Counter Game! - Pokemon Forum

RonRaygunX3 · #1 11-29-2007, 01:25 AM

Hey there and welcome to the Counter Game! This is a place where you can have fun trying to counter the person aboves moveset. Also it can serve well as a place for any people new to competitive battling to come and learn the basics of the D/P metagame and how to counter some common threats.

Whats a counter?: A counter has to be able to switch in on an opponents move and then be able to take down their pokemon/ stall it.

How you play:
Kingdra @ Life Orb
Modest ~ Swift Swim
252 Sp.Atk, 212 Atk, 46 speed
-Rain Dance
-Waterfall
-Surf
-HP (Hidden Power) Electric

Then the next person will post something to counter it. Heres an example of a good counter for the Kingdra moveset posted above.

Gastrodon@Leftovers
Bold~StickHold
252 Hp, 252 Sp.Def, 6 Def
-Recover
-Counter
-MirrorCoat
-IceBeam

Have fun!

EDIT: I thought this could be of good reference when deciding which Pokemon to put for a particular team for the sake of countering commonly used Pokemon, in case you all wonder why I decided to give this a sticky; this could also be clean fun and interesting.

By the way, would you [the author] care to give credit for this idea?

PrincessChibiMoon · #2 11-29-2007, 01:41 AM

Kingdra @ Life Orb
Swift Swim
Timid Nature (+speed, -atk)
Evs: 252 speed, 252 sp. atk, 6 hp
~ Rain Dance
~ Surf
~ Signal Beam
~ Dragon Pulse

Ace123456789 · #3 11-29-2007, 02:15 AM

Ignore the post infront of me as it serves no counter whatsoever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonRaygunX3

Heres a game I saw on another site and I thought it might be fun to post here. Anyway heres how it works. Somone posts a set and then you have to post another set that could counter it. I guess I shall start it off!

Kindgra@LifeOrb
Modest~SwiftSwim
252 Sp.Atk, 212 Atk, 46 SPD
-RainDance
-WaterFall
-Surf
-HP Electric

Ludicolo w/ Leftovers
204 HP / 48 DEF / 6 SPATK / 252 SPDEF
Bold Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Yawn

Lol's at Waterfall with 4 x resist to it, can Yawn, and it gets 360+ Speed. EVs listed give it maximum leftovers recovery, 299 Special Defense, and 200+ Defense.

Dark_Azelf · #4 11-29-2007, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace123456789

Ignore the post infront of me as it serves no counter whatsoever.

Ludicolo w/ Leftovers
204 HP / 48 DEF / 6 SPATK / 252 SPDEF
Bold Nature
Surf
Ice Beam
Grass Knot
Yawn

Lol's at Waterfall with 4 x resist to it, can Yawn, and it gets 360+ Speed. EVs listed give it maximum leftovers recovery, 299 Special Defense, and 200+ Defense.

You only get to 352 SPEED in the Rain haha

176 (No ev and max Ivs in Ludis speed) X 2 (Rain) = 352

Heracross@Choice Scarf
Ability : Guts
Adamant Nature
252 Att / 152 speed / 104 Hp
- Megahorn
- Close Combat
- Sleep Talk
- Stone Edge

This outruns Timid max speed Starmie and Azelf.

Comes in and either takes the hit with its above average sp.def and HP evs investments. Then it Megahorns the living daylights out of you and if you yawn it, ill let it fall to sleep,as it puts the rest of your team in trouble due to Guts and i can come back later and make Ludi and the rest of your team pay with Guts boosted attacks and Sleep Talk.

STAB'd Surf from Ludi with 6 sp.att evs in Rain only does

Defender HP: 327
Damage: 150 - 177
Damage: 45.87% - 54.13%

to 104 hp EV Heracross.

zukirin · #5 11-29-2007, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf

You only get to 352 SPEED in the Rain haha

176 (No ev and max Ivs in Ludis speed) X 2 (Rain) = 352

Heracross@Choice Scarf
Ability : Guts
Adamant Nature
252 Att / 152 speed / 104 Hp
- Megahorn
- Close Combat
- Sleep Talk
- Stone Edge

This outruns Timid max speed Starmie and Azelf.

Comes in and either takes the hit with its above average sp.def and HP evs investments. Then it Megahorns the living daylights out of you and if you yawn it, ill let it fall to sleep,as it puts the rest of your team in trouble due to Guts and i can come back later and make Ludi and the rest of your team pay with Guts boosted attacks and Sleep Talk.

STAB'd Surf from Ludi with 6 sp.att evs in Rain only does

Defender HP: 327
Damage: 150 - 177
Damage: 45.87% - 54.13%

to 104 hp EV Heracross.

Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish
252 Hp 252 Def 6 Atk
Roost
Stealth Rock
EQ
Aerial Ace

Nuff said.

wildfire1313 · #6 11-29-2007, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zukirin

Gliscor@Leftovers
Impish
252 Hp 252 Def 6 Atk
Roost
Stealth Rock
EQ
Aerial Ace

Nuff said.

Porygon-z
Modest@ choice scarf
252sp.atk/252spd/6hp
T-bolt
ice beam
Tri attack
HP (fight 70)

Buh bye gliscor. ^-^

Dark_Azelf · #7 11-29-2007, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donal mc intyre

Porygon-z
Modest@ choice scarf
252sp.atk/252spd/6hp
T-bolt
ice beam
Tri attack
HP (fight 70)

Buh bye gliscor. ^-^

Dusknoir@leftovers
Careful nature
252 HP / 78 DEF / 180 SP.DEF
- Ice Punch / Thunderpunch / Fire Punch / Brick Break
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

LOL Tri attack and Hidden power fighting

wildfire1313 · #8 11-29-2007, 09:22 PM

Oh no I meant to put in dark pulse, well nevermind.

Dark_Azelf · #9 11-29-2007, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donal mc intyre

Oh no I meant to put in dark pulse, well nevermind.

Dark Pulse instead? In that case

Blissey@leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Trait: Natural cure
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Thunderwave
- Softboiled

=)

RonRaygunX3 · #10 11-29-2007, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Azelf

Dark Pulse instead? In that case

Blissey@leftovers
Bold Nature
252 HP / 252 DEF / 6 SP.DEF
Trait: Natural cure
- Ice Beam
- Seismic Toss
- Thunderwave
- Softboiled

=)

Dugtrio@ ChoiceBand
Joly~ArenaTrap
252 ATK, 252 SPD
-Earthquake
-SuckerPunch
-StoneEdge
-AerialAce

shedinjask · #11 12-01-2007, 11:06 AM

That's not a counter. It can't switch in on Ice Beam.

Lanturn @ Leftovers
Amnesia
Charge Beam
Surf
Rest

A little slow, but it will eventually beat Bliss.

EDIT: "By the way, would you [the author] care to give credit for this idea?" It's a thread on Smogon. It should still be there, unless it was flooded with idiots looking for +postcount and then closed.

zukirin · #12 12-01-2007, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedinjask

That's not a counter. It can't switch in on Ice Beam.

Lanturn @ Leftovers
Amnesia
Charge Beam
Surf
Rest

A little slow, but it will eventually beat Bliss.

EDIT: "By the way, would you [the author] care to give credit for this idea?" It's a thread on Smogon. It should still be there, unless it was flooded with idiots looking for +postcount and then closed.

Sceptile@Choice BAnd.Muscle Babd/Life Orb/Sash
Jolly
252 Atk 252 Spd
Leaf Blade
EQ
Swords Dance
ThunderPunch

Physical Sceptile FTW!!

Leman · #13 12-01-2007, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zukirin

Sceptile@Choice BAnd.Muscle Babd/Life Orb/Sash
Jolly
252 Atk 252 Spd
Leaf Blade
EQ
Swords Dance
ThunderPunch

Physical Sceptile FTW!!

Weezing@Black Sludge
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/ 176 Def/ 80 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Pain Split
- Will-o-Wisp
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt

Hyper Blaze · #14 12-01-2007, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leman

Weezing@Black Sludge
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/ 176 Def/ 80 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Pain Split
- Will-o-Wisp
- Flamethrower
- Thunderbolt

Almost any Sp. Sweeper counters that >.<.

Alakazam@Life Orb/Focus Sash
Syncronize
Timid (252 SAtk/252 Spd/6 HP)
-Calm Mind
-Shadow Ball
-Focus Blast
-Psychic

~HB~

Ace123456789 · #15 12-01-2007, 04:03 PM

Spiritomb w/ Leftovers
Careful
252 HP/144 Atk/112 SpDef

Sucker Punch / Pursuit
Taunt
Pain Split
Will-o-wisp

Taunt the CM attempts, and if he thinks he can actually stay in and beat you, Sucker Punch it. If it tries to escape, Pursuit it.

EDIT: And a better counter for Weezing would be Heatran. Honestly, it resists two of his moves which would be going after Sceptile and it could easily OHKO with Overheat.