more their second life to be ruined.
I think the only reason some homosexuals have their lives ruined, is because of all those who want to deny them their lives. And as many people said, eevn if gay marriage was banned, people would still be homosexual, and they would still go to hell. =/

And I enjoy these debates, and learn a lot from them, so why should I stop debating just because you don't enjoy it?
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1.) I'm not homophobic.

2.) Nothing good can come from this thread.

EDIT: >Mario: I just don't want people's life to be ruined because of homosexuality, or more their second life to be ruined.
What do you think contributes to people who have their lives ruined "because" of their sexuality? The serious rate of suicide among gay teens has much more to do with unfair treatment in schools and by a large portion of society than them just being gay. Bullying causes serious mental health problems.
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What do you think contributes to people who have their lives ruined "because" of their sexuality? The serious rate of suicide among gay teens has much more to do with unfair treatment in schools and by a large portion of society than them just being gay. Bullying causes serious mental health problems.
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Okay, I am just going to put an end to all discussion of this right here.

This is a Pokemon forum. It's a website and a fun community for hanging out. These threads are causing nothing but conflict. The people for gays won't win, and the people against homosexuality(like me) will not win. Let's just drop all discussion of religion and sexuality, and enjoy nice conversations about games, movies, and music. I tried my best to change people, but you won't listen. Lets just have fun. Okay?


Look, this is a DISCUSSION THREAD. Most forums have one. This is an interesting conversation on peoples views and opinions! No-one here is forcing their views on everyone else, you can't just END a discussion because you think you're God. Don't try to change people. If you're that much of a Christian, you'll respect everyone else's opinion, whether you like it or not. You're trying to change people, when God abides Free Will. Please butt out if you're not going to share your OPINION.


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1.) I'm not homophobic.

2.) Nothing good can come from this thread.

EDIT: >Mario: I just don't want people's life to be ruined because of homosexuality, or more their second life to be ruined.



Ok, why is nothing good coming out of this thread? I think a lot of good is coming out, you're just scared because you think your beliefs are going to be overthrown.


And WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?! People's lives aren't ruined by homosexuality. You make me sick you bastard. Yeah, bite me. Give us your views. Why do you think homosexuality ruins people's lives huh? Are you just a sheep following whatever God says, kissing his arse? Or do you actually have a valid argument?!



Please stay out of this board if you have nothing useful or insightful to contribute please. This is a heavy discussion, for MATURE people, who don't shove their beliefs down other people's throats.


Ok, all insults aside, FFK had some good points. Very good points. ... Too Good... :P

Nah, yeah, it's interesting what some people let slip isn't it? I wonder why they repeat names as well, the Pope right now is Benedict(e?) the 18th I think...? Wow. Really. Honestly... Eighteenth?!

What do other religions have to say against or with homosexuality? I think the Bible says something along the lines of; "Let one man who lies with another man be put to death." Something like that.

Islam? Buddhism? Taoism? Judaism? Anything from their corners?
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Old 07-13-2008, 03:54 AM
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I am proud to say I am for gay marriage.
My brother is gay and I see how kids at school treat him and how they assume he will act since he is gay. Everybody diserves love and to have a family. All because a person likes the same sex doesnt mean they should have any different rights than straight people.
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yea i am up for gay marriage. but ive seen gay couple that act normall and chill. its the gay ppl that say "this shirt is delicious" and "you look so bad in those jeans that your creating a felony" its those ppl from like those clothing chanels, that piss me off.
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This may sound like a stupid question, but glados, if homosexuals lives are ruined, does that mean my life will be half-ruined because im bi?
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1.) I'm not homophobic.

Yes. You are homophobic. Very much so. Not only are you against homosexuality which can be seen as being homophobic. But you ARE scared of it, or more specifically the idea of YOU being homosexual. It is not a choice. Sorry.

2.) Nothing good can come from this thread.

If we can take you away from the TRUE EVIL of discrimination, that would be good. Teaching homophobes some of the key reasons why they are wrong is good. Take this away form this post. THEY DON'T CHOOSE! Who would choose to be gay in a world where people like you exist?!

EDIT: >Mario: I just don't want people's life to be ruined because of homosexuality, or more their second life to be ruined.
If homosexuality is a sin (which it isn't), it is no more of a sin than having an eye defect or using a condom.

You talk of trying to change people when you are not open to change yourself.
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Hey, for the record, I'm completely for homosexual marriage. Heck, it's already legal in California IIRC. However, nobody is BORN gay, but at the same time it isn't completely choice, either. Yes, men can be born with certain genes that will, if they are left completely untouched, make them prefer men to women. However, there's a huge number of other genes involved that can counteract some of the homosexual genes, and what you experience in life matters as much as your genes. Even identical twins only turn out about 35% of the time to both be gay if one of them is.

So don't pull that argument if you're on either side, because it's neither choice nor birth, but a mix of the two.

In fact, why is the pro-gay side even pulling the "born with it" argument? That's like saying "oh, they can't help that they were born with this horrible thing, so let's have sympathy for them". That shouldn't even be an issue. Who cares if they were born with it, if they chose it, or if it's a mix of the two? It's not wrong.

EDIT: Homophobia is an extremely irrational fear or hatred of homosexuals, which does not equal being against them. Fear =/= dislike.
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Hey, for the record, I'm completely for homosexual marriage. Heck, it's already legal in California IIRC. However, nobody is BORN gay, but at the same time it isn't completely choice, either. Yes, men can be born with certain genes that will, if they are left completely untouched, make them prefer men to women. However, there's a huge number of other genes involved that can counteract some of the homosexual genes, and what you experience in life matters as much as your genes. Even identical twins only turn out about 35% of the time to both be gay if one of them is.

So don't pull that argument if you're on either side, because it's neither choice nor birth, but a mix of the two.

Sorry to tell you, but there is no choice with it. You are born with it whether you like it or not. It is something that is beyond identical twins. It is not effected by whether your father or mother is gay. I know that you are not anit-gay, but it is important to understand that.

In fact, why is the pro-gay side even pulling the "born with it" argument? That's like saying "oh, they can't help that they were born with this horrible thing, so let's have sympathy for them". That shouldn't even be an issue. Who cares if they were born with it, if they chose it, or if it's a mix of the two? It's not wrong.

Agree.

EDIT: Homophobia is an extremely irrational fear or hatred of homosexuals, which does not equal being against them. Fear =/= dislike.
The meaning of homophobia has changed to mean anti-gay over time, it can mean both.
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