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Old 07-24-2011, 08:43 PM
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Default Tips that I enjoy the most.

What is a great writer? What and who classifies greatness? And how do you become one? Well, there are three major things you must keep in mind when writing. Grammar. Grammar is needed to make the story understandable. If you are going to write a fan fiction in English, you had very well know, at least, the basics of English grammar. I understand it is the most difficult thing on the planet for a person to understand grammar in the English language, but you cannot expect people to understand what you are saying when you use Google Translate to write your stories in English.

The next point is story. Make sure the story has at least something new. You cannot release a fan fiction that is the exact same story as the original. That would just be insane. Secondly, try to make cross-overs coherent and believable. I was talking with Operative a few days ago, and I learned that some guy wrote a fan fiction that was a crossover between Pokemon and Assassin's Creed. First of all, that is preposterous to take two things that have absolutely no similarity and cross them over. Assassin's Creed isn't even done in anime style. If you are going to do such a wild crossover, at least do it believably. This person did not. Encio meets Ash in a Pokemon Center. Let me tell you, Encio better have been described as an extremely old f*ck, because he would be over the age of 500 by the time Pokemon's time frame rolls around. I understand that fan fictions are imaginative. However, if you are releasing it for other people to read, make sure they at least understand the inane crossover.

The last thing you need is empathy. To be able to feel your fans. When you write your fan fiction's latest chapter, read it over as a fan. Edit it accordingly. Also, take pride in your work. Do not be too humble, you have to know when to take control. Just. Don't go overboard. Remember, when one becomes a mainstream writer, it is the fans that carried one there. They can just as easily drop you as they picked you up. That is one thing all artists need to take in mind. They need to love their fans, and love their critiques. Now, there is a difference between constructive criticism and trolling. Constructive criticism, or CC for short, should point out the good things as well as the bad things. Trolling, which I have seen plenty of, is simple insults. But, that is something all artists have to deal with. Learn to overcome these people to become the best writer you can be.


Grammar

-Grammar is definitely one of the most important parts of the story. To be heard, one has to be understood. Make sure that grammar is proper. This can be done using any Microsoft Word Processor. Remember, however, that writing stories is different than writing. Say. A thesis.

Emotion is key to any story, and can be shown in different ways. This has a lot to do with grammar. Grammar does not have the same effect in dialogue that it has in the narrative. For example, the following.

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"I-I-I love y-y-you too."
The above sends the message of fear. The dashes indicate rapid stuttering, something someone normally does when nervous or frightened. However, if one wants to show a more romantic, sad, or overall awkward feeling, one should do the following.

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"I. I. I love you, too."
The periods indicate longer pauses. This means that there is more emotion in it, and the character has to muster the courage to respond. One must have the dialogue fit the situation or intended feeling.

Be sure to use semicolons when appropriate. This is best done by using Microsoft Word Processors. Instead, you might have to refer to a grammar note online, and that can be tedious to have to keep flipping to that when you write.

Also, be sure to keep expressions consistent. As we have learned above, stuttering with said dash "-" indicates fear in this case. You wouldn't want to do the following.

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"I-I-I love y-y-you too," he said to his girlfriend.
That does not seem right, because had he said it simply, there would have been no dashes to indicate fear. You would say something along the lines of:

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"I-I-I love y-y-you too," he stuttered to his girlfriend.
Would be more appropriate.

-Alright. Whoever does not space out their paragraphs need to just stop writing, or learn fast to space them out. I cannot tell you how many times I have hurt my eyes trying to read a newbies fan fic. It has come to the point where if is not neat and clean, I do not even attempt to read it. As I said, you need to take pride in your work. Do not pump it out to get more views. Heck, it took me two months to release PART 1 of a chapter. Take your time in writing things.

I too made the mistake of not taking my time and writing sloppily. You will not get the reaction you want from the populace. I will use a small tidbit of my own fan fiction for the following example. This is what I am talking about.

This does not work:

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>Seven minutes before the first bell even rang for English class, the entire class was talking about the new boy that was allowed to stay with them. Ayaka, the class representative, was rather offended, "How could you all talk about some boy, when Negi is still relatively new?"
>Asuna, of course, had a comment to add to that and an argument and escalating rage finally boiled over... for the morning. So as Asuna was yelling at Ayaka, and the rest of the girls were gossiping, the bell rang. It took a second for everyone to realize that it had happened, so they sat there, stopping whatever they were doing, and for just a second there was complete silence.
>Then, footsteps echoed throughout the near empty halls. All the girls let out excited sighs and gasps and darted like lightning to their seats. The foot steps enclosed on their position like enemy forces in a war. And like strategists, all the girls grew more and more excited and nervous. The steps echoed even louder until they stopped right at the door. The door was flung open, "Ahahaha! That was a good one, Seth! You actually got me to laugh pretty hard!"
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Seven minutes before the first bell even rang for English class, the entire class was talking about the new boy that was allowed to stay with them. Ayaka, the class representative, was rather offended, "How could you all talk about some boy, when Negi is still relatively new?"
Asuna, of course, had a comment to add to that and an argument and escalating rage finally boiled over... for the morning. So as Asuna was yelling at Ayaka, and the rest of the girls were gossiping, the bell rang. It took a second for everyone to realize that it had happened, so they sat there, stopping whatever they were doing, and for just a second there was complete silence.
Then, footsteps echoed throughout the near empty halls. All the girls let out excited sighs and gasps and darted like lightning to their seats. The foot steps enclosed on their position like enemy forces in a war. And like strategists, all the girls grew more and more excited and nervous. The steps echoed even louder until they stopped right at the door. The door was flung open, "Ahahaha! That was a good one, Seth! You actually got me to laugh pretty hard!"
And this. This you should be severely punished for:


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Seven minutes before the first bell even rang for English class, the entire class was talking about the new boy that was allowed to stay with them. Ayaka, the class representative, was rather offended, "How could you all talk about some boy, when Negi is still relatively new?" Asuna, of course, had a comment to add to that and an argument and escalating rage finally boiled over... for the morning. So as Asuna was yelling at Ayaka, and the rest of the girls were gossiping, the bell rang. It took a second for everyone to realize that it had happened, so they sat there, stopping whatever they were doing, and for just a second there was complete silence. Then, footsteps echoed throughout the near empty halls. All the girls let out excited sighs and gasps and darted like lightning to their seats. The foot steps enclosed on their position like enemy forces in a war. And like strategists, all the girls grew more and more excited and nervous. The steps echoed even louder until they stopped right at the door. The door was flung open, "Ahahaha! That was a good one, Seth! You actually got me to laugh pretty hard!"
What ever you do, do not try to write your chapter on a f*cking mobile phone. It does not work like that, okay? And now that I have butchered my own fan fiction, and my own primary language for the sake of teaching you how not to write properly, I expect fan fictions to be tidier, capish?

-Know the differences between First Person, Second Person, and Third Person writing.

First Person:

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I looked at the insanely huge pineapple.
^The above is common, but not used much^

Second Person:

Quote:
You looked at the insanely huge pineapple.
^Note that second person is rarely ever used because the "You" is referring to the reader^

Third Person:

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She looked at the insanely huge pineapple.
^The above is used most often^



Story


This is the most difficult part of writing a fan fiction. Story. Of course, one must use creativity and imagination when writing, but there is a fine line when it comes to using other people's concepts to create your own story.

Fan fictions are to be treated as a remix of a musical track. Respect the original track, while adding your own twist to it.

Too often do I see horrible crossovers. As I mentioned above. An Assassin's Creed-Pokemon crossover would do fine if you could explain the backstory. Were there Pokemon during the main character, Altair, and his time? Were they always around while the original story happened? And instead of using Encio, use your own character. Believe it or not, it is harder for any fan fic writer to work with already developed characters. One has to be careful to keep that character in, well, character. For instance, in Pokemon.

Ash is not exactly the smartest type when it comes to logic. Do not have him explain some complicated mathematical equation like pi. He is also not very romantic, so do not play him out as if he is.

Develop your own characters, because it is easier to do so. The only reason I use canon characters in my fan fic is because:

A) I am experienced in using canon characters.

B) I use very few, and the story is changed enough to develop some of them by myself.

Respect the main storyline while adding on to it.

Your Crowd


As the famous artist, Deadmau5 once said, the fans are what carry you to your fame. Those fans. Think of them as your friends. You have to work to please them, and in turn, you will gain loyalty. Do not expect much in return, and you will be rewarded.

Of course, this does not mean you should sit around idly. Do not be afraid of advertising yourself. Do not be afraid of asking for help. And, especially do not turn down advice.

And do not be afraid to defend yourself either. If a troll comes on and starts insulting you, report him. Get him kicked. You do not have to put up with that sort of insolence when attempting to work at a piece of art.

Whatever you do, never be afraid of fellow artists. Show your respect, and display kindness, and the writing community will accept you, no matter what you write. As long as you treat others the way you want to be treated.


Remember. I am still learning, and so are you. These are the tips that helped me the most while learning to write, and I hope they help you too! Peace out! Have fun writing here on Pe2k!
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Tips that I enjoy the most.

I'm glad this is here, some people need to learn about paragraphing and grammar, due to the fact that it annoys me so that people don't put much effort into their writing, or don't learn purposely >_< But hey, it happens xP

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"I. I. I love you, too."
Wouldn't it be better to have it as
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"I... I love you too..."
This, therefore, connotes thought being put into the words, as well as hinting a little bit of nerves. Also, the fact that they trail off can suggest worry as to whether they've said it right. The uses of full stops (periods or whatever) repetitively isn't used in writing very much (none that I've seen anyway), and it makes it look separated and messy and bleh. xP

I am really glad that this is up, people can learn from this :D
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:36 PM
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A good combination of ellipsis and periods is the best way.
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Default Re: Tips that I enjoy the most.

Dashes merely indicate a short pause, not fear. If you're writing for a character that stutters, you'd use a dash even regardless of his emotion. Other than that I agree with what you've said.

On the subject of grammar:

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Grammar does not have the same affect in dialogue that it has in the narrative.
Should be "effect".

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I too made the mistake of not taking my time and writing sloppily. You will not get the reaction you want from the populous
Should be "populace". Populous is an adjective indicating a large population.

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The only reason I use cannon characters in my fan fic is because:
The word you're thinking of is "canon". A cannon is... well, I don't think I have to explain this one XD
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For the specific example of the stuttering, it's usually best to go light on the stuttering. If you're going to use more than two repetitions of a letter or sound, I find that it's best to use ellipses instead of dashes, because otherwise it just drags on too long and isn't very appealing at all. Otherwise, you're quite right on these points, though I would clump in past and present tense with the 'first-second-third person' discussion; second person is normally done in present tense to increase the illusion that it actually is the reader acting out the story, and past tense is normally done with third person to make it seem more distanced from present events.
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There are a few more tips I would like to cover. A super important thing is what type of fan fiction you are writing. This is important. Is it an action and adventure? Romance? Comedy? It is best to, if you pick one specifically, to stick to the formula.

Another point is influences. What is the basis for your writing? What influences your writing? Do you have specific stories or songs that inspire you? I will give some tips about how to emulate several stories at once, and what to emulate.

You may notice, almost every fan fiction that has several chapters has an introduction. How do you construct one, and how do you separate your chapters? These will be answered.


Genre


Genres are important, no matter what people say. It may not affect you, directly, but it will definitely help you get fans more efficiently. What do I mean by this? I mean you will be able to, essentially, thin the herd of unwanted readers. You know, people who want your fan fiction to be of a certain genre. List what type of genre it is somewhere, and that will help get the type of viewers who are interested in that genre. This helps a lot.

There are several different genres, but the most common are:

Action: A standard build-up and climactic battle. Features many action scenes and contains violence.

Adventure: Characters on a journey to a far off area, with a set objective or mission. This is most often combined with action. These are the most commons forms of stories. They are the easiest to write, and the most entertaining to many people.

Romance: Romance is unique. It is, essentially, a love story. While there may be a hint of romance in many fan fics, it is rare to find one purely based on love. This, by far, is one of the most rare types of stories. It is most commonly tied with Action/Adventure, but there may be Romantic Comedies released by a few writers here on the forum.

Comedy: Comedy is the rarest here on Pe2k on its own. Comedy is based off many different elements. Irony, sarcasm, abrupt and sudden sounds and movements, outlandishness situations, and parody are all in comedies. Most often incorporated in every form of story as a relief from a tense moment.

-Note there are several different forms of irony. Most are not funny at all, and have nothing to do with comedy. Ancient Greek plays, most of which were of a serious nature, had irony constantly, but as we all know, they weren't exactly funny.

Comedic/Situational Irony: Irony that is considered amusing. Most often, this has to do with something being said, and the exact opposite occurs.

Dramatic Irony: The readers know when a character is making a mistake because the readers have more information than the character. This is done through foreshadowing.

Tragic Irony: A form of Dramatic Irony. This usually brings tragic events and is normally against the character's intentions.

Socratic Irony: When questions are answered as if not known by one character to lure another character into a trap. This can be Dramatic/Tragic or Comedic depending on the situation.

Good, now we have gone over the different and most popular forms of writing and the different forms of irony that can help throughout any story. I hope this helps. For more aid, please go to Wikipedia and enter your desired genre to learn more.

Inspiration/Infleunce


Every artist has inspiration and influence. Every artist tries to emulate a certain look, and every artist is inspired by some event. What can inspire you, and more importantly, what influences you?

Influences are all over the place. A good way to learn about human character is simply by interacting with people face-to-face. Note facial expressions, physical reactions, and changes in pitch. This is a great way to sharpen your observational skills as well. Practice on a loved one, or do what I do, and bug your siblings and giggle like a school girl.

Of course. You are probably like, Mike! I am not writing a story with humans! Well. Tough. Even if you are writing a story with Pokemon as main characters, it is most likely they will be treated and written about as if they were humans. If you are talking about physical attributes, there isn't a science behind Pokemon. Be creative.

Other influences can be other stories. Fan fictions are unique, because you are taking another person's art and editing it to fit your own story. This means you can use other stories to your disposal as well. This is called a crossover. Combining one or more stories into one. This has been done several times, rather successfully on several sites.

Music is also a great influence. I implement it in a unique way in my own fan fiction, which we will discuss in the next topic. However, music is a major influence in writing. It can set the atmosphere, or simply motivate you to write.

These are just different things that effect how you write.

Technical Features, Organization, and Sound


There are several ways you can clean up your fan fiction thread to make it more friendly to your users. You can make it easily navigable, easily critique-able, and easily editable.

The first technique is used on your Title/Page of Contents. Keep in mind, my layout is a little different. I have an entirely different thread to explain the technical features of the fan fiction. This is mainly due to the character limits and the extensive list of chapters, and other complications.

However, plenty have made very efficient Title/Content pages using hypertext and other BB codes.

First of all, the Table of Contents/Chapter List is your reader's best friend. This is a bit complicated, so pay attention:

Step 1: Make a list of all your different chapters:

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Chapter 1: Opening
Chapter 2: Setting
Chapter 3: Climax
Chapter 3: Battle
Chapter 4: Ending
Chapter 5: Aftermath

Step 2: At the top right-hand of each post, there is information about the poster, seen here (information so graciously provided by Graceful_Suicune):



The circle indicates the number of the post. In this case, #3. If you click on this number, it brings you to an individual page containing only that post. This means your readers do not have to search for all the chapters, when all they have to do is click on each chapter.

Step 3: Click on the number, and copy the address of the page.

Step 4: Use the URL code on the highlighted chapter and enter it.

Nicely done, you have mastered the basic Table of Contents technique. Now, there is more of this URL BB code usage.

For instance, one may be a visual artist as well. You may have an image you want to incorporate with the chapter. This can be done using image codes.

I use BB codes in a unique way. I incorporate music in different areas of the fan fiction. Certain words are linking to a specific song that plays automatically when you read. A very handy feature, that I hope more people use in the future.

There are plenty of more features and such that you can experiment with on your own. Enjoy the features of Pe2k, and use them wisely, young grasshopper. Got more questions? Ask any of the writers here! They'll do their best to help you!
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